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Post by tralee58 on Jul 15, 2024 5:23:36 GMT
You have made a valid point. You should be looking forward to watching a great team perform to high level. I doubt Dublin said am looking forward to watching an individual player. David needs to be simply a great player in a great team. Kerry are an above average team, 2 years ago a very good team, last year a good team. The next step never reached. Just an opinion we all have them. Kerry will always aspire to be the best. Currently they are not.Dave remains one of best players in Ireland in an average team. We march on. Post 2022, bar a minority, most commentators on here, in the county, and further beyond, didn't think this was going to be a "dynasty" team, and unfortunately that has played out. Kerry will be there or thereabouts of course --- might again be the favourite at some point of the season, might win it, but it is very much hope rather than expectation. I don't think this "great" team is out there in the county. They're very good. Top three or four in the country next year, but not going to dominate. But I think they are doing their best and there were some heroics yesterday. Agree 👍
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Post by tralee58 on Jul 15, 2024 5:35:09 GMT
Yes. Kerry’s support is very poor. Even at finals we are usually out colored, out vocalled and out numbered. The team must sense this. Yesterday , for certain when the game was in the melting pot, the Armagh supporters helped the cause. Only ‘97 can I remember such color and noise from the Kerry Supporters. Yeah and that was our first time in a final for 11 years.Maybe some of our supporters have been spoiled. Interesting fact that 11 years ! Personally I appreciate the knowledge and experience of commentators on this site. Controversial thing to say but I think the semi final should be played at a neutral venue to both counties contesting. Cut cost down and guarantee full stadia. This would make Final day at Croker very special. Like FA Cup football in England (semi finals at Wembley now) due to money 💰 needed by GAA it won’t happen.
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Post by tralee58 on Jul 15, 2024 5:40:48 GMT
Been bugging me all day and still can't understand our fitness levels, to me it was the single defining contributing factor to the result. It's not we were going hard in the league, we couldn't live with Dublin in CP for example, I was sure we were aiming to build up for now. So shocked to see lads cramping, it's so rare now at the high end of the IC calendar. When Armagh saw this, I'd say they got huge oxygen from it If I recall correctly, its exactly how we were when Tyrone caught us..... I agree. Armagh looked Physically stronger and certainly were mentally (Kieran Donaghy effect ? ) Why is that ? Dublin lead the way over last 10 years in strength and fitness of course everyone is fit but they had that bit extra, just an observation.
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Post by tralee58 on Jul 15, 2024 5:52:24 GMT
Been bugging me all day and still can't understand our fitness levels, to me it was the single defining contributing factor to the result. It's not we were going hard in the league, we couldn't live with Dublin in CP for example, I was sure we were aiming to build up for now. So shocked to see lads cramping, it's so rare now at the high end of the IC calendar. When Armagh saw this, I'd say they got huge oxygen from it If I recall correctly, its exactly how we were when Tyrone caught us..... Agree there is something wrong, in my opinion many things right but that final bit is missing. Armagh looked physically stronger and their mental strength belief (Kieran Donaghy ?) was there.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 15, 2024 6:18:15 GMT
Yeah and that was our first time in a final for 11 years.Maybe some of our supporters have been spoiled. Interesting fact that 11 years ! Personally I appreciate the knowledge and experience of commentators on this site. Controversial thing to say but I think the semi final should be played at a neutral venue to both counties contesting. Cut cost down and guarantee full stadia. This would make Final day at Croker very special. Like FA Cup football in England (semi finals at Wembley now) due to money 💰 needed by GAA it won’t happen. Players want to play at Croke Park. The overall attendance at the semis was reasonable AFAIK.
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Post by Premier on Jul 15, 2024 6:55:30 GMT
Yeah and that was our first time in a final for 11 years.Maybe some of our supporters have been spoiled. Interesting fact that 11 years ! Personally I appreciate the knowledge and experience of commentators on this site. Controversial thing to say but I think the semi final should be played at a neutral venue to both counties contesting. Cut cost down and guarantee full stadia. This would make Final day at Croker very special. Like FA Cup football in England (semi finals at Wembley now) due to money 💰 needed by GAA it won’t happen. I find it hard to hear the excuses that Kerry people come up with for not going to games. I make them myself at times with regard to travel to Dublin and the expense but the reality is Kerry are not a good travelling fan base which is a terrible thing to say. People on about the big cost which is fair but coming from Donegal is not easy either. I know it was their first semi in 10 years but people from the end of Mayo were trekking to Dublin for every single game regardless of where it was on for about 8 years straight. That has to be what we compare ourselves too. When people from other counties say ‘oh Kerry are waiting for the final’ I actually find that embarrassing as a county. In the hurling semi, I was sickened by Kilkenny’s lack of support for a county who are only down the road from Dublin. Getting compared to them is a stain on us
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Post by taggert on Jul 15, 2024 8:15:42 GMT
Interesting fact that 11 years ! Personally I appreciate the knowledge and experience of commentators on this site. Controversial thing to say but I think the semi final should be played at a neutral venue to both counties contesting. Cut cost down and guarantee full stadia. This would make Final day at Croker very special. Like FA Cup football in England (semi finals at Wembley now) due to money 💰 needed by GAA it won’t happen. Players want to play at Croke Park. The overall attendance at the semis was reasonable AFAIK. There is nothing wrong with Croker for a semi final. All teams bar Kerry were well supported in the hurling and football semi finals. Its one game and besides not everyone who wants to go to the final - i.e. entire families - can get there anyway. If people want to find an excuse for something, they invariably will. Kerry supporters are the outlier and it wss pathetic to witness the paltry support on Saturday....embarrassing in fact.
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Post by taggert on Jul 15, 2024 8:18:03 GMT
Interesting fact that 11 years ! Personally I appreciate the knowledge and experience of commentators on this site. Controversial thing to say but I think the semi final should be played at a neutral venue to both counties contesting. Cut cost down and guarantee full stadia. This would make Final day at Croker very special. Like FA Cup football in England (semi finals at Wembley now) due to money 💰 needed by GAA it won’t happen. I find it hard to hear the excuses that Kerry people come up with for not going to games. I make them myself at times with regard to travel to Dublin and the expense but the reality is Kerry are not a good travelling fan base which is a terrible thing to say. People on about the big cost which is fair but coming from Donegal is not easy either. I know it was their first semi in 10 years but people from the end of Mayo were trekking to Dublin for every single game regardless of where it was on for about 8 years straight. That has to be what we compare ourselves too. When people from other counties say ‘oh Kerry are waiting for the final’ I actually find that embarrassing as a county. In the hurling semi, I was sickened by Kilkenny’s lack of support for a county who are only down the road from Dublin. Getting compared to them is a stain on us Kilkenny had comfortably more support than Kerry - not saying very much mind you.....!
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Post by thekingdom on Jul 15, 2024 8:20:18 GMT
I think we had been getting better going to croke park in recent years but this year was very bad. The two main factors were the quick turnaround and the type of football that is currently played. We are football snobs and we simply don't enjoy the current style. Not many do I suppose.
We have been bad for wearing our colours. I don't understand why supporters wear the blue jersey when we are playing Dublin. The Armagh supporters were a sea of orange.
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Post by The16thMan on Jul 15, 2024 8:25:20 GMT
I think we had been getting better going to croke park in recent years but this year was very bad. The two main factors were the quick turnaround and the type of football that is currently played. We are football snobs and we simply don't enjoy the current style. Not many do I suppose. We have been bad for wearing our colours. I don't understand why supporters wear the blue jersey when we are playing Dublin. The Armagh supporters were a sea of orange. Wasn't just Croke Park mind you, 7k at our Home game vs Monaghan... that spoke volumes. Fair enough it was as good as a dead rubber but you'd expect a bigger crowd at a County final. I think it will get worse next year, especially if Jack is to stay on as I sense people getting frustrated with the management.
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Post by mg72 on Jul 15, 2024 8:28:43 GMT
Thanks for clarifying that. It's all hearsay so. He said, she said, a trusted friend said........ And in my opinion, Gough was right to call Colm O'Rourke out for the language that he used on tv that day. I explained the tweet. I had brought that forward last year when likes were available for anyone to view. That is 100% true. If it wasn't it was very easy to prove me wrong at the time. I used that O'Rourke to show that he goes direct to the Head of RTÉ Sport and not to O'Rourke like a sane person would. I added that as proof he speaks to RTÉ direct and not to the pundits. I wasn't condoning Colm's comments and he was right to stand against it but he could have asked Colm privately to make a public apology for the language. No no do not pass go, straight to RTÉ Believe what you want. Anyone with OTB subscription and Examimer can check OTB interview the days after the Cork group game last year and the Seán Powter Irish Examiner podcast the week into the 2023 final. Check for yourselves. The lad took credit for Geaney knowing the rules. Jesus wept!!! I seriously can't be bothered.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 15, 2024 8:35:09 GMT
I think for people in my age group: that might be 35-45 - the same societal changes that sees fewer of us in the pub regularly also sees fewer of us off to a match on the weekend.
I was a season ticket holder for a few years but then needed money for weddings and mortgages... and now I am set up well I am not lightly fecking off for the day and leaving two young children at home.
Worse again it seems the elder of the two is Cork so I won't be able to even play that angle.
It'll a few year before I am back to the golf and to attending Kerry matches.
Ultimately- yes these are excuses. But they are also explanations.
Perhaps some innovation on behalf of the county board could help. Perhaps discounts for people who played county league. Better promotion of home games. Etc.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 15, 2024 9:10:27 GMT
I think for people in my age group: that might be 35-45 - the same societal changes that sees fewer of us in the pub regularly also sees fewer of us off to a match on the weekend. I was a season ticket holder for a few years but then needed money for weddings and mortgages... and now I am set up well I am not lightly fecking off for the day and leaving two young children at home. Worse again it seems the elder of the two is Cork so I won't be able to even play that angle. It'll a few year before I am back to the golf and to attending Kerry matches. Ultimately- yes these are excuses. But they are also explanations. Perhaps some innovation on behalf of the county board could help. Perhaps discounts for people who played county league. Better promotion of home games. Etc. To me you are the best contributor on this forum. My circumstances are identical but I travel from Meath and this year in particular I was heading away to games and either bringing my eldest 5 or leaving them with mam. Can't justify it anymore particularly when the games are on top of each other and the cost. I made a comment thar it's a novelty for certain counties travelling to Croke Park and I stand over that. Armagh,Donegal,Galway all starved of success. Mayo and Dublins numbers dropped way back this year.
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Post by tralee58 on Jul 15, 2024 9:17:47 GMT
We didn't take goal chances in some of the safer games when we were winning well. Fisting over etc. I nievely thought we were keeping our goal scoring powder dry for the big games but unfortunately that wasn't the case. Our converting goal chances and shot selection aren't good enough. Something that can surely be coached We scored 1-6 in an hour ( half time to final whistle. ) A score every 8.5 mins. Armagh defended well but that's not going to win a game in Croke park in July. Goal scoring in my opinion been big concern for long time why ? Perhaps over reliance on the point scoring of a few which is good for sure but when do you think confidently like dubs that they will rattle the net. I can’t recall DC scoring in later Sam stages, apparently he did at Miinor level. I know he a talent 100% but for me Kerry’s lack of goalscoring ability is a problem at highest level
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Post by kerryblueboy on Jul 15, 2024 9:21:35 GMT
Having watched the game again and the Sunday game last night our fitness again was a major factor we lost Jason gavin and especially Diarmuid from midfield who was having a very good game again in a short space of time I wonder whether this folly of having Jason sprinting forward all the time and popping up in the full forward line is costing us from his defensive duties same with tom it was after kicking a wife at a critical time off his weaker leg that Jason went down the 3 of these guys were massive losses and contributed hugely to our defeat
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 15, 2024 9:23:04 GMT
Having watched the game again and the Sunday game last night our fitness again was a major factor we lost Jason gavin and especially Diarmuid from midfield who was having a very good game again in a short space of time I wonder whether this folly of having Jason sprinting forward all the time and popping up in the full forward line is costing us from his defensive duties same with tom it was after kicking a wife at a critical time off his weaker leg that Jason went down the 3 of these guys were massive losses and contributed hugely to our defeat Kicking a wife is unforgivable (even if it was his weaker leg).
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Post by pony on Jul 15, 2024 9:25:42 GMT
I think for people in my age group: that might be 35-45 - the same societal changes that sees fewer of us in the pub regularly also sees fewer of us off to a match on the weekend. I was a season ticket holder for a few years but then needed money for weddings and mortgages... and now I am set up well I am not lightly fecking off for the day and leaving two young children at home. Worse again it seems the elder of the two is Cork so I won't be able to even play that angle. It'll a few year before I am back to the golf and to attending Kerry matches. Ultimately- yes these are excuses. But they are also explanations. Perhaps some innovation on behalf of the county board could help. Perhaps discounts for people who played county league. Better promotion of home games. Etc. To me you are the best contributor on this forum. My circumstances are identical but I travel from Meath and this year in particular I was heading away to games and either bringing my eldest 5 or leaving them with mam. Can't justify it anymore particularly when the games are on top of each other and the cost. I made a comment thar it's a novelty for certain counties travelling to Croke Park and I stand over that. Armagh,Donegal,Galway all starved of success. Mayo and Dublins numbers dropped way back this year. To be fair to ye, all very fair reasons, I might add in, games coming thick and fast you could have multiple trips coming out of one months pay, not ideal for many, and the GAA season is smack bang in the middle of holiday season, another massive outlay for families budget. But (there's always a but), the difference in energy that Armagh got from their goal compared to ours was immense. It felt like a Dublin goal such was the noise and support in comparison, and from then on it didn't stop, it truly felt like it was an "away" game from then on, the meagre Kerry crowed wilted along with our challenge, unfortunately, it did play a part IMO.
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Post by greatpoint on Jul 15, 2024 9:28:59 GMT
I think for people in my age group: that might be 35-45 - the same societal changes that sees fewer of us in the pub regularly also sees fewer of us off to a match on the weekend. I was a season ticket holder for a few years but then needed money for weddings and mortgages... and now I am set up well I am not lightly fecking off for the day and leaving two young children at home. Worse again it seems the elder of the two is Cork so I won't be able to even play that angle. It'll a few year before I am back to the golf and to attending Kerry matches. Ultimately- yes these are excuses. But they are also explanations. Perhaps some innovation on behalf of the county board could help. Perhaps discounts for people who played county league. Better promotion of home games. Etc. Armagh are one of the few county boards that outsource their social media marketing. People give out about backroom costs but if you ask me it’s money very well spent. If you look at their social presence in comparison to other counties there’s a world of difference in terms of engagement.
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Post by pony on Jul 15, 2024 9:41:51 GMT
Having watched the game again and the Sunday game last night our fitness again was a major factor we lost Jason gavin and especially Diarmuid from midfield who was having a very good game again in a short space of time I wonder whether this folly of having Jason sprinting forward all the time and popping up in the full forward line is costing us from his defensive duties same with tom it was after kicking a wife at a critical time off his weaker leg that Jason went down the 3 of these guys were massive losses and contributed hugely to our defeat Yes, we seem to have players doing a lot of unnecessary running, forwards in the full back line, backs in the full forward line, perhaps someone more tactically savvy than me can explain the point of this, when Dylan Geaney took on that last shot there was a good run made out from full forward for a pass, it was Jason Foley! This is brave by him and hats off, but for me, this should be Dylan himself, of David or Seanie, are they not just getting in the way of our natural scorers? I feel the fitness thing can be put down to three things. 1. Above mentioned pointless running by players 2. I think going for 3 finals in a row in the current format is a huge task, inter county players are going non-stop, it's no surprise that we have two fresh sides in the final, with ourselves, Dublin, Derry, falling by the wayside. As mentioned, some players need most if not all the league off, the league has been ruined by the split season anyway, resting and blooding players is more important than not being relegated. 3. And this is more of a question, are we too small? I feel we have too many players of similar stature around the pitch. Back in '22, we had, Moran, Diarmuid and Barry, with Joe, Adrian Spillane and Stephen O'Brien coming in. All very physical. Moran and Barry gone, Adrian and SOB not considered, the game the weekend was crying out for Adrian IMO. We can't press the kick out, when we did in ET, they went long and won possession. Bryan Sheehan recently said that we are training athletes to be footballers, might not be to our taste, but we need a couple of athletes in the team. I actually don't feel there is a whole pile wrong with the players we have, tactically we are not playing to our strengths, the old line of "Kerry are too reliant on the two Cliffords and O'Shea" so what?? Get them space get them the ball and see how we go, would be my way forward, not constantly trying to get backs into scoring positions that we'd be much better off having the three lads in!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 15, 2024 9:44:48 GMT
If you recall in 2021 vs Tyrone it was said that the issue was we kept going short on kickout and our players were drained from having to carry the ball up the pitch again and again.
Again, kudos to the players for leaving it all our there, but strategically it might be considered as a poor idea.
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Post by handballlady on Jul 15, 2024 9:45:47 GMT
First time posting in a long time. Have mainly been a lurker the last few years. Hats off to Armagh as they deserved it. From reading the posts etc I see once again the Kerry supporters are the cause of much ire. I am lucky enough to call some legends of Kerry football close friends of mine. They have always said the support (or lack) of doesn’t make an iota of difference. That you are so tuned in and in the zone you take no notice of the noise around it. It’s just something that happens after playing in front of crowds after a while. Its background noise.
One player told me the only time he took any notice of the crowd in any game with a big attendance is when Kevin Mac scored the Dublin goal in 11. He said it was more the vibration of the arena than anything else that kind of gave him a jolt. Others have said games in Croke Park with poor attendances were worse to play in as you could hear every shout etc and it felt more like a training session. Even worse was playing the odd county league game with the club when only one man and his dog were the spectators. A s you could hear your own ‘supporters’ giving out about you and roaring that you have no interest in the club anymore. The supporters being the 16th man etc is just a load of guff. Something nice to say. It doesn’t really matter. No one is going to come out and say the Kerry supporters are a terrible shower and a bunch of bandwagoners. Paidi got enough stick for calling us animals.
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Post by southward on Jul 15, 2024 9:52:24 GMT
People would want to give over with the self-flagellating about the support. There are a lot of factors at play here.
Kerry are at the business end of things year in, year out, decade after decade and not just in the senior grade either. That's a lot of games, a lot of travelling, a lot of time and expense. I'd hazard a guess that the average Kerry person travels to far more games in a lifetime than anyone else. And it's not like there are professional supporters. Kerry fans have families, work, lives too.
All well and good for counties on an occasional mission. But would Armagh supporters pack Croke Park game after game, year after year, forever and ever? Would Galway? Not likely. The Dubs won't do it with ten times our population and they at home.
We have a smaller population than all the other contenders bar Mayo. Along with Donegal, we also have the longest journeys and probably the worst public transport. The impossibility of affordable accomodation doesn't help either.
We do alright, despite it all. Stain, my arse. Who cares what anyone else thinks?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 15, 2024 9:57:46 GMT
First time posting in a long time. Have mainly been a lurker the last few years. Hats off to Armagh as they deserved it. From reading the posts etc I see once again the Kerry supporters are the cause of much ire. I am lucky enough to call some legends of Kerry football close friends of mine. They have always said the support (or lack) of doesn’t make an iota of difference. That you are so tuned in and in the zone you take no notice of the noise around it. It’s just something that happens after playing in front of crowds after a while. Its background noise. One player told me the only time he took any notice of the crowd in any game with a big attendance is when Kevin Mac scored the Dublin goal in 11. He said it was more the vibration of the arena than anything else that kind of gave him a jolt. Others have said games in Croke Park with poor attendances were worse to play in as you could hear every shout etc and it felt more like a training session. Even worse was playing the odd county league game with the club when only one man and his dog were the spectators. A s you could hear your own ‘supporters’ giving out about you and roaring that you have no interest in the club anymore. The supporters being the 16th man etc is just a load of guff. Something nice to say. It doesn’t really matter. No one is going to come out and say the Kerry supporters are a terrible shower and a bunch of bandwagoners. Paidi got enough stick for calling us animals. That's the point I was making yesterday.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 15, 2024 9:58:16 GMT
People would want to give over with the self-flagellating about the support. There are a lot of factors at play here. Kerry are at the business end of things year in, year out, decade after decade and not just in the senior grade either. That's a lot of games, a lot of travelling, a lot of time and expense. I'd hazard a guess that the average Kerry person travels to far more games in a lifetime than anyone else. And it's not like there are professional supporters. Kerry fans have families, work, lives too. All well and good for counties on an occasional mission. But would Armagh supporters pack Croke Park game after game, year after year, forever and ever? Would Galway? Not likely. The Dubs won't do it with ten times our population and they at home. We have a smaller population than all the other contenders bar Mayo. Along with Donegal, we also have the longest journeys and probably the worst public transport. The impossibility of affordable accomodation doesn't help either. We do alright, despite it all. Stain, my arse. Who cares what anyone else thinks? Well said.
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Post by southward on Jul 15, 2024 10:15:19 GMT
Considering there are probably numerous on here who did not attend the game, it is worth reiterating the inference from Blacksheep and the direct reference from Cirraimick on the disgraceful, premeditated and orchestrated off the ball hits on David Clifford by multiple Armagh players, who took the liberty of running at speed from 5 yards one after the other in a matter of 30 seconds and lamping into a solitary and standing David. And would you believe that the ever vigilant and all seeing Gough and his officials missed it all? It was absolutely disgraceful. I can only imagine how he felt - no orotectiin from officials and no support in the ground to back him when he was set on. DISGUSTING. Spot on Taggert.I was in Davin and spotted it on a few occassions in first half.David fair play did nt react but it was sickening and he was the only player they were targeting. Amazing Gough can see jersey pulls on an Armagh player behind his back yet nothing at the other end. I'll bet a pound to a penny it was McQuillan in his earpiece about those.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 15, 2024 10:26:01 GMT
Spot on Taggert.I was in Davin and spotted it on a few occassions in first half.David fair play did nt react but it was sickening and he was the only player they were targeting. Amazing Gough can see jersey pulls on an Armagh player behind his back yet nothing at the other end. I'll bet a pound to a penny it was McQuillan in his earpiece about those. OK, I am putting myself at risk here of looking a fool here, but sure who cares. The play deployed against David Clifford here... has that EVER been blown up? Players are shouldering and pushing each other all around the pitch constantly. A lot of players push a player penalised for overcarrying. I think it is right to call out these tactics against D Clifford... but is it like for like on shirt pulling? Maybe it should be but is it?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 15, 2024 10:27:17 GMT
Just on Clifford,
It's not good lads but unfortunately big players have had to deal with it forever.
Donaghty could never win a free.
It's just the way it is.
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Post by cornerforward13 on Jul 15, 2024 10:45:02 GMT
I’d also like to ask the question of those with more knowledge here than I, why are we not getting our best shooters into the right positions, and why lads with pace are not driving through the middle from about 40 yards out, 90% of the time if you come onto a ball at pace like that momentum will either carry you into a bit of space, or you have to be pulled down for a free. It was nearly like our fellas were afraid to try that in case they were overturned. Playing with fear.
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Post by ciarraimick on Jul 15, 2024 10:45:05 GMT
First time posting in a long time. Have mainly been a lurker the last few years. Hats off to Armagh as they deserved it. From reading the posts etc I see once again the Kerry supporters are the cause of much ire. I am lucky enough to call some legends of Kerry football close friends of mine. They have always said the support (or lack) of doesn’t make an iota of difference. That you are so tuned in and in the zone you take no notice of the noise around it. It’s just something that happens after playing in front of crowds after a while. Its background noise. One player told me the only time he took any notice of the crowd in any game with a big attendance is when Kevin Mac scored the Dublin goal in 11. He said it was more the vibration of the arena than anything else that kind of gave him a jolt. Others have said games in Croke Park with poor attendances were worse to play in as you could hear every shout etc and it felt more like a training session. Even worse was playing the odd county league game with the club when only one man and his dog were the spectators. A s you could hear your own ‘supporters’ giving out about you and roaring that you have no interest in the club anymore. The supporters being the 16th man etc is just a load of guff. Something nice to say. It doesn’t really matter. No one is going to come out and say the Kerry supporters are a terrible shower and a bunch of bandwagoners. Paidi got enough stick for calling us animals. Fair enough but I know a few ex Kerry players too who told me the opposite.I also know an ex Munster rugby player well that said the great Munster support was worth so much to them it was like having an extra man and gave them more energy. After the 2022 win over Galway watch how Seanie O Shea goes on about the great Kerry support that day.Even Jack O Connor reckons the lack of Kerry support harmed us the last day.
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Post by thekingdom on Jul 15, 2024 10:45:26 GMT
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