Sunday Indo / Bank of Irl team of last 15 yrs

[OnTheForty]

Sunday Indo / Bank of Ireland team of the last 15 years to mark BoI's 15 years sponsorship of the football c'ship.
This was picked last week before the Cork demolition.
My thoughts, Kerry have won 5 of the last 15 and only 2 Kerrymen? It loses all credibility without Gooch at CF.
Mortimer better than Marc or Tom Sull?? And Tomas has to be on.

John O'Leary
Kenneth Mortimer
Darren Fay
Seamus Moynihan
Paul Curran
Kieran McGeeney
Glenn Ryan
Dara O'Se
Anthony Tohill
Michael Donnellan
Trevor Giles
Graham Geraghty
Peter Canavan
Padraig Joyce
Maurice Fitzgerald

[kerryeye]

3 kerrymen actually Onthe40 but it still ridiculous.Gooch,tomas and maybe marc o se should be on that team

[ticketless]

there are 3 kerrymen. I'd have Gooch on for Joyce

[ardfertnarrie]

I generally don't read any of "Sir" Anthony's rags so I don't really care what it says. Still its a great team, but without the Gooch it loses all credibility.

Oh and there's 3 Kerrymen, not 2.

[ardfertnarrie]

Yes, and I'd have Tomas on for Curran.

[ticketless]

... and Michael Donnellan wouldn't get a look in....

[ardfertnarrie]

ticketless said:

... and Michael Donnellan wouldn't get a look in....

Absolutely not.

[animal]

This is the kind of thing that nobody really ever agrees on. By and large I agree with the team. Personally I would have Gooch there but you don't win them all eh? You'll find as many people vouching for the likes of Donnellan as you'll find giving out.
For me the only surprise inclusion was Mortimer. Wouldn't be getting worked up about it. I remember Breaking Ball (TV show from few years back) and they did a team of the 90's which had just Maurice and Seamus on it. You couldn't really have complained at the time. I'll try and dig that one out, I had it in an old email somewhere....

[austinstacksabu]

ardfertnarie said:

ticketless said:

... and Michael Donnellan wouldn't get a look in....

Absolutely not.

The Galway contingent in the GAA journalistic world will have been behind that one.

Michael Donnellan, gifted player that he is, now has a place on the best team of the past 15 years and the best moment in televised history!!

[animal]

animal said:

This is the kind of thing that nobody really ever agrees on. By and large I agree with the team. Personally I would have Gooch there but you don't win them all eh? You'll find as many people vouching for the likes of Donnellan as you'll find giving out.
For me the only surprise inclusion was Mortimer. Wouldn't be getting worked up about it. I remember Breaking Ball or Sideline Cut(TV show from few years back) and they did a team of the 90's which had just Maurice and Seamus on it. You couldn't really have complained at the time. I'll try and dig that one out, I had it in an old email somewhere....

Told ya I'd find it!!
Just out of interest and comparison, here are their teams of the 90's

The following are the teams of the decade (90's)

Hurling.
1.David Fitzgerald(Clare)
2.Willie O' Connor(Kilkenny)
3.Brian Lohan(Clare)
4.Martin Hanamy(Offaly)
5.Brian Whelehan(Offaly)
6.Seanie McMahon(Clare)
7.Liam Dunne(Wexford)
8.Ollie Baker(Clare)
9.Ciarán Carey(Limerick)
10.DJ Carey(Kilkenny)
11.Martin Storey(Wexford)
12.Jamesie O'Connor(Clare)
13.Pat Fox(Tipperary)
14.Declan Ryan(Tipperary)
15.John Troy(Offaly)


Football
1.John O' Leary(Dublin)
2.Kenneth Mortimer(Mayo)
3.Darren Fay(Meath)
4.Tony Scullion(Derry)
5.Séamus Moynihan(Kerry)
6.Henry Downey(Derry)
7.Martin O'Connell(Meath)
8.Anthony Tohill(Derry)
9.John McDermott(Meath)
10.Trevor Giles(Meath)
11.Greg Blaney(Down)
12.Jarlath Fallon(Galway)
13.Mickey Linden(Down)
14.Peter Canavan(Tyrone)
15.Maurice Fitzgerald(Kerry)

[homerj]

team could be alot better. as to how gooch aint in there, ill never know.

tis a wonder that jason sherlock, ciaran whelan, alan brogan, mark vaughan, mossy quinn, colman goggins, vinny murphy, peader andrews, ray cosgrove, darran mcgee, darran homan, bernard brogin and shane ryan didnt make it also?!!!

[austinstacksabu]

Gooch being omitted is a surprise, and perhaps the team should have been released this week.

Having said that, who would you drop for Gooch and why? Yes he has to go in somewhere, he is the greatest forward of the last 10 years, but where and for whom?

[animal]

austinstacksabu said:

Gooch being omitted is a surprise, and perhaps the team should have been released this week.

Having said that, who would you drop for Gooch and why? Yes he has to go in somewhere, he is the greatest forward of the last 10 years, but where and for whom?

You'd nearly have to shoehorn him on the 40. I'd find it hard to drop anyone on the inside line. Joyce if a gun was to my head.

[homerj]

donnellan?? was good for about 2 years in total and then was Sh**e for the rest of them. a total waste of a great talent that lad was in the finish. id put gooch in the corner and move out fitzie to the 40.

[Deleted]

Move Maurice to no 10. Gooch goes corner forward.

Reason why:
Gooch is one of the best players in the history of the game.

[austinstacksabu]

Would agree with you Kingdom.....and hopefully when the next sponsors do this again in 15 years Gooch will be first on the list and still playing :-)

[animal]

Bottom line is if the team had been selected this month Gooch would be in. That was never going to happen as BOI wanted to maximize the publicity in weeks leading up to the final.
Look these things are so subjective and it seems we're never happy, look at Jacko not making team of the millenium for example.
I think it would be interesting to think about players from other counties who didn't make it instead of complaining about our lads missing out. for example Declan Browne, Mickey Linden, SM Lockhart, Stevie McDonnell?. Not saying they should be on team but surely were not a million miles away. There have been some savage players in the last 15 years not just from Kerry.

[austinstacksabu]

For all the talk of Armagh and Tyrone, both teams only had one representative!!

Indeed only Meath also have thee representatives!

[falveyb2k]

John O Leary and Paul Curran are very lucky to be selected but then they are Dubs. Look at Tomas O Se, plays brilliant every year(footballer of the year in 04) and still he can't make it. It loses credibility when Geraghty gets on at wing forward where he played little football(Ja Fallon has to fit in here)

[Jo90]

Gooch is only 24 so wouldn't really be eligible. The only current players on it are well over 30.

The team practically picked itself with Mortimer at corner-back the only surprise.
Sean marty Lockhart, Anthony Lynch or Martin O'Connell should be ahead of him.

[homerj]

jaysus jo90, anthony lynch??come on man....

[narrie]

homerj said:

team could be alot better. as to how gooch aint in there, ill never know.

tis a wonder that jason sherlock, ciaran whelan, alan brogan, mark vaughan, mossy quinn, colman goggins, vinny murphy, peader andrews, ray cosgrove, darran mcgee, darran homan, bernard brogin and shane ryan didnt make it also?!!!

;D ;D

[Jo90]

homerj said:

jaysus jo90, anthony lynch??come on man....

Not saying he'd make the team but he'd better than Gardiner. Was very good in 99.

[Sons of Pitches]

Is Dara midfield? On one team here he is and the other one he ain't.

[ardfertnarrie]

dingis5 said:

Is Dara midfield? On one team here he is and the other one he ain't.

Yes he is, the other is the team of the 90's.

[Tackle Hard]

Dunno bout mortimer curran and joyce deservin to be there! gooch deserves to be there i tink!

[SteelFixer]

Yerra that team is a farce ! I would 'nt take any notice of it, especially considering it has got a sponsor, as they will be aiming for as wide a county representation as possible.

Ourselves and the Northern counties who together have won around 70% of the All- Ireland in this period get blackguarded completely. But then again Bank of Ireland does'nt operate in Northern Ireland and Kerry only represents a tiny fraction of their market.

[Walter Mitty]

ontheforty said:

Sunday Indo / Bank of Ireland team of the last 15 years to mark BoI's 15 years sponsorship of the football c'ship.
This was picked last week before the Cork demolition.
My thoughts, Kerry have won 5 of the last 15 and only 2 Kerrymen? It loses all credibility without Gooch at CF.
Mortimer better than Marc or Tom Sull?? And Tomas has to be on.

John O'Leary

Kenneth Mortimer
Darren Fay
Seamus Moynihan

Paul Curran
Kieran McGeeney
Glenn Ryan

Dara O'Se
Anthony Tohill

Michael Donnellan
Trevor Giles
Graham Geraghty

Peter Canavan
Padraig Joyce
Maurice Fitzgerald

1993 - 2007

3 kerry (7 Finals, 5 wins)
3 Meath (3 finals, 2 wins)
2 Dubs (2 final, 1 win)
2 Galway (3 finals, 2 wins)
1 tyrone (2 finals, 2 wins)
1 derry (1 final, 1 win)
1 Mayo (4 finals, 0 wins)
1 Armagh (2 finals, 1 win)
1 Kildare (1 final, 0 win)

Down only team who won an AI and got no representation.

Now if I was a statistition Id say there is something seriously skewed with this representation.

I have a major bone over 2 of the selections;

Paul Curran ahead of Tomas o Se and donnelan ahead of Gooch (throwing Fitzie out wing forward).

I also would also be dubious about Mortimars inclusion.

[kerrygold]

mickey linden,greg blaney were as good as anything else from that era if not better.

i always felt donnellan was over rated,there was only 4 or 5 good seasons in him.

tohil was a better wing forward than geraghty and mc dermot was just as good as tohil at midfield,again this looks like a team that was picked to go around rather than picking the best 15 from that era.

[scooter]

michael donnellan shud be no where near dat team...gooch shud be first on team sheet along with tomas