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Post by playitfair on Jul 22, 2014 17:54:29 GMT
I am still not convinced that Donegal are pitching the same high notes as 2012. They same to be at their 2011 level which will see them exit in the semi-final against Dublin. We must remember they played some great football in 2012.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 22, 2014 20:42:17 GMT
I disagree with Buck02 in that I believe the most important thing in sport is winning.
However I believe that Donegal's 'way' is not sustainable and not attacking enough. I believe they will hold Dublin to 15 pts but unfortunately for them they will fail to match or exceed that mark.
Ergo, in the end, McGuinness will be a revolutionary but not more.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 22, 2014 22:38:57 GMT
Cork manager Brain Cuthbert has made wholesale changes ahead of Saturday’s All-Ireland SFC qualifier against Sligo in Tullamore, making six changes to the line-up which was annihilated by Kerry in the Munster SFC final. The Rebels attack is the area subject to most change, with Mark Collins (centre-forward), Colm O'Driscoll (left half-forward), Colm O'Neill (right corner-forward) and Donal Og Hodnett (left corner-forward) drafted into the starting line-up. Brian O'Driscoll has been selected at left-half back to shore up a defence which conceded 24 points against the Kingdom. Captain Michael Shields and James Loughrey swap roles in a positional change, with the former making the switch from right corner-back to right half-back. Ian Maguire has been named in midfield. Damien Cahalane, Fintan Goold, Patrick Kelly, Daniel Goulding, Barry O’Driscoll and John O’Rourke all drop to the bench, while Donncha O'Connor and Kevin Crowley were not considered for the O'Connor Park encounter due to injury. Cork: Ken O’Halloran; James Loughrey, Eoin Cadogan, Noel Galvin; Michael Shields, Thomas Clancy, Brian O’Driscoll; Ian Maguire, Aidan Walsh; Paul Kerrigan, Mark Collins, Colm O’Driscoll; Colm O’Neill, Brian Hurley, Donal Óg Hodnett.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 22, 2014 22:40:36 GMT
Its very difficult to see Cork progressing beyond a quarter final this year.
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Post by fitz on Jul 23, 2014 11:05:55 GMT
Harsh on Goulding, he kicked scores from play and did his freetaking duties, living off scraps. The Dublin v Donegal match if it happens will be intriguing. No team has the pace Dublin have on all lines. They are ver disciplined as Tomas pointed out they have no black cards, they don't have need for them. So, you are not going to set up to allow them play their optimal game. Donegal, Kerry and Mayo collectively don't have that level of pace throughout their team. Also, Donegal don't have as many tip calibre footballers as Dublin. Whilst I agree that the Ulster final was torture, there are but few of these big summer days for winning the big championship games. Winning is most important, not at all costs but at most. The winter is a long stretch to be thinking about the beautiful game, when you're flung out on your arse in July/August. Dublin and Donegal have brought two differing systems to new levels, they will be perfect anti-magnetic foes. Both have total belief and conviction. So, some interesting adaptation will be needed to unlock that game if it happens. Dublin should still have too much. Interestingly also Mayo or Kerry if no upset is in the quarter final long grass will have one of two different systems to plan for. You play the beautiful game with the beautiful set of squad footballers. Dublin have lots, Kerry have decent few, Mayo have some and Donegal a few. The offensive to defensive system fits the teams in that order I would suggest.
Devenney's comments whilst he might personally believe them are for early stoking.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 12:33:49 GMT
The Backs look poor Cadogan is not a Full Back . I would have put Jamie O'Sullivan there struggling for good backs since the old guys left .
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Post by Dermot on Jul 23, 2014 15:28:11 GMT
Whatever anyone thinks about Donegals tactics, surely most will see a potential coupling of them v Dublin in the Semi final as an incredibly intriguing match up ... Personally its the one game I'd love to see!!
Donegal would need to improve a fair bit more to get back to 2012 levels but if McFadden can get back on form that may well happen .... Im also fascinated on how Murphy would be used in that game .. Still think he's being underutilised but I aint the manager..
Donegal are a big outfit as well so Id expect a bone crunching P-)game to say the least!!
I think to win an AI now you need the majority of your team to be big hallions !!
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Post by sidelined on Jul 23, 2014 21:54:25 GMT
dublin v donegal a while off yet, first up dublin will have to play winners of kildare and monaghan. monaghan on all known form should win this. playing monaghan will be a great benefit to dublin to develop their tactics to counteract donegals system. 2 brusing games await on the other side as first armagh take on meath with the winners playing donegal. who knows what injuries or suspensions will accrue after these battles!.
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Post by An Ciarraíoch Taistealaíoch on Jul 25, 2014 10:53:02 GMT
I think to win an AI now you need the majority of your team to be big hallions !! A hallion battalion??
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Post by givehimaball on Jul 26, 2014 17:45:49 GMT
Cork get the win against a very average Sligo side. Sligo were putrid in the first half scoring 2 points but in fairness to them came back into it and actually ended up winning the second half (albeit helped by a very cheap goal)
The Mayo lads are probably licking their lips in anticipation of playing this Cork side.
They have decent individuals but when you add them up in terms of an overall team they don't seem to add much (if that makes any sense)
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 27, 2014 0:14:46 GMT
Cork get the win against a very average Sligo side. Sligo were putrid in the first half scoring 2 points but in fairness to them came back into it and actually ended up winning the second half (albeit helped by a very cheap goal) The Mayo lads are probably licking their lips in anticipation of playing this Cork side. They have decent individuals but when you add them up in terms of an overall team they don't seem to add much (if that makes any sense) The sum of the whole is less than the sum of the parts, if that makes sense? Some of the parts; ah see my 'signature'.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 27, 2014 10:40:56 GMT
It is strange that so many spoke in the media during the week about possible victories for both Sligo and Tipp in these two games.
It is a real inconvenience for non Sky subscribers to actually view these and upcoming games. I'd say many people just didn't bother going to watch them on the box.
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Post by givehimaball on Jul 27, 2014 18:07:08 GMT
It is strange that so many spoke in the media during the week about possible victories for both Sligo and Tipp in these two games. It is a real inconvenience for non Sky subscribers to actually view these and upcoming games. I'd say many people just didn't bother going to watch them on the box. I don't think too many were talking up Sligo's chances - they were 10/1 with the bookies. I think it was more the case of people saying if Cork were as bad as they were against Kerry and Tipp again, Sligo might have had a chance. Sligo of course blew it with the worst half of championship football from a group of forwards I have seen in the first half in a long time - they got plenty of ball (had more possession than Cork in the first half) but the amount of mistakes the Sligo forwards made in the first half was untrue - it was just a continuous horror show of mistakes any time the forwards got on the ball. However they redeemed themselves in the 2nd half and ended up winning that half. Tipp were pretty much evens I think and to be fair if they hadn't let in 4 goals in 10 minutes of play - things could have been very different [obviously says you] - up until then they were well in the match, playing some decent ball and if anything should probably have been a point or two ahead of Galway. The timing of these goals was a massive blow - especially the third and fourth right after half-time. Still they kept on plugging away and managed to give Galway a bit of a scare in the closing stages (even if the penalty was on the soft side) This was the 3rd game this year where Tipp let in 4 goals and it's clear that they had a weakness in terms of defending goal chances, especially in terms of the keeper who really looked a fair bit off what's required at intercounty level. If they can work on the whole goal issue I would expect Tipp to continue their progress next season but if they don't do anything about this it could well be a millstone to their hopes of making progress longterm.
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Post by givehimaball on Jul 27, 2014 22:11:47 GMT
Looking at the Sunday Game and Cork, I'm reminded of the line about "Generals always fighting the last war" and I think that Cork's tactics looked like they were created based on what happened in the Kerry game as opposed to planning ahead for facing Mayo.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 28, 2014 11:09:10 GMT
okay the quality of football at times can be dire when teams are trying to break down donegals system, but its intriguing watching them try. donegals system depends on taking an early lead and suck teams in and catch them on counter attack. mc fadden was on fire in 2012, they badly need someone to shoulder that responsibility this year. murphy has gone very defencive for such a quaility attacker. mcguinness knew that donegal would never win an ulster title let alone an allireland if they played "normal football system" what that is now days The problem with this is that it's only intriguing when the other team are trying to play football. What happens when both teams play with this "tactic" is that you get a complete slugfest, see Donegal v Monaghan. Take this tactic to its nth degree, you would have two teams with 13 men inside their own half, handpassing it to each other with no pressure on the ball. You would also need two balls, the score would be nil all, and there would be nobody there to watch it. Without wishing to get ahead of myself here in terms of a potential semi final, Brendan Devenney was on newstalk last night extolling the virtues of Donegal. He said McGuinness is a genius, and also threw into the mix that in the history of sport, when a great defensive set up comes up against a great attacking set up, the defensive set up wins 100% of the time. Which was all news to me but interesting nonetheless. He said there is not a chance that Dublin will beat Donegal in a semi final. Much to ponder in all of that. I wouldn't be paying much attention to that Skyblue, I'd be alot more interested in how we turn up mentally in the quarter final and how we deal with, almost certainly, a very good Monaghan team with a big point to prove and very little expectation. I'll be assuming, if it is Monaghan, that they will produce a very big performance, will revel in the space that Dublin allow, and will punish any lack of intensity that Dublin may have if some sense of complacency has set in on any level. This latter is the biggest and very real threat currently that we need to be wary of, and I mean in that no disrespect to the opposition. Time and time again it has been shown that any team, no matter how formidable the reputation, will come crashing down if the mental approach is not right, if the intensity is not at the required level, especially against a really good team, playing with serious hunger and belief. You only need to throw in an injury or two for an almost irreplaceable player (McCauley, Bernard Brogan, Rory O'Carroll?), a sending off/suspension, a contrary referee, and a day when things don't fall right for you. What Brendan Devenney would like more than anything, along with many others, is that Dublin take their eye off the ball that is actually there in play. That way Donegal would certainly be in a strong position, as would several other teams. You only have to look back a few years, when the re cent great Kerry team were at their peak, a Monaghan team with a fair amount of hype and expectation about them took that Kerry team to within a point on two occasions in quarter finals. Apart frm anything else Monaghan as a county set-up will have learned something from those recent experiences
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 28, 2014 11:20:23 GMT
Some people say that Stephen Cluxton, M.D. Macaulay and Paul O'Flynn are the three most important players on the Dublin team and they may be right. It is not unfair to say that they were scarcely Dublin's most important players today. In spite of that, they eviscerated Meath. The other boyos can't be too bad either! In a way, this Dublin team remind me of the Kerry team who won four in a row and then three in a row. That team did not just beat teams, very often they massacred tams and thereby demoralised them and, as a result, put the fear of God in the team they were to oppose next. There is a strong element of that about the current Dubs. A lot of people bemoan Dublin's current dominance. If a Dublin dominance it is to be, the redeeming feature is that they are dominating by playing football of the first rank. One cannot say that about what we saw in Clones today. This was unadulterated drivel, an exhibition of the type of football that repels, repels me at least. I was naive enough to imagine that the black card would eliminate most of this diabolical tripe. Now, I accept that the blanket defence is a legitimate concept and ,understandably, it will be utiised as long as it is perceived to be successful. But will it attract people to play the game and watch the game? I submit that the only aspect of that type of game which persuades people to leave their home is the element of tribalism. Admittedly, tribalism is a hugely important concept in the GAA but it should not be the only ingredient in a particular match. Surely, the casual follower will not be tempted to come again by the level of finesse and skill on show in the Donegal/Monaghan. For example, witness the asinine approach of Monaghan today. Repeatedly , they deliver a long kick into their one forward up front who has to contend with four or five Donegal defenders, while the bulk of their team wander around ,like a flock of sheep who have lost their way, awaiting Donegal's next offensive move. The cure? My old hobby horse. Curtail the hand pass- limit it to two or three in any particular movement. Then watch the "blanket defence" kick pass their way up the field rather than "basketball" their way towards the opposing goal. As far as I know, the county who won the senior championship in each province also won the minor. If that is so, I wonder has this been done before? Rashers, I thought my old friend Denis Bastick had retired. Hi Veteran, good to see you back posting here. Aul Denis is alive and well and still keeping the young, modern, ideally developed & ultimately prepared player very much on his toes. Despite his one or two faults and deficits as a footballer, I'd have to say I couldn't pick a player I more enjoy seeing on the pitch for us. Perhaps that's just old-school sentimentalism but whatever way you look at it, he brings a sense of leadership, and down-to-earth non-nonsense that is still an invaluable currency on any team, and more often these days ignored or taken for granted. To be honest, the fact that he survives at all at this exhalted level is a wonder in itself, an awkward, somewhat limited and not aesthetically pleasing product of the junior football scene who as you know struggled seriously with disciplinary issues in his earlier days with the senior team. It's a story made for the hindsight historical & biographical chronicallers and one that I really hope is told in years to come. On another note, I can't agree with the swell of anti-Donegal/Ulster/negative football that is current/fashionable at the moment. I think any sport takes all sorts, and I find the tactics and rugged intensity of the battles between two treams playing a more defensive style really interesting to watch in gaelic football (perhaps more so than soccer, where scoring can be such an extreme premium). I also think my favourite games are those that embody a real contrast of styles, Cork-Donegal from 2 years ago being quite a good example, even though it's more accurate to say that when one team plays very attacking football, the other usually, and did in this case, follows suit to some degree. That was the best game of football I can recall from that year. The Kerry-Donegal game was also excellent, but marked by more mistakes and nervousness than the one that followed. I recently for the first time watched the infamous 2011 semi between Donegal and Dublin in full, and I have to say it was really enthralling and fascinating. Yes I would not want too many games to be like that but now and then when such a phenomenon is thrown up, it is what really engages many people even in a neutral sense. I also thoroughly enjoyed and was thrilled by the Donegal-Kildare game of the same summer. I still love to see Kerry, Galway and the likes play great football but the most enjoyable games of the previous decade for me were the contrasting styles and close contests rather than the purists wonders of Kerry-Galway, or the virtuoso Kerry displays against Mayo, Cork and Dublin, brilliant and all as those were
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Post by givehimaball on Jul 28, 2014 16:56:23 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 28, 2014 17:41:32 GMT
The problem with this is that it's only intriguing when the other team are trying to play football. What happens when both teams play with this "tactic" is that you get a complete slugfest, see Donegal v Monaghan. Take this tactic to its nth degree, you would have two teams with 13 men inside their own half, handpassing it to each other with no pressure on the ball. You would also need two balls, the score would be nil all, and there would be nobody there to watch it. Without wishing to get ahead of myself here in terms of a potential semi final, Brendan Devenney was on newstalk last night extolling the virtues of Donegal. He said McGuinness is a genius, and also threw into the mix that in the history of sport, when a great defensive set up comes up against a great attacking set up, the defensive set up wins 100% of the time. Which was all news to me but interesting nonetheless. He said there is not a chance that Dublin will beat Donegal in a semi final. Much to ponder in all of that. I wouldn't be paying much attention to that Skyblue, I'd be alot more interested in how we turn up mentally in the quarter final and how we deal with, almost certainly, a very good Monaghan team with a big point to prove and very little expectation. I'll be assuming, if it is Monaghan, that they will produce a very big performance, will revel in the space that Dublin allow, and will punish any lack of intensity that Dublin may have if some sense of complacency has set in on any level. This latter is the biggest and very real threat currently that we need to be wary of, and I mean in that no disrespect to the opposition. Time and time again it has been shown that any team, no matter how formidable the reputation, will come crashing down if the mental approach is not right, if the intensity is not at the required level, especially against a really good team, playing with serious hunger and belief. You only need to throw in an injury or two for an almost irreplaceable player (McCauley, Bernard Brogan, Rory O'Carroll?), a sending off/suspension, a contrary referee, and a day when things don't fall right for you. What Brendan Devenney would like more than anything, along with many others, is that Dublin take their eye off the ball that is actually there in play. That way Donegal would certainly be in a strong position, as would several other teams. You only have to look back a few years, when the re cent great Kerry team were at their peak, a Monaghan team with a fair amount of hype and expectation about them took that Kerry team to within a point on two occasions in quarter finals. Apart frm anything else Monaghan as a county set-up will have learned something from those recent experiences At this moment in time I would think Dublin are plus 10 points on Monaghan and in the region of at least between plus 5-8 points on Donegal. Of course that could change over the next few weeks if Donegal drive on another bit in terms of certain players finding extra form. Donegal will have too much for either Meath or Armagh. If Kildare beat Monaghan at the weekend the Dubs quarter final will be a cake walk.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 28, 2014 17:46:57 GMT
Some people say that Stephen Cluxton, M.D. Macaulay and Paul O'Flynn are the three most important players on the Dublin team and they may be right. It is not unfair to say that they were scarcely Dublin's most important players today. In spite of that, they eviscerated Meath. The other boyos can't be too bad either! In a way, this Dublin team remind me of the Kerry team who won four in a row and then three in a row. That team did not just beat teams, very often they massacred tams and thereby demoralised them and, as a result, put the fear of God in the team they were to oppose next. There is a strong element of that about the current Dubs. A lot of people bemoan Dublin's current dominance. If a Dublin dominance it is to be, the redeeming feature is that they are dominating by playing football of the first rank. One cannot say that about what we saw in Clones today. This was unadulterated drivel, an exhibition of the type of football that repels, repels me at least. I was naive enough to imagine that the black card would eliminate most of this diabolical tripe. Now, I accept that the blanket defence is a legitimate concept and ,understandably, it will be utiised as long as it is perceived to be successful. But will it attract people to play the game and watch the game? I submit that the only aspect of that type of game which persuades people to leave their home is the element of tribalism. Admittedly, tribalism is a hugely important concept in the GAA but it should not be the only ingredient in a particular match. Surely, the casual follower will not be tempted to come again by the level of finesse and skill on show in the Donegal/Monaghan. For example, witness the asinine approach of Monaghan today. Repeatedly , they deliver a long kick into their one forward up front who has to contend with four or five Donegal defenders, while the bulk of their team wander around ,like a flock of sheep who have lost their way, awaiting Donegal's next offensive move. The cure? My old hobby horse. Curtail the hand pass- limit it to two or three in any particular movement. Then watch the "blanket defence" kick pass their way up the field rather than "basketball" their way towards the opposing goal. As far as I know, the county who won the senior championship in each province also won the minor. If that is so, I wonder has this been done before? Rashers, I thought my old friend Denis Bastick had retired. Hi Veteran, good to see you back posting here. Aul Denis is alive and well and still keeping the young, modern, ideally developed & ultimately prepared player very much on his toes. Despite his one or two faults and deficits as a footballer, I'd have to say I couldn't pick a player I more enjoy seeing on the pitch for us. Perhaps that's just old-school sentimentalism but whatever way you look at it, he brings a sense of leadership, and down-to-earth non-nonsense that is still an invaluable currency on any team, and more often these days ignored or taken for granted. To be honest, the fact that he survives at all at this exhalted level is a wonder in itself, an awkward, somewhat limited and not aesthetically pleasing product of the junior football scene who as you know struggled seriously with disciplinary issues in his earlier days with the senior team. It's a story made for the hindsight historical & biographical chronicallers and one that I really hope is told in years to come. On another note, I can't agree with the swell of anti-Donegal/Ulster/negative football that is current/fashionable at the moment. I think any sport takes all sorts, and I find the tactics and rugged intensity of the battles between two treams playing a more defensive style really interesting to watch in gaelic football (perhaps more so than soccer, where scoring can be such an extreme premium). I also think my favourite games are those that embody a real contrast of styles, Cork-Donegal from 2 years ago being quite a good example, even though it's more accurate to say that when one team plays very attacking football, the other usually, and did in this case, follows suit to some degree. That was the best game of football I can recall from that year. The Kerry-Donegal game was also excellent, but marked by more mistakes and nervousness than the one that followed. I recently for the first time watched the infamous 2011 semi between Donegal and Dublin in full, and I have to say it was really enthralling and fascinating. Yes I would not want too many games to be like that but now and then when such a phenomenon is thrown up, it is what really engages many people even in a neutral sense. I also thoroughly enjoyed and was thrilled by the Donegal-Kildare game of the same summer. I still love to see Kerry, Galway and the likes play great football but the most enjoyable games of the previous decade for me were the contrasting styles and close contests rather than the purists wonders of Kerry-Galway, or the virtuoso Kerry displays against Mayo, Cork and Dublin, brilliant and all as those were Yes I would concur with this, what Jim McGuinness did with Donegal in 2012 and leading up to 2012 was hugely impressive, innovative and hugely positive. While playing a defensive game through breaking at speed from the back, everything about the way his players conducted themselves was hugely positive. It was one of stunning All-Ireland results of recent times, albeit Mayo were lacking to some degree in the final.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 28, 2014 19:17:32 GMT
I too found the 2011 semi final between Dublin and Donegal enthralling and absorbing. Give me proper defending any day compared to the type of defending that Kerry did for McMenamins goals against us in 2011 and 2013.... not to mention Canavans goal in the 2005 final.
Donegal are probably the only side capable of beating Dublin in 2014.
I hope to jesus that Mayo beat Cork. Should Cork win, their dual players will be in action on successive sundays in All Ireland semi finals in both codes and hurling will always get priority in Cork. If Cork beat Mayo, Kerry could sleepwalk in an All Ireland final like in 2011 and be untested. A semi final win over Mayo would be good preparation.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 29, 2014 9:03:46 GMT
I wouldn't be paying much attention to that Skyblue, I'd be alot more interested in how we turn up mentally in the quarter final and how we deal with, almost certainly, a very good Monaghan team with a big point to prove and very little expectation. I'll be assuming, if it is Monaghan, that they will produce a very big performance, will revel in the space that Dublin allow, and will punish any lack of intensity that Dublin may have if some sense of complacency has set in on any level. This latter is the biggest and very real threat currently that we need to be wary of, and I mean in that no disrespect to the opposition. Time and time again it has been shown that any team, no matter how formidable the reputation, will come crashing down if the mental approach is not right, if the intensity is not at the required level, especially against a really good team, playing with serious hunger and belief. You only need to throw in an injury or two for an almost irreplaceable player (McCauley, Bernard Brogan, Rory O'Carroll?), a sending off/suspension, a contrary referee, and a day when things don't fall right for you. What Brendan Devenney would like more than anything, along with many others, is that Dublin take their eye off the ball that is actually there in play. That way Donegal would certainly be in a strong position, as would several other teams. You only have to look back a few years, when the re cent great Kerry team were at their peak, a Monaghan team with a fair amount of hype and expectation about them took that Kerry team to within a point on two occasions in quarter finals. Apart frm anything else Monaghan as a county set-up will have learned something from those recent experiences At this moment in time I would think Dublin are plus 10 points on Monaghan and in the region of at least between plus 5-8 points on Donegal. Of course that could change over the next few weeks if Donegal drive on another bit in terms of certain players finding extra form. Donegal will have too much for either Meath or Armagh. If Kildare beat Monaghan at the weekend the Dubs quarter final will be a cake walk. 10 points maybe but that's pre-supposing how both teams perform on the day. Sure Kerry were easily 10 points a better team than Monaghan in 2007 and probably also the other year they played them, and yet only won by a point. Doesn't matter much that we're also talking about Monaghan (almost certainly) here, rather that it's all on the day in knockout, especially quarter finals
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Jul 29, 2014 11:22:14 GMT
Kildare will certainly put it up to Monaghan on Saturday. Monaghan depend on 3/4 key players and if they are adequately marshalled by Kildare then Kildare have a right chance. They aren't as bad as they showed against Meath and have plenty of talented forwards. The main issue for both teams is that Dublin are miles ahead of both. Whoever wins on Saturday will be in for a hiding in the quarter final. Dublin's pace is frightening. I watched them devour Meath last Sunday week and their professionalism in the way they did their job was admirable. Rashers, you are talking up Monaghan as being a good team! They are a good way off the top two, Dublin and Mayo. Dublin's discipline has been excellent their record speaks for itself in terms of black cards etc, although Mc Auley has been sailing very close to the wind in a number of games this year.
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Post by glengael on Jul 31, 2014 9:44:10 GMT
Any thoughts on the weekend qualifiers?
I'm going with Monaghan and Armagh. Which will probably jinx both of them!
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Post by Jigz84 on Jul 31, 2014 11:13:30 GMT
Two hard games to call. A hesitant vote to Kildare and Armagh. Monaghan don't impress me and Meath won't have the stomach for a physical Armagh, which is an odd thing to say about any Meath team.
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Post by seamo on Jul 31, 2014 13:00:21 GMT
I predict a brawl before the Armagh game!!
And Monaghan to beat Kildare.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Jul 31, 2014 13:47:08 GMT
I predict a brawl before the Armagh game!! That's usually the case with us, if someone has ate all the ham sandwiches! I fear a Meath backlash, but hopefully we can do it. A QF appearance would be a productive year, given our early season form.
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Post by givehimaball on Jul 31, 2014 14:08:51 GMT
Monaghan and Armagh to progress for me - the Ulster sides seem to me to be in better form.
Find it hard to give Kildare much of a chance given how they scraped past Clare by the minimum.
Armagh look to me to be in better form and look to have recovered from a disappointing league campaign.
Dublin didnt even have to hit the high notes and they still blew Meath away.
Mayo if they play well will beat Cork by 10 points and if they play badly will beat them by 5
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 31, 2014 16:29:13 GMT
Meath are a very poor side. Armagh should beat them handily.
Also Monaghan to prevail.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Jul 31, 2014 20:47:32 GMT
Kildare have struggled so far, but I think Monaghan are over-hyped. Without McManus they struggle for scores. Word is that him and Kieran Hughes are struggling with injury.
I think Kildares familiarity with Croke Park might shade it for them. Monaghan haven't won a c'ship game there is 80 years apparently.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 2, 2014 23:12:21 GMT
Armagh were clearly better than Meath who were awful apart from a bit of a flurry before half time. Didn't see Armagh and Monaghan but it seems Monaghan were lucky to force it to extra time and they won it handy enough in extra time. Emmet Bolton sent off which was controversial on the radio anyway.
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