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Post by kerrygold on Sept 17, 2007 22:32:14 GMT
Will the county board be able to ratify pats reappointment as manager seeing as the munster council only allowed him take the post for one year because of his coaching commitments in munster.
Whats going to happen here,how are they going to get around that one.Will common sense prevail and will the munster council see the benifits of having such a high profile candidate coaching young players in munster.
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Post by peig on Sept 17, 2007 23:52:40 GMT
That's a bit of a no-brainer, ain't it? I mean if the Munster Council insists on him going back to his previous commitments and Pat says "Ara, no, I'm going for three-in-a-row, like", the worst thing that could happen is his job is gone. But I doubt it would be for long. They'll want him back as soon as his term with Kerry is up.
If not (unthinkable) let's offer the job to a double act:
Darragh Ó Sé (player/manager) and Séamus Moynihan. ;D
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Post by jd1 on Sept 18, 2007 7:20:47 GMT
personally with the talent kerry have , they would still win with anyone managing.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 18, 2007 7:43:37 GMT
i'll put that comment jdi down to euphoria at the moment.
"worst thing that can happen is his job is gone",get real peig, he has kids to feed and put to school and living exspences to look after,i'll put that post down to euphoria also.
hopefully the munster council will see the huge benifits of having an all-ireland winning manager working with the young players in munster,pat isnt just any coach now,he has moved to a new level,surely the munster council will see this and tap into what he has to offer.
any other out come would be short sighted in my view.
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Post by homerj on Sept 18, 2007 7:59:13 GMT
with sean walshs involvement on the munster council, i think its fair to say that pat and his backroom team will remain as they are next year.
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Post by JOAN on Sept 18, 2007 13:10:01 GMT
with sean walshs involvement on the munster council, i think its fair to say that pat and his backroom team will remain as they are next year. Homerj I think you said it in a nut shell |
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Post by jd1 on Sept 18, 2007 14:34:48 GMT
i wish the admin would stop editing my messages
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Post by Piggy on Sept 18, 2007 14:40:53 GMT
disagree with you there jd1, look at the u21's this year.great team but wrong man in charge
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 18, 2007 15:05:59 GMT
with sean walshs involvement on the munster council, i think its fair to say that pat and his backroom team will remain as they are next year. Homerj I think you said it in a nut shell i'd forgotten about sean walsh,  |
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Post by kerryeye on Sept 18, 2007 15:09:43 GMT
disagree with you there jd1, look at the u21's this year.great team but wrong man in charge Exactly,they were as good if not better than corks all ireland winnin team and were as hambles because they had a poor man in charge. |
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Post by ticketless on Sept 18, 2007 15:12:16 GMT
I'd love to see Eamon breen & Maurice Fitz in charge of a Kerry U21 team. Put some fire in the bellies...
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Post by una on Sept 18, 2007 19:33:20 GMT
This was on hoganstand.com
Walsh keen to have O’Shea stay on board
Kerry Chairman Sean Walsh congratulates manager Pat O’Shea
18 September 2007
Kerry County Board Chairman Sean Walsh says he hopes the arrangement between the Kingdom and the Munster Council regarding Pat O’Shea’s position as the All-Ireland champions’ team-manager can be continued as it was a great success.
O’Shea is the Munster Council’s Games Promotion Manager but was afforded the opportunity by the provincial council to take up the job of Kerry boss in 2007.
"It worked excellently during the year and we would be looking to re-appoint Pat O’Shea for another term as Kerry manager and that’s what we would be looking at in the immediate short term.
"I know at Munster level he had done that job very well and I wouldn’t see any problem with him and his Munster Council and Kerry role in the future if he is to be re-appointed.
"We have to go back to the Munster Council, put our cards on the table - this is what happened, this is what Pat did with his job with Munster Council and this is what he did with Kerry.
"And as far as I’m concerned he did both jobs excellently."
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Post by Aine on Sept 18, 2007 20:05:49 GMT
This was on hoganstand.com Walsh keen to have O’Shea stay on board Kerry Chairman Sean Walsh congratulates manager Pat O’Shea 18 September 2007 Kerry County Board Chairman Sean Walsh says he hopes the arrangement between the Kingdom and the Munster Council regarding Pat O’Shea’s position as the All-Ireland champions’ team-manager can be continued as it was a great success. O’Shea is the Munster Council’s Games Promotion Manager but was afforded the opportunity by the provincial council to take up the job of Kerry boss in 2007. "It worked excellently during the year and we would be looking to re-appoint Pat O’Shea for another term as Kerry manager and that’s what we would be looking at in the immediate short term. "I know at Munster level he had done that job very well and I wouldn’t see any problem with him and his Munster Council and Kerry role in the future if he is to be re-appointed. "We have to go back to the Munster Council, put our cards on the table - this is what happened, this is what Pat did with his job with Munster Council and this is what he did with Kerry. " And as far as I’m concerned he did both jobs excellently." Totally agree Sean!! |
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 19, 2007 21:34:50 GMT
Now to put the cat among the pidgeons..............
Jack o Connor made the telling point some weeks ago that Kerry were better in 2007 under a new manager as the players had to prove themselves to a new manager all over again. No resting on laurels etc.
So........ does anyone think that Pat o Shea should retire........... and let a new man take over and keep things fresh?
Thought so!
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Post by alonso on Sept 20, 2007 0:16:28 GMT
we dont know what will happen with d job stranger things have happened than pato not being ratified as manager. look at d back of d sunday world at wat donaghy said about d gaa. personally i would love 2 see him there again. he has proved himself as a tactical genius and more importantly he is improving himself with every game. also he is a gentleman and knows his place. he is what kerry football is about, class on and off d field and he has d respect of d people perhaps something jack lacked. thanks pat for another great year.
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Post by falveyb2k on Sept 20, 2007 0:24:47 GMT
It seems like Jose Mourinho is available..............
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Post by peig on Sept 20, 2007 9:41:30 GMT
It seems like Jose Mourinho is available.............. ;D |
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Post by peig on Sept 20, 2007 9:51:39 GMT
I'd love to see Eamon breen & Maurice Fitz in charge of a Kerry U21 team. Put some fire in the bellies... Interesting... |
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Post by peig on Sept 20, 2007 9:52:27 GMT
i'll put that comment jdi down to euphoria at the moment. "worst thing that can happen is his job is gone",get real peig, he has kids to feed and put to school and living exspences to look after,i'll put that post down to euphoria also. hopefully the munster council will see the huge benifits of having an all-ireland winning manager working with the young players in munster,pat isnt just any coach now,he has moved to a new level,surely the munster council will see this and tap into what he has to offer. any other out come would be short sighted in my view. Sorry about that, KG. Admin cleared a few things up for me!  |
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Post by JOAN on Sept 20, 2007 12:47:11 GMT
I think John Kennedy is the man to move up to the u-21. Maurice fitz would be huge at any level
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Post by bob567 on Sept 20, 2007 13:15:29 GMT
Would fitzy even consider doin the U21 job?? i think kenedy will get it
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 20, 2007 13:35:54 GMT
I think John Kennedy is the man to move up to the u-21. Maurice fitz would be huge at any level Not being harsh here, but why should John Kennedy get the U-21 job? |
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Post by bob567 on Sept 20, 2007 14:59:30 GMT
I think John Kennedy is the man to move up to the u-21. Maurice fitz would be huge at any level Not being harsh here, but why should John Kennedy get the U-21 job? hell get it prob because no one else seems interested. why shouldnt he get it in your opinion? |
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 20, 2007 15:07:59 GMT
Not being harsh here, but why should John Kennedy get the U-21 job? hell get it prob because no one else seems interested. why shouldnt he get it in your opinion? Don't get me wrong, I've the greatest respect for John and he put in a serious effort over the last couple of years with the Minors. If he gets the job good luck to him. I was merely posing the question "why should he get it" rather than "why shouldn't he get it". |
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Post by bob567 on Sept 20, 2007 15:28:52 GMT
i think he will get it after a good two years with the minors, to be honest i hope he gets it.
Why shouldn't he get it? to be honest i cant see any reason, may be someone else does?
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 20, 2007 15:48:06 GMT
i think he will get it after a good two years with the minors, to be honest i hope he gets it. Why shouldn't he get it? to be honest i cant see any reason, may be someone else does? Fair enough, your saying he should get it because of the good 2 years he had with the minors. Can't argue with that. |
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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 25, 2007 17:41:26 GMT
But we've not taken the crucial last step both times.....
On that note, has Maurice ever managed a team?
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Post by JOAN on Sept 25, 2007 19:05:27 GMT
Dont know if Maurice has ever managed a team I know he is involved in some uderage stuff with the Marys. John Kennedy would be good at u-21 because the effort had not really gone in there in a while . There is too much talent and no results. I agree he had not gotten the results we would like at minor but in two years he hads a munster title and took them to all ireland final replay.
Is the job open this year or is it next.....Was it not a two year term??
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Post by bob567 on Sept 26, 2007 10:42:37 GMT
Is the job open this year or is it next.....Was it not a two year term?? it was a two year term and john dwayer had his two years and they are up it would be unreal to have a man like maurice as a manager/selector |
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Post by Walter Mitty on Sept 26, 2007 10:51:52 GMT
Dont know if Maurice has ever managed a team I know he is involved in some uderage stuff with the Marys. John Kennedy would be good at u-21 because the effort had not really gone in there in a while . There is too much talent and no results. I agree he had not gotten the results we would like at minor but in two years he hads a munster title and took them to all ireland final replay. Is the job open this year or is it next.....Was it not a two year term?? Given that Maurice Fitz is involved in a fledling auctioneering business in Cahirsiveen, i cant see how he d fit in time to manage the under 21s. Secondly, he has never managed any team of note....as we have learned from the past in both soccer and football, great footballers dont neccessarily make great managers.....ie Jacko se, Ronnie Whelan etc.... |
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