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Post by richard00 on Oct 3, 2022 10:08:15 GMT
A lot of names mentioned for the job with Wayne Quillinan being the most dominant would love to see him get it
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 3, 2022 14:01:41 GMT
You would? Elaborate.
I think the defensive football usually played by stacks is fairly poor to watch.
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 3, 2022 14:18:28 GMT
A lot of names mentioned for the job with Wayne Quillinan being the most dominant would love to see him get it Few things that could be an issue. As has been said his style is fine for senior players who are together for a few years but would be hard to implement at underage imo. Club success also isn't a sure thing when it comes to underage county. For many of the same reasons as above. Pat O Driscoll won back to back All Irelands with Ardfert but struggled with the Kerry minors after that. |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 3, 2022 15:26:42 GMT
Pat got a raw deal in fairness.
He got the bullet after we lost to Tipp as it was seen as an embarrassment, only for the same Tipp team to go on and win the all Ireland.
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Post by richard00 on Oct 3, 2022 18:42:53 GMT
A lot of names mentioned for the job with Wayne Quillinan being the most dominant would love to see him get it Few things that could be an issue. As has been said his style is fine for senior players who are together for a few years but would be hard to implement at underage imo. Club success also isn't a sure thing when it comes to underage county. For many of the same reasons as above. Pat O Driscoll won back to back All Irelands with Ardfert but struggled with the Kerry minors after that. Pat was involved when underage structures and development squads weren’t have as strong as they are know and there was no where near as much preparation put into our players from u14 up. I have no doubt if Pat was involved in the last 4 years that we’d have another few minor all irelands won |
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Post by kerrysouth on Oct 4, 2022 0:45:58 GMT
Whoever gets the job I wish them well personally I would like to see South Kerry man Peter Keane get the job as he is best qualified and his teams would play an attractive attacking brand of football which regardless of success all Kerry supporters at this age level want to see
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Post by homerj on Oct 4, 2022 9:08:05 GMT
Pat got a raw deal in fairness. He got the bullet after we lost to Tipp as it was seen as an embarrassment, only for the same Tipp team to go on and win the all Ireland. didnt they throw away a huge lead in that game? kerry, cork and tipp have reached 10 all ireland finals combined since 2010 so chances are, who ever does best in Munster, normally at least gets to a final. losing to Tipp that year, in those circumstance, was a disaster. i assume he was also manager in 2010 which was another, very very poor campaign??? if so, they scraped by Tipp, lost to Cork and Tyrone (badly) so over those 2 years, it was wins against Tipp, Limerick and Waterford with 3 defeats. a 50% winning rate against the counties faced. if the manager who ever it is for the next 2 years, only wins half their games and not one big game, they wont get their renewal - just look at the last two years and how ruthless it is! |
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 4, 2022 9:49:20 GMT
Whoever gets the job I wish them well personally I would like to see South Kerry man Peter Keane get the job as he is best qualified and his teams would play an attractive attacking brand of football which regardless of success all Kerry supporters at this age level want to see His record speaks for itself. One reason he might not get it is if they wanted to bring on new younger men as potential managers of the future |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 4, 2022 12:08:42 GMT
Pat got a raw deal in fairness. He got the bullet after we lost to Tipp as it was seen as an embarrassment, only for the same Tipp team to go on and win the all Ireland. didnt they throw away a huge lead in that game? kerry, cork and tipp have reached 10 all ireland finals combined since 2010 so chances are, who ever does best in Munster, normally at least gets to a final. losing to Tipp that year, in those circumstance, was a disaster. i assume he was also manager in 2010 which was another, very very poor campaign??? if so, they scraped by Tipp, lost to Cork and Tyrone (badly) so over those 2 years, it was wins against Tipp, Limerick and Waterford with 3 defeats. a 50% winning rate against the counties faced. if the manager who ever it is for the next 2 years, only wins half their games and not one big game, they wont get their renewal - just look at the last two years and how ruthless it is! They did throw away a big lead alright, if you look back at the 2010 team it was very poor. I think Pat is a good manager and it’s very rare that I give praise to an ardfert man, as mick will attest to. I think Pat had and might still have more to offer to Kerry |
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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 4, 2022 14:19:09 GMT
I have always been of the belief that underage football is a stepping stone both on and off the field for up and coming players and coaches can test or put themselves on the shop window for future ventures.
There was a highly respected consortium that applied along with Jack for the senior role ideally, i would prefer a few of these to apply for the minor position to ascertain capabilities and gain experience.
Failing this, as someone suggested above, I too would have no issue with PK. I think he was a very unlucky general, the gods def did not smile upon him.
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Post by pillar on Oct 4, 2022 17:24:16 GMT
Whoever gets the job I wish them well personally I would like to see South Kerry man Peter Keane get the job as he is best qualified and his teams would play an attractive attacking brand of football which regardless of success all Kerry supporters at this age level want to see Great call, hope he'd have the enthusiasm for it considering how his last job finished and how some supporters treated him. |
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Post by mossie on Oct 4, 2022 23:56:29 GMT
I have always been of the belief that underage football is a stepping stone both on and off the field for up and coming players and coaches can test or put themselves on the shop window for future ventures. There was a highly respected consortium that applied along with Jack for the senior role ideally, i would prefer a few of these to apply for the minor position to ascertain capabilities and gain experience. Failing this, as someone suggested above, I too would have no issue with PK. I think he was a very unlucky general, the gods def did not smile upon him. I agree we need to blood new potential senior managers through the minor and under 20 management Peter Keane working beside the new minor manager as a mentor be ideal |
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Post by richard00 on Oct 8, 2022 21:38:49 GMT
Management of Wayne Quillinan, David Heasman and Seamus O Dowd all but confirmed as minor management for 2023 different rumours of who the manager is some have mentioned now that it is Seamus O Dowd
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 9, 2022 7:18:42 GMT
Management of Wayne Quillinan, David Heasman and Seamus O Dowd all but confirmed as minor management for 2023 different rumours of who the manager is some have mentioned now that it is Seamus O Dowd I’ll point you back to my first comment on this thread about stacks football and then to the match last night as reasons why I think that the management is a bit underwhelming. Best of luck to them and hopefully they can be a success |
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Post by teamplayer on Oct 9, 2022 7:31:55 GMT
Management of Wayne Quillinan, David Heasman and Seamus O Dowd all but confirmed as minor management for 2023 different rumours of who the manager is some have mentioned now that it is Seamus O Dowd Think it's a backward step selecting a very defensive Minor manager like Wayne. We had that last year and didn't work. That style of football doesn't work for Kerry teams. There is a massive talent of young players both in South and North kerry at present for the management team to choose from and hopefully these players will get their chance to shine Best of luck to the bew management team for 2023 |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Oct 9, 2022 14:23:34 GMT
Very easy for managers to be labelled defensive. A good manager will have a few different ways of playing. I think Paddy Tally was labelled as a defensive coach once upon a time.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 9, 2022 14:45:28 GMT
Very easy for managers to be labelled defensive. A good manager will have a few different ways of playing. I think Paddy Tally was labelled as a defensive coach once upon a time. That’s true but all we have at the moment to back up our opinions that he’s a defensive coach are the facts He might be anything, he might invent a new attacking way of playing that heralds a dawn of Kerry dominance but there’s no evidence of that thus far |
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Post by taggert on Oct 9, 2022 16:47:39 GMT
The absence of multiple free scoring, elusive and consistently threatening forwards of the calibre of Laide, McEvoy, Moynihan and Sheehy surely dictated the defensive approach which clearly suited the players at his disposal - hard running, aggressive and largely defensive minded.
Winning 3 club championships on the spin and one county championship, was an end which justified the means - I would have thought.
For Kerry minors, he will have the pick of the best forwards in the county - a very different proposition. He's not your cup of tea right now of course. Time will tell whether he can change your opinion.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Oct 9, 2022 16:57:45 GMT
He’s managed Stacks for 8 years and under him they’ve always played negative football. That would lead me to think that is his style of football. I’m surprised Pat the Bag has chosen him to manage this age group based off watching Stacks play. Apparently he impressed in his interview last week, surely he told them that he plans to play attacking, front foot football. I’d have more faith in him as a coach along with a manger who has an attacking philosophy (similar to Tally with Jack O’Connor) but hopefully it works out. Does anyone know who else did an interview?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 9, 2022 17:25:15 GMT
He’s managed Stacks for 8 years and under him they’ve always played negative football. That would lead me to think that is his style of football. I’m surprised Pat the Bag has chosen him to manage this age group based off watching Stacks play. Apparently he impressed in his interview last week, surely he told them that he plans to play attacking, front foot football. I’d have more faith in him as a coach along with a manger who has an attacking philosophy (similar to Tally with Jack O’Connor) but hopefully it works out. Does anyone know who else did an interview? I’d have give it to Quirke and kept him as a senior selector aswell Wayne as a coach makes sense tho |
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Post by southward on Oct 9, 2022 17:50:33 GMT
Irrespective of the result, the minor and U20/21 has always been refreshing to watch from a skill/entertainment point of view. At least until this year anyway and you hoped that this was an aberration. However, if Wayne is going to turn the minors into mini-Stacks, it's not going to go down well.
Someone ironic that he gets a county gig on the back of what has possibly been Stacks' worst season under him.
But look, good luck to him anyway.
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Post by mossie on Oct 9, 2022 20:23:54 GMT
Quillinan did remarkably well with Stacks in my opinion
He may well adopt a different approach with a county minor side so lets see
also, has Padraig Corcoran ever managed a kerry team, he is doing well with Dingle
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Post by greengold35 on Oct 9, 2022 20:43:51 GMT
Wayne seems like an honest fella who has given great time to his club. His appointment to this position is disappointing in my opinion. His stacks team play a very negative but effective style of play that is not in keeping with Kerry’s style of football. Many good promising young players like Armen Heinrich & young Quilter appear over coached to where they have little confidence in playing good football. Hopefully he has a good coach with him and play a more traditional style kerry football with these young lads. Good luck to him. The defensive approach alluded to by many posters is reinforced by the positioning of Heinrich & Conor Horan - neither is a wing forward, both played as half backs all through their under age careers - when somebody like Jordan Kissane was available, he was largely ignored in favour of those mentioned. |
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Post by kerrysouth on Oct 10, 2022 7:19:04 GMT
Best of luck to the new Kerry minor manager .I hope his approach is more positive than what we have seen from the previous management .The fact he has a new management team with no link to previous is a positive start in itself.He seems to be a positive guy and this should ensure that the players will enjoy the set up .Best of luck to all involved in what is probably the last year of this competition.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 10, 2022 9:01:33 GMT
Irrespective of the result, the minor and U20/21 has always been refreshing to watch from a skill/entertainment point of view. At least until this year anyway and you hoped that this was an aberration. However, if Wayne is going to turn the minors into mini-Stacks, it's not going to go down well. Someone ironic that he gets a county gig on the back of what has possibly been Stacks' worst season under him. But look, good luck to him anyway. ah ...he might turn out great like Paddy Tally did...remember the doom and alarm when he came on board. |
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Post by southward on Oct 10, 2022 9:21:24 GMT
Irrespective of the result, the minor and U20/21 has always been refreshing to watch from a skill/entertainment point of view. At least until this year anyway and you hoped that this was an aberration. However, if Wayne is going to turn the minors into mini-Stacks, it's not going to go down well. Someone ironic that he gets a county gig on the back of what has possibly been Stacks' worst season under him. But look, good luck to him anyway. ah ...he might turn out great like Paddy Tally did...remember the doom and alarm when he came on board. Yeah, hopefully. He's the man now anyway so we'll get behind him. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 10, 2022 9:42:23 GMT
ah ...he might turn out great like Paddy Tally did...remember the doom and alarm when he came on board. Yeah, hopefully. He's the man now anyway so we'll get behind him. That's exactly it, best of luck to him and his backroom team .. lets see how it unfolds and not jump the gun. |
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Post by sayitasiseeit on Oct 10, 2022 10:55:28 GMT
Quinlinan was clearly the stand out candidate on paper. He’s helped out with development squads in the past. He won 3 club and one county championship. Very hard not to give him a go based on those facts. His biggest challenge is getting used to dealing with boys as opposed to senior men. Best of luck to him
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Post by onlykerry on Oct 10, 2022 14:18:14 GMT
Quinlinan was clearly the stand out candidate on paper. He’s helped out with development squads in the past. He won 3 club and one county championship. Very hard not to give him a go based on those facts. His biggest challenge is getting used to dealing with boys as opposed to senior men. Best of luck to him Did WQ not get the senior job at Stacks off the back of his work with the Stacks minors - if memory serves me right he did an excellent job at minor level with a squad that had not been serial winners at underage level previously (u16/14 etc). The minors responded well to his management style. Can understand the reservations based on the Stacks seniors style of play but that was somewhat dictated by the players at his disposal. |
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Post by crokes86 on Oct 11, 2022 14:16:02 GMT
He’ll have a strong panel next year to pick from
Goalies
James Hoare Jamie Casey Larry Nolan
Backs
David Mulvihill Shane Clifford Gearoid Evans
Jamie Moynihan Keelan O’Shea Ben Murphy
Evan Brennan Sean Brosnan Conor Egan
Shane Stack Peter Doyle Tadhg O’Sullivan Oisin Fleming
Midfield
Evan Boyle Padraig Moynihan Keelan Best Dan Kirby
Forwards
Darragh O’Keefe Ruairi Brosnan Oisin Healy Daire Hogan Paddy Lane Dara Clifford Cian MacGearailt Tomas Kennedy Ronan Carroll Niall O’Brien Kian Downey Cian Kennedy Sean O’Cuinn Liam Cooper
Conor Sweeney Joe McCarthy Mike Horan Jack O’Donoghue
Plenty options
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