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Post by Mickmack on Feb 6, 2022 19:52:52 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 6, 2022 20:23:41 GMT
Just after that there was a clothes line tackle by a Tyrone man...maybe Meyler....and a yellow was given.
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Post by john4 on Feb 6, 2022 20:24:27 GMT
David Gough blew his whistle for the initial free in this clip on 18 seconds. The row ensued. He didn't blow his whistle again till the 59th second. He contributed to this mess. He's the referee not an observer.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 6, 2022 20:50:18 GMT
Kildare are the biggest winners are that series of red cards,
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 6, 2022 21:03:17 GMT
Without knowing the ins and outs of the incident at all, I was only last year saying that the Tyrone side's behaviour had improved an awful lot.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 6, 2022 21:04:58 GMT
We all despair when a ref cops out and issues two yellows where one guy is the clear culprit.
So i suppose its refreshing to see a ref singling out those responsible even if its 4 to 1 in a melee which was very strange.
David Gough loves the limelight...we all know that. He will get plenty of that on the Sunday show later.
There was a few headlocks and pushing and shoving but no punch thrown as far as i can see so it was hard to spot red card offences such as striking....at least i didnt spot any. I'd say there will be appeals.
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Post by dc84 on Feb 6, 2022 21:06:48 GMT
Looked fair enough to me didnt see any digs but 3 or 4 Tyrone lads caught people around the neck and through them to the ground. That's football says Mr.Logan....
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Post by thehermit on Feb 6, 2022 21:18:52 GMT
Armagh look the real deal (then again I often remember Galway looking majestic in the League only to not turn up in the Championship).
How soon after we play them on the 20th March is the Ulster Championship starting? Would they have half an eye on the latter by that stage I wonder?
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 6, 2022 22:06:30 GMT
Armagh look the real deal (then again I often remember Galway looking majestic in the League only to not turn up in the Championship). How soon after we play them on the 20th March is the Ulster Championship starting? Would they have half an eye on the latter by that stage I wonder? 24th April is when Armagh play Donegal in Ballybofey. If Armagh reach the league final it would be on 10th April so hard to see Armagh wanting to reach the league final
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Post by thehermit on Feb 6, 2022 22:11:06 GMT
Cheers Mick, yes I assume all the Ulster teams will show some disinterest for the last week or two of the League. We might get another big win against Tyrone in the last game.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 7, 2022 16:47:49 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 7, 2022 16:50:20 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 15, 2022 14:45:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2022 20:14:05 GMT
Eamon Fitzmaurice is earning that pay check tonight,
He's very pro dublin.
As for Gough, he seems to be giving a lot to the dubs, he's keeping the the dubs in it and his idea bringing the ball forward about 20 meters instead of 10 for dicent.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 19, 2022 21:13:01 GMT
Dublin’s decision making was very poor again tonight, I counted five or six aimless balls into their forwards, that wouldn’t happen under previous watch. At one stage in the first quarter, Dublin has a free and the ball was booted high and wild into the forwards,
Great win for Mayo but poor poor display by the Dublin men.
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Post by taggert on Feb 19, 2022 21:22:30 GMT
Dublin’s decision making was very poor again tonight, I counted five or six aimless balls into their forwards, that wouldn’t happen under previous watch. At one stage in the first quarter, Dublin has a free and the ball was booted high and wild into the forwards, Great win for Mayo but poor poor display by the Dublin men. Davy Byrne was terrible at the back but what was worse was he coughed up 4 decent offensive possessions and positions (2 in each half). From being ultra protected and seeing very little possession, players like Byrne are now being asked to do a lot more and are being exposed for the significantly lower calibre players that they are.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 19, 2022 21:36:32 GMT
How much more evidence do you need.
Division 2 awaits... Happy days.
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Post by Jo90 on Feb 19, 2022 22:00:59 GMT
I wouldn't be writing Dublin off yet, Kerry lost their first 3 league games in 2014...
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 19, 2022 22:11:40 GMT
I wouldn't be writing Dublin off yet, Kerry lost their first 3 league games in 2014... The lads bar Con are 30+ to come back. Jesus lads time to start forgetting about the boggey man.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 19, 2022 22:15:15 GMT
Dublin will still have a big say in the championship. Plenty of top players to come back. On Mayo who were better team by far tonight but yet did nt out score Dubs by much. I feel sorry a bit for Dessie. I think people giving Jim Gavin too much credit. The cracks were there in 19 under Gavin and the lateral boring play had set in under Gavin. Dessie squeezed another Sam that maybe Gavin would nt have won. Thought Horan was very smart on sideline taling off Ruane and Ó Donoghue late who were both on yellow cards. Big Aidan did well when coming on. I still don't think Dubs will be relegated and I expect them to be in all ireland semi this year. Of course like every team depending on injuries. If anything happened Fento Kilkenny or James Mccarthy they could be in dire straits. Now maybe Mayo s win puts our win in perspective. We were at home while both they and Armagh away. I still can't get Newbridge out of my head. Tomorrow will be another bad day weather wise so let's see how we do. Think you might be around the Dubs a bit much. Objectively they are poor and a fee 30s year olds won't change that.
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Post by john4 on Feb 19, 2022 22:34:46 GMT
Dublin v Monaghan looking like it'll be a massive game for both teams. I can't see Kildare gathering enough points to survive so it looks like Dublin or Monaghan to go with them
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Post by fitz on Feb 19, 2022 22:45:32 GMT
Nothing of substance decided in February. McCaffrey and Mannion huge losses for Dublin They have gone back for sure but still won’t be easily beat in summertime
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Post by fitz on Feb 19, 2022 22:51:30 GMT
Dublin v Monaghan looking like it'll be a massive game for both teams. I can't see Kildare gathering enough points to survive so it looks like Dublin or Monaghan to go with them The Kildare game v Tyrone will be interesting with the four suspensions
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 19, 2022 22:51:42 GMT
As the game went on the subs made Mayo stronger and Dublin weaker.
How times have changed.
Lee Gannon looks like he will make it.
They took off Ross ? their corner forward just after half time. Very strange...he was good.
Who are the top 3 teams now?
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 19, 2022 23:12:49 GMT
I would tend to disagree with those who still think Dublin will get it right and be there or thereabouts come championship. Last year in the championship they showed zero form and they couldn’t fix it and that has continued on into this year. It’s not just a case of a slow start to the season. They are looking weak at the back and their attacking play is poor. Davy Byrne and Niall Scully have had terrible league campaigns to date and Fenton isn’t too far behind them. No new player looks to be at the level required. I don’t think Farrell is good enough to turn it around, to me it seems he’s a poor manager. Ross McGarry was one of their bright sparks tonight yet he takes him off. Many of his decisions make no sense.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 19, 2022 23:14:22 GMT
As the game went on the subs made Mayo stronger and Dublin weaker. How times have changed. Lee Gannon looks like he will make it. They took off Ross ? their corner forward just after half time. Very strange...he was good. Who are the top 3 teams now? You’d have to say Tyrone, Kerry and Mayo. Dublin and Armagh the next 2.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 19, 2022 23:17:22 GMT
“Just 16 of the players – nine from Dublin – who started the semi-final last August – were back in action at the throw-in.“
Wow, you could argue that Mayo had more of a weakened team out tonight than Dublin.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 19, 2022 23:20:56 GMT
Dubs only hope now is to put a shadow management in place but it wouldn't be the same and can you just imagine, would the Dublin based media slaughter them? Social media gurus out to make a name for themselves?
The talent is still there but Dessie's body language tell me for one that he is part of the problem, maybe the cause if it.
The first half was really entertaining and exciting, now is it my imagination or what but would one have expected Mayo to smell blood when the Dubs were visibly in trouble, and blow them away?
I've been watching GAA a while and I couldn't but acknowledge how well the media delivered the game - I picked up on a few things that might normally be a bit iffy, but no, a night to remember for me and Kerry weren't even playing. Yerra maybe 'tis the scoop of the black stuff I won off Hermit that has me in good form. Maybe I have a soft spot for Maigh Eo too - no matter what, they never didn't play traditional football and maybe tonight being no exception tickles my fancy and I hope Oisin Mullin is rewarded and the likes of Leroy, though not at our expense, and I know that doesn't makes sense but that's just how I feel.
Then again northie Dgal are more used to gale forces so hopefully my joy won't be short lived.
P.S. I hate to say it but my gut tells me that that the favourites to win Sam are Dooher and Logan, and Dublin are a prime example and proof that management are a big part of the team, on occasion more than 50% and maybe last night was one of those occasions. Look at it like this - if you swapped management teams around how differently would teams fare? Of course we can never know but it is a fair question - puts you thinking?
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 20, 2022 0:26:02 GMT
These were the two teams in December 2020 All Ireland Final
Cluxton is the big omission from Dublin and also Paul Mannion who was a sub.
David Clarke is gone too. Hennelly is playing well now but when the chips are down i have my doubts.
The championship team of 2022 will be similar enough to the 2020 teams as not that many new guys on either side have nailed down a jersey.
Mayo now have the better panel which is significant.
Dublin 1. Stephen Cluxton (Parnells — captain)
2. Michael Fitzsimons (Cuala) 3. Davy Byrne (Naomh Olaf) 4. Jonny Cooper (Na Fianna)
5. Eoin Murchan (Na Fianna) 6. John Small (Ballymun Kickhams) 7. Robbie McDaid (Ballyboden St Endas)
8. Brian Fenton (Raheny) 9. James McCarthy (Ballymun Kickhams)
10. Niall Scully (Templeogue Synge Street) 11. Ciarán Kilkenny (Castleknock) 12. Seán Bugler (St Oliver Plunkett’s/ER)
13. Paddy Small (Ballymun Kickhams) 14. Con O’Callaghan (Cuala) 15. Dean Rock (Ballymun Kickhams)
Mayo 1. David Clarke (Ballina Stephenites)
2. Chris Barrett (Clontarf, Dublin) 3. Oisín Mullin (Kilmaine) 4. Lee Keegan (Westport)
5. Patrick Durcan (Castlebar Mitchels) 6. Stephen Coen (Hollymount/Carramore) 7. Eoghan McLaughlin (Westport)
8. Conor Loftus (Crossmolina Deel Rovers) 9. Matthew Ruane (Breaffy)
10. Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore) 11. Ryan O’Donoghue (Belmullet) 12. Diarmuid O’Connor (Ballintubber)
13. Tommy Conroy (The Neale) 14. Aidan O’Shea (Breaffy — captain) 15. Cillian O’Connor (Ballintubber)
SUBS
Dublin 16. Evan Comerford (Ballymun Kickhams) 17. Colm Basquel (Ballyboden St-Enda’s) 18. Aaron Byrne (Na Fianna) 19. Cormac Costello (Whitehall Colmcille) 20. Brian Howard (Raheny) 21. Tom Lahiff (St Judes) 22. Eric Lowndes (St Peregrine’s) 23. Michael Darragh MacAuley (Ballyboden St-Enda’s) 24. Paul Mannion (Kilmacud Crokes) 25. Philip McMahon (Ballymun Kickhams) 26. Kevin McManamon (St Judes)
Mayo 16. Robert Hennelly (Breaffy) 17. Padraig O’Hora (Ballina Stephenites) 18. Michael Plunkett (Ballintubber) 19. Rory Brickenden (Westport) 20. Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunis) 21. Tom Parsons (Charlestown) 22. Jordan Flynn (Crossmolina) 23. Fergal Boland (Aghamore) 24. James Durcan (Castlebar Mitchels) 25. James Carr (Ardagh) 26. Darren Coen (Hollymount-Carramore).
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Post by The16thMan on Feb 20, 2022 0:27:50 GMT
Lads it's true Dublin aren't anywhere near the strength they had 2/3 years ago but they still have a fine team it might look something like this come Championship: 1) Comerford 2) Byrne 3) Cooper 4) Fitzsimons 5) Murchan 6) McCarthy 7) Small 8) Fenton 9) Howard 10) Scully 11) Kilkenny 12) Costello 13) Small 14) Con 15) Rock
It might not be the exact Championship team but thats the experience they have in that team and on their day they can match any team in the country.It has approx. 4 changes to the team that beat Kerry in 2019 Cluxton, McCaffrey, Mannion and MDMA out with Byrne, Comerford, Costello and P.Small coming in. Not exactly a completely different team but I do appreciate there are some key players from that team gone. They'll have 50,000 Dubs roaring them on later in the year and Dublin are like Kerry, they are suited to the dry hard pitch in the summer to suit their kicking style game. Running teams like Mayo and Tyrone are suited to the softer grounds because they carry the ball through the lines. The only problem Dublin have is their 5 subs are nowhere near the standard Kerry and Tyrone would have coming on. But Dublin will have a part to play yet, hopefully this is the year Kerry end the 11 year Championship hoodoo they've had over us. No matter what team Dublin have out in the summer it would be as sweet as it gets to beat Dublin in a packed Croke Park.
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