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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 21, 2015 13:22:53 GMT
I would be surprised if we see many changes to the starting team from now on. Maybe Dave Geaney for Johnny Buckley. While I'm sure Dr Dave Geaney would give it his best shot we would probably fare better with Mikey Geaney Its sucks when trying to be a smart ass only serves to highlight your lack of knowledge of Kerry panelists in the last few years!
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Post by animal on Jul 21, 2015 13:54:07 GMT
While I'm sure Dr Dave Geaney would give it his best shot we would probably fare better with Mikey Geaney I am sure he is confusing his name with that of his older brother rather than the doctor. Yes I knew that. I was being facetious. And I am very much aware of the brother.
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Jul 21, 2015 14:07:44 GMT
I think it is great testament to the 2 old stagers Marc and Aidan that they lasted the 70odd mins the last day.
Especially giving the conditions on the day.
Mahony is an absolute animal for road, he keeps himself in great shape. Cian O Neill probably has a lot to do with it too.
As for Marc? Well what can you say?
Eamon probably wanted to keep AOM in reserve till Croke Park but "needs musted"
Great to have these boys around. Really gives a stabilising effect to the young guns.
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Post by kerryman99 on Jul 21, 2015 14:29:49 GMT
I would be surprised if we see many changes to the starting team from now on. Maybe Dave Geaney for Johnny Buckley. While I'm sure Dr Dave Geaney would give it his best shot we would probably fare better with Mikey Geaney Honest mistake.
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Post by animal on Jul 21, 2015 14:57:29 GMT
While I'm sure Dr Dave Geaney would give it his best shot we would probably fare better with Mikey Geaney Honest mistake. Clearly. Was merely jesting. Agree with points you make, Johnny is running out of chances although I believe he was icing his hamstring after coming off. I'm somewhat agnostic on the keeper issue. I prefer Brian Kelly but Kealy is the man in possession and I can't see Eamonn switching horses now. The one safe position of the 15? - for the rest of the summer that is.
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Post by animal on Jul 21, 2015 15:03:49 GMT
I think it is great testament to the 2 old stagers Marc and Aidan that they lasted the 70odd mins the last day. Especially giving the conditions on the day. Mahony is an absolute animal for road, he keeps himself in great shape. Cian O Neill probably has a lot to do with it too. As for Marc? Well what can you say? Eamon probably wanted to keep AOM in reserve till Croke Park but "needs musted" Great to have these boys around. Really gives a stabilising effect to the young guns. Aidan is a marvel. He is more mobile and faster now that he was 5-6 years ago. He seemed to bulk up too much from 2006 or 2007. He was constantly going into contact when in possession and subsequently was no longer an automatic starter. The last couple of years have seen him come back like a renaissance man. He looks less bulked up and has a decent burst of speed. He is known nowadays for looking after himself extremely well. Getting older can do that to a fellow. I'm very glad we are reaping the benefits.
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Jul 21, 2015 15:11:49 GMT
I think it is great testament to the 2 old stagers Marc and Aidan that they lasted the 70odd mins the last day. Especially giving the conditions on the day. Mahony is an absolute animal for road, he keeps himself in great shape. Cian O Neill probably has a lot to do with it too. As for Marc? Well what can you say? Eamon probably wanted to keep AOM in reserve till Croke Park but "needs musted" Great to have these boys around. Really gives a stabilising effect to the young guns. Aidan is a marvel. He is more mobile and faster now that he was 5-6 years ago. He seemed to bulk up too much from 2006 or 2007. He was constantly going into contact when in possession and subsequently was no longer an automatic starter. The last couple of years have seen him come back like a renaissance man. He looks less bulked up and has a decent burst of speed. He is known nowadays for looking after himself extremely well. Getting older can do that to a fellow. I'm very glad we are reaping the benefits. You are spot on there. He did put up a bit too much bulk.
He is a much leaner player now, and as you say has a burst in him too.
Lucky to have him.
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Post by ballynamona on Jul 21, 2015 16:25:58 GMT
Clearly. Was merely jesting. Agree with points you make, Johnny is running out of chances although I believe he was icing his hamstring after coming off. I'm somewhat agnostic on the keeper issue. I prefer Brian Kelly but Kealy is the man in possession and I can't see Eamonn switching horses now. The one safe position of the 15? - for the rest of the summer that is. I'd say Moran and Maher are both safe now.
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Post by ballynamona on Jul 21, 2015 16:28:49 GMT
I am sure he is confusing his name with that of his older brother rather than the doctor. Yes I knew that. I was being facetious. And I am very much aware of the brother. Complete aside, but I felt David Geaney was a bit unlucky not to get more of a run for Kerry. Different type of player to Mikey of course. I am glad for Mikey that he has shown many, myself included, that he was much underestimated.
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Post by hugh20 on Jul 21, 2015 17:16:57 GMT
Hard to make a case for Johnny Buckley now and we could see no Dr. Crokes player starting for Kerry. That must not have happened since Gooch and Tomas did not start against Antrim?
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 21, 2015 18:26:56 GMT
It is strange that TW didn't get a run in either of the two Munster final games when one considers what Eamonn subsequently described as PG's "cameo" designed to bring on his preparation. Is TW carrying an injury?
JB is under pressure alright but could still explode into form as the summer progresses. He is a very valuable player for Kerry.
Aidan and Marc's form have added further to the in depth strength of the defence.
I'd like to think to that Mark Griffin is being looked at as a possible wing back "inside", local whisperings on the ground suggest that this is his best position.
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Post by brigid on Jul 21, 2015 19:15:26 GMT
Kerry V Cork replay. I say fair dues to the Kerry full back line but they have a big worry with Kealy in goal. Most times when he goes to hick out the ball they can expect him to have some type of miss kick, be it over the side-line or screwing it along the ground. It is very hard for a full back line to always play so well again when there cannot be confidence in their keeper in doing the basics. I thought Kelly was better and there is always Ryan from Rathmore. Next to Killian Young. Simple message, DO NOT show your weak points. If you cannot solo, do not solo and stop bringing the ball into the tackle. He is a very good player but .... Johnny Buckley. Don't think he has the speed for the wing and of course he cannot tackle or disposes a player. Bryan Sheehan must play because of his free taking ability. Donnacha Walsh does not impress me. I thought his effort to score a goal from Colm Cooper's free kick was poor. Luckily it fell to the vigilant Paul Geaney. Some contributors want Barry John Keane on the starting team. I don't think that he is a team player in that he does not appear to follow team tactics. But he is a very good impact sub.
Players not mentioned, some players played well and at least 6 played very well.
Two ridiculous incidents were (1) Cian O'Neill appearing to tell Colm Cooper what to do when he was about to come on as a sub. I think at this stage Colm knows more than most what to do on the field. (2) The second item was Man Of The Match. The 2 bad foot passes alone should have ruled him out.
Is there something incorrect in the coaching in Dr Crokes set-up. There must be very little defending coaching done in that it appears that Fitzgerald, Buckley and O'Leary are incapable to either tackle or disposes an opponent with the ball. I suppose we cannot complain as Crokes gave us Colm Cooper - the most skilful player playing Gaelic football.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 21, 2015 19:21:34 GMT
Kerry V Cork replay. I say fair dues to the Kerry full back line but they have a big worry with Kealy in goal. Most times when he goes to hick out the ball they can expect him to have some type of miss kick, be it over the side-line or screwing it along the ground. It is very hard for a full back line to always play so well again when there cannot be confidence in their keeper in doing the basics. I thought Kelly was better and there is always Ryan from Rathmore. Next to Killian Young. Simple message, DO NOT show your weak points. If you cannot solo, do not solo and stop bringing the ball into the tackle. He is a very good player but .... Johnny Buckley. Don't think he has the speed for the wing and of course he cannot tackle or disposes a player. Bryan Sheehan must play because of his free taking ability. Donnacha Walsh does not impress me. I thought his effort to score a goal from Colm Cooper's free kick was poor. Luckily it fell to the vigilant Paul Geaney. Some contributors want Barry John Keane on the starting team. I don't think that he is a team player in that he does not appear to follow team tactics. But he is a very good impact sub. Players not mentioned, some players played well and at least 6 played very well. Two ridiculous incidents were (1) Cian O'Neill appearing to tell Colm Cooper what to do when he was about to come on as a sub. I think at this stage Colm knows more than most what to do on the field. (2) The second item was Man Of The Match. The 2 bad foot passes alone should have ruled him out. Is there something incorrect in the coaching in Dr Crokes set-up. There must be very little defending coaching done in that it appears that Fitzgerald, Buckley and O'Leary are incapable to either tackle or disposes an opponent with the ball. I suppose we cannot complain as Crokes gave us Colm Cooper - the most skilful player playing Gaelic football. Are you having a bad day or something? Why so negative?!
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 21, 2015 19:44:43 GMT
Just catching up on the various Sunday Game clips. They are a pitiful bunch. The amount of times the penalty incident has been cited as having cost poor Cork the tie is pitiful. McStay continues with his dose of Curry scour. It is disappointing to see someone like Dolan sitting back when Cahill and McStay are having their little contrived Curry moment on TSG.
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Post by stevieq on Jul 21, 2015 20:09:24 GMT
Clearly. Was merely jesting. Agree with points you make, Johnny is running out of chances although I believe he was icing his hamstring after coming off. I'm somewhat agnostic on the keeper issue. I prefer Brian Kelly but Kealy is the man in possession and I can't see Eamonn switching horses now. The one safe position of the 15? - for the rest of the summer that is. I'd say Moran and Maher are both safe now. Sheehan is probably nailed on as well for the starting 55-60 mins of remaining matches. Don't know what Kealy has done to deserve such criticism. He could have done nothing with Kerrigans goal and that save......... amazing stuff. Conditions were to blame for the couple of slips in kickouts in the second half. The man fluffs a high ball v Donegal in semi final a couple of years ago and no one can let it go. Not with standing that it was early in the first half and there were many other reasons why that game was lost.
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Post by fitz on Jul 21, 2015 20:18:58 GMT
Kerry V Cork replay. I say fair dues to the Kerry full back line but they have a big worry with Kealy in goal. Most times when he goes to hick out the ball they can expect him to have some type of miss kick, be it over the side-line or screwing it along the ground. It is very hard for a full back line to always play so well again when there cannot be confidence in their keeper in doing the basics. I thought Kelly was better and there is always Ryan from Rathmore. Next to Killian Young. Simple message, DO NOT show your weak points. If you cannot solo, do not solo and stop bringing the ball into the tackle. He is a very good player but .... Johnny Buckley. Don't think he has the speed for the wing and of course he cannot tackle or disposes a player. Bryan Sheehan must play because of his free taking ability. Donnacha Walsh does not impress me. I thought his effort to score a goal from Colm Cooper's free kick was poor. Luckily it fell to the vigilant Paul Geaney. Some contributors want Barry John Keane on the starting team. I don't think that he is a team player in that he does not appear to follow team tactics. But he is a very good impact sub. Players not mentioned, some players played well and at least 6 played very well. Two ridiculous incidents were (1) Cian O'Neill appearing to tell Colm Cooper what to do when he was about to come on as a sub. I think at this stage Colm knows more than most what to do on the field. (2) The second item was Man Of The Match. The 2 bad foot passes alone should have ruled him out. Is there something incorrect in the coaching in Dr Crokes set-up. There must be very little defending coaching done in that it appears that Fitzgerald, Buckley and O'Leary are incapable to either tackle or disposes an opponent with the ball. I suppose we cannot complain as Crokes gave us Colm Cooper - the most skilful player playing Gaelic football. Are you having a bad day or something? Why so negative?! I concur. Brigid, I recall you having no faith in Fitzmaurice and his management team, in a post during last year's league. Where do you have the bar set?
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Post by southward on Jul 21, 2015 20:23:57 GMT
Just catching up on the various Sunday Game clips. They are a pitiful bunch. The amount of times the penalty incident has been cited as having cost poor Cork the tie is pitiful. McStay continues with his dose of Curry scour. I t is disappointing to see someone like Dolan sitting back when Cahill and McStay are having their little contrived Curry moment on TSG. Contrived is the word alright. No surprise re Dolan. If you want to look back at the live match broadcast, he was clearly rooting for Cork beforehand. Tipped them too. Seemed a bit despondent afterwards.
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Post by ballynamona on Jul 21, 2015 20:32:11 GMT
I don't mind Dolan though. He is at the very least a break from the usual suspects. He may have been rooting for Cork, as underdogs, but I didn't get the feeling that he was too put out.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 21, 2015 20:52:19 GMT
I don't mind Dolan though. He is at the very least a break from the usual suspects. He may have been rooting for Cork, as underdogs, but I didn't get the feeling that he was too put out. ...and he is a bit of actual craic.
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Post by veteran on Jul 21, 2015 21:23:48 GMT
Brigid says re Johnny Buckley " of course he cannot tackle or dispossess a player". Anybody remember who tackled/dispossessed Michael Shields for Kieran's goal in the drawn game?
Johnny has had a surprisingly poor championship so far. I wonder is he carrying an injury? I am convinced this man will still be a major figure for us before the year is out.
Some members have referred to AO'M's excessive musculature of a few years ago which seemed to impair his effectiveness. It appears he is moving more freely now even though he is several years older. I mention this because the same thing seems to have happened Stephen O'Brien. Stephen has developed very strong thighs over the past winter/spring, not a bad thing in itself, but I wonder if he has overdone the gym work with an attendant diminution in his mobility/agility. In the old days "muscle bound" was an expression used.
Paddy McBrearty is another man who has go unbelievably powerful since last year. It doesn't seem to have impaired him, yet in any case.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 21, 2015 21:36:48 GMT
Regarding Tommy Walsh and his omission from draw & replay. It must be remembered that (a) Tommy has played very little football so far this year (4 games with Strand Rd and (b) that he suffered a career threatening injury when tearing his hamstring off the bone in 2013; this took 12 months + of rehab alone. One has only to look at the Gooch's comments after Sat night regarding his own recuperation to realise what both of these guys have suffered in past couple of years. Hopefully we will see Tommy make a contribution before the year is out.
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Post by fitz on Jul 21, 2015 21:52:30 GMT
Brigid says re Johnny Buckley " of course he cannot tackle or dispossess a player". Anybody remember who tackled/dispossessed Michael Shields for Kieran's goal in the drawn game? Johnny has had a surprisingly poor championship so far. I wonder is he carrying an injury? I am convinced this man will still be a major figure for us before the year is out. Some members have referred to AO'M's excessive musculature of a few years ago which seemed to impair his effectiveness. It appears he is moving more freely now even though he is several years older. I mention this because the same thing seems to have happened Stephen O'Brien. Stephen has developed very strong thighs over the past winter/spring, not a bad thing in itself, but I wonder if he has overdone the gym work with an attendant diminution in his mobility/agility. In the old days "muscle bound" was an expression used. Paddy McBrearty is another man who has go unbelievably powerful since last year. It doesn't seem to have impaired him, yet in any case. Agree - Aidan is in fantastic fettle. Hi flex looks significantly improved and his cruise speed is up a few notches. Bouncing off the ground. Yeah - the knives are out for big J - the short memories are in full flow. After 2013 semi - not a man for Croke park, too slow yada yada. Big Johnny had a purler of a game against Donegal in the final and got possibly the key point after Donegal pulled back 3 in a row straight after Star's goal. The man has had a couple of poor games with indiscipline in the tackle, but he's a young guy with plenty in the heart and great attitude. Folks need to give him a break big time.
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Post by ballynamona on Jul 21, 2015 21:56:59 GMT
Was just listening to Terrace Talk. Sylvester Henneesy made a good point about how slow Kerry can be to bring players into the senior panel. And of course some guys can be on the panel for a few years before establishing themselves.
Hopefully some of the recent crop of minors will get a run in the league next year.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 21, 2015 22:09:32 GMT
Just catching up on the various Sunday Game clips. They are a pitiful bunch. The amount of times the penalty incident has been cited as having cost poor Cork the tie is pitiful. McStay continues with his dose of Curry scour. I t is disappointing to see someone like Dolan sitting back when Cahill and McStay are having their little contrived Curry moment on TSG. Contrived is the word alright. No surprise re Dolan. If you want to look back at the live match broadcast, he was clearly rooting for Cork beforehand. Tipped them too. Seemed a bit despondent afterwards. It is pitiful * chaired by Cahill.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 21, 2015 22:33:09 GMT
Regarding the keeper situation, You'd have to feel for Kelly getting injured at the beginning of the year really let Kealy back in.
2012 goal conceded from a sideline ball vrs Donegal will forever be imprinted on my mind. Not to mention the countless balls kicked out over the sideline.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 21, 2015 22:40:40 GMT
Was just listening to Terrace Talk. Sylvester Henneesy made a good point about how slow Kerry can be to bring players into the senior panel. And of course some guys can be on the panel for a few years before establishing themselves. Hopefully some of the recent crop of minors will get a run in the league next year. Jack will have sole rights to that group next year, hopefully into late April.............
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Post by norman on Jul 21, 2015 22:42:35 GMT
11,12 & 13 Kealy cost us bigtime. I don't see anything in his game since to give me confidence in him. Opposing teams will have done their homework on him in the coming games. A good shot-stopper but lacks presence in the goalmouth and still suspect under the high ball. Surely we have someone better in the county?
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Post by seaniebo on Jul 21, 2015 23:25:26 GMT
Brigid. Donnachadh Walsh may not have impressed you with his attempt at goal but did his run from miles out to get into that position have any impact on your impression?
What I might suggest to you is keep a close eye on Donnachadh the next time he's in action. If a back is in trouble you're more likely to find him helping out. He links the play like no other. He always provides an attacking option going forward. He's the most honest hard working player we have. Take note of how many times he sneaks in behind opposition defences. The ground he covers is frightening. I for one would hate to mark him. He will never get the limelight but without Donnachadh and players like him the entire team suffer. He's probably the first man on Eamon's team sheet.
Also Brigid just have a quick gander at James O Donoghues point in the second half. Guess who's bursting through looking for the pop pass? That's right Donnachadh. Shortly before that he was digging out his colleagues in defence. He's always in the right place at the right time. Had James popped it we may even have gotten a goal out of that attack.
In the drawn game look who's to the left of Anthony Maher to slip it to for a tap in. That's right Donnachadh again. Maher fisted it over the bar. Thankfully so because we needed another tough test. Criticising Donnachadh is mind boggling at best.
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Post by norman on Jul 22, 2015 0:22:26 GMT
Donnachadh works like a demon and is always the unsung hero but I thinkmore & more people are seeing the value of this man to the cause. A fantastic servant to kerry football.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 22, 2015 8:37:57 GMT
Mike Quirke: Cork leaders were struggling for oxygen
Wednesday, July 22, 2015 By Mike Quirke The last time I can recall a match like we had in Killarney on Saturday night was the ‘rain game’ in 2008 between Kerry and Galway in the big house in Dublin.
It was the same darkness and cold, with walls of rain sweeping down the length of the pitch. July morphed into December, and had people scampering for ponchos instead of sun cream.
Success in replays is normally based around two aspects; adjustments made by management, and the players mindset.
This is where managers earn their crust, and Eamonn Fitzmaurice started with his tweaks long before throw- in by making four personnel changes. Those adjustments gave the team more solidity and teeth at the back, more size and ball winning capabilities in the middle, and a more physical poacher at corner- forward. advertisement
The four that came in were four of Kerry’s top six performers, along with David Moran and Shane Enright.
I’ve long held the belief that replays are won and lost in the mind as opposed to the body. The psychology of sport is a curious thing, and just two short weeks ago Cork were coming to terms with the disappointment of not closing the deal when they had Kerry staggering against the ropes.
They went from being regarded as cannon fodder to a real live championship threat in what seemed like a heartbeat. They must have been struggling to compute the contrasting emotions of performing very well, and getting praise from every corner for the way they dismantled Kerry, but somehow trying to marry that with the angst of not being able to land the knock-out blow.
The ‘if only the referee hadn’t given that penalty’ mentality can fester — the ‘poor us’ mindset is not a winning one. If that lingers in the head, it can give you doubts and makes you question yourself. Cork were back to looking like a team with doubts again at the weekend.
Kerry’s psychology coming out of the drawn game was very different. They were looking at it from a positive angle where they had been well beaten over the 70 minutes and had completely under-performed, yet had stubbornly refused to wilt. They had fought on their back and found a way to escape. They would have felt like they had taken Cork’s best shot and were still standing. If they could improve their individual and collective performances there was no way Cork could get inside their jab.
Cork’s glass was half empty, while Kerry’s was half full.
A player’s mindset going into a big game is what gives him belief and energy. It gives you the confidence to go out and perform knowing everything is in order and every box is ticked — your fitness is solid, there’s a discernible game-plan understood by everyone and you trust in your team-mates… that all combines to give you the belief to express yourself on the pitch.
But a strong body has been undone by a weak mind far too often for management to ignore its importance in a game with a short turn around.
The agenda is set by the gaffer and it feeds down to the senior players before trickling throughout to the whole squad. Eamon Fitzmaurice and Brian Cuthbert would have been battling to set a tone of positivity in their players’ minds over the past fortnight. Desperate to get their squads into the right head-space. Fitzy and Kerry definitely found it.
It may seem like a small thing, but we saw Kerry demonstrate their mindset from the first whistle — Alan O’Connor who was Cork’s top dog the first day out, got completely man-handled by Anthony Maher at the throw-in while David Moran rose uncontested and grabbed possession cleanly. Marker laid… there would be no bullying by the Cork number 8 this day.
Maher and Moran certainly wouldn’t have enjoyed listening to all the chatter in the last fortnight about how Alan O’Connor came back, and after 6 weeks training or so, he tore the Kerry midfield asunder from start to finish. Battered and bullied them.
With the Maher-Moran axis fully re-instated and highly motivated, they took on the responsibility of dominating O’Connor and O’Driscoll and assumed control of the most important sector. That platform gave Kerry an abundance of go-forward ball, which they were starved of in the original fixture.
This phrase ‘hammer the hammer’ is being bandied about and used a bit indiscriminately in some quarters of media to describe Kerry’s approach to last Saturday. It’s a concept that was first brought into the Kerry dressing room by Fitzmaurice when he served his apprenticeship as selector under Jack O’Connor, but its meaning has become more distorted and misinterpreted with each regurgitation.
It originated from New Zealand and the All Blacks; the basic premise is not about physically battering specific opposition players, but is more concerned with targeting the best players and leaders on the other side and focus great attention on winning those key individual match-ups and stopping them having a real influence on the game.
It’s a war of attrition that’s all about gaining a psychological edge. Go right after the head of the snake.
Cork’s hammers the first day were Alan and Donnacha O’Connor along with raiding half back Barry O’Driscoll and sniper Colm O’Neill. Kerry targeted all four and turned each match-up on its head.
Maher took a sledge to Alan O’Connor and had him looking like a man with only 6-8 weeks training in the tank. Paul Murphy completely nullified Donnacha O’Connor’s influence after he had pulled all the strings for Cork the previous day. Murphy’s limpet like defending gave O’Connor none of the breathing space he had enjoyed against Fionn Fitzgerald. Marc Ó Sé too used the conditions and craftiness to his advantage and restricted Colm O’Neill to a much more peripheral role, while a combination of Kerry half forwards took all the energy and zest out of O’Driscoll’s legs and had him running backwards towards his goal more than attacking the Kingdom’s one.
Where Cork were strong the first day out, they were weak last Saturday… that’s what hammering the hammer is all about.
With the Cork leaders struggling for oxygen, Kerry eventually wore them down. Typical Colm Cooper brilliance led to the Paul Geaney goal. His mind may be quicker than his legs these days but Colm is still absolute box office. His introduction transformed Kerry’s play and brought a more assured calmness to the attack. It was interesting to see him as an inside forward again, which is the first time he’s been in there for three years.
Another Fitzmaurice adjustment. That goal sucked all the life and fight out of Cork. They were not to score again.
Kerry now find themselves in an ideal position and have secured an easier route to a potential All-Ireland final date with Dublin. They ground out a low-scoring, hard fought win by making fewer mistakes, but also have loads to work on and are far from the finished article. Kerry looked disjointed at times, unsure of how best to use Kieran Donaghy. And there are plenty of questions. Does Gooch now start inside? Do they go big or small?
Lots for Fitzmaurice to ponder, but I’m sure he’ll be delighted to capture his third Munster Championship in a row.
Cork don’t have much time to lick their wounds, and Cuthbert’s interview after the game was that of a dejected man under a lot of pressure. That’s a worry.
Kildare are after finding some form and some confidence and won’t fear the Rebels in Semple Stadium on Saturday night.
It’s not tired bodies that will do for Cork next Saturday, but it might just be tired minds.
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