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Post by kerrygold on Oct 20, 2015 8:11:10 GMT
According to Weeshie this is Legion's first appearance in a County Final since 1946 - that will be some occassion for the club. Rathmore were attempting to make their first final ever (if I heard him right). The result yesterday also gives a little clarity on the club playoff for to see who retains senior championship status for 2016 - 8 clubs playing off for 5 places. Any further clarity on the talk of some clubs opting out? It will be some occasion for the Legion. So long watching neighbours Crokes in the county final. One thing that sticks out is the strength of GAA in Killarney at present. Crokes a super club in football and contested the last two intermediate hurling finals, Legion in the senior final and Spa losing the intermediate final with some fine young players. re who will the championship out, Kenmare have some super skilful and young players. A forward line that has Teddy Doyle, Stephen O'Brien, Paul O'Connor, Killian Spillane has a lot going for it Agreed, Killarney must be one of the most vibrant places in the country, financially, sporting wise and in terms of being a good place to live outside of the main urban centres in Ireland, Dublin, Cork and Galway. So the county championship has been whittled down to a tri-club championship of the Iveragh Peninsula. We could almost rename this year's county championship The Ring of Kerry Championship. Further more the Junior and Intermediate championship winners will also winter along the Ring route in 2015.
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Post by actionman on Oct 20, 2015 10:50:18 GMT
I presume that the county final will be played in Killarney as Tralee is out of action, I don’t think there is any other venue that’s available maybe John Mitchell’s if South Kerry get to the final.
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Post by millbank on Oct 20, 2015 11:40:12 GMT
Congrats Legion.Strong spine down middle, and Peter has them well organised. They played 4 across middle , and 2 and 2 inside, movement of their forwards superb. Rathmore apart from opening spell where they could have killed off the game were ultimately unbalanced with switch of Paul Murphy and Conor O Sullivan, as forward link up play to their inside line who were showing and moving well dried up after 20 mins, injuries to some of their key players also factor.
Rathmore kickouts strategy straight down middle with no variation when Legion on top was also a factor in defeat.Rathmore subs no impact, would have left John Moynihan on, and switched Aidan O Mahoney to forty last quarter, and Bons to midfield.
If Rathmore can get injured players back next year, John Moynihan injury free season!!, keep Tom and Aidan for another year, add Mark Ryan and Brian Friel to mix, and play their best player Paul Murphy as their playmaker can build on this season progress.
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Post by OnTheForty on Oct 20, 2015 14:27:25 GMT
On another point though, Rathmore fielded in their defence 3 men who have played senior football for Kerry, each has won at least one All Ireland, one All Star and has been awarded Man of the Match in an All Ireland senior final. Is this a record for a Club? Great question, it must be unique for any club. Even South Kerry could not claim this honour. Maybe Stacks in the 70/80's? Ballyhale Shamrocks might have achieved it: Shefflin and TJ are two, then Cha or the Fennellys.
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Post by greengold35 on Oct 20, 2015 18:01:17 GMT
Will Aidan O'Mahonys red card rule him out of the relegation game or be carried over to next year's championship?
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 20, 2015 18:26:02 GMT
On another point though, Rathmore fielded in their defence 3 men who have played senior football for Kerry, each has won at least one All Ireland, one All Star and has been awarded Man of the Match in an All Ireland senior final. Is this a record for a Club? Great question, it must be unique for any club. Even South Kerry could not claim this honour. Maybe Stacks in the 70/80's? Ballyhale Shamrocks might have achieved it: Shefflin and TJ are two, then Cha or the Fennellys. An Gaeltacht and Templenoe can't be too far off that accolade with the O'Se and Spillane clans. Tom and Pat won Man of Match awards, not sure about Mick? How many of the OSe brothers did? All six have All-Star awards.
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Post by glengael on Oct 20, 2015 19:37:10 GMT
I don't think an O'Se ever won MOTM as far as I can remember. My recent list would be
1997 Maurice. 2000 Seamus Moynihan 2004 Gooch 2006 Aidan O'Mahony 2007 Not sure I think it was gooch or Kieran Donaghy 2009 Tom Sullivan 2014 Paul Murphy.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 20, 2015 19:58:07 GMT
Its an awful shame that Aiden or Tom Sullivan never got to captain Kerry
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 20, 2015 20:01:24 GMT
The general Killarney area of Spa, Crokes, Kilcummin and Legion as well as Dingle amd An Ghaeltacht to the west will be the heartbeat of Kerry for the next while.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 21, 2015 6:29:57 GMT
The general Killarney area of Spa, Crokes, Kilcummin and Legion as well as Dingle amd An Ghaeltacht to the west will be the heartbeat of Kerry for the next while. I agree with you on Aidan and Tom- 2 great servants. On the above- I think there is still a decent but to come from the town teams- stacks won last year and have some very, very strong underage teams coming through- teams that are cleaning house at their age- and stacks will be the coming team over the next decade as their catchment areas have enjoyed a serious population boom. KOR will be strong aswell- they won the under 21 championship and have some good players coming through. They have nowhere near the catchment population that stacks have but if Cormac Coffey and Jack savage get a run in the league next year- then you are looking at them potentially having 5 on the county panel. Stacks are much like Crokes were 10 years ago- very strong at underage level- so it will be interesting to see can they translate it into the success that the Killarney boys have. There's a bit of life in ballydonoghue aswell due to their recent underage success but the rest of NK aren't setting the world alight.
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 21, 2015 8:31:10 GMT
The same way it will be nice if JOD is Kerry captain in 2016.....................
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Post by mossie on Oct 21, 2015 19:10:42 GMT
The general Killarney area of Spa, Crokes, Kilcummin and Legion as well as Dingle amd An Ghaeltacht to the west will be the heartbeat of Kerry for the next while. I agree with you on Aidan and Tom- 2 great servants. On the above- I think there is still a decent but to come from the town teams- stacks won last year and have some very, very strong underage teams coming through- teams that are cleaning house at their age- and stacks will be the coming team over the next decade as their catchment areas have enjoyed a serious population boom. KOR will be strong aswell- they won the under 21 championship and have some good players coming through. They have nowhere near the catchment population that stacks have but if Cormac Coffey and Jack savage get a run in the league next year- then you are looking at them potentially having 5 on the county panel. Stacks are much like Crokes were 10 years ago- very strong at underage level- so it will be interesting to see can they translate it into the success that the Killarney boys have. There's a bit of life in ballydonoghue aswell due to their recent underage success but the rest of NK aren't setting the world alight. Be hard for Jack or Cormac or other under 21 players to get a good run at the league if the 21s get a good run Very impressed with Killarney at the moment. It is vibrant town which helps clubs but it presents other challenges - teenagers with summer\weekend jobs keeping them from training plus the nightlife etc
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Post by Premier on Oct 25, 2015 12:00:44 GMT
Can't see south kerry winning today, lack of a class forward who can kick 1-5 on his day will come back to haunt them
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Post by glengael on Oct 25, 2015 16:50:54 GMT
Can't see south kerry winning today, lack of a class forward who can kick 1-5 on his day will come back to haunt them Great news- it appears they found at least one class forward in South Kerry. Lad by the name of Sheehan. It's Legion v South Kerry in the final on November 8th.
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Post by Premier on Oct 25, 2015 19:20:51 GMT
Can't see south kerry winning today, lack of a class forward who can kick 1-5 on his day will come back to haunt them Great news- it appears they found at least one class forward in South Kerry. Lad by the name of Sheehan. It's Legion v South Kerry in the final on November 8th. Haha it's very handy alright when you don't need inside forwards and you can kick it straight over their heads from 50 yards over the bar, some player
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Post by hatchetman on Oct 25, 2015 19:26:14 GMT
Anyone got a detailed report?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2015 20:08:04 GMT
It has not been a great Championship. I was hoping maybe we could find some new players for the County team others than the ones we know but I can't see too many new players really. Podge O'Connor from Legion is one player who did have a good championship and I think he needs a good few games in the league for Kerry at corner back. Conor Keane is another guy you could look at. He will be with u21s though so probably wont be until Later in the year. Aidan Walsh from St.Mary's had a good Championship. He could maybe get a look. Tadhg Morley from Templenoe maybe in the backs could get a look. Killian Spillane of course but again he will with the u21s. Cathal Murphy from Rathmore could possibly get a look. Shane Murphy from Kilcummin for Goalkeeper. Can't see too much more really.
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 25, 2015 22:02:23 GMT
It has not been a great Championship. I was hoping maybe we could find some new players for the County team others than the ones we know but I can't see too many new players really. Podge O'Connor from Legion is one player who did have a good championship and I think he needs a good few games in the league for Kerry at corner back. Conor Keane is another guy you could look at. He will be with u21s though so probably wont be until Later in the year. Aidan Walsh from St.Mary's had a good Championship. He could maybe get a look. Tadhg Morley from Templenoe maybe in the backs could get a look. Killian Spillane of course but again he will with the u21s. Cathal Murphy from Rathmore could possibly get a look. Shane Murphy from Kilcummin for Goalkeeper. Can't see too much more really. Brian Sugrue on Paul O'Connor today was excellent and with Robert Wharton were the best of the young players on view. Indeed I'd think Rob Wharton played himself into contention for a starting place on the u21 team today. South Kerry were the better team throughout the game. Brian Sheehan was the stand out talent on view and was the main difference between the two teams. His place kicking from distance was sublime while his winning kick from play was out of the top drawer from about 50 metres out at the end of the game. The county final must be pretty much a 50/50 game. Aidan Walsh also kick a couple of exceptional points from play towards the end of the game.
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Post by veteran on Oct 26, 2015 9:23:25 GMT
South Kerry 0-12 Kenmare 0-11 HT 0-5 0-4
As in the game against Kilcummin, South Kerry looked at stages in this match as if their goose was cooked, particularly in the last five minutes or so when trailing by two points. But cometh the hour, cometh Bryan Sheehan.
The swirling breeze made shooting difficult but still the the game was reasonably enjoyable because the likely winner was uncertain all through and indeed it attained feverish status in the last ten minutes or so. Kenmare started well with the impressive Brian Crowley slotting over a fine point. Shortly afterwards, Adrian Spillane, a solid presence at midfield, scythed through to unleash powerfully but Brian O'Conner mad a great save. Adrian latched onto the rebound but Brian denied him again with an equally good save. Had that goal been scored it would have put the youthful, enthusiastic Kenmare boys four up and may well have propelled them on their way, as early as it was in the match. The remainder of the half progressed more or less on an even keel but in the final play of the half South Kerry almost got a goal of their own. Ian Galvin contested a high ball with Tadhg Morley, impressive all through at full back. The ball broke, Ian gathered and turned smartly before shooting what seemed like a certain goal. However, like his counterpart at the other end, Kieran Fizgibbom made a great save to leave just a point in it at the break.
The quality was better in the second half. Significantly, Paul O'Donoghue was placed at full forward now where he kicked two fine points and also kept Tadhg Morley occupied. Aiden Walsh also emerged from his shell and curled over two. But Kenmare were not about to concede. Players like John Spillane and Dara O'Shea at the back were very tight and tidy and up front Stephen O'Brien, for a while was a threat, scoring two points. Paul O'Connor was doing his duty from frees, kicking seven all together. When substitute, Sean O'Shea, kicked over to give Kenmare a two point lead with about five minutes to go it looked as if their defiant application would be rewarded. But no. The fat lady has to be introduced before the end is signalled. South Kerry had no intention of allowing the fat lady on stage until they had vacated the premises. Driven from the back by Killian, too much for Stephen O'Brien over the course of the game, and inspired by Bryan Sheehan, the best midfielder and most influential player on the field, and given a psychological lift by the introduction of Declan, South Kerry demonstrated, for all their shortcomings, why Kilcummin recently and now Kenmare, and perhaps Legion in the near future, why they are a difficult outfit to subdue. They replied with a free from Bryan, he scored five in all with some of them being kicked from the outback, and then Denis Daly sliced over a beauty to tie the scores.Surely a draw now. No. The fat lady was brushed off the stage. There was an interplay between Declan and Bryan about fifty metres or so from the Kenmare goal. It evoked the sight of New Zealand forwards setting up Dan Carter for a drop goal. Dan is paid handsomely for those executions. Bryan does it as a pastime. He struck it as sweetly and confidently as he always does, allowing for the breeze, it soared over with plenty to spare. Has a better or as good a kicker of a ball ever played for Kerry. If there has then it is very likely that he similarly hailed from the deep south- consider Mick O'Connell, Mick O'Dwyer, Maurice Fizgerald, My God, could all those boys kick a ball. And now you have Bryan.
Apart from the players mentioned already, South Kerry had other notable players in Brian Sugrue and Paul O'Sullivan. I was impressed by young Robert Wharton at wing back, particularly in the first half.
Heartbreak then for Kenmare. They deserved a draw but as they say deserve has nothing to do with it. One of their problems was that, unlike South Kerry, they did not get enough from their name players. Apart from frees, Paul O'Connor made little contribution and Killian Spillane less. Stephen O'Brien scored two but generally played second violin to Killian. Kevin O'Sullivan and Brian Crowley were probably the best of their forwards. Adrian Spillane and, to a less extent, Flor O'Sullivan made an impact at midfield. It is poor consolation to Kenmare this morning but if this young team sticks together it is easy to suggest that they will make a big impact next year.
Declan got a yellow card shortly after coming on which appeared a little harsh. He deservedly got a black card after Bryan's winning point for a cynically clumsy tackle. On the other hand, he played a role in the winning point and clearly even his presence emboldens his colleagues.
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Post by sayitasiseeit on Oct 26, 2015 12:44:11 GMT
It has not been a great Championship. I was hoping maybe we could find some new players for the County team others than the ones we know but I can't see too many new players really. Podge O'Connor from Legion is one player who did have a good championship and I think he needs a good few games in the league for Kerry at corner back. Conor Keane is another guy you could look at. He will be with u21s though so probably wont be until Later in the year. Aidan Walsh from St.Mary's had a good Championship. He could maybe get a look. Tadhg Morley from Templenoe maybe in the backs could get a look. Killian Spillane of course but again he will with the u21s. Cathal Murphy from Rathmore could possibly get a look. Shane Murphy from Kilcummin for Goalkeeper. Can't see too much more really. Brian Sugrue on Paul O'Connor today was excellent and with Robert Wharton were the best of the young players on view. Indeed I'd think Rob Wharton played himself into contention for a starting place on the u21 team today. South Kerry were the better team throughout the game. Brian Sheehan was the stand out talent on view and was the main difference between the two teams. His place kicking from distance was sublime while his winning kick from play was out of the top drawer from about 50 metres out at the end of the game. The county final must be pretty much a 50/50 game. Aidan Walsh also kick a couple of exceptional points from play towards the end of the game. Jesus that's a fair analysis by you about Brian Sugrue. He did play well but he never marked Paul O Connor at any stage in that game. O Connor was on Sullivan from Valentia. Sugrue was on Spillane
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Post by Premier on Oct 26, 2015 16:51:17 GMT
It has not been a great Championship. I was hoping maybe we could find some new players for the County team others than the ones we know but I can't see too many new players really. Podge O'Connor from Legion is one player who did have a good championship and I think he needs a good few games in the league for Kerry at corner back. Conor Keane is another guy you could look at. He will be with u21s though so probably wont be until Later in the year. Aidan Walsh from St.Mary's had a good Championship. He could maybe get a look. Tadhg Morley from Templenoe maybe in the backs could get a look. Killian Spillane of course but again he will with the u21s. Cathal Murphy from Rathmore could possibly get a look. Shane Murphy from Kilcummin for Goalkeeper. Can't see too much more really. Killian Spillane? You clearly weren't at the county semi final yesterday. He was non-existent, and I think he has gone back massively since minors. Was supposed to be drawn into the seniors straight off of the minors but didn't even make the bench for the u21s last year
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 26, 2015 18:44:42 GMT
It has not been a great Championship. I was hoping maybe we could find some new players for the County team others than the ones we know but I can't see too many new players really. Podge O'Connor from Legion is one player who did have a good championship and I think he needs a good few games in the league for Kerry at corner back. Conor Keane is another guy you could look at. He will be with u21s though so probably wont be until Later in the year. Aidan Walsh from St.Mary's had a good Championship. He could maybe get a look. Tadhg Morley from Templenoe maybe in the backs could get a look. Killian Spillane of course but again he will with the u21s. Cathal Murphy from Rathmore could possibly get a look. Shane Murphy from Kilcummin for Goalkeeper. Can't see too much more really. Killian Spillane? You clearly weren't at the county semi final yesterday. He was non-existent, and I think he has gone back massively since minors. Was supposed to be drawn into the seniors straight off of the minors but didn't even make the bench for the u21s last year People have heard the name Spillane and practically messed themselves. He has talent but people have been hyping up and putting too much pressure on him. In terms of young talent- he's behind Conor Keane, Michael Burns and Jack Savage in terms of coming through from the 21s.
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Post by A.N. Other on Oct 26, 2015 21:55:03 GMT
I agree, I think he will find it hard to make the starting 15 of the Kerry Under 21s this year too.
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 26, 2015 22:06:32 GMT
Killian Spillane? You clearly weren't at the county semi final yesterday. He was non-existent, and I think he has gone back massively since minors. Was supposed to be drawn into the seniors straight off of the minors but didn't even make the bench for the u21s last year People have heard the name Spillane and practically messed themselves. He has talent but people have been hyping up and putting too much pressure on him. In terms of young talent- he's behind Conor Keane, Michael Burns and Jack Savage in terms of coming through from the 21s. Pat Spillane is the architect of any pressure on the player with his idiotic comments last year. Nobody "messed themselves" as you put it.
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Post by seasiders on Oct 26, 2015 22:26:05 GMT
People have heard the name Spillane and practically messed themselves. He has talent but people have been hyping up and putting too much pressure on him. In terms of young talent- he's behind Conor Keane, Michael Burns and Jack Savage in terms of coming through from the 21s. Pat Spillane is the architect of any pressure on the player with his idiotic comments last year. Nobody "messed themselves" as you put it. While I agree Pat Spillane didn't help his nephew with his comments I don't think this forum should be used to put down young players, Killian is a fine footballer and still U21 yrs of age.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 26, 2015 22:40:29 GMT
Given that its usually the age of 24 by the Kerry players establish themselves, I wont be expecting much from Killian till 2020.
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Post by mossie on Oct 26, 2015 22:55:18 GMT
Killian is a very good prospect and has time on his side to make the senior team. I thought there were several as good as him on the 2014 minors so he is in the same bracket as them all in terms of trying to make it at senior level. Kenmare's and Templenoe's run this year doing him no harm to aid his development
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Post by mossie on Oct 26, 2015 23:00:16 GMT
The experience of the south Kerry lads got them over the line against a youthful Kenmare. Of course South Kerry have fine skilful players too but experience of a few players was key. If Kenmare can keep this team together there is a county title in them. some really fine talent in the district and they have a few to come into the side next year
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Post by lofbros on Oct 27, 2015 3:31:24 GMT
I was at the 1946 county final a small boy when legion beat the Mitchels who had kegh ane bruddy o donnell simon deighen of cavan and mick cahill of tipperary station in the army in tralee
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 15:31:37 GMT
Killian Spillane nor Conor Keane will get any look until the u21s are over. He is a very talented footballer. I agree his uncle put a lot of pressure on him. We will see how he goes with the u21s next year. Shane Murphy(Kilcummin) Cathal Murphy(Rathmore) Jack Maguire(Listowel Emmets) David Culhane(Ballylongford) Gavin Crowley(Templenoe) Tadhg Morley(Templenoe) Podge O'Connor(Legion) Jack Sherwood(Firies) Tommy Walsh(Kerins O'Rahiily's) Shaun Keane(Legion) Gavin O’Grady(Glenbeigh /Glencar) Conor Cox(Listowel Emmets) Thomas Hickey(Castleisland Desmonds) will probably all get a look.
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