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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 2, 2014 22:22:24 GMT
Also, the pitch looked poor in that the ball hardly bounced properly all through the game.
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Post by athletics on Mar 2, 2014 22:32:55 GMT
Paul Geaney did not travel today somebody very sick belong to him. Anybody know when Bryan will be back playing?
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Post by tpo on Mar 2, 2014 22:45:35 GMT
Was at the game and not too disheartened. The goal a the start was a killer as we played with a strong breeze in 1st half. Aidan was poor and Mark looked like it was his 1st game of the year.(still think he is a full back line man) We would have needed a 5or 6 point lead at HT Fionn played well We played well enough in 2nd half a great save from there keeper and 2 players collide when 2 and 1 towards the end
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Post by southward on Mar 2, 2014 23:32:23 GMT
When it's not going for you, it just won't go for you. Kerry were well in this game for all but the last 5 minutes, just didn't get the breaks again. The goal on the stroke of halftime was a sickener and against the run of play. Add in Casey's effort off the bar and Barry John's saved effort and it could have been very different. 3 points down late n the game and we hit 3 bad wides on the trot. Very impressed by O'Brien today and against the Dubs - game as anything. Murphy was excellent too. Would have to agree with the concerns about fitness but we surely have deserved better than no points from our efforts to date.
Spare a thought for Kildare; scored 1-21 in March and still lost. Great to see Colm O'Neill back with 2 great points from 2 kicks (probably won't be saying that in a few weeks but still..)
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Post by keepitsimple on Mar 3, 2014 0:23:03 GMT
While I agree that Kerry faded badly in the second half , I think a lot of pundits on this forum and also some of our "experts" on radio kerry (billy o shea and weeshie fogarty in particular)are getting totally carried away with talk of Kerrys "lack of fitness". Kerry are building towards championship like they have always done, they do not posess footballers as good as we have had over the last decade, thats a fact and that really is the reason why we are losing games in the league. If Kerry were flying out of the traps at this stage it would be a cardinal sin for later in the year, Eamon Fitzmaurice and Cian O Neill know what they are doing, most people that are commenting dont know the science behind physical conditionong , these guys do, give them a chance , judge them come championship time
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 3, 2014 2:49:54 GMT
here here keepitsimple
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Post by monmornqback123 on Mar 3, 2014 4:06:45 GMT
Much despondency and complaining here in todays posts not totally merited at all losing games is very healthy for us in that we are forced to analyse in great detail where we can improve. The Spot light is now on every move to find and edge to find a better way of setting up to find the best 15 an then the best 25 . Now were are forced to dig and find and to be ruthless and daring to get a stronger Squad . Surely this is good for us, this is going to take us closer to where we need to be come summer. We could easily have won the last three games if some of those point blank goal chances were taken Yes with a bit of luck we could have won and we would have been fooling ourselves into serious complacency. Now When did kerry players forget how to finish for goals when straight through ,so now we have lost our touch for scoring goal s when on a plate and we dont even attempt long range points ?? Can we get back to basics and do some ball work in front of goals on the training ground. ? It does not look like goal scoring is being worked on at all . Why are our wing backs and midfield afraid to pull the trigger and chip in with Scores ??why are they all playing so stiff like they are not allowed to score or try to score it obvious that they are not being encouraged to score at the training ground. We need a full back and we need a center back that can hold their position and play Zone in these slots If that means more numbers back to cover the roaming center forward or full forward so be it but seriously stay strong down the middle . Is there any club fullback s or center back s around kerry that we are overlooking ?? Is there any more players left that like to play full back and are happy to do so ? How would Brendan Guiney from Emmets anyone?
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Post by wayupnorth on Mar 3, 2014 8:19:54 GMT
OK so we are still "ahead of the curve" compared to last year. No points yet but well in contention to the end in all games so far. This time last year we had one game we could have won and two when we were beaten out the door. This year we had two games we could have won and one we should have won. Progress of sorts for the glass half full brigade. But on the other hand, we are still pointless after 3 games and Division 1 is needed for bringing on young inexperienced players so we must move up a gear from here on. I have been at all 3 matches so far and seen much to be hopeful about in the longer term but now it is the short term that bothers me. I don't want to travel back North next weekend after another loss so Eamon and Co I know you're doing your best but please make an extra special effort for the likes of me!
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Post by glengael on Mar 3, 2014 10:06:22 GMT
I echo a lot of what I have read on here already. Mahony looks to be finished at this level or at least as a definite starter. Taking the ball into contact needlessly and losing it half the time. Mayo were cantering down the middle in the first half and he was left for dead. What the hell are Eamonn and the management team looking at in training if they put him out as the best option for number 6 today. Also on the management team, we don't seem to have any idea or a pattern to play to. We knew mayo would run hard at us and we had nothing to counter it. No system at all has been in evidence since Eamonn,s appointment. This carry on of thinking we can out score team will have to stop as well. We might do with the Gooch on board but without him we need to base our tactics on having a solid defence. Our half forward line as a unit were poor today. The players all played well in patches but as a unit were not at the races. Why the hell is our most dangerous forward in JOD playing about 50 yards from goal. I was impressed with O'Brien and cox to a lesser extent. Murphy in the corner looks a god prospect. I have given out about Kealy enough on these pages before but surely it's time to give some one else a run in the team. We were destroyed for breaks when the game got tight near the end. Also thought the ref was very poor and was very inconsistent in his application of the Black card rule. And on one final note, I don't understand the hype about Cian O'Neill. once again today with 15 mins to go we were dead on our feet. Same as in the championship last year. Also he is only the fitness coach why is he even on the line. Having seen the Derry game in person and yesterdays on tv , I agree with the above. It doesn't look like we have any plan at this stage and if we have, no-one has bothered to tell the panel what it is. We are struggling to tread water at this stage and the gap that has opened between us and the likes of Mayo was painfully obvious yesterday. Having lived through the last barren spell, this has all the makings of being just as prolonged. Last year's September heroics were an aberration and maybe too much weight has been attached to it. If there is serious progress to be made for Kerry football this year, we'd need to be making it at underage level.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 10:36:29 GMT
While I agree that Kerry faded badly in the second half , I think a lot of pundits on this forum and also some of our "experts" on radio kerry (billy o shea and weeshie fogarty in particular)are getting totally carried away with talk of Kerrys "lack of fitness". Kerry are building towards championship like they have always done, they do not posess footballers as good as we have had over the last decade, thats a fact and that really is the reason why we are losing games in the league. If Kerry were flying out of the traps at this stage it would be a cardinal sin for later in the year, Eamon Fitzmaurice and Cian O Neill know what they are doing, most people that are commenting dont know the science behind physical conditionong , these guys do, give them a chance , judge them come championship time Best post I've seen in a while. Spot on. Kerry were better than Mayo prior to when they faded which was probably around the 50 minutes mark. Cian O Neill and Eamonn are obviosuly building twards the championship, when have we ever done any deiffernetly, it's been a key to our suceess for so many years, out ability to peak at the right time of the year. I would be quite heartened by a lot of what I saw yesterday. Stephen O Brien looks like a real classsy forward, Cox did quite well too.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Mar 3, 2014 10:42:33 GMT
To be honest I didn't realise that Cian O'Neill was a selector and im more than shocked that he is. As far as i can ascertain his background in in sports science and fitness. I do't see how that qualifies him to be a slector n the team unless Eamonn has bought massively into sport science. O'Neill came to us by way of the Tipp hurlers via a physical fitness role with the Mayo seniors.
People say its only the league etc and we're training for championship..Are the other teams not training for the championship as well? Dublin, Mayo, Derry all finished a lot stronger than us in our games this year. I'm sure they are gearing towards championship as well. We had a poor year last year saved by one great performance against Dublin which I need to remind people that we lost.
We were terrible for most of the league bar a star turn for 35 mins in Omagh and then we collapsed; faded terribly again against cork in Munster; were woeful against Cavan in Croke park, and put in a massive performance against the dubs but, faded again.
I know players were younger etc but, we never seemed to have a problem form a fitness point of view when Pat Flanagan was there, fair enough we switched off at times but, eg against cork in the drawn semi in 08 but we never lacked for fitness.
And in the team that won the all ireland 04 in flanagans first year with the squad we had a few that were pushing on, Kirby,O'Cinneide, Hassett, Crowley were all there in the final.
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Post by watchdog on Mar 3, 2014 10:44:10 GMT
first thing to do is change the selectors ,try and get Ambrose Donovan on board as he seems to be well clued in to what is happening,I said 4 weeks ago that this full back line will ship8 goals in a big game ,who in there right mind would pick Aidan o Mahony at no 6 at this stage of his career ? play him full back or else the sideline,playing Mark at wing back on his first start of the year with his advancing years ,Why wasn't Aidan brought to full back after 20mins ? Enright will never make it at c/back.Griffin will never make it at fullback unfortunately .against Tyrone try ,Mark. A Mahony , Fitzgerald. Griffin at no 6
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Post by buck02 on Mar 3, 2014 11:26:35 GMT
To be honest I didn't realise that Cian O'Neill was a selector and im more than shocked that he is. As far as i can ascertain his background in in sports science and fitness. I do't see how that qualifies him to be a slector n the team unless Eamonn has bought massively into sport science. O'Neill came to us by way of the Tipp hurlers via a physical fitness role with the Mayo seniors. People say its only the league etc and we're training for championship..Are the other teams not training for the championship as well? Dublin, Mayo, Derry all finished a lot stronger than us in our games this year. I'm sure they are gearing towards championship as well. We had a poor year last year saved by one great performance against Dublin which I need to remind people that we lost. We were terrible for most of the league bar a star turn for 35 mins in Omagh and then we collapsed; faded terribly again against cork in Munster; were woeful against Cavan in Croke park, and put in a massive performance against the dubs but, faded again. I know players were younger etc but, we never seemed to have a problem form a fitness point of view when Pat Flanagan was there, fair enough we switched off at times but, eg against cork in the drawn semi in 08 but we never lacked for fitness. And in the team that won the all ireland 04 in flanagans first year with the squad we had a few that were pushing on, Kirby,O'Cinneide, Hassett, Crowley were all there in the final. You didnt realise Cian O Neill was a selector? He has been a selector of the Kerry team since October 2012. What might not have been apparent on TV was that there was a very strong wind blowing directly into the goals Mayo played into in the 2nd half. Despite this, Kerry had plenty of chances in that barren scoreless period of the 2nd half to keep the scoreboard ticking over - BJK, Cox, Fionn, Casey, James O Donoghue amongst others all missed straightforward chances. Nothing to to with fitness and anybody who actually goes to the games, rather than listen to what Ambrose O Donovan and Billy O Shea has to say could see that. The Omagh game last year was referenced about this too - Kerry were 6 days back from a training camp, there was a storm with Tyrone in the 2nd half that day also. I wouldnt be too downhearted about the display yesterday. What I think the worrying thing is that we struggle to win tight games. We could easily have 6 points in the League this morning. Instead we have zero. This is probably down to the lack of leadership on the field and also perhaps down to lack of experience on the line. I must also mention the referee yesterday. The pick-up against Griffin looked very harsh, the foul against Crowley was the worst decisions I've seen since September 2011. 3 technical fouls against young Kerry backs led directly to 0-3 yesterday (and you could argue 1-3 with the second goal coming straight from the kickout after the pick-up point). We saw something similar in Croke Park against Dublin last year - it needs to be addressed.
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Post by lár na páirce on Mar 3, 2014 12:00:11 GMT
Bitterly dissapointed leaving Castlebar yesterday,3 League games in now and we should of won all 3...No heart or fight in the Kerry lads yesterday.
Kealy - Could do very little about the goals and pitched in with his few routine bad kickouts - Change Needed
Full Back Line - Another tidy display from Paul Murphy,Griffin did OK at Full Back and Enright had another tough day at the office - Need a change at No.4
Half Back Line - Marc looked very unfit not surprising as he barely has a week of training under his belt,It was heartbreaking watching O'Mahoney try to do the things he used to but he just can't,Crowley was good as usual
Midfield - Moran did OK,Maher was quiet
Half Forward - Donnacha i thought played his usual grafting game,James OD at No.11 was a mental move and i think Daithi Casey did enough to hold onto a jersey for the next day
Full Forward - Stephen O Brien needs to be played in the corner has good potential,Cox i was very impressed with,Won most ball that came his way,BJK had a good 40 mins or so but faded
SUBS - Fionn Fitz is a leader on the field and will be paramount to any success we have in the future,Pa Kilkenny looked comfortable,Id like him to get the start v Tyrone,Mikey Geaney worked away hard,Jack Sherwood did nothing,Johnny Buckley did less,Maguire looked comfortable
Sideline - Lost the game again , Whoever though Aidan O Mahoney could play at No.6 is banana's,Aidan is a full back and will probably be back up for Mark Griffin this year encase of Black Cards,Injury etc..
Would of left Marc on possibly in the half forward line,His reading of the game would of been vital in the last 10 mins,His loss of pace might mean he will need to play alot more football up there
Couldnt figure out why Donnacha,Casey or Crowley were subbed,Barry John was out on his feet up in the forwards,Buckley needed to be put in the middle where he could get involved,He found it too easy to hide out on the wing
Finally if Fitzmaurice wants to watch games from the stand thats his prerogative,But why does he need to have his whole management team there with him..Sheehy,Murphy and O'Neill all in the stands so the messages to the players is coming from the Maor Uisce..That really is inexcusable..They need to have presence on the line
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Post by seamo on Mar 3, 2014 12:12:32 GMT
Much despondency and complaining here in todays posts not totally merited at all losing games is very healthy for us in that we are forced to analyse in great detail where we can improve. The Spot light is now on every move to find and edge to find a better way of setting up to find the best 15 an then the best 25 . Now were are forced to dig and find and to be ruthless and daring to get a stronger Squad . Surely this is good for us, this is going to take us closer to where we need to be come summer. We could easily have won the last three games if some of those point blank goal chances were taken Yes with a bit of luck we could have won and we would have been fooling ourselves into serious complacency. Now When did kerry players forget how to finish for goals when straight through ,so now we have lost our touch for scoring goal s when on a plate and we dont even attempt long range points ?? Can we get back to basics and do some ball work in front of goals on the training ground. ? It does not look like goal scoring is being worked on at all . Why are our wing backs and midfield afraid to pull the trigger and chip in with Scores ??why are they all playing so stiff like they are not allowed to score or try to score it obvious that they are not being encouraged to score at the training ground. We need a full back and we need a center back that can hold their position and play Zone in these slots If that means more numbers back to cover the roaming center forward or full forward so be it but seriously stay strong down the middle . Is there any club fullback s or center back s around kerry that we are overlooking ?? Is there any more players left that like to play full back and are happy to do so ? How would Brendan Guiney from Emmets anyone? The 2nd half of your comment are questions which Eamon and co should be asking themselves, I presume your saying? Those are all questions which should have at the very latest been asked last October/Novemebr when Eamon and co. would have started planning for this year. The issue is that the same problems/issues keep arising, namely the apparent lack of a defensive strategy, and a goalkeeper who has shown no sign of improvement on his kickouts/general kickout strategy. I have no issue with Eamon, he is a young manager with a very tough job ahead of him so he has my patience. I just wonder what Cian O Neill is contributing given that he came with and still has this amazing reputation. I had my doubts about him last year but gave him the benefit of the doubt; it's time we saw some bang for our buck from him.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Mar 3, 2014 12:14:20 GMT
As regards Cian O Neill, the man is an absolute professional and is excellent at what he does. Far too much blame is being laid at his table for the second half fade outs. Yesterday, Mayo had strong experienced players to bring on, that, in my opinion, is why they pushed on and won. Same against Dublin in Croke Park. I can't comment on the Derry game as I wasn't there. We have a threadbare panel in terms of blue chip players. We were without Lyne, Darran, Declan, Star, Sheehan yesterday and it was Marc Se's first game in ages.
Regarding his credentials, Cian has played club football in Kildare and has won county championships with Moorefield. He knows his football. He also knows that kerry need to build towards July and championship. Whether we win or lose along the way is quickly forgotten come summertime.
With a bit of luck, might have got something out of yesterday's game. The goals were a killer but for 33mins yesterday, we outplayed mayo, our tackling was excellent and we moved the ball well. Even in the second half, had we taken our chances, we would have given Mayo plenty to think about. However, the team with the stronger panel won. Kerry did a lot of good things, tired legs and inexperience cost us in the end.
If we manage to get 3/4 players out of this campaign, win one home game and beat Kildare and Westmeath away, I'm sure most kerry folk will be more than happy. That's very doable, in my opinion.
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Post by seamo on Mar 3, 2014 12:20:52 GMT
As regards Cian O Neill, the man is an absolute professional and is excellent at what he does. Far too much blame is being laid at his table for the second half fade outs. Yesterday, Mayo had strong experienced players to bring on, that, in my opinion, is why they pushed on and won. Same against Dublin in Croke Park. I can't comment on the Derry game as I wasn't there. We have a threadbare panel in terms of blue chip players. We were without Lyne, Darran, Declan, Star, Sheehan yesterday and it was Marc Se's first game in ages. Regarding his credentials, Cian has played club football in Kildare and has won county championships with Moorefield. He knows his football. He also knows that kerry need to build towards July and championship. Whether we win or lose along the way is quickly forgotten come summertime. With a bit of luck, might have got something out of yesterday's game. The goals were a killer but for 33mins yesterday, we outplayed mayo, our tackling was excellent and we moved the ball well. Even in the second half, had we taken our chances, we would have given Mayo plenty to think about. However, the team with the stronger panel won. Kerry did a lot of good things, tired legs and inexperience cost us in the end. If we manage to get 3/4 players out of this campaign, win one home game and beat Kildare and Westmeath away, I'm sure most kerry folk will be more than happy. That's very doable, in my opinion. Your right that is doable. And 3/4 players would be excellent. Between murphy, O Brien and BJK we may well do that, along with tthe progression of Moran, Lyne, Fitzgerald etc. But alot of people here procliamed Steven Cluxton to be a footballing god after last year and th eforum is full of articles relating to kickouts.....so I don't see why we can't expect our own goalkeeper/management to bring some sort of respectability to this area of our game.
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Post by keane on Mar 3, 2014 13:09:54 GMT
There's definitely a problem with the kickout routines. That's squarely at Kealy and Murphy's door.
The damage was done during around 15 minutes in the middle of the second half when we got absolutely destroyed at midfield and couldn't find one of our own players on restarts. Fitness I really don't think is the issue as we came back again afterwards but failed to convert the several decent chances we created.
I've said it before, but how our tactical approach falls apart compared to the other good teams is plain as day to see. Again in the second half yesterday you can see the Mayo players screaming at each other to get into position etc. - including the subs who had come on - while our subs all looked like they were playing to impress in their own right, taking the ball into contact, taking stupid shots with the pass on etc.
Other teams subs come in and slot into the system in place, our subs seem to come on and do their own thing, whether that's because they're not well drilled enough in what the first 15 are trying to do or down to fellows being greedy and looking to grab a place for themselves I don't know.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 3, 2014 13:11:04 GMT
A good learning experience for the younger players, some playing well others with something to learn about playing county football at this level. Over all a positive display from the team with some negatives but that is par for the course when a team is largely experimental and on trial.
It is not realistic to expect that an experimental team would be up to the required fitness level of intercounty football to sustain 70 minute efforts, think about it, how could they be? They are losing close games because the teams beating them have better and more experience players on the pitch and from the bench, cue Dublin and Mayo, with the exception of Derry.
Events at Newbridge yesterday could potentially have a huge bearing on who goes down, Westmeath will finish bottom with most likely one from Kildare and Kerry joining them. Kildare on two points with a minus score difference after playing some great football, are in bungee jump territory now with a trip to Croker and the visit of Kerry to Newbridge. Kerry's big game is Tyrone next weekend in Killarney, win that and two wins on the road in Leinster will leave them with a home game against Cork to make the play offs, or at worst to avoid relegation if they claim four points from the next six. In the relegation battle beating Westmeath and Kildare are the important ones, taking against the head into consideration.
Kerry played some really good ball yesterday, faded in the middle third late in the game, freshness at midfield will a requirement going forward in to the championship. Peter Crowley, Fionn Fitz and David Moran are all positives, with a few more knocking on the door and taking a peek inside. A big few weeks coming up.
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Post by seamus on Mar 3, 2014 14:27:23 GMT
Separate to the age profile, surely the smallest, lightest team Kerry have ever sent out to bat? The u21 and minor squads also look devoid of physical presence.
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Post by keane on Mar 3, 2014 15:22:05 GMT
Separate to the age profile, surely the smallest, lightest team Kerry have ever sent out to bat? The u21 and minor squads also look devoid of physical presence. Were we really much smaller than Mayo? The likes of Higgins, McHale, McLoughlin, Gibbons, Doherty, Gallagher, Conroy even Freeman - they're not tiny for their positions or anything but it's not exactly a team of Michael Murphys either.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Mar 3, 2014 15:23:34 GMT
Separate to the age profile, surely the smallest, lightest team Kerry have ever sent out to bat? The u21 and minor squads also look devoid of physical presence. Were we really much smaller than Mayo? The likes of Higgins, McHale, McLoughlin, Gibbons, Doherty, Gallagher, Conroy even Freeman - they're not tiny for their positions or anything but it's not exactly a team of Michael Murphys either. We lack explosive power- football is becoming similar to rugby league in the way it is played and we dont have guys who can carry the ball at pace and break tackles.
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Post by keane on Mar 3, 2014 15:33:11 GMT
We lack explosive power- football is becoming similar to rugby league in the way it is played and we dont have guys who can carry the ball at pace and break tackles. We certainly don't break from the half back line anywhere near as effectively as Mayo and Dublin do - even Cork showed signs that they've been working on this on Friday night - but again I think it's bad tactics rather than physical issues. No reason Peter Crowley shouldn't be able to burst forward the way Keegan and Boyle do, ditto Marc and Fionn even if they're smaller. The rugby league thing is all about well timed runs forward from deep and creating overlaps and overloads on the opposition defence - you don't have to be a brick wall to run forward into space.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Mar 3, 2014 15:38:23 GMT
We lack explosive power- football is becoming similar to rugby league in the way it is played and we dont have guys who can carry the ball at pace and break tackles. We certainly don't break from the half back line anywhere near as effectively as Mayo and Dublin do - even Cork showed signs that they've been working on this on Friday night - but again I think it's bad tactics rather than physical issues. No reason Peter Crowley shouldn't be able to burst forward the way Keegan and Boyle do, ditto Marc and Fionn even if they're smaller. The rugby league thing is all about well timed runs forward from deep and creating overlaps and overloads on the opposition defence - you don't have to be a brick wall to run forward into space. I agree with you that it's not about being massive but we seem to lack leg strength- the ability to power past someone which is down to physical issues. I do think though, as I said earlier in the thread, that tactics and mental issues are more of a worry for this team
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 15:51:30 GMT
Were we really much smaller than Mayo? The likes of Higgins, McHale, McLoughlin, Gibbons, Doherty, Gallagher, Conroy even Freeman - they're not tiny for their positions or anything but it's not exactly a team of Michael Murphys either. We lack explosive power- football is becoming similar to rugby league in the way it is played and we dont have guys who can carry the ball at pace and break tackles. Yea this is very true, teams like Dublin,mayo,cork seem to get a lot of cheap scores by running at us and breaking the first tackle. We don;t seem to be able to get those types of scores at all, our scores tend to nearly always come from ball kicked into forwards we don't seem to get anything from running directly at opposition from deep.
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Post by ataboy on Mar 3, 2014 18:08:11 GMT
Bitterly dissapointed leaving Castlebar yesterday,3 League games in now and we should of won all 3...No heart or fight in the Kerry lads yesterday. Kealy - Could do very little about the goals and pitched in with his few routine bad kickouts - Change Needed Full Back Line - Another tidy display from Paul Murphy,Griffin did OK at Full Back and Enright had another tough day at the office - Need a change at No.4 Half Back Line - Marc looked very unfit not surprising as he barely has a week of training under his belt,It was heartbreaking watching O'Mahoney try to do the things he used to but he just can't,Crowley was good as usual Midfield - Moran did OK,Maher was quiet Half Forward - Donnacha i thought played his usual grafting game,James OD at No.11 was a mental move and i think Daithi Casey did enough to hold onto a jersey for the next day Full Forward - Stephen O Brien needs to be played in the corner has good potential,Cox i was very impressed with,Won most ball that came his way,BJK had a good 40 mins or so but faded SUBS - Fionn Fitz is a leader on the field and will be paramount to any success we have in the future,Pa Kilkenny looked comfortable,Id like him to get the start v Tyrone,Mikey Geaney worked away hard,Jack Sherwood did nothing,Johnny Buckley did less,Maguire looked comfortable Sideline - Lost the game again , Whoever though Aidan O Mahoney could play at No.6 is banana's,Aidan is a full back and will probably be back up for Mark Griffin this year encase of Black Cards,Injury etc.. Would of left Marc on possibly in the half forward line,His reading of the game would of been vital in the last 10 mins,His loss of pace might mean he will need to play alot more football up there Couldnt figure out why Donnacha,Casey or Crowley were subbed,Barry John was out on his feet up in the forwards,Buckley needed to be put in the middle where he could get involved,He found it too easy to hide out on the wing Finally if Fitzmaurice wants to watch games from the stand thats his prerogative,But why does he need to have his whole management team there with him..Sheehy,Murphy and O'Neill all in the stands so the messages to the players is coming from the Maor Uisce..That really is inexcusable..They need to have presence on the line Good analysis. Kealy's kick outs once again poor. Kelly should be given a chance. Paul Murphy very impressive once again. Think Griffin struggled a bit. Poorest game in a while. Overcarried the ball, picked it off the ground, got a black card. Wouldn't be worried though. Has been superb since he came in last year. Enright. Struggling once more. Not sure how he constantly starts. Pa Kilkenny or David Culhane need to get a run here. Enright will surely struggle to hold onto his place. Crowley - Excellent. Really standing up. Class act. Shouldn't have been taken off. O'Mahony - Falling to the ground a lot. Never going to do at 6. Back up for 3 at best. Marc - Looked off form. No surprises though, very rusty. Only back 2 weeks. Midfield - Ok. Moran more impressive. Maher I feel is very hit and miss. Thought he had really upped it a couple of years ago. Not so sure now. Stephen O'Brien - Excellent. Took his scores well. Will always be a goal threat with his pace. Casey - Quite enough. Keep with him though. Will be an option. The captaincy issue is madness though. Kerry need to change this strategy. No way should Casey be captain. Walsh - Usual self. James - Why play him so far from goal. Did well but way more effective closer to goal. Cox - Reasonably well for one of the new lads. Will take time, but he will be an option. Better anyway than O'Leary, Curtin, BJK. BJK - Lively at stages, faded then though. Should be doing more.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 3, 2014 19:39:51 GMT
To be honest I didn't realise that Cian O'Neill was a selector and im more than shocked that he is. As far as i can ascertain his background in in sports science and fitness. I do't see how that qualifies him to be a slector n the team unless Eamonn has bought massively into sport science. O'Neill came to us by way of the Tipp hurlers via a physical fitness role with the Mayo seniors. People say its only the league etc and we're training for championship..Are the other teams not training for the championship as well? Dublin, Mayo, Derry all finished a lot stronger than us in our games this year. I'm sure they are gearing towards championship as well. We had a poor year last year saved by one great performance against Dublin which I need to remind people that we lost. We were terrible for most of the league bar a star turn for 35 mins in Omagh and then we collapsed; faded terribly again against cork in Munster; were woeful against Cavan in Croke park, and put in a massive performance against the dubs but, faded again. I know players were younger etc but, we never seemed to have a problem form a fitness point of view when Pat Flanagan was there, fair enough we switched off at times but, eg against cork in the drawn semi in 08 but we never lacked for fitness. And in the team that won the all ireland 04 in flanagans first year with the squad we had a few that were pushing on, Kirby,O'Cinneide, Hassett, Crowley were all there in the final. Cian O'Neill did not have a fitness role with Mayo . He was a football coach and possibly a selector.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 3, 2014 21:27:36 GMT
Paul Geaney did not travel today somebody very sick belong to him. His mother passed away today, may she rest in peace.
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Post by southward on Mar 3, 2014 21:59:08 GMT
Fitzmaurice today highlighted the flaw in the back card rule whereby if the victim doesn't go down, it's not a black. That's why Andy Moran got away without one. It's also why Griffin shouldn't have got one and why Kerry may be appealing it (and it matters because 3 blacks in the year means a suspension). Fitzy speculates that we'll see a lot more lads hitting the deck as players become more clued into the rules. And of course he's right. Ultimately the new rules may engender more cynicism that they eradicate, albeit cynicism in a different form. Crazy that Moran didn't even get a yellow. Read more: kerrygaa.proboards.com/thread/5421/terrace-talk-radio-kerry?page=1#scrollTo=158008#ixzz2uwJ0uOq8
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Post by seamo on Mar 3, 2014 22:53:41 GMT
To be honest I didn't realise that Cian O'Neill was a selector and im more than shocked that he is. As far as i can ascertain his background in in sports science and fitness. I do't see how that qualifies him to be a slector n the team unless Eamonn has bought massively into sport science. O'Neill came to us by way of the Tipp hurlers via a physical fitness role with the Mayo seniors. People say its only the league etc and we're training for championship..Are the other teams not training for the championship as well? Dublin, Mayo, Derry all finished a lot stronger than us in our games this year. I'm sure they are gearing towards championship as well. We had a poor year last year saved by one great performance against Dublin which I need to remind people that we lost. We were terrible for most of the league bar a star turn for 35 mins in Omagh and then we collapsed; faded terribly again against cork in Munster; were woeful against Cavan in Croke park, and put in a massive performance against the dubs but, faded again. I know players were younger etc but, we never seemed to have a problem form a fitness point of view when Pat Flanagan was there, fair enough we switched off at times but, eg against cork in the drawn semi in 08 but we never lacked for fitness. And in the team that won the all ireland 04 in flanagans first year with the squad we had a few that were pushing on, Kirby,O'Cinneide, Hassett, Crowley were all there in the final. You didnt realise Cian O Neill was a selector? He has been a selector of the Kerry team since October 2012. What might not have been apparent on TV was that there was a very strong wind blowing directly into the goals Mayo played into in the 2nd half. Despite this, Kerry had plenty of chances in that barren scoreless period of the 2nd half to keep the scoreboard ticking over - BJK, Cox, Fionn, Casey, James O Donoghue amongst others all missed straightforward chances. Nothing to to with fitness and anybody who actually goes to the games, rather than listen to what Ambrose O Donovan and Billy O Shea has to say could see that. The Omagh game last year was referenced about this too - Kerry were 6 days back from a training camp, there was a storm with Tyrone in the 2nd half that day also. I wouldnt be too downhearted about the display yesterday. What I think the worrying thing is that we struggle to win tight games. We could easily have 6 points in the League this morning. Instead we have zero. This is probably down to the lack of leadership on the field and also perhaps down to lack of experience on the line. I must also mention the referee yesterday. The pick-up against Griffin looked very harsh, the foul against Crowley was the worst decisions I've seen since September 2011. 3 technical fouls against young Kerry backs led directly to 0-3 yesterday (and you could argue 1-3 with the second goal coming straight from the kickout after the pick-up point). We saw something similar in Croke Park against Dublin last year - it needs to be addressed. Can people stop using this has a an argument. It really is abysmal. We could easily be defending AI champs this year if Declan kicked that point and the ref blew up 1 minute early!!! But neither did, and we've still lost 3 games from 3 in the league and deservedly so. We may have played well in patches, but in none of the 3 games were we the better team you simply didn't have the rub of the green.
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