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Post by Corner Back on Jul 27, 2021 20:39:30 GMT
2009 Team 53% 2014 Team 10% 2021 Team 37% So the current team who have never won a Sam gets 4 times more than a team that have - I know it sounds crazy but I agree though not so sure of the 4. And 2009 x5 times? What will the popularity stakes look like at 5pm on 29th Aug? Where would Micko's boys be? Here's a guess, I am rating as opposed to guessing what others might say, ah just to start a row seeing as we are 3 weeks out from a game- Mickos 35% 2009 25% 2014 10% 2021 30% Now for the burning question - what will that look like at 5pm on 29th Aug 2021? And sure that might only be the beginning. Mickos boys wouldn't come close to beating the current side. Mainly because Mickos boys are in their 60's now!
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Post by southward on Jul 27, 2021 21:01:31 GMT
I think this tweet explains Kerry v Cork to a tee. Maybe because it's the only rivalry in sport where the underdog tribe has such a massive superiority complex?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 27, 2021 22:47:30 GMT
So the current team who have never won a Sam gets 4 times more than a team that have - I know it sounds crazy but I agree though not so sure of the 4. And 2009 x5 times? What will the popularity stakes look like at 5pm on 29th Aug? Where would Micko's boys be? Here's a guess, I am rating as opposed to guessing what others might say, ah just to start a row seeing as we are 3 weeks out from a game- Mickos 35% 2009 25% 2014 10% 2021 30% Now for the burning question - what will that look like at 5pm on 29th Aug 2021? And sure that might only be the beginning. Mickos boys wouldn't come close to beating the current side. Mainly because Mickos boys are in their 60's now! You're a messer! Anyway I'd be happy with my estimates, if Micko's boys had support and facilities of today then they'd sure be right up there with the best of 'em. PG and a few more were leaders but Micko's boys had 2/3 on every line.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jul 28, 2021 0:13:21 GMT
I expect David and Jack didn't expect Brian Hurley to get inside Jason on the end line. Jason didn't play as well as the previous 3 games True but a few others can say they should have done better starting with Paul Murphy who got turned over again in possession that led to that goal in the first place.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jul 28, 2021 0:39:44 GMT
I am beginning to worry about the increasing hype surrounding Kerry. The other teams, especially the Dubs , must be smiling gleefully. It should be remembered that Dublin are the champions and remain number one until dethroned. Absolutely right veteran! Surely we've learned enough lessons now to never look beyond the next match. I don't like this media hype train either, and I'd certainly fear Tyrone in a semi-final, especially if as I expect they win the Ulster title on Saturday. Not saying Monaghan would be an easy touch, but in my view Tyrone have the power and strength off the bench that could match us and won't be short of motivation. We can ignore the recent league game against Tyrone too for the pure codology from Tyrone that it was. This Saturday should make sobering viewing about the actual challenge facing Kerry coming down the tracks.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jul 28, 2021 2:31:56 GMT
I am beginning to worry about the increasing hype surrounding Kerry. The other teams, especially the Dubs , must be smiling gleefully. It should be remembered that Dublin are the champions and remain number one until dethroned. Absolutely right veteran! Surely we've learned enough lessons now to never look beyond the next match. I don't like this media hype train either, and I'd certainly fear Tyrone in a semi-final, especially if as I expect they win the Ulster title on Saturday. Not saying Monaghan would be an easy touch, but in my view Tyrone have the power and strength off the bench that could match us and won't be short of motivation. We can ignore the recent league game against Tyrone too for the pure codology from Tyrone that it was. This Saturday should make sobering viewing about the actual challenge facing Too true I work with a lot of Tyrone lads and there telling me emphatically that fitness wont be an issue for Tyrone they will more than match us in that Dept Which ever Ulster team wins we will get a right good test and any weakness will be exposed Kerry coming down the tracks.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jul 28, 2021 19:17:48 GMT
One thing that s freaky is if we failed to commission 2021 s best player until two years after he showed his worth then how many more are we overlooking Joe o Connor is another player different Mould to Paudie Clifford but nonetheless another live one that needs to be blodded soon in order to be useable this year in the heat of battle v Ulster teams and beyond
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 28, 2021 22:57:24 GMT
Paudie nearly single handedly kept EK in the championship in one of the early rounds last year. A huge tour de force so it's isn't like he has appeared out of nowhere.
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Post by brigid on Jul 29, 2021 9:49:31 GMT
Any update on Diarmuid O'Connor's injury? Hope he will be OK for the semi-final.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jul 29, 2021 11:18:46 GMT
Paudie nearly single handedly kept EK in the championship in one of the early rounds last year. A huge tour de force so it's isn't like he has appeared out of nowhere. It’s great that they finally copped the potential does that mean we’re possibly missing a few more gems out there ? Paudie will now be targeted possibly as much and more than David going forward but this will free up others to shine hopefully
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Post by dc84 on Jul 29, 2021 11:58:43 GMT
Paudie nearly single handedly kept EK in the championship in one of the early rounds last year. A huge tour de force so it's isn't like he has appeared out of nowhere. It’s great that they finally copped the potential does that mean we’re possibly missing a few more gems out there ? Paudie will now be targeted possibly as much and more than David going forward but this will free up others to shine hopefully We have a lot of lads to be minded now , I wouldn't like to be coming up with that plan ! 2 years ago it was Clifford, o shea and o'brien now add paudie and a rejeuventated Paul geaney and others. I think it was Veteran (Who else!) Called it earlier in the year with Geaney playing wf in all games in league has got him in peak condition and it looks like he is now being deployed in his natural environment closer to goal.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jul 29, 2021 15:51:08 GMT
Any update on Diarmuid O'Connor's injury? Hope he will be OK for the semi-final. Looked like a sprained ankle on TV in which case he should be fine in about two weeks
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 29, 2021 22:19:39 GMT
Éamonn Fitzmaurice:
When the Cork players and management eventually get the stomach to review the game, they will wonder how they only scored two points in the second and final quarters, and none in the third.
In many ways it was similar to the 2018 final in Páirc Uí Chaoimh where, after a great start, Cork similarly fell away. Was that down to Kerry or was it down to Cork? In truth, it was a mix of both, but it will make for painful viewing for the Cork group.
I was amazed with their kickout strategy, and I imagine this is something they will look at. They would obviously have studied the Kerry press and came with a plan to dismantle it. This plan involved going as long as possible to Ian Maguire, Brian Hartnett, and Ruairí Deane and trying to pick up the crumbs. In the 65th minute — with the game well over — the template worked for them when Maguire got through for a goal chance that he pulled wide, but other than that, it failed spectacularly.
Kerry won ball in the air through David Moran and they had more bodies around the breaks. This can happen, but what shocked me was the absence of a Plan B. They had no intermediate restart even though there were little pockets of space there. Shane Ryan kicked well in the first half when Cork pressed at times. Kerry showed them how to stretch the press. They got their corner-backs on the sideline and in the corner. This was either going to open up pockets centrally if the Cork corner-forward went too wide or, as happened most often, they gave up the kick to the corner. This got Kerry out and denied Cork the chance to build any momentum after a score.
Cork persisted with their strategy, even when Mark White came on at half-time, presumably for an injury to Martin. There were clearly times when players could have broken into space to occupy some of the Kerry bodies, but at no stage did they, as they all knew it was going long. Cork lost 11 out of 24 of their own long kickouts and conceded 2-4 directly from this. It is hard to understand how they did not have more variety or how players didn’t problem-solve on the field.
From a Kerry perspective, the players and management will be content. This was a match they would have circled in their calendars, but they will all look to park it up straight away today. The beauty of having three games under the belt is everyone is now championship sharp, with the players match fit and the management having also been tested early against both Tipperary and Cork. That sharpness in the decision-making process can’t be manufactured, and will stand to them for the remainder of the championship.
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