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Post by horsebox77 on Nov 23, 2023 14:13:25 GMT
A fully fit Tony Brosnan would be a scoring addition
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Post by crokes86 on Nov 24, 2023 12:36:35 GMT
Tony Brosnan would definitely help I think we need to find at least 2 new forwards to possibly start on the team . Dylan Geaney and Cillian Burke would be good additions I think Paul Walsh is a talented player would like to see him maybe get a look I think David Shaw would be a good addition Darragh Lyne in the half forward line maybe midfield area Joe O’Connor and Mark Ryan in midfield
Sean O’Brien in the midfield half back line area Stefan Okunbar in the half back line area James McCarthy and Dan O’Donoghue in the fullback line
Sean Coffey and Devon Burns goalkeepers I’d like to see
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Post by crokes86 on Nov 24, 2023 20:29:32 GMT
Yes I agree Barry O’Sullivan Dara Roche and Donal O’Sullivan did nothing wrong. Definitely deserves another chance. Armin Heinrich is another guy maybe in the half back line
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Post by mike70 on Nov 24, 2023 22:18:08 GMT
I think we will struggle next year for long periods, but we will be in the shake up at the business end. I don’t think we have unearthed any player that will make a significant impact next year, so our starting 15 from last year minus the departed, will be on stage again, means our bench will be important but I don’t think it’s going to be better, a few of the bench from last year have not been setting the world alight.
Fingers crossed for a good year ahead.
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Post by horsebox77 on Nov 24, 2023 22:31:11 GMT
I think we will struggle next year for long periods, but we will be in the shake up at the business end. I don’t think we have unearthed any player that will make a significant impact next year, so our starting 15 from last year minus the departed, will be on stage again, means our bench will be important but I don’t think it’s going to be better, a few of the bench from last year have not been setting the world alight. Fingers crossed for a good year ahead. I agree, but we don't need radical change, we were one score from our first two in a row since 2006/07.. we have enforced changes due to Jacks departure, I know some may not agree, but Seanie may eventually end up in centrefield...
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 24, 2023 22:36:08 GMT
I think we will struggle next year for long periods, but we will be in the shake up at the business end. I don’t think we have unearthed any player that will make a significant impact next year, so our starting 15 from last year minus the departed, will be on stage again, means our bench will be important but I don’t think it’s going to be better, a few of the bench from last year have not been setting the world alight. Fingers crossed for a good year ahead. I don't agree, I expect an angry Kerry to react next year. If we can get a bit stronger in thr middle and add a few options on the bench we will be ok.
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Nov 24, 2023 22:49:26 GMT
I think we will struggle next year for long periods, but we will be in the shake up at the business end. I don’t think we have unearthed any player that will make a significant impact next year, so our starting 15 from last year minus the departed, will be on stage again, means our bench will be important but I don’t think it’s going to be better, a few of the bench from last year have not been setting the world alight. Fingers crossed for a good year ahead. Typically negative view. I’d expect us to win the majority of our games in the league next year, good chance we win it out. Also Cillian Burke walks into the half forward line and I’ve no doubt he will make a significant impact.
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Post by crokes86 on Nov 25, 2023 2:46:44 GMT
I think we’ll be there or there abouts again
Dublin Mayo Galway Derry Tyrone and us You could make an argument for maybe Cork Monaghan Kildare Armagh Roscommon to surprise someone but I can’t see it
Our aim should be to make the panel stronger and bring in new faces
Forwards
I think if you look at the half forward line
Sean O’Shea and Paudie Clifford are certain to start I think 10 is up for grabs Dara Moynihan Mike Burns have been tried there and Adrian Spillane I would give Cillian Burke every chance in the league to see how he goes there because I think that position is up for grabs Darragh Lyne and Ronan Buckley could be other options and you might have Stephen O’Brien as well Tony Brosnan David Clifford and Killian Spillane would be my starters in the full forward line and I would give Dara Roche Donal O’Sullivan and Dylan Geaney more chances in the league Paul Geaney too of course . Paul Walsh I have good time for on either line
Midfielders
Jack Barry will be a loss . Diarmuid O’Connor will be a certain starter I’d like to see Joe O’Connor and Mark Ryan and Barry O’Sullivan get chances . Adrian Spillane will be there too .
Backs
Graham O’Sullivan Jason Foley and Tom O’Sullivan will be the starter in the full back line . Dan O’Donoghue Dylan Casey I’d like to see more of and James McCarthy deserves a chance Briain O’Beaglaoich will be there too. Paul Murphy Tadhg Morley and Gavin White are starters in the half back line . Mike Breen will be there Sean O’Brien Stefan Okunbar and Armin Heinrich I’d like to see tried in the league
Goalkeeper’s
Shane Ryan definite starter I’d like to see Sean Coffey and Devon Burns get games.
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Post by mike70 on Nov 25, 2023 6:45:12 GMT
I think we will struggle next year for long periods, but we will be in the shake up at the business end. I don’t think we have unearthed any player that will make a significant impact next year, so our starting 15 from last year minus the departed, will be on stage again, means our bench will be important but I don’t think it’s going to be better, a few of the bench from last year have not been setting the world alight. Fingers crossed for a good year ahead. Typically negative view. I’d expect us to win the majority of our games in the league next year, good chance we win it out. Also Cillian Burke walks into the half forward line and I’ve no doubt he will make a significant impact. if you stop and read I said we be in the shake up, I wonder what planet your on the last few months, you think we will win all our games, will we just keep flogging David and Paudie, the boys need a rest , without them we will struggle, keep playing them, high likely hood of injury, just a fact. So stand them down now, means they will need to catch up after on fitness. Young Burke will be good it won’t be this year, swashbuckling runs in a county championship is all fine, my dear man, that would get eaten up intercounty, the lad struggled to be a performer under 20, there was the odd show of class, give him time, he might be up to the standard come the summer as a bench player. Reality is same as last year with the enforced changes, my comment still stands we have not progressed the squad.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 25, 2023 7:47:33 GMT
Typically negative view. I’d expect us to win the majority of our games in the league next year, good chance we win it out. Also Cillian Burke walks into the half forward line and I’ve no doubt he will make a significant impact. if you stop and read I said we be in the shake up, I wonder what planet your on the last few months, you think we will win all our games, will we just keep flogging David and Paudie, the boys need a rest , without them we will struggle, keep playing them, high likely hood of injury, just a fact. So stand them down now, means they will need to catch up after on fitness. Young Burke will be good it won’t be this year, swashbuckling runs in a county championship is all fine, my dear man, that would get eaten up intercounty, the lad struggled to be a performer under 20, there was the odd show of class, give him time, he might be up to the standard come the summer as a bench player. Reality is same as last year with the enforced changes, my comment still stands we have not progressed the squad. The difference last year Mike was Kerry had come back late from the team holiday and were playing catch up for most of the league. Our key players got no off season. Crucially they came off a first win in 8 years. A very different position this year.
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Post by horsebox77 on Nov 25, 2023 9:39:27 GMT
I think we’ll be there or there abouts again Dublin Mayo Galway Derry Tyrone and us You could make an argument for maybe Cork Monaghan Kildare Armagh Roscommon to surprise someone but I can’t see it Our aim should be to make the panel stronger and bring in new faces Forwards I think if you look at the half forward line Sean O’Shea and Paudie Clifford are certain to start I think 10 is up for grabs Dara Moynihan Mike Burns have been tried there and Adrian Spillane I would give Cillian Burke every chance in the league to see how he goes there because I think that position is up for grabs Darragh Lyne and Ronan Buckley could be other options and you might have Stephen O’Brien as well Tony Brosnan David Clifford and Killian Spillane would be my starters in the full forward line and I would give Dara Roche Donal O’Sullivan and Dylan Geaney more chances in the league Paul Geaney too of course . Paul Walsh I have good time for on either line Midfielders Jack Barry will be a loss . Diarmuid O’Connor will be a certain starter I’d like to see Joe O’Connor and Mark Ryan and Barry O’Sullivan get chances . Adrian Spillane will be there too . Backs Graham O’Sullivan Jason Foley and Tom O’Sullivan will be the starter in the full back line . Dan O’Donoghue Dylan Casey I’d like to see more of and James McCarthy deserves a chance Briain O’Beaglaoich will be there too. Paul Murphy Tadhg Morley and Gavin White are starters in the half back line . Mike Breen will be there Sean O’Brien Stefan Okunbar and Armin Heinrich I’d like to see tried in the league Goalkeeper’s Shane Ryan definite starter I’d like to see Sean Coffey and Devon Burns get games. Hard to argue with you, I don't know would Paul Murphy be the guaranteed starter, I can see an injury free Brión O’Beagleoich taking the five shirt. We don't need radical changes, we give been there abouts since 2019 and prob left two after us, ironically enough, I think year we left after us was the kast minute goal in PUC.
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Post by mike70 on Nov 25, 2023 11:28:35 GMT
if you stop and read I said we be in the shake up, I wonder what planet your on the last few months, you think we will win all our games, will we just keep flogging David and Paudie, the boys need a rest , without them we will struggle, keep playing them, high likely hood of injury, just a fact. So stand them down now, means they will need to catch up after on fitness. Young Burke will be good it won’t be this year, swashbuckling runs in a county championship is all fine, my dear man, that would get eaten up intercounty, the lad struggled to be a performer under 20, there was the odd show of class, give him time, he might be up to the standard come the summer as a bench player. Reality is same as last year with the enforced changes, my comment still stands we have not progressed the squad. The difference last year Mike was Kerry had come back late from the team holiday and were playing catch up for most of the league. Our key players got no off season. Crucially they came off a first win in 8 years. A very different position this year. appreciate that Royal, and I was one that celebrated that well over due all ireland. But with the demands on the Clifford’s and my concerns with the lack of squad depth , I think we will be under pressure early days, but we will be in the mix come July, but it will be tougher than last year in my book
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Nov 25, 2023 11:58:17 GMT
Typically negative view. I’d expect us to win the majority of our games in the league next year, good chance we win it out. Also Cillian Burke walks into the half forward line and I’ve no doubt he will make a significant impact. if you stop and read I said we be in the shake up, I wonder what planet your on the last few months, you think we will win all our games, will we just keep flogging David and Paudie, the boys need a rest , without them we will struggle, keep playing them, high likely hood of injury, just a fact. So stand them down now, means they will need to catch up after on fitness. Young Burke will be good it won’t be this year, swashbuckling runs in a county championship is all fine, my dear man, that would get eaten up intercounty, the lad struggled to be a performer under 20, there was the odd show of class, give him time, he might be up to the standard come the summer as a bench player. Reality is same as last year with the enforced changes, my comment still stands we have not progressed the squad. We will be much stronger than in last year’s league. They are going back training around now so will be well prepared and there’s something to prove as well after last year. The Cliffords will get the bulk of the next 2 months off I’d imagine, modern inter county players don’t completely lose their fitness like they used to and anyway it wouldn’t matter too much to David. Regardless we should be winning games without them. The majority of people accept Burke is very likely to start championship next year. Our wing forwards bar Stephen O’Brien aren’t operating at too high of a level unfortunately so the pathway is clear for him. Your attitude of no one bar the fellas playing last year are good enough is completely wrong. Burke has proven more than enough that he deserves the full league campaign and I fully expect him to take advantage of the opportunity.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 25, 2023 12:36:43 GMT
The difference last year Mike was Kerry had come back late from the team holiday and were playing catch up for most of the league. Our key players got no off season. Crucially they came off a first win in 8 years. A very different position this year. appreciate that Royal, and I was one that celebrated that well over due all ireland. But with the demands on the Clifford’s and my concerns with the lack of squad depth , I think we will be under pressure early days, but we will be in the mix come July, but it will be tougher than last year in my book While the league has little relevance now it does set the narrative for the year ahead. Had we won as we should have against Donegal last year then our league would have looked a lot different and we possibly could have rested the Clifford's longer. I expect usto win our first game against Derry and push on from there.
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Post by peanuts on Nov 25, 2023 20:54:00 GMT
What’s the story with Ruairi Murphy. Is he injured.
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Post by crokes86 on Nov 26, 2023 1:47:44 GMT
We have 4 home games . I think we need to beat Derry at home So a strong team I would put out
1 Shane Ryan 2 Graham O’Sullivan 3 Jason Foley 4 Dylan Casey 5 Briain O’Beaglaoich 6 Tadhg Morley 7 Gavin White 8 Diarmuid O’Connor 9 Joe O’Connor 10 Cillian Burke 11 Sean O’Shea 12 Paudie Clifford 13 Tony Brosnan 14 David Clifford 15 Dara Roche
16 Devon Burns 17 Paul Geaney 18 Tom O’Sullivan 19 Killian Spillane 20 Dara Moynihan 21 Mike Breen 22 Barry O’Sullivan 23 Stephen O’Brien 24 Paul Murphy 25 Mark Ryan 26 Dylan Geaney
Just a rough team but we have Monaghan Mayo Dublin after that so we have to start well
Mike Burns Dan O’Donoghue Donal O’Sullivan Adrian Spillane Stefan Okunbar Paul Walsh James McCarthy Armin Heinrich we’ll just have a rotation system to give players games .
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Post by mike70 on Nov 26, 2023 9:16:41 GMT
Seems Donal Sullivan is off the panel according to the kerry eye, also jack o shea gammel and one other , that’s the word anyway
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 26, 2023 9:18:38 GMT
We have 4 home games . I think we need to beat Derry at home So a strong team I would put out 1 Shane Ryan 2 Graham O’Sullivan 3 Jason Foley 4 Dylan Casey 5 Briain O’Beaglaoich 6 Tadhg Morley 7 Gavin White 8 Diarmuid O’Connor 9 Joe O’Connor 10 Cillian Burke 11 Sean O’Shea 12 Paudie Clifford 13 Tony Brosnan 14 David Clifford 15 Dara Roche 16 Devon Burns 17 Paul Geaney 18 Tom O’Sullivan 19 Killian Spillane 20 Dara Moynihan 21 Mike Breen 22 Barry O’Sullivan 23 Stephen O’Brien 24 Paul Murphy 25 Mark Ryan 26 Dylan Geaney Just a rough team but we have Monaghan Mayo Dublin after that so we have to start well Mike Burns Dan O’Donoghue Donal O’Sullivan Adrian Spillane Stefan Okunbar Paul Walsh James McCarthy Armin Heinrich we’ll just have a rotation system to give players games . Great team but I don't want to see either Clifford in the first round of the league. You don't see Dublin playing the best team in the league infact you may not see a few of them till the end of the league We need to see what depth we actually have.
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Post by horsebox77 on Nov 26, 2023 12:42:28 GMT
I think Royal, most on here would concur with that consensus..
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Post by horsebox77 on Nov 26, 2023 12:50:11 GMT
For early league, if i was picking a starting XV today, I'd go along the lines of: Shane Ryan Dan O'Donoghue Jason Foley Dylan Casey Brión O’Beagleoich Tadgh Morley Mike Breen Diarmuid O'Connor Sean O’Brien Killian Burke Seanie Shea Dara Moynihan Tony Brosnan Dara Roche Killian Spillane
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Post by kerryblueboy on Nov 26, 2023 14:55:47 GMT
I would like to see Sean o Shea at 14 this year with David and an other Paudie at 11 Burke at 10 and o Brien at 12
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Post by horsebox77 on Nov 26, 2023 16:41:53 GMT
Just watched Barry O'Mahony give Tarbert enough of it, the talk around Duagh was he was back on the radar and inside with thr training panel.
Def worth a wook at on the wing on the McGrath Cuo
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 26, 2023 17:55:00 GMT
The monumental effort that it took for Miltown Castlemaine to get over the line may have made it too hard to get back up to the pitch today.
Surprised with that result however.
Atleast we should see Cillian Burke from the beginning of the league.
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Post by listowelemerrs on Nov 26, 2023 18:24:47 GMT
I think we’ll be there or there abouts again Dublin Mayo Galway Derry Tyrone and us You could make an argument for maybe Cork Monaghan Kildare Armagh Roscommon to surprise someone but I can’t see it Our aim should be to make the panel stronger and bring in new faces Forwards I think if you look at the half forward line Sean O’Shea and Paudie Clifford are certain to start I think 10 is up for grabs Dara Moynihan Mike Burns have been tried there and Adrian Spillane I would give Cillian Burke every chance in the league to see how he goes there because I think that position is up for grabs Darragh Lyne and Ronan Buckley could be other options and you might have Stephen O’Brien as well Tony Brosnan David Clifford and Killian Spillane would be my starters in the full forward line and I would give Dara Roche Donal O’Sullivan and Dylan Geaney more chances in the league Paul Geaney too of course . Paul Walsh I have good time for on either line Midfielders Jack Barry will be a loss . Diarmuid O’Connor will be a certain starter I’d like to see Joe O’Connor and Mark Ryan and Barry O’Sullivan get chances . Adrian Spillane will be there too . Backs Graham O’Sullivan Jason Foley and Tom O’Sullivan will be the starter in the full back line . Dan O’Donoghue Dylan Casey I’d like to see more of and James McCarthy deserves a chance Briain O’Beaglaoich will be there too. Paul Murphy Tadhg Morley and Gavin White are starters in the half back line . Mike Breen will be there Sean O’Brien Stefan Okunbar and Armin Heinrich I’d like to see tried in the league Goalkeeper’s Shane Ryan definite starter I’d like to see Sean Coffey and Devon Burns get games. Is Sean o shea cert to start though? To my mind he’s had one good game (Dublin July 22 semi) in the last 4 years. I think he’s a big problem now if we are being realistic… can’t live off his past anymore. If he can’t play FF, I’d say he may have to make way.
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Post by listowelemerrs on Nov 26, 2023 18:28:24 GMT
Typically negative view. I’d expect us to win the majority of our games in the league next year, good chance we win it out. Also Cillian Burke walks into the half forward line and I’ve no doubt he will make a significant impact. if you stop and read I said we be in the shake up, I wonder what planet your on the last few months, you think we will win all our games, will we just keep flogging David and Paudie, the boys need a rest , without them we will struggle, keep playing them, high likely hood of injury, just a fact. So stand them down now, means they will need to catch up after on fitness. Young Burke will be good it won’t be this year, swashbuckling runs in a county championship is all fine, my dear man, that would get eaten up intercounty, the lad struggled to be a performer under 20, there was the odd show of class, give him time, he might be up to the standard come the summer as a bench player. Reality is same as last year with the enforced changes, my comment still stands we have not progressed the squad. I agree fully on Burke.. people saying wind forward as well is the complete wrong position for him, unless he drops deep and plays a running game but I want a wing forward that can score and kick passes in to inside line. He’s a lot of fine tuning needed to his game. I would say at this moment and time, he’s a lesser version of Gavin o brien from o rahillys but he’s young I suppose.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 26, 2023 19:18:11 GMT
if you stop and read I said we be in the shake up, I wonder what planet your on the last few months, you think we will win all our games, will we just keep flogging David and Paudie, the boys need a rest , without them we will struggle, keep playing them, high likely hood of injury, just a fact. So stand them down now, means they will need to catch up after on fitness. Young Burke will be good it won’t be this year, swashbuckling runs in a county championship is all fine, my dear man, that would get eaten up intercounty, the lad struggled to be a performer under 20, there was the odd show of class, give him time, he might be up to the standard come the summer as a bench player. Reality is same as last year with the enforced changes, my comment still stands we have not progressed the squad. I agree fully on Burke.. people saying wind forward as well is the complete wrong position for him, unless he drops deep and plays a running game but I want a wing forward that can score and kick passes in to inside line. He’s a lot of fine tuning needed to his game. I would say at this moment and time, he’s a lesser version of Gavin o brien from o rahillys but he’s young I suppose. Let's see how he gets on, Give him a run of games and see. The bottom line is we lack scoring and lack height in that HF line. On a separate note Dylan Geaney kicked some lovely scores today.
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Post by kerryblueboy on Nov 26, 2023 19:23:57 GMT
Dylan geaney scored some great points today definitely worth game time in the league
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Nov 26, 2023 19:30:44 GMT
This is the make up of the panel to the best of my knowledge. 38 players. Someone else might have other information I’m not aware of.
Goalkeepers Shane Ryan Shane Murphy
Backs Jason Foley Tom O’Sullivan Graham O’Sullivan Dylan Casey Joey Nagle Dan O’Donoghue Damien Bourke Brian O’Beaglaoich Tadhg Morley Gavin White Paul Murphy Mike Breen Stefan Okunbor Armin Heinrich
Midfielders Diarmuid O’Connor Joe O’Connor Barry Dan O’Sullivan Sean O’Brien Paudie O’Leary
Forwards Adrian Spillane Ronan Buckley Stephen O’Brien Cillian Burke Dara Moynihan Michael Burns Keith Evans Ruairi Murphy Sean O’Shea Paudie Clifford David Clifford Paul Geaney Killian Spillane Tony Brosnan Darragh Roche Conor Geaney Dylan Geaney
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Post by mossie on Nov 26, 2023 19:47:31 GMT
Donal Sullivan seems to be one of the few names dropped from the panel. Surprising Yes, unless he has opted out himself or is going travelling like most of 20 somethings in the county at the moment. it's hardly a big secret that we need more scoring forwards and he didn't get much of a chance to show his worth in 2023. He looked so impressive against Monaghan in Killarney in the league but didnt really shine after that, it could be argued that he didnt much opportunity. He didnt really impress in the county championship for East Kerry, I d say that has cost him
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 26, 2023 21:00:28 GMT
Yes, unless he has opted out himself or is going travelling like most of 20 somethings in the county at the moment. it's hardly a big secret that we need more scoring forwards and he didn't get much of a chance to show his worth in 2023. He looked so impressive against Monaghan in Killarney in the league but didnt really shine after that, it could be argued that he didnt much opportunity. He didnt really impress in the county championship for East Kerry, I d say that has cost him Unfortunately he had a few chances in the league and crucially missed some chances against Donegal and Tyrone. The Monaghan game was worse than a training game. I liked him though he was big and strong but when we lost Dara Roche and then Tony Brosnan before the final and had only 1 option off the bench in Killian Spillane that was a killer. If he had pushed on there was a opportunity there last year.
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