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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 1, 2022 19:55:18 GMT
Only young lads.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 1, 2022 19:59:18 GMT
Cork were too bad to be true 3 weeks ago - they got the run on us in the first half & their goal was fortuitous- thought we still had a chance 1-10 to 0-07 when we kicked a score able free wide but the red card cost us - similar incident involving the Cork midfielder went unpunished but we gave ourselves a mountain to climb. The back door & Tyrone beckons!
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 1, 2022 20:08:54 GMT
Cork were great in fairness. They had their plan and it worked. They defense was crowded and tenacious and there seemed to be acres for them to run into when they turned the ball over. They kicked some great long range points too and took their goals well.
I suppose Tyrone will set up like Cork did and the same thing will happen again.
Strange to see Paddy Lane taken off. He didnt look injured.
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Post by ciarraimick on Jun 1, 2022 20:10:33 GMT
just as I feared.I admit I was nt expecting a trimming but I was wary of Cork.This happerns a lot at underage and that's why I mentioned it before game.We detroy them and now they destroy us.No reason why we cant bounce back and win the all Ireland.Thats underage football.Our 5 in a row team were very lucky to beat Cork on a few occasions and in 19 we beat them twice but they won all Ireland.Might be a good lesson for the team once the beating does nt make them drop the heads.Betting is not allowed at minor grade for a few years now but I did nt back a minor game for over 25 years due to the sheer uncertainty of it all.Having said that its very frustrating to watch your team being beaten so easily by a team you destroyed previously.Anyway hope they regroup now and give it a good lash.
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Post by ciarraimick on Jun 1, 2022 20:12:30 GMT
A proverbial banana skin if ever there was one tonight. Cork can't be as poor again and it might be hard for 16 and 17 year old kids not to be complacent only 3 weeks after an easy win in the last game. Yes alas you were right Buck |
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Post by veteran on Jun 1, 2022 20:13:49 GMT
After the Tralee game I felt the Cork team was one of the worst I had seen representing them at that grade. The transformation was so great one wonders if the wool was pulled over our eyes. Was their attitude that night , if we are beaten here we will get an extra game and that will help us when the Munster title is at stake.
Cork were brilliant all through. How wonderful it is , at any grade , to see players kicking long range points . That is what won the game for them. The goals were the icing on the cake.
Kerry were lifeless and tentative and perhaps nervous in the first half. In fairness some of them played with a lot of spirit in the second half but the game had been decided by then and of course the sending off compounded their misery.
It will be very difficult to heal the scars before the backdoor game.
The sending off presumably was occasioned by retaliation for a striking offence by a Cork player shortly before hand, It did not change the result , merely made Cork”s task easier. Not sure how the first striking offence was missed by the linesman.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 1, 2022 20:14:06 GMT
Cork were too bad to be true 3 weeks ago - they got the run on us in the first half & their goal was fortuitous- thought we still had a chance 1-10 to 0-07 when we kicked a score able free wide but the red card cost us - similar incident involving the Cork midfielder went unpunished but we gave ourselves a mountain to climb. The back door & Tyrone beckons! Our straight red looked a tad on the harsh considering the slap the Cork midfielder got away unpunished. Still regardless of numerical disadvantage, we were miles off the pace and were poor poor. |
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Post by mike70 on Jun 1, 2022 20:52:09 GMT
Lads although we won the Tralee game in a canter, I felt we were pretty poor that night in a lot of things we did, overall it was a woeful game, just that cork were more woeful.
Cork deserved winners tonight , they had many good performances tonight, hard to pick any major contribution from any Kerry players, unfortunately the sending off was correct, but I don’t think it dictated the result, if any thing it gave us a bit of a drive on. Anyway not to be, but hope we learn and come out next day with a better performance, think we are still struggling to find our best 15.
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Post by taggert on Jun 1, 2022 20:59:44 GMT
After the Tralee game I felt the Cork team was one of the worst I had seen representing them at that grade. The transformation was so great one wonders if the wool was pulled over our eyes. Was their attitude that night , if we are beaten here we will get an extra game and that will help us when the Munster title is at stake. Cork were brilliant all through. How wonderful it is , at any grade , to see players kicking long range points . That is what won the game for them. The goals were the icing on the cake. Kerry were lifeless and tentative and perhaps nervous in the first half. In fairness some of them played with a lot of spirit in the second half but the game had been decided by then and of course the sending off compounded their misery. It will be very difficult to heal the scars before the backdoor game. The sending off presumably was occasioned by retaliation for a striking offence by a Cork player shortly before hand, It did not change the result , merely made Cork”s task easier. Not sure how the first striking offence was missed by the linesman. I didn't see the first game but I felt the same about Kerry tonight - one of the poorest I've seen at this grade. Wiped out in the middle 8 and absolutely bereft of ideas against the mass defence. As great as Cork were, Kerry were absolutely pathetic. |
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 1, 2022 21:14:44 GMT
Tyrone to yet again finally sink another Kerry underage team? You can be sure of it.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 1, 2022 21:17:15 GMT
Tyrone to yet again finally sink another Kerry underage team? You can be sure of it. Yes, unfort they have the Indian Sign over us |
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 1, 2022 21:24:35 GMT
Tyrone to yet again finally sink another Kerry underage team? You can be sure of it. Games at this level are so unpredictable- the difference from 3weeks ago couldn’t be more stark. There was little between Derry/Tyrone in the Ulster final ( 4-8 to 0-16) with Tyrone’s 4th goal coming in injury time - if some of the Kerry absentees are available still think we have a good shout. |
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Post by fitz on Jun 1, 2022 21:49:28 GMT
Tyrone to yet again finally sink another Kerry underage team? You can be sure of it. Yes, unfort they have the Indian Sign over us Really? At minor or in general? Kerry beat Tyrone in Championship 3 times in a row in the noughteens 2012, Killarney, 2015 Croker, 2019 Croker…both semis |
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 2, 2022 9:16:42 GMT
When we beat Tyrone we tend to beat them well, however we have left several tight games go against them at all levels. Don't agree they have a hoodoo on us but they tend to gain confidence when the door is left ajar.
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Post by veteran on Jun 2, 2022 10:45:33 GMT
I am not sure what our record is against Tyrone at underage level in the past 10/20 years. They beat us at u20 level this year but when those teams met at minor level a couple of years previously Kerry won.
Looking at television it is very difficult to see who is playing where. Eddie Healy starred at midfield in Tralee but was picked at right half back for last night’s game. In fairness to him he got on a lot of ball where ever he was playIng. Jack Clifford came out to midfield in Tralee and was a dominant figure. Not sure where he limed out last night but featured only sporadically. . Was anybody from here at the match so that we could have a better insight into the mauling that took place.
It will be a remarkable managerial performance if they can turn this around against a county like Tyrone. I wonder will any of our injured payers be available ?
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 2, 2022 10:55:58 GMT
I am not sure what our record is against Tyrone at underage level in the past 10/20 years. They beat us at u20 level this year but when those teams met at minor level a couple of years previously Kerry won. Looking at television it is very difficult to see who is playing where. Eddie Healy starred at midfield in Tralee but was picked at right half back for last night’s game. In fairness to him he got on a lot of ball where ever he was playIng. Jack Clifford came out to midfield in Tralee and was a dominant figure. Not sure where he limed out last night but featured only sporadically. . Was anybody from here at the match so that we could have a better insight into the mauling that took place. It will be a remarkable managerial performance if they can turn this around against a county like Tyrone. I wonder will any of our injured payers be available ? At the start of the game Healy (5) & Murphy (7) lined up for the throw in - as far as I could see both played midfield for the full game. As for our injuries, both Ian O’Sullivan & Evan Boyle were introduced and as far as I know Odhran Ferris should be ok for Tyrone game - I have no news on Browne from Stacks but given that O’Connor’s red card rules him out, Brownes return would be timely. |
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Post by hatchetman on Jun 2, 2022 11:33:37 GMT
There was little between Derry/Tyrone in the Ulster final ( 4-8 to 0-16) with Tyrone’s 4th goal coming in injury time - As Peter Keane would say, if you took the goals out of it, Derry hammered Tyrone by double scores. |
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Post by Jo90 on Jun 2, 2022 11:48:16 GMT
I am not sure what our record is against Tyrone at underage level in the past 10/20 years. They beat us at u20 level this year but when those teams met at minor level a couple of years previously Kerry won. Looking at television it is very difficult to see who is playing where. Eddie Healy starred at midfield in Tralee but was picked at right half back for last night’s game. In fairness to him he got on a lot of ball where ever he was playIng. Jack Clifford came out to midfield in Tralee and was a dominant figure. Not sure where he limed out last night but featured only sporadically. . Was anybody from here at the match so that we could have a better insight into the mauling that took place. It will be a remarkable managerial performance if they can turn this around against a county like Tyrone. I wonder will any of our injured payers be available ? At the start of the game Healy (5) & Murphy (7) lined up for the throw in - as far as I could see both played midfield for the full game. As for our injuries, both Ian O’Sullivan & Evan Boyle were introduced and as far as I know Odhran Ferris should be ok for Tyrone game - I have no news on Browne from Stacks but given that O’Connor’s red card rules him out, Brownes return would be timely. Can they hire the same people Tyrone use to appeal the red card? |
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Post by veteran on Jun 2, 2022 11:59:30 GMT
I am not sure what our record is against Tyrone at underage level in the past 10/20 years. They beat us at u20 level this year but when those teams met at minor level a couple of years previously Kerry won. Looking at television it is very difficult to see who is playing where. Eddie Healy starred at midfield in Tralee but was picked at right half back for last night’s game. In fairness to him he got on a lot of ball where ever he was playIng. Jack Clifford came out to midfield in Tralee and was a dominant figure. Not sure where he limed out last night but featured only sporadically. . Was anybody from here at the match so that we could have a better insight into the mauling that took place. It will be a remarkable managerial performance if they can turn this around against a county like Tyrone. I wonder will any of our injured payers be available ? At the start of the game Healy (5) & Murphy (7) lined up for the throw in - as far as I could see both played midfield for the full game. As for our injuries, both Ian O’Sullivan & Evan Boyle were introduced and as far as I know Odhran Ferris should be ok for Tyrone game - I have no news on Browne from Stacks but given that O’Connor’s red card rules him out, Brownes return would be timely. Thanks for that greengold 35. Ruairí Burke , who was very good in Tralee , went off injured that night. I wonder what his situation is ? Referring to the red card. If the Kerry lad , who had got the deliberate slap in the face, went down clutching his face I wonder would the Cork lad have got a red card rather having the incident ignored, The Cork man , the same man who had delivered the slap in the face, made sure he went down when he got his blow and hence the red card for Darragh O’Connor . Very likely the outcome would be the same but it makes you wonder does simulation pay? |
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Post by dubaigaa2022 on Jun 2, 2022 21:03:35 GMT
Cork were great in fairness. They had their plan and it worked. They defense was crowded and tenacious and there seemed to be acres for them to run into when they turned the ball over. They kicked some great long range points too and took their goals well. I suppose Tyrone will set up like Cork did and the same thing will happen again. Strange to see Paddy Lane taken off. He didnt look injured. I don’t know if we were watching the same game Mick!! Paddy scored a point in the first minutes and was well beaten all night - ditto with our captain - Kerry seem to have gone with what in the game are classified as “finishers’ in the FF line rather than ball winners - I saw fierce similarities in both the U20’s and the minor team last night - no ball winner inside the 40 - we have 2 scoring forwards - none them able to win a dirty ball - and when the game tightens as it did last night and will do as the competition goes on . The team fails .. Brown from Stacks is a huge loss and hopefully he will be back for the next game .. I don’t think James Costello will have any fear of Tyrone - he beat them in 2019 .. so know what has to be done .. We need to get a ball winner into the FF line .. and get a few forwards of size into the team - I know there is a huge clamour around Paddy Lane and he is underage again next year but just not up to it against the physically stronger guys a year older and we will need power against Tyrone .. |
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Post by mossie on Jun 2, 2022 21:08:13 GMT
Yes, unfort they have the Indian Sign over us Really? At minor or in general? Kerry beat Tyrone in Championship 3 times in a row in the noughteens 2012, Killarney, 2015 Croker, 2019 Croker…both semis indeed Fitz, everyone seems to forget those wins for Kerry and of course 1986 at underage though, have we beaten them? |
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Post by dubaigaa2022 on Jun 2, 2022 21:18:08 GMT
Really? At minor or in general? Kerry beat Tyrone in Championship 3 times in a row in the noughteens 2012, Killarney, 2015 Croker, 2019 Croker…both semis indeed Fitz, everyone seems to forget those wins for Kerry and of course 1986 at underage though, have we beaten them? Minors beat them in 2019 under James Costello |
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Post by veteran on Jun 2, 2022 21:36:52 GMT
Paddy Lane.not up to it against physically stronger guys? Interestingly, He was marked by the same player in Tralee as last night and he was certainly well able for it that night . It might be a little premature to be writing this lad off, as young as he is .
I agree that we could do with more ball winners in the forward line. Perhaps, if some of our injured players return Jack Clifford could be played inside. He is a strong game lad and well able to field a ball.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jun 2, 2022 21:52:41 GMT
I wouldn’t lay much fault with Lane or Dillon. The problem was the game plan was completely based around getting the ball into those 2. Cork knew this after the game in Tralee and put a sweeper in front of them blocking off the option of nice kick passes into them. Once Cork had that sniffed out, Kerry looked like they didn’t know what to do which is the management’s fault. The team had only one style of play and no back up plan. Hopefully work is done on this in training and also the few players returning from injuries will make a difference so I’m hopeful we can beat Tyrone.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 2, 2022 22:14:51 GMT
Thats an old one alright...take off the corner forward when the real problems are further out the field.
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Post by kerryboyo on Jun 2, 2022 23:05:45 GMT
forward line played a huge part on opposition kickouts they got out too easy!
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Post by dubaigaa2022 on Jun 2, 2022 23:06:48 GMT
Paddy Lane.not up to it against physically stronger guys? Interestingly, He was marked by the same player in Tralee as last night and he was certainly well able for it that night . It might be a little premature to be writing this lad off, as young as he is . I agree that we could do with more ball winners in the forward line. Perhaps, if some of our injured players return Jack Clifford could be played inside. He is a strong game lad and well able to field a ball. I am definitely not writing off Paddy Lane, but we have seen so many minors of his size etc but when it comes to the big boy games - 2 MF’r’s played deep - 10 and 12 dropping back - just no Rio - power required - saw him vs Keel/Lisrty in the league semi insp And again in the final - we’ll held both games - he may very well turn in to a good player but hopefully he grows 5 or 6 inches - as he’s still only 16 .. but at this stage - maybe when the game opens up - last 20 minutes would suit better |
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Post by goforit2 on Jun 3, 2022 6:50:00 GMT
I expect a big improvement the next day. These are all very good players and will be hurting. I also think Odhran Ferris will add to ball winning ability and bring energy.
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Post by veteran on Jun 3, 2022 8:25:58 GMT
Thats an old one alright...take off the corner forward when the real problems are further out the field. Tactic number one since time began. |
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Post by Jo90 on Jun 3, 2022 9:50:22 GMT
If the current minor system prevails, then with the home-away arrangement between Cork and Kerry, won't that mean Kerry will face Cork at home in the semi-final every year and Cork then get home advantage in the final?
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