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Post by thehermit on Jan 14, 2023 18:40:06 GMT
Sound lads, I'm sure I'll find somewhere to abandon the Aston (ie 08 Mondeo, a man can dream though, a man can dream)
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 15, 2023 22:38:56 GMT
Let's 'Gresham it' around The Villa Rose say 1 hour b4 throw in - we've met there b4 and it's only a stones throw from the pitch.
Met a few aprez County u20 final yesterday and they are looking forward to 'meetin n greetin' so hopefully a good game is in prospect.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 18, 2023 15:39:59 GMT
To get back to club championships: I have a new car and intend to drive up to Ballybofey for the match next week. I haven't made any long trips with the car yet, so I was planning to go to Dublin this Sunday. Since then I've been invited to a commemoration in Dublin for family members who were killed during the holocaust. I now have a spare ticket for the hurling and football senior finals, if someone wants it.
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Post by Jo90 on Jan 19, 2023 12:40:20 GMT
With the round robin system coming in this year the league has very little importance for Kerry. Main aspect is to blood the new panel members and give players who've played through the Winter a rest. I disagree, I think Kerry should be aiming to win as many competitions as possible. To cement that winning mentality. We can blood players whilst having a competitive team at the same time. Dubs won 4 League titles in a row between 2013-16 and went over 30 games unbeaten and it spurred them onto win All Irelands in the 4 years after also. Losing can become a habit just as easy as winning. Kerry need to keeping winning as many titles they can both in League & Championship. Of course they're going to try to win it, but last year Kerry had 3/4s or more of a full strength team out in every match. This year they'll be without the Cliffords and Ryan for a good bit of it, a lot of the new panelists will be given runs, so Kerry will be playing with a much weaker team than last year, so while the players they put out will be hell-bent on winning, they just mightn't have the quality of players, in the initial stages at least, to get enough points to make it to the league final. No danger of relegation with Roscommon, Monaghan and Donegal not in good places at the moment.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 19, 2023 14:19:00 GMT
I disagree, I think Kerry should be aiming to win as many competitions as possible. To cement that winning mentality. We can blood players whilst having a competitive team at the same time. Dubs won 4 League titles in a row between 2013-16 and went over 30 games unbeaten and it spurred them onto win All Irelands in the 4 years after also. Losing can become a habit just as easy as winning. Kerry need to keeping winning as many titles they can both in League & Championship. Of course they're going to try to win it, but last year Kerry had 3/4s or more of a full strength team out in every match. This year they'll be without the Cliffords and Ryan for a good bit of it, a lot of the new panelists will be given runs, so Kerry will be playing with a much weaker team than last year, so while the players they put out will be hell-bent on winning, they just mightn't have the quality of players, in the initial stages at least, to get enough points to make it to the league final. No danger of relegation with Roscommon, Monaghan and Donegal not in good places at the moment. Any and/or all of those 3 teams could turn in an instant and maybe that uncertainty will expose have that couldron effect will help our rookies to understand what it is like. Ballybofey is an uneven auld surface - it has a very unusual history, may have been submerged and less far back in history that you'd imagine, I must ask again about it. O'Donnell Park in Letterkenny is Dgal's newest county venue - it is a Prunty pitch, maybe same size as ASP, not as big as Fitzgerald Stadium. Funnily enough O'Donnell Park is not seen as their lucky ground but they have beaten us there every time we met. Both options have that x factor for atmosphere, Ballybofey for historic reasons, Letterkenny because win, lose or draw, it gives me bragging rights, well I take 'em anyway - the shaggers wouldn't let you off with a thing, ah good crack, the diversity in views on GAA topics is as awesome as the quality. I mentioned previously that I was once told in Downings that unless you were a GAA head you'd have nothing to talk about in the pub, ah maybe exaggeration but not without foundation. One thing for sure, there's always a GAA head within a stones throw. It is a county very similar to Kerry - population, coast, tourism, farming, soccer is massive even in the Gweedore Gaeltacht area - I watched an u20 game with 2 of that nationality lately and oh bitter sweet, couldn't pick up their Gaeilge but it sounded nice. Two auld lads and they taking an auld game as if it was the last bite of food on earth, serious or what - no let up in 'em at all, you wouldn't want to be near a leithid for a serious county game or your won leithid mightn't be around to tell the tale. They are like ourselves - rogues, bluffers testing you out, all heart, some serious sports intelligence in a few I've gotten to rub shoulders with, I know of one such individual who mightn't know his arse from his elbow but come 'The Gaelic' as they call it and he'd make a fool out of us all - he once described an incident to me in a game I was at and that he had only heard on radio and I was ashamed, secretly of course, I nodded as if I understood, well of course - couldn't let down the side! I must also enquire again re this crack of youngsters having to declare between soccer or The Gaelic at around 15 or 16 - does that apply in Kerry?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 19, 2023 15:38:58 GMT
Any word on Diarmuids injury ?
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Post by jackiel on Jan 19, 2023 15:55:37 GMT
Any word on Diarmuids injury ? I saw a headline for an article in Kerry's Eye earlier saying he's facing a long spell on the sideline. Didn't have time to read so can't say more than that.
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Post by decondd2 on Jan 19, 2023 17:48:46 GMT
Diarmuid has ankle ligament damage. 6-8 weeks before being back.
Won't see any league action anyway I'd imagine.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 19, 2023 18:10:54 GMT
Diarmuid has ankle ligament damage. 6-8 weeks before being back. Won't see any league action anyway I'd imagine. Often injury forces the hand and on occasion a coach stumbles upon a winning combination by default, I often think of Bryan Sheehan being re-deployed at midfield as a result of injuries and retirements, it turned out to be a turning point with the St Mary's man winning an All Star as a result. We need mud field cover, Jack has no choice but look at options now, maybe a blessing in disguise.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 19, 2023 19:32:46 GMT
Thanks for the responses lads,
Thankfully it's not a season ender and possibly getting him back by mid match.
We desperately need him if we are to retain the All Ireland.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 19, 2023 19:34:54 GMT
www.the42.ie/kerry-peter-keane-football-5973296-Jan2023/“Goalkeeper Shane Ryan stated in the wake of Rathmore’s All-Ireland club win that he doesn’t require surgery on a shoulder injury he has been troubled with. There is mounting speculation that O’Connor may add a number of extra players to his Kerry squad for the league, including Rathmore’s Mark Ryan, Churchill’s Joe Linehan and Laune Rangers player David Mangan.”
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 19, 2023 19:49:40 GMT
www.the42.ie/kerry-peter-keane-football-5973296-Jan2023/“Goalkeeper Shane Ryan stated in the wake of Rathmore’s All-Ireland club win that he doesn’t require surgery on a shoulder injury he has been troubled with. There is mounting speculation that O’Connor may add a number of extra players to his Kerry squad for the league, including Rathmore’s Mark Ryan, Churchill’s Joe Linehan and Laune Rangers player David Mangan.” Mark Ryan was on panel before. I don't know enough about the club scene in Kerry anymore but what's the feeling on Matt Rennie (Fossa)? . He looked like a gem of a centre forward in the junior final. I might be wrong but was he in with East Kerry ? I think he needs to playing at that level first. He did have a cracking game on Sunday.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 19, 2023 21:09:34 GMT
No Rennie wasn’t even on the East Kerry panel. He’s an outstanding ball winner and fielder but the rest of his game wouldn’t be inter county level.
Mark Ryan was on the panel under PK, when Jack came in all the extended panellists PK had were dropped but some are back in again now like Ronan Buckley and Eddie Horan. I think Mark might be ready to make an impact at this level, I would rate him ahead of the other current fringe panelists at midfield.
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Post by The16thMan on Jan 19, 2023 23:19:14 GMT
No Rennie wasn’t even on the East Kerry panel. He’s an outstanding ball winner and fielder but the rest of his game wouldn’t be inter county level. Mark Ryan was on the panel under PK, when Jack came in all the extended panellists PK had were dropped but some are back in again now like Ronan Buckley and Eddie Horan. I think Mark might be ready to make an impact at this level, I would rate him ahead of the other current fringe panelists at midfield. I agree about Rennie, doesn't have the ball skills for intercounty. I think it might be worth having a look at Mike Breen & Sefan Okunbor at various times during the league in Midfield. As well as Jack Barry and perhaps Ronan Buckley even though Buckleys size would worry me but it's worth exploring different options. I still think Kerry will have a strong team for the League. Kerry beat Dublin in the league last year and only 10 out of that 15 started the AI Final, so it’s not as if Kerry played the whole league with their strongest team out... I also worked out thay Kerry should have 10 (of a different combination) of that 15 who started that night available for our 1st game against Donegal. Most players who are being rested would be due back for our 3rd game in Castlebar I think v Mayo on Feb 18th I think so I would still fancy Kerry to have a strong league and compete for a place in the league final (fingers crossed).
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Post by mossie on Jan 20, 2023 0:16:14 GMT
No Rennie wasn’t even on the East Kerry panel. He’s an outstanding ball winner and fielder but the rest of his game wouldn’t be inter county level. Mark Ryan was on the panel under PK, when Jack came in all the extended panellists PK had were dropped but some are back in again now like Ronan Buckley and Eddie Horan. I think Mark might be ready to make an impact at this level, I would rate him ahead of the other current fringe panelists at midfield. did Mark play much kerry minor and under 20\21?
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Post by mossie on Jan 20, 2023 0:18:26 GMT
No Rennie wasn’t even on the East Kerry panel. He’s an outstanding ball winner and fielder but the rest of his game wouldn’t be inter county level. Mark Ryan was on the panel under PK, when Jack came in all the extended panellists PK had were dropped but some are back in again now like Ronan Buckley and Eddie Horan. I think Mark might be ready to make an impact at this level, I would rate him ahead of the other current fringe panelists at midfield. I agree about Rennie, doesn't have the ball skills for intercounty. I think it might be worth having a look at Mike Breen & Sefan Okunbor at various times during the league in Midfield. As well as Jack Barry and perhaps Ronan Buckley even though Buckleys size would worry me but it's worth exploring different options. I still think Kerry will have a strong team for the League. Kerry beat Dublin in the league last year and only 10 out of that 15 started the AI Final, so it’s not as if Kerry played the whole league with their strongest team out... I also worked out thay Kerry should have 10 (of a different combination) of that 15 who started that night available for our 1st game against Donegal. Most players who are being rested would be due back for our 3rd game in Castlebar I think v Mayo on Feb 18th I think so I would still fancy Kerry to have a strong league and compete for a place in the league final (fingers crossed). surely Mark Ryan, Barry Sullivan, Ronan Buckley will be ahead of Mike Breen as a midfield option, Mike will get loads of game time in the backs
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 20, 2023 8:26:26 GMT
Agree that Mike will get loads of league game time, but the point made is not beyond the bounds of possibility, We played a recent league game with Tadgh Morley lining out in midfield.
The days of the sixty yard thump out to the middle of the field resulting in a 50/50 aerial tussle are long long gone. I think Gilroy was the first to veer away by pairing Shane Ryan with Ciarán Whelan. I can see the merits in having a "baller" inside the two 45's. The majority of kickout's now are short or to the pockets in set plays.
At this juncture, all avenues in this regard are surely explored and tried in Currans.
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Post by keane on Jan 20, 2023 11:06:31 GMT
Agree that Mike will get loads of league game time, but the point made is not beyond the bounds of possibility, We played a recent league game with Tadgh Morley lining out in midfield. The days of the sixty yard thump out to the middle of the field resulting in a 50/50 aerial tussle are long long gone. I think Gilroy was the first to veer away by pairing Shane Ryan with Ciarán Whelan. I can see the merits in having a "baller" inside the two 45's. The majority of kickout's now are short or to the pockets in set plays. At this juncture, all avenues in this regard are surely explored and tried in Currans. I'd say Shane Ryan was playing midfield under Caffrey.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 20, 2023 11:58:50 GMT
Agree that Mike will get loads of league game time, but the point made is not beyond the bounds of possibility, We played a recent league game with Tadgh Morley lining out in midfield. The days of the sixty yard thump out to the middle of the field resulting in a 50/50 aerial tussle are long long gone. I think Gilroy was the first to veer away by pairing Shane Ryan with Ciarán Whelan. I can see the merits in having a "baller" inside the two 45's. The majority of kickout's now are short or to the pockets in set plays. At this juncture, all avenues in this regard are surely explored and tried in Currans. I'd say Shane Ryan was playing midfield under Caffrey. Actually, yes you're correct, but you get my point, we don't necessarily need a six foot six lad in there anymore.
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Post by keane on Jan 20, 2023 12:09:53 GMT
I'd say Shane Ryan was playing midfield under Caffrey. Actually, yes you're correct, but you get my point, we don't necessarily need a six foot six lad in there anymore. Oh yeah agree with the post, went into trivia mode there sorry. Cian O'Sullivan is one people forget spent a year playing midfield actually. Wouldn't have appeared particularly suited to it but being intelligent is probably the primary attribute required.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 20, 2023 15:36:06 GMT
CiarraiMick, Sure in the early to mid-nineties, we tried so many midfielders it was like a merry go round, admittedly some were out and out midfielders like Noel O’Mahony, Hannifin, Conor Kearney, etc but several others were either natural backs or forwards who were tried there regardless of size to see if the round peg did indeed fit or fill the square hole, Bernard Mac, Timmy Fleming, Sean Burke, Connie Murphy, Flaherty, Moynihan, even Eamon Breen lined out against Dublin one league game in 1994. All were natural backs or forwards but at least they option was trailed and ruled in or out. Actually now that you mention the Tomás O'Sé in Midfield, that was a league game in Tralee vs Mayo if my memory is right.... that stunt didn't last twenty minutes.
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Post by kerryexile5 on Jan 20, 2023 19:09:53 GMT
Diarmuid Connolly and Paul Flynn also played midfield for Dublin in big championship games. The great Paudie Ó Sé played midfield for Kerry in 77.He was oy 5 ft 8.Pgie Moran played midfield for Kerry as did Tomás Ó Sé and Seamus Moynihan and Liam Flaherty. Love or hate him Diarmuid Connolly was one of the most gifted & natural footballers I have ever seen grace Croke Park.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 21, 2023 4:44:20 GMT
Diarmuid Connolly and Paul Flynn also played midfield for Dublin in big championship games. The great Paudie Ó Sé played midfield for Kerry in 77.He was oy 5 ft 8.Pgie Moran played midfield for Kerry as did Tomás Ó Sé and Seamus Moynihan and Liam Flaherty. Love or hate him Diarmuid Connolly was one of the most gifted & natural footballers I have ever seen grace Croke Park. Probably the most blackguarded footballer in history. Fouled out/forced out of the game by weak officials, a poor rulebook and the idiotic GAA attitude of ‘sure they’re both at it, give them 2 yellows’
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 21, 2023 8:50:33 GMT
Love or hate him Diarmuid Connolly was one of the most gifted & natural footballers I have ever seen grace Croke Park. Probably the most blackguarded footballer in history. Fouled out/forced out of the game by weak officials, a poor rulebook and the idiotic GAA attitude of ‘sure they’re both at it, give them 2 yellows’ Isn't that the truth, he was probably the most intelligent baller but had the lethal scoring capability
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Post by dc84 on Jan 21, 2023 13:40:14 GMT
Anyone like to take a stab at whos available for the donegal match?
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Post by kerryboyo on Jan 21, 2023 13:56:28 GMT
1.S Murphy 2.D Casey 3.J Foley 4.T Sullivan 5.M Breen 6.T Morley 7.G O Sullivan 8.R Buckley 9.J Barry 10.M Burns 11.S O Shea 12.D Moynihan 13.T Brosnan 14.D Roche 15.K Spillane 16.D Burns 17.D O Donoghue 18.B O Beaghlaoigh 19.J O Shea 20.S Okunbor 21.R Murphy 22.B Mahoney 23.E Horan 24.D O Sullivan
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 21, 2023 14:11:27 GMT
Anyone know Seanie’s, O’Brien’s and Geaney’s injury status?
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Post by mike70 on Jan 21, 2023 14:27:47 GMT
Really looking forward to see how the team competes without the Clifford’s, et al, it will give a good read on the strength of our squad.
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Post by mike70 on Jan 21, 2023 16:29:30 GMT
Really looking forward to see how the team competes without the Clifford’s, et al, it will give a good read on the strength of our squad. While it weakens us I think its good for the forwards especially with David resting. It gives the others more focus and they will get on more ball. Unbeknown to alot of Kerry players they are always looking for David. I remember in 2000 when Maurice got injured. There was panic in the Kingdom but Dara Ó Cinnéide Mike Frank Russell and Johnny Crowley really came to the fore. 100% agree, it’s time for others to step up, in all probability, DC will be injured for some big game in the future, so we need to see what life is like without DC.
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Post by greengold35 on Jan 21, 2023 17:37:54 GMT
Anyone know Seanie’s, O’Brien’s and Geaney’s injury status? Geaney & O’Brien 4/5 weeks away, not sure on Seanie.
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