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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 24, 2023 23:06:21 GMT
Dun na nGall, the fort of the foreigners, always give us a heros welcome when we come to town, as reigning champs, first the salute with that traditional special applause as our boys take to the field - they even line out each side of us; then the full-on 70+ frenemy mins of 'let's see how far away we are' and I am not talking geography, and neither will they!
Sadly there is a tinge in the air of things in the community here and I am sure that special heartfelt camaraderie that only GAA can deliver will shine out of us in unity and solidarity of sympathy with our fellows.
A truly radiating exchange of mutually shared emotion and compassion - the pleasure of giving. The strength to need and the betterment when people are there for one another.
God bless the souls of those gone ahead, taken in a flash - though I didn't know any personally, I had chatted to that nice lady who worked behind the counter. She always reminded me of my own mother - the type who no matter how busy they are they chat to you - is it that they instinctively, intuitively, sense you though they don't know you. They'd always strike you as a Guardian Angel sent to us, you never know what's on people's minds and a single friendly word often lights up a dark place. Now she and the others who perished need us, and we are there - a wee prayer now maybe?
As a Kerryman I look forward to that frenemy hour, the first of many in 2023, so the show is on the road again.
Safe travelling everybody.
BTW A very interesting one by Morley in the Indo today and where he claims they are at the stage where their achieving 'full performance' in not happening for the full 70. In simple terms this is 'the flow' that Dublin and Limerick have done on their best days and as did our own boys in the 70s/80s. From it stems flow of play, etc but it stems from individuals having found their mojo and then getting into team full flow - ah sounds easy doesn't it, but remember it is, broadly speaking, the final touches to say a 15 year build as is the case with what our Treaty neighbours claim it took to get to the top.
Maybe their journey was more scientific than say The Cats, so who will venture as to which of the two is the better?
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 25, 2023 11:29:38 GMT
I was looking at earlier league campaigns and 2012 stood out to me. We played Dublin in the first round, in Croke Park, with Dublin being favourites and All Ireland champions. Yet the media wrote Dublin off after that game as being terrible and having won a fluke All Ireland. Very much the same position Kerry find them in now. Yet that Dublin went on to do great things, and I think this Kerry team will as well. This weekend will be a tough test for a lot of fringe players, but if we're truly building a great squad for another All Ireland, we should get over the line.
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 25, 2023 11:36:11 GMT
2023 is about developing the team once the monkey of winning an All Ireland is off the back from the 22 success. We played much of the 22 league without David Moran as he was injured, Joe O Connor also missed most of the 22 league campaign and is still an unproven player despite all the hype. Jack Savage was a fringe player for a number of years and was unlikely to set the world on fire in 23 so best of luck to him if he had gone back to Dubai. The pressure is off (as much as it can ever be off in Kerry) with the latest drought quenched and surely the league in 23 is more about finding those elusive 2 or 3 lads that will make the championship side contenders come the summer. The new format may help us in the championship this year and hopefully we can keep our squad injury free (particularly our key men) and find some talent particularly in the midfield positions. The championship is probably more open this year than it has been for the past decade with 5 or 6 teams realistically believing this could be their year.
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Post by Jo90 on Jan 25, 2023 11:56:37 GMT
I see last year Tony Brosnan and Jack Savage were top of the pile in the league with 8 appearances but were near the bottom in the championship with 3 and 1 appearances respectively.
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Post by mike70 on Jan 25, 2023 13:42:22 GMT
Tony and Jack fringe players on the kerry team, but that’s down more so to a few fellas called SOS, PC & DC, they prob be on 28 teams in the country to be fair.
As I said previously, there will be a day we won’t have the afore mentioned be it one of them or more for injury reasons, so we need to test the rest without them, bring it on I say.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 25, 2023 14:02:18 GMT
Tony and Jack fringe players on the kerry team, but that’s down more so to a few fellas called SOS, PC & DC, they prob be on 28 teams in the country to be fair. As I said previously, there will be a day we won’t have the afore mentioned be it one of them or more for injury reasons, so we need to test the rest without them, bring it on I say. Exactly. We all know how Dublin did supposedly throw last year's semi away only because one player didn't play, and if he had been there the Dubs would have had another All Ireland. We also know how very well how 31 other counties see Kerry as a one pony team, with DC, PC and SOS the ponies. (even if there's three, the word seems to be that we can't win without one of those three) This is the year for a lot of fringe players to put up their hands: Shane Murphy, Dylan Casey,Jack O’Shea, Cian Gammell, Jack McCarthy, Joe O’Connor, Barry O’Sullivan, Adrian, Spillane, Ruairí Murphy, Barry Mahony, Killian Spillane, Darragh Roche, Tony Brosnan, Greg Horan, Mikey Breen, Stefan Okunbor, Michéal Burns, Dan O’Donoghue, Donal O’Sullivan, Dylan Geaney, Ronan Buckley all will be given a chance this year I think to make it into the championship squad. Along that there is a group of players who will play if fit: Shane Ryan, Graham O'Sullivan, Jason Foley, Tom O'Sullivan, Brian Ó Beaglaoich, Tadhg Morley, Gavin White, Diarmuid O'Connor, Jack Barry, Seán O'Shea, Stephen O'Brien, Paudie Clifford, David Clifford, Dara Moynihan, Tony Brosnan, Killian Spillane, Paul Murphy, Gavin Crowley That is a very strong squad if you ask me and I'm probably missing a few players as well. The league is all about making the first group as good as the second group.
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Post by dodgyknees on Jan 25, 2023 15:47:15 GMT
I think Kerry will need to keep it very tight at the back if they are to have any chance of beating Donegal. They're basically missing the whole forward line and midfield that lined out against Galway in last years All-Ireland final. Very hard for any county to try and replace that caliber of player.
I know Donegal haven't been great in pre-season but I can still see them edging a low scoring encounter.
On a side note, as SOS is missing do we have anyone to take long distances frees from the deck? Could be important on a windy day in Ballybofey.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 25, 2023 16:23:01 GMT
the42.ie/5978012I must say I was taken aback by the seriousness of Gavins injury. I'm not expert by anymeans but it sounded very bad. I hope he recovers fully.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 25, 2023 17:59:05 GMT
Looking at last year's league opener against Kildare. There are a few of that team available for the game v Donegal. But... we do have quite a few on the panel who are trying to play their way into the team.
Guessing the team will be something like: Shane Murphy (Ryan apparently not available) Tom O’Sullivan, Jason Foley, Dan O’Donoghue (Dylan Casey, Jack O'Shea and Cian Gammell on the bench?) Jack McCarthy, Tadhg Morley Gavin Crowley (Paul Murphy not available) Joe O'Connor, Jack Barry (Diarmuid O'Connor injured Adrian Spillane; Micheál Burns, Dara Moynihan Killian Spillane, Tony Brosnan, Darragh Roche
Ruairí Murphy, Barry Mahony, Greg Horan, Mikey Breen, Stefan Okunbor, Michéal Burns, Donal O’Sullivan, Dylan Geaney, Ronan Buckley all around as well.
Scorers for Kildare: J. Hyland (0-6, 3 frees); P. Woodgate (0-3, 1 free); K. Flynn, P. Cribbin (0-2 each).
Scorers for Kerry: S. O’Shea (0-3, 2 frees); A. Spillane (1-0); D. Clifford, P. Clifford (0-2 each); D. O’Sullivan, P. Geaney, T. Brosnan (0-1 each).
KILDARE: M. Donnellan; S. Ryan, M. O’Grady (c), R. Houlihan; T. Archbold, J. Murray, J. Sargent; K. O’Callaghan, K. Flynn; B. McCormack, P. Cribbin, P. Tuohy; P. Woodgate, D. Flynn, J. Hyland.
Subs: K. Feely for K. O’Callaghan, N. Flynn for B. McCormack (both h-t); P. McDermott for P. Tuohy (52).
KERRY: S. Murphy; T. O’Sullivan, J. Foley, D. O’Donoghue; P. Murphy, T. Morley G. White; S. O’Shea (c), A. Spillane; M. Burns, P. Clifford, D. Moynihan; K. Spillane, D. Clifford, P. Geaney.
Subs: B. Ó Beaglaoich for G. White (inj 28); J. Savage for M. Burns (h-t); T. Brosnan for K. Spillane (48); G. Horan for D. Moynihan (52).
Referee: D. Coldrick (Meath).
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Post by The16thMan on Jan 25, 2023 19:27:14 GMT
Looking at last year's league opener against Kildare. There are a few of that team available for the game v Donegal. But... we do have quite a few on the panel who are trying to play their way into the team. Guessing the team will be something like: Shane Murphy (Ryan apparently not available) Tom O’Sullivan, Jason Foley, Dan O’Donoghue (Dylan Casey, Jack O'Shea and Cian Gammell on the bench?) Jack McCarthy, Tadhg Morley Gavin Crowley (Paul Murphy not available) Joe O'Connor, Jack Barry (Diarmuid O'Connor injured Adrian Spillane; Micheál Burns, Dara Moynihan Killian Spillane, Tony Brosnan, Darragh Roche Ruairí Murphy, Barry Mahony, Greg Horan, Mikey Breen, Stefan Okunbor, Michéal Burns, Donal O’Sullivan, Dylan Geaney, Ronan Buckley all around as well. Scorers for Kildare: J. Hyland (0-6, 3 frees); P. Woodgate (0-3, 1 free); K. Flynn, P. Cribbin (0-2 each). Scorers for Kerry: S. O’Shea (0-3, 2 frees); A. Spillane (1-0); D. Clifford, P. Clifford (0-2 each); D. O’Sullivan, P. Geaney, T. Brosnan (0-1 each). KILDARE: M. Donnellan; S. Ryan, M. O’Grady (c), R. Houlihan; T. Archbold, J. Murray, J. Sargent; K. O’Callaghan, K. Flynn; B. McCormack, P. Cribbin, P. Tuohy; P. Woodgate, D. Flynn, J. Hyland. Subs: K. Feely for K. O’Callaghan, N. Flynn for B. McCormack (both h-t); P. McDermott for P. Tuohy (52). KERRY: S. Murphy; T. O’Sullivan, J. Foley, D. O’Donoghue; P. Murphy, T. Morley G. White; S. O’Shea (c), A. Spillane; M. Burns, P. Clifford, D. Moynihan; K. Spillane, D. Clifford, P. Geaney. Subs: B. Ó Beaglaoich for G. White (inj 28); J. Savage for M. Burns (h-t); T. Brosnan for K. Spillane (48); G. Horan for D. Moynihan (52). Referee: D. Coldrick (Meath). Paul Murphy is available, he had time off after his wedding in December so he's had his break. Graham O'Sullivan might slot onto the backline also I'd imagine. As far as I know Joe O'Connor is out injured so I'd expect someone else to be in instead
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 25, 2023 19:31:29 GMT
I know he is unavailable for the early parts of the league, however I'm happy to see Paul Geaney being interviewed and committing for the coming year. I don't think he gave a good account of himself in the Galway game, but for me he's still one serious forward and has something to offer in my opinion.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 25, 2023 19:31:31 GMT
I thought Paul was given time off. If available that would be a big boost. Likewise Graham O'Sullivan. If Joe and Diarmuid O'Connor are both injured I'm assuming we will see more of Stefan Okunbor during the league. Though Adrian Spillane has been used as a 3rd midfielder in the past so perhaps that is a role he might play again
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Post by givehimaball on Jan 25, 2023 20:19:52 GMT
Based on what's been said in the media all of the following from last year's panel of 36 will be missing at the weekend
David Clifford Paudie Clifford Paul Geaney Brian Ó'Beaglaíoch Joe O'Connor Stephen O’Brien Diarmuid O’Connor Seán O’Shea Shane Ryan Jack Savage David Moran
The 26 from last year's squad available for the weekend for selction
Jack Barry Mike Breen Tony Brosnan Micheál Burns Dylan Casey Gavin Crowley Jason Foley Cian Gammell Greg Horan Tadhg Morley Dara Moynihan Paul Murphy Shane Murphy Éanna Ó'Conchúir Dan O'Donoghue Jack O'Shea Donal O'Sullivan Graham O’Sullivan Tom O’Sullivan Stefan Okunbor Darragh Roche Adrian Spillane Killian Spillane Pa Warren
Plus the 10 added this year James McCarthy Barry O'Sullivan Ruairi Murphy Barry Mahony Devon Burns Dylan Geaney Ronan Buckley Shane Cronin Eddie Horan Chris O'Donoghue
Obviously a lot of the experienced heavy-hitters will be missing but will be an opportunity for lads to step up and stake a claim.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 25, 2023 21:04:20 GMT
I'd settle for any sort of result on Sunday.
Donegal are in a post Murphy transition and new management.
They also had a poor preseason.
Having said that you'd have to think there delighted to be playing Kerry at home on Sunday.
Thinking back to this time last year and getting a fortuitous point in Newbridge.
I'd take that again.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 25, 2023 22:33:28 GMT
Based on what's been said in the media all of the following from last year's panel of 36 will be missing at the weekend David Clifford Paudie Clifford Paul Geaney Brian Ó'Beaglaíoch Joe O'Connor Stephen O’Brien Diarmuid O’Connor Seán O’Shea Shane Ryan Jack Savage David Moran The 26 from last year's squad available for the weekend for selction Jack Barry Mike Breen Tony Brosnan Micheál Burns Dylan Casey Gavin Crowley Jason Foley Cian Gammell Greg Horan Tadhg Morley Dara Moynihan Paul Murphy Shane Murphy Éanna Ó'Conchúir Dan O'Donoghue Jack O'Shea Donal O'Sullivan Graham O’Sullivan Tom O’Sullivan Stefan Okunbor Darragh Roche Adrian Spillane Killian Spillane Pa Warren Plus the 10 added this year James McCarthy Barry O'Sullivan Ruairi Murphy Barry Mahony Devon Burns Dylan Geaney Ronan Buckley Shane Cronin Eddie Horan Chris O'Donoghue Obviously a lot of the experienced heavy-hitters will be missing but will be an opportunity for lads to step up and stake a claim. According to reports Mark Ryan, Joe Linehan and David Mangan have also been called in with Ryan most likely to see game time.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 25, 2023 22:35:00 GMT
Who or what club is Joe Lenihen - haven't heard the name mentioned..
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Post by tpo on Jan 25, 2023 22:37:29 GMT
Ronan Buckley went off injured 28th minute 1st half for UCD tonight. Didn't look to bad, UCD were leading by 7points at this stage.
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Post by southward on Jan 25, 2023 22:52:27 GMT
Who or what club is Joe Lenihen - haven't heard the name mentioned.. Churchill
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Post by Kingdomson on Jan 26, 2023 0:07:10 GMT
Where is David Shaw these days?
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Post by thehermit on Jan 26, 2023 9:52:35 GMT
If we managed a win on Sunday it would be a seriously impressive result and on that would almost instantly take the pressure of us in terms of any potential relegation scrap. We should have too much for Monaghan and Roscommon at home and if Armagh are setting the pace again like last year I'd be inclined to target that game in Tralee as one to put out as strong a team as available to get a result.
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Post by Jo90 on Jan 26, 2023 12:14:13 GMT
Based on what's been said in the media all of the following from last year's panel of 36 will be missing at the weekend David Clifford Paudie Clifford Paul Geaney Brian Ó'Beaglaíoch Joe O'Connor Stephen O’Brien Diarmuid O’Connor Seán O’Shea Shane Ryan Jack Savage David Moran The 26 from last year's squad available for the weekend for selction Jack Barry Mike Breen Tony Brosnan Micheál Burns Dylan Casey Gavin Crowley Jason Foley Cian Gammell Greg Horan Tadhg Morley Dara Moynihan Paul Murphy Shane Murphy Éanna Ó'Conchúir Dan O'Donoghue Jack O'Shea Donal O'Sullivan Graham O’Sullivan Tom O’Sullivan Stefan Okunbor Darragh Roche Adrian Spillane Killian Spillane Pa Warren Plus the 10 added this year James McCarthy Barry O'Sullivan Ruairi Murphy Barry Mahony Devon Burns Dylan Geaney Ronan Buckley Shane Cronin Eddie Horan Chris O'Donoghue Obviously a lot of the experienced heavy-hitters will be missing but will be an opportunity for lads to step up and stake a claim. According to reports Mark Ryan, Joe Linehan and David Mangan have also been called in with Ryan most likely to see game time. No doubt Mark Ryan deserved a call-up after his All-Ireland performance with Rathmore, but it's odd to think he didn't make the East Kerry team (or even squad?) but did make the Kerry squad.
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Post by backofthenet on Jan 26, 2023 13:09:07 GMT
According to reports Mark Ryan, Joe Linehan and David Mangan have also been called in with Ryan most likely to see game time. No doubt Mark Ryan deserved a call-up after his All-Ireland performance with Rathmore, but it's odd to think he didn't make the East Kerry team (or even squad?) but did make the Kerry squad. He opted not to play with East Kerry to recuperate a hamstring injury, worked out well considering he captained Rathmore to an All Ireland
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Post by dc84 on Jan 26, 2023 13:14:18 GMT
Could be a tough opener be interesting to see how donegal go post murphy. A win would be amazing given absentees but a good performance would do me. We should be looking at 3 home wins in all honesty as a minimum hard to see any team dominating the division so one away win might be enough for a final spot. If things go badly sunday hopefully there wont be an overreaction id give everyone a bit of leeway after last year once we are back playing well around march i will be happy.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 26, 2023 15:58:10 GMT
Could be a tough opener be interesting to see how donegal go post murphy. A win would be amazing given absentees but a good performance would do me. We should be looking at 3 home wins in all honesty as a minimum hard to see any team dominating the division so one away win might be enough for a final spot. If things go badly sunday hopefully there wont be an overreaction id give everyone a bit of leeway after last year once we are back playing well around march i will be happy. Well said DC My fear is the condensed season leaves so little room to find your form. Mayo never recovered after league final and Tyrone were well off it.
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Post by mike70 on Jan 26, 2023 17:00:49 GMT
Could be a tough opener be interesting to see how donegal go post murphy. A win would be amazing given absentees but a good performance would do me. We should be looking at 3 home wins in all honesty as a minimum hard to see any team dominating the division so one away win might be enough for a final spot. If things go badly sunday hopefully there wont be an overreaction id give everyone a bit of leeway after last year once we are back playing well around march i will be happy. Wishfull thinking, animals comes to mind.😂🙈
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Post by thehermit on Jan 26, 2023 20:41:12 GMT
Yep we're only one bad result away from a total freakout around here myself very much included
Be interesting to look back on what the comments were like the night of the Kildare match this time last year!
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Post by thehermit on Jan 26, 2023 20:43:09 GMT
Could be a tough opener be interesting to see how donegal go post murphy. A win would be amazing given absentees but a good performance would do me. We should be looking at 3 home wins in all honesty as a minimum hard to see any team dominating the division so one away win might be enough for a final spot. If things go badly sunday hopefully there wont be an overreaction id give everyone a bit of leeway after last year once we are back playing well around march i will be happy. Well said DC My fear is the condensed season leaves so little room to find your form. Mayo never recovered after league final and Tyrone were well off it. Given the amount of games in the Championship under the new format I'm not sure that will be as big a problem!
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Post by Jo90 on Jan 26, 2023 20:46:21 GMT
Yep we're only one bad result away from a total freakout around here myself very much included Be interesting to look back on what the comments were like the night of the Kildare match this time last year!
That's nothing - half the county were looking for Prozac prescriptions after Jack's 1st game v Longford. The other half were marching to Dromid with pitchforks and torches.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 26, 2023 21:04:54 GMT
Yep we're only one bad result away from a total freakout around here myself very much included Be interesting to look back on what the comments were like the night of the Kildare match this time last year!
That's nothing - half the county were looking for Prozac prescriptions after Jack's 1st game v Longford. The other half were marching to Dromid with pitchforks and torches. It was Longford infairness 🤣🤣
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Post by thehermit on Jan 26, 2023 21:05:26 GMT
Yep we're only one bad result away from a total freakout around here myself very much included Be interesting to look back on what the comments were like the night of the Kildare match this time last year!
That's nothing - half the county were looking for Prozac prescriptions after Jack's 1st game v Longford. The other half were marching to Dromid with pitchforks and torches. Was that an away game? I certainly wasn't at it and can't even remember RK doing commentary but I distinctly recall being in the car with Dad when they announced the result and the two of us looking at each other going: "Longford?!! Who's this chancer they're after shafting Paidi for"
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