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Post by greenandgold on Jul 13, 2024 19:41:05 GMT
Gutted for the team but well done Armagh- clearly they have learned and toughened mentally and physically from what they have been through in last few years - they were overall the better team. We def made mistakes- so did Armagh- ffs that’s sport- that’s life. Lots to reflect on for sure but some of the comments on here are well out of order esp so soon after the match i.e with zero reflection so based on pre-conceived thoughts/biases. I repeat - well done Armagh- deserved win today. Time to reflect
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 13, 2024 19:43:48 GMT
Many a day I left Croke Park after a loss and just accepted we were beaten by a better team.
Not today.
We controlled that game bar a pox of a goal.
Hard one to take because that's a bang average Armagh team.
Our big players didn't show up again bar Paidi.
We will habe a long winter to reflect now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2024 19:44:17 GMT
No Bashing players here, calling out the misuse of them by management…. Again. Peter Keane out, now it's jack O Connor out..it goes deeper than any manager..we have to ask why we don't have the depth and quality in the panel Jack played Paul Geaney and the way he's playing Clifford means he has a lot to answer for.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 13, 2024 19:45:29 GMT
People going on about luck might have failed to notice Kerry's goal was in the lucky category.
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Post by damarys on Jul 13, 2024 19:46:37 GMT
Congratulations to Armagh. I said during the week that I do not trust this kerry team.Good teams find a way to win ,this team find a way to lose.I do not want to be disrespectful but they lack something.They don,t have players to stand up down the home straight.I,m sorry as a kerryman to say this but the proof is in the pudding.
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Post by tralee58 on Jul 13, 2024 19:46:47 GMT
Well done Armagh, congratulations 🥂 My observation of Kerry is no cutting edge or ability to score goals. If you are lethally accurate kicking this deficiency is covered over. But with wides galore iexposed. Armagh seemed physically stronger to me anyway. When Kerry were desperate they removed the shackles and went for it bit more. Why does it have to get to that stage ?
Kerry did ok but they quite dull now in my opinion anyway. I don’t feel disappointed ☹️ just pleased for Armagh.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2024 19:47:14 GMT
People going on about luck might have failed to notice Kerry's goal was in the lucky category. We were banging on the door before that and should've scored both. Bit of luck in it, but Armaghs goal was shocking play by us.
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Post by kot on Jul 13, 2024 19:48:12 GMT
No Bashing players here, calling out the misuse of them by management…. Again. Peter Keane out, now it's jack O Connor out..it goes deeper than any manager..we have to ask why we don't have the depth and quality in the panel So you reckon Jack and his management team deserve to stay on? With that football we watched all year? The style that book ended Dublin’s run?
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Post by cornerflag on Jul 13, 2024 19:48:55 GMT
No Bashing players here, calling out the misuse of them by management…. Again. Peter Keane out, now it's jack O Connor out..it goes deeper than any manager..we have to ask why we don't have the depth and quality in the panel
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Post by cornerflag on Jul 13, 2024 19:49:53 GMT
Wonder if we have to question the underage structures too .. are we getting the best in the panel as this limits the senior panel
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Post by anriochtabu23 on Jul 13, 2024 19:52:05 GMT
Personally, think Gough is a great ref. Kerry backs should stop pulling shirt. Infinitely better match than two weeks ago and significantly better performance. I expect Kerry to strangle Armagh in the finish. I would make one sub at half time though. Paudie Clifford had his shirt pulled when actually on the ball coming from the Cusack stand side in the second half and nothing given. I think paudie pulled the shot. Lots of our defenders had a shot at goal. BO'B, Foley, Murphy, Dylan Casey, TOS and I don't know did any score?
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Post by powerhurl on Jul 13, 2024 19:56:53 GMT
Not trying to be the smart man but i think Kerry gaa needs a fresh clean out from administration to managment. We cant keep doin the same things with the same people and expect different results
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Post by mainevalley on Jul 13, 2024 19:57:03 GMT
Was a bit worried during the week when off the ball highlighted Armagh had a better squad, and I agreed but hoped it wouldn't come down to that. I still think our starting 15 was better than there's. My lasting image is of all the Kerry players cramping. One important player was cramping at 65min when I saw that I said to myself we are goosed. Fair play to Armagh for taking us toe to toe you have to admire what good ball players and athletes They are. And serious pace too.
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Post by Ballydonoghoor on Jul 13, 2024 20:00:46 GMT
Great game, well done to Ard Mhaca and also our men. I'm choosing to let more info emerge before volunteering my tuppence worth, it was a serious battle, I had a vision of lads not having the energy to kick penalties so great credit to all 30+, what a game.
As we will be tired I wouldn't rise to any 5h1t stirrers, safe travelling to all.
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Post by pillar on Jul 13, 2024 20:00:46 GMT
Peter Keane out, now it's jack O Connor out..it goes deeper than any manager..we have to ask why we don't have the depth and quality in the panel So you reckon Jack and his management team deserve to stay on? With that football we watched all year? The style that book ended Dublin’s run? I'm saying we have to look at the quality of player we are producing . Do you think we are well served in all areas of the pitch with a deep bench? I would say and I'm saying it with three years we have 7 maybe 8 players who are top quality.
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Post by kerryblueboy on Jul 13, 2024 20:07:21 GMT
Those Micky mouse games all year done us no favours at all our backs scoring at will 14 wides today half of them kicked by backs we don’t have the killer instinct of Dublin to wait to get the right man to shoot get the right man on the ball then shoot Sean o Brien should never be shooting there work it to the right man same with Dylan at the end of normal time rushed shot when patience was needed
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 13, 2024 20:10:21 GMT
Lads need to relax a bit,
A pox of a goal turned that game.
Nothing more.
Our big players went missing and that's unfortunately a fact.
That Armagh team are nothing special.
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Post by kot on Jul 13, 2024 20:11:40 GMT
So you reckon Jack and his management team deserve to stay on? With that football we watched all year? The style that book ended Dublin’s run? I'm saying we have to look at the quality of player we are producing . Do you think we are well served in all areas of the pitch with a deep bench? I would say and I'm saying it with three years we have 7 maybe 8 players who are top quality. I would say having your full back kick a ball wide in extra time followed by one of your scorers collecting a ball 30 seconds later screams of a bad set up. And the same man and his set up lost out against inferior teams at least 4 times. You cant tell me the players we have at our disposal arent capable of winning today. Scraped past a team in div 2 when he won in 2022 and found wanting against a div 2 team the subsequent years.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jul 13, 2024 20:12:01 GMT
Well done Armagh. They were the better team from half time and missed plenty of their own chances also throughout. I thought Seanie was good but faded in ET. Paudie really brought the fight also. Nothing much from the other forwards really and outside David, you’d have to wonder are the other three going to improve from their current level.
I thought Murphy was as brave as ever and remains one of our better players. Burke also did well. He is a guy born for the big occasion and someone I can see being a leader in this team fairly soon.
Maybe it’s because I go to nearly every Kerry match but there is a sense of predictability about how we attack and defend. For a large part it works but we really made it too easy for Armagh with their kickouts and when we tried to press in ET, Armagh were still able to get them away very well.
So many mistakes in that game and not one I could ever watch again
The people logging on to have a go at certain players and mgt can f*ck off. Sad friendless b*stards sitting in their bedrooms on a Saturday night typing furiously.
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Post by thegodfather on Jul 13, 2024 20:12:02 GMT
At Heuston, many despondent Kerry folk here and most agree with my post Derry stance. It was our management who held us back. Clueless football, infuriating tactics. Can we think of something more progressive than giving Jack the lad another 3 years. If Kerry executives have any bottle they need to pull the trigger on what we have on the line. Pat o Shea and Donoghy needs to be looked at. 5 all Ireland's between 13 and 18 and I'd say only 5 or 6 on the panel taking o Shea and Clifford out of it. That can't be right surely? Thats 100 players roughly that have disappeared. I'm not saying they will all make it but when was the last time you saw anyone truly given a league campaign? As for tactics well we saw what carrying the ball over and back for 3 or 4 minutes gets you. As for Armagh...well done.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jul 13, 2024 20:16:18 GMT
Lads need to relax a bit, A pox of a goal turned that game. Nothing more. Our big players went missing and that's unfortunately a fact. That Armagh team are nothing special. Our goal was a pox also. Armagh are nothing special, neither are we. This team has been on the road since 2019. In the top two or three every year probably but far from being a great team.
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Post by kerryexile5 on Jul 13, 2024 20:17:42 GMT
Like Kilkenny the week before, the Kerry support was beyond shameful today.
Clare and Armagh both finished very strong, driven on by fans who care about their county team.
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Post by kot on Jul 13, 2024 20:18:33 GMT
Like Kilkenny the week before, the Kerry support was beyond shameful today. Clare and Armagh both finished very strong, driven on by fans who care about their county team. Yeah, its the Kerry supporters fault….. for the love of god
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Post by exiled on Jul 13, 2024 20:19:45 GMT
When Kerry played their usual style against Northern teams we were slated for being naive..now we are being slated for trying to counteract their style. Can't win either way. We kicked it away today without even getting Seanie and David on the ball. It's not like the final last year as we didn't get David on the ball when it mattered. Whether it's a management problem or players problem is to be decided.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 13, 2024 20:21:22 GMT
Lads need to relax a bit, A pox of a goal turned that game. Nothing more. Our big players went missing and that's unfortunately a fact. That Armagh team are nothing special. Our goal was a pox also. Armagh are nothing special, neither are we. This team has been on the road since 2019. In the top two or three every year probably but far from being a great team. Kerry were in complete control of that game. Sorry lads but that's the truth and we fxxked it away. Like so many other games.
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Post by thegodfather on Jul 13, 2024 20:26:57 GMT
Like Kilkenny the week before, the Kerry support was beyond shameful today. Clare and Armagh both finished very strong, driven on by fans who care about their county team. I knew I cost them the game when I went for an ice cream at half time...
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Post by ciarraimick on Jul 13, 2024 20:27:44 GMT
Like Kilkenny the week before, the Kerry support was beyond shameful today. Clare and Armagh both finished very strong, driven on by fans who care about their county team. Yeah, its the Kerry supporters fault….. for the love of god He has a point.I really felt for the Kerry supporters today that tried to drive on our team in extra time but we were drowned out by Armagh supporters.In tight games YES its often the support that drags you over the line.For years we had fans that dont wear colours but thankfully that has changed.We have loads of ex players wont wear colours and we have a "wait for the final brigade"im afraid thats still there.I know its a long trek but I know a fellow Kerryman living in Dublin that did nt go today as he was waiting for final.Thats not a real supporter.Sometimes we are too cocky abd maybe thats why alot of neutrals like to see us lose.KK hurling fans were the same altho their ex players do wear the colours.
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Post by thehermit on Jul 13, 2024 20:31:00 GMT
Things used'nt be this way, things used'nt be this way at all
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Post by rollingstone on Jul 13, 2024 20:31:39 GMT
Fair play to Armagh for rising to the challenge. I can’t see them winning the final but then again I thought that today and they really stepped it up when we looked comfortable at half time.
Like many on here I have my own views on team selection, tactics and management but that’s not for today. Too much emotion on here by some people.
The lads died with their boots on out there, it wasn’t any lack of guts or effort that cost us today. However when you (a) give away a goal like that and (b) miss the chances we missed in the second halves of both stages of the match you just can’t expect to win when it matters.
Like Dublin last year it’s another game we had the chances to win but giving away that goal, missing two gilt edged goal chances and how many wides or shots dropped short by backs, you will be punished sooner or later and that’s what Armagh did today so fair play to them.
Like Dublin last year (again) it was a gift of a goal that was ultimately the difference. If we had cut those out we’d be going for 3 in a row now.
Them is the margins at the highest level I’m afraid.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Jul 13, 2024 20:31:43 GMT
Our goal was a pox also. Armagh are nothing special, neither are we. This team has been on the road since 2019. In the top two or three every year probably but far from being a great team. Kerry were in complete control of that game. Sorry lads but that's the truth and we fxxked it away. Like so many other games. We seem to be making a habit of it. Against Dublin last year, one enormous mess up cost us an All Ireland. Same again today and once it headed for extra time the writing was on the wall.
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