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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 20, 2023 23:58:17 GMT
Is Paddy Tally still involved with the set up Yes.
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Post by Jo90 on Mar 21, 2023 0:07:06 GMT
Was that suggestion from a Dub by any chance? They'd love that alright, 4 home games every year. Dublin had 4 away games this year and as for Dublin's home games in the championship which I have spoken against on many occasions,Kerry voted with Dublin to have 2 "home games" in the super 8s.Kerry also conceded home venue to Dublin in the league around 2011 /12/13 as we got a golden handshake. We helped Dublin with the home games. Who lost out on home advantage in 1997 for the Kerry-Cavan game's move to New York?
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Post by mossie on Mar 21, 2023 0:11:02 GMT
actually on topic about home/away and the advantage of havin 4 games at home as opposed to 3..seen one great suggestion - 3 games home, 3 away and then a round played off in Croke Park over one common weekend or even just seperate 1 off games each week. imagine a Tyrone V Mayo and Kerry v Galway double header for example some weekend on a saturday, with the other 4 teams playing each other the following day. not really in favour of that over a 2 year period Kerry get 7 home leagues matches in your suggestion they get 6 home league matches over 2 years multiply your suggestion out over time and that is a lot of home matches Kerry lose out on, also gate receipt money and the commercial revenue lost to businesses in Tralee and Killarney would also be significant
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Post by colinsworth1 on Mar 21, 2023 2:50:58 GMT
Straight up, I have not been impressed at all by Kerry so far in this league who have mixed the very bad with the functional at best most of the time. Now we have seen some good moments in games but it's been far too limited. Terrace Talk on Radio Kerry this evening was a bit of a whine fest as the lads bemoaned the style of play and mass defences most sides now impose (I turned it off early). Well then how come Mayo are running amuck and playing some fantastic football at the moment against the same style of play we've been facing most weeks? Some are good at making excuses down these parts when perhaps a bit of self reflection would be better. Now I have been impressed with Galway's attitude in this league and football despite some departures and injury losses and after losing an All Ireland final they have not been feeling sorry for themselves or using excuses. Indeed they have seemingly built some good squad depth since the Al final and I think Eamonn Fitzmaurice summed them up well today in the Irish Examiner. We all know Galway tested Kerry ferociously in the All Ireland final and probably won the midfield battle overall that day but lost that game in the last five minutes with a crucial free decision especially swinging the contest decisively our way. It's not often you lose midfield and win an All Ireland final but that's how good David Clifford's performance was. I still expect the Galway midfield to be too strong for Kerry next Sunday and in Salthill they will be gunning for some payback after the AI final. Based on the evidence so far in this league - Galway to win next Sunday. I'm pretty sure statistically Kerry won the midfield battle v Galway in the AI final. From a kickout point of view that is. Galway midfield did a lot more damage from an attacking point of view. I’m not sure what metrics your using but I think we won as the poster states above despite being out played at midfield Clifford and others getting us through despite the mismatch Not many have mentioned it but Cillian McDaid ran us ragged in the second half with out a glove been laid on him .I think there simply had to be some miscommunication when I believe Adrian came in no one picked up McDaid it may have been an intentional gamble but I really thought it was alarming especially when he single handedly got Galway over the line v Armagh in what had to be the performance of the championship 2022 We simply do not have anything to match McDaid or Conroy and we’ve been trying to compensate for that deficiency for a number of years now Keep in mind too Matthew Tierney has been the standout player of the league so far and is in ferocious form. It would be good to get to the final v mayo Worth about 10 training sessions minimum And we’d be playing the best team in the country at present
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Post by kerrysouth on Mar 21, 2023 7:23:28 GMT
As predicted though not impressive Kerry collected the two points which should ensure Kerry retain their div 1 status which was Jack O Connor ‘s objective from the outset.Kerry in the first 15 mins possibly played their best football of the campaign with the pass from Tony Brosnan for the David Clifford goal epitomising what sets Kerry football apart from other counties.Again we lost our way towards the end of the game but in fairness this Roscommon team has performed well throughout the league campaign and battled to the end as expected.There is a more settled look to the Kerry team so I don’t expect many changes to the starting 15 for the Galway game with maybe Diarmuid O Connor starting depending on his fitness.Interesting interview by Jack in the Kerryman where he discusses the inside/outside role Brosnan is playing that is working well and with his stated desire that Clifford stays inside this is how he intends to set up going forward.As I can’t see Cillian or Paul playing that type of role will he possibly go with seanie and David inside and four worwards outside ie Brosnan /P Clifford as your scorers /playmakers and 2 workers / midfielders Moynihan /Spillane /O connor. Alternatively he could start Donal Down inside with seanie playing third midfielder role but yes jack is an extremely shrewd manager not to be underestimated he will have identified areas that we have struggled through the league so he will definitely pick players to bolster both the midfield and defensive areas yet getting the balance right .He also will see the huge value in having impact experiencedplayers off the bench ie Cillian and Paul Geaney to close the game out.Stephen o Brien is another player that will come into the mix when fully fit.Defensively Begley should come in when fully fit with Breen giving cover when he returns from injury.But yes there is definitely a new shape and pattern to the Kerry team emerging possibly framed by paddytally and co to cope with the blanket defence and extra layer of blanket defence for David Clifford that Kerry will need to overcome if Sam is to return to the kingdom in 2023.
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Post by Jo90 on Mar 21, 2023 10:36:00 GMT
I'm pretty sure statistically Kerry won the midfield battle v Galway in the AI final. From a kickout point of view that is. Galway midfield did a lot more damage from an attacking point of view. I’m not sure what metrics your using but I think we won as the poster states above despite being out played at midfield Clifford and others getting us through despite the mismatch Not many have mentioned it but Cillian McDaid ran us ragged in the second half with out a glove been laid on him .I think there simply had to be some miscommunication when I believe Adrian came in no one picked up McDaid it may have been an intentional gamble but I really thought it was alarming especially when he single handedly got Galway over the line v Armagh in what had to be the performance of the championship 2022 We simply do not have anything to match McDaid or Conroy and we’ve been trying to compensate for that deficiency for a number of years now Keep in mind too Matthew Tierney has been the standout player of the league so far and is in ferocious form. It would be good to get to the final v mayo Worth about 10 training sessions minimum And we’d be playing the best team in the country at present Kerry marginally won the kickout battle, winning 4 of Galway's kickouts, while Galway won 3 of Kerry's. While Galway had more of an attacking threat from midfield, Kerry play a different system, with Kerry's midfield playing deeper allowing backs like Graham O'Sullivan to go forward and ended up setting up 5 points and scoring one.
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Post by dodgyknees on Mar 21, 2023 12:34:56 GMT
I’m not sure what metrics your using but I think we won as the poster states above despite being out played at midfield Clifford and others getting us through despite the mismatch Not many have mentioned it but Cillian McDaid ran us ragged in the second half with out a glove been laid on him .I think there simply had to be some miscommunication when I believe Adrian came in no one picked up McDaid it may have been an intentional gamble but I really thought it was alarming especially when he single handedly got Galway over the line v Armagh in what had to be the performance of the championship 2022 We simply do not have anything to match McDaid or Conroy and we’ve been trying to compensate for that deficiency for a number of years now Keep in mind too Matthew Tierney has been the standout player of the league so far and is in ferocious form. It would be good to get to the final v mayo Worth about 10 training sessions minimum And we’d be playing the best team in the country at present Kerry marginally won the kickout battle, winning 4 of Galway's kickouts, while Galway won 3 of Kerry's. While Galway had more of an attacking threat from midfield, Kerry play a different system, with Kerry's midfield playing deeper allowing backs like Graham O'Sullivan to go forward and ended up setting up 5 points and scoring one. Where did you find those statistics?
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Post by dodgyknees on Mar 21, 2023 12:46:58 GMT
I've been reading a lot of doom and gloom around Kerry on this forum over the last few days with a lot people writing off kerry for All Ireland already. I'd have the opposite opinion. It's clear to see that Kerry's fitness is still not quite at the same level as some of the teams we have played. We have plenty of time to sort this issue given we are almost certain to be a Munster Final.
On the Galway match, I think Jack will be going all out to win it having lost the previous 3 games away from home and an extra match would suit the players coming back from injury. A re-match against an in-form Mayo would also let us know where we are in terms of form/fitness
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Post by Jo90 on Mar 21, 2023 13:08:49 GMT
Kerry marginally won the kickout battle, winning 4 of Galway's kickouts, while Galway won 3 of Kerry's. While Galway had more of an attacking threat from midfield, Kerry play a different system, with Kerry's midfield playing deeper allowing backs like Graham O'Sullivan to go forward and ended up setting up 5 points and scoring one. Where did you find those statistics? Check for 17:27 at www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0724/1311951-all-ireland-sfc-final-galway-v-kerry-updates/
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 21, 2023 14:17:58 GMT
I’d be going down the lines of Ryan, Casey, Foley, Tom Sull, Graham, Tadgh, White, O’Connor, Barry, Spillane, Seanie, Moynihan, Donal Down, Clifford agus Clifford éile.
That is assuming Foley and Spillane are injury free.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Mar 21, 2023 21:43:41 GMT
Point well taken stats are showing we were decent for restarts But take a look for example at Brendan Roger’s two weeks ago when he made Brian Fintan look like a novice when Rodgers decided to attack where as defending only is like raising a white flag . The first half Roger’s tried to contain Fintan and got cleaned Lessons to be learned there
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Post by colinsworth1 on Mar 22, 2023 0:31:04 GMT
Mayo s new management had. To decide whether to keep Aidan O Shea or move on without him in 2023 They decided to work with him give him a more defined role Let him play to his strengths and give him his confidence in front of goal he’s having a great season I feel like we need to re invent Jack Barry in a similar way Let him play some more football ,apparently for his club his much more involved and comfortable on the ball get him to be an attack threat once in a while and by all means defend But once in a while let jack Barry put the opposition midfield on the back foot and express himself more If we’re going to Salthill and only try contain McDaid and Conroy I think that’s shortsighted Why not force them to defend our 8 and 9 take some of the pressure of our backs Can we rehabilitate our midfield and restore it to the way it used to be for decades
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 22, 2023 3:37:07 GMT
To summarise, are you both just saying the best form of defence is attack with regard to Jack Barry?
Although Barry Dan has chipped in with a few scores, Diarmuid O'Connor would primarily be seen as our best threat as the attacking midfielder.
Whereas, I see the point you both are making, both midfielders cannot be offensive.. it looks to me that both our centre field lads play deep to allow the likes of White, O'Beagleoich, Tom Sull and Graham attack the flanks
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Post by colinsworth1 on Mar 22, 2023 17:51:27 GMT
Paddy Tally has tightened up our Backs Or forwards well Kerry forwards normally good Who s going to fix our midfield ?
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Mar 22, 2023 18:20:25 GMT
Paddy Tally has tightened up our Backs Or forwards well Kerry forwards normally good Who s going to fix our midfield ? Well the obvious answer is Mike Quirke.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 23, 2023 15:07:53 GMT
There is an absolutely awesome article by Paul Galvin in of all places and no disrespect The Killarney Advertiser. I posted this here reflecting how good I think it is, and it has planty of jack in it so not irrelevant either, maybe the timing had to do with it being in The Advertiser.
You won't be disappointed.
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 23, 2023 22:24:19 GMT
Any update on Foley?
Or even O'Brien, O'Beagleoich and Spillane?
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 24, 2023 19:59:38 GMT
1 (GK) Shane Murphy Seán Ó Murchú Dr Crócaigh 2 Dylan Casey Dylan Ó Cathasaigh Aibhistín de Staic 3 Jason Foley Jason Ó Foghlú Baile Uí Donnachú 4 Tom O’Sullivan Tomás Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis 5 Paul Murphy Pól Ó Murchú Rath Mhór 6 Tadhg Morley Tadhg Ó Muraile Teampall Nua 7 Gavin White Gabhin de Faoite Dr Crócaigh 8 Jack Barry Jeaic de Barra Na Gaeil 9 Barry Dan O’Sullivan Barra Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis 10 Ruairí Murphy Ruairí Ó Murchú Lios A’Troí 11 Seán O’Shea Seán Ó Sé An Neidín 12 Paudie Clifford Pádraig Ó Clumháin Fosadh 13 Tony Brosnan Antóin Ó Brosnacháin Dr Crócaigh 14 David Clifford Daithí Ó Clumháin Fosadh 15 Donal O’Sullivan Donal Ó Súilleabháin Cill Gharbháin 16 (GK) Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rath Mhór 17 Graham O’Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 18 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Cill Airne 19 Pa Warren Pádraig Warren Gniomh Go Leith 20 Micheál Burns Micheál Ó Braoin Dr Crócaigh 21 Diarmuid O’Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil 22 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 23 Paul Geaney Pól Ó Geibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis 24 Greg Horan Greagóir Ó hÓrain Aibhistín de Staic 25 Gavin Crowley Gabhin Ó Crualaíoch Teampall Nua 26 Ronan Buckley Ronan Ó Buachalla Lios A’Troí
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 24, 2023 20:00:18 GMT
Well at least we know what Jack's intensions are for Sunday.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 24, 2023 20:16:24 GMT
Well at least we know what Jack's intensions are for Sunday. Yes that's what jumped out at me too. When are they off to Portugal ?
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 24, 2023 20:21:53 GMT
Well at least we know what Jack's intensions are for Sunday. Yes that's what jumped out at me too. When are they off to Portugal ? Half time, by the looks of it.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 24, 2023 20:33:21 GMT
Yes that's what jumped out at me too. When are they off to Portugal ? Half time, by the looks of it. Yep suncream packed by the looks of it.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Mar 24, 2023 20:41:03 GMT
Wouldn’t be as sure about that lads, it’s only 3 changes and I wouldn’t say there’s a huge drop off in quality in the 2 outfield ones. Surely they’re going up to win.
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Post by goforit2 on Mar 24, 2023 20:48:39 GMT
I'm happy he's trying out a few guys. We have a lot of matches ahead of us and will need the panel. There are bound to be injuries over the course of the championship.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 24, 2023 21:14:42 GMT
Wouldn’t be as sure about that lads, it’s only 3 changes and I wouldn’t say there’s a huge drop off in quality in the 2 outfield ones. Surely they’re going up to win. That's not a team chasing a league final..
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Post by thehermit on Mar 24, 2023 22:29:04 GMT
Well at least we know what Jack's intensions are for Sunday. €18 for the ticket and about €60 for the diesel down the swany so, at least I decided not to waste €200 for a hotel room tomorrow night
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Post by piskin on Mar 24, 2023 23:14:55 GMT
Jack already knows about Shane Murphy at this stage, it is baffling for sure. Our kick outs will be awry again.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Mar 24, 2023 23:23:43 GMT
We’re going up to win it no if ands or buts Whether we’re good enough or not remains to be seen The only one question is the goalkeeper position It’s possible that Shane Ryan has picked up an injury no way in hell are these boys going out without a burning desire to beat Galway off the park
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 24, 2023 23:32:33 GMT
Jack already knows about Shane Murphy at this stage, it is baffling for sure. Our kick outs will be awry again. Maybe I'll be shot down for this, but Devon Burns is the second best keeper in my opinion, followed by Kelliher from Glenflesk. Murphy has been tried and tested - he won't be our number one, maybe time to let someone else contest or push Ryan for the number one jersey. Apologies to the Killarney Crokes contingent out there, who will back their Kilcummin man.
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Post by piskin on Mar 25, 2023 0:02:26 GMT
Murphy has had his chances to nail down the keepers spot but hasn't.
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