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Post by hurlingman on Sept 15, 2022 7:29:09 GMT
Lixnaw and Finuge are not at the level they were at in both codes a few years ago. It cant be done in the long run which is my basic point. How serious do Ballyduff take football. Maybe i am wrong but i have the impression that it is only taken seriously in winter at NK championship time when the hurling is over. Ardfert are trying to keep both codes going and are not great at either now. Ballyduff won the Junior football championship in 2019. That would have been during the intercounty hurling season. |
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 17, 2022 18:29:02 GMT
Seems there was controversy at the end of the Daugh Rathmore Junior game. Ref apparently took the score down wrong.
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 17, 2022 19:57:40 GMT
Crotta also won the U21 championship this evening. Will they be able to turn all this underage success into a senior title soon is the question.
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Post by thehermit on Sept 17, 2022 21:07:11 GMT
Crotta also won the U21 championship this evening. Will they be able to turn all this underage success into a senior title soon is the question. For God sake don't jink us 1968 is an eternity!!!
A great day for the parish, yeah look things have been going brilliant underage since the minors made the breakthrough in 2016.
But senior, as our history cruelly shows, is a whole other ball game. Still have PTSD over 2011 - what a few weeks that was, on hand to see an All Ireland and a County title thrown away 
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Post by fenit67 on Sept 18, 2022 13:22:00 GMT
Kilmoyley, Causeway, O'Dorney, Crotta, St.Brendan's, Parnell's, Lixnaw and St.Patrick's are hurling clubs. In some cases there are football teams nearby but they are hurling only and to say otherwise is disingeuous. Kenmare, Kilgarvan, Ballyduff, Dr.Crokes and Duagh are dual clubs. Ballyheigue offer football almost as an afterthought and Rathmore have given much needed further sustenance to hurling in East Kerry as have Firies at underage level in Mid-Kerry. There is a good level of duality to be found whether within the dual clubs or in areas occupied by a football and hurling club in proximity.
Kenmare have been a dual club for many years and although their fortunes wane thay have remained relevant and competitive. Ballyduff have maintained a good standard over the years but one would be in error in thinking that football could ever be the senior partner. Ardfert shares a similar experience with a county hurling title far outweighing any amount of footballing achiements. In recent years Kilgarvan, much like Newcestown in Cork, operate in both codes with almost identical squads; it is this that is untenable in the long run especially for a rural parish.
Having known many dual players from North Kerry I can tell you that hurling is king for them but they will always do their utmost for whichever football team they represent more especially if it is their own club.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 18, 2022 14:10:39 GMT
Crotta also won the U21 championship this evening. Will they be able to turn all this underage success into a senior title soon is the question. For God sake don't jink us 1968 is an eternity!!! A great day for the parish, yeah look things have been going brilliant underage since the minors made the breakthrough in 2016. But senior, as our history cruelly shows, is a whole other ball game. Still have PTSD over 2011 - what a few weeks that was, on hand to see an All Ireland and a County title thrown away Have Crotta not won a championship since 1968??? |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 18, 2022 14:15:44 GMT
Kilmoyley, Causeway, O'Dorney, Crotta, St.Brendan's, Parnell's, Lixnaw and St.Patrick's are hurling clubs. In some cases there are football teams nearby but they are hurling only and to say otherwise is disingeuous. Kenmare, Kilgarvan, Ballyduff, Dr.Crokes and Duagh are dual clubs. Ballyheigue offer football almost as an afterthought and Rathmore have given much needed further sustenance to hurling in East Kerry as have Firies at underage level in Mid-Kerry. There is a good level of duality to be found whether within the dual clubs or in areas occupied by a football and hurling club in proximity. Kenmare have been a dual club for many years and although their fortunes wane thay have remained relevant and competitive. Ballyduff have maintained a good standard over the years but one would be in error in thinking that football could ever be the senior partner. Ardfert shares a similar experience with a county hurling title far outweighing any amount of footballing achiements. In recent years Kilgarvan, much like Newcestown in Cork, operate in both codes with almost identical squads; it is this that is untenable in the long run especially for a rural parish. Having known many dual players from North Kerry I can tell you that hurling is king for them but they will always do their utmost for whichever football team they represent more especially if it is their own club. I can’t agree with you on that- lixnaw and at brendans are dual clubs. The football side may have different names but there’s a huge crossover in playing members and they are the exact same teams player wise at underage level. The only real deviation seems to be on the ardfert side when lads from other football clubs such as Churchill play hurling with Brendan’s and lads from other hurling clubs such as kilmoyley play football with ardfert. But they are a dual club in my eyes |
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 18, 2022 15:20:24 GMT
Kilmoyley, Causeway, O'Dorney, Crotta, St.Brendan's, Parnell's, Lixnaw and St.Patrick's are hurling clubs. In some cases there are football teams nearby but they are hurling only and to say otherwise is disingeuous. Kenmare, Kilgarvan, Ballyduff, Dr.Crokes and Duagh are dual clubs. Ballyheigue offer football almost as an afterthought and Rathmore have given much needed further sustenance to hurling in East Kerry as have Firies at underage level in Mid-Kerry. There is a good level of duality to be found whether within the dual clubs or in areas occupied by a football and hurling club in proximity. Kenmare have been a dual club for many years and although their fortunes wane thay have remained relevant and competitive. Ballyduff have maintained a good standard over the years but one would be in error in thinking that football could ever be the senior partner. Ardfert shares a similar experience with a county hurling title far outweighing any amount of footballing achiements. In recent years Kilgarvan, much like Newcestown in Cork, operate in both codes with almost identical squads; it is this that is untenable in the long run especially for a rural parish. Having known many dual players from North Kerry I can tell you that hurling is king for them but they will always do their utmost for whichever football team they represent more especially if it is their own club. I can’t agree with you on that- lixnaw and at brendans are dual clubs. The football side may have different names but there’s a huge crossover in playing members and they are the exact same teams player wise at underage level. The only real deviation seems to be on the ardfert side when lads from other football clubs such as Churchill play hurling with Brendan’s and lads from other hurling clubs such as kilmoyley play football with ardfert. But they are a dual club in my eyes I agree apart from this; St Brendans Hurling club and Ardfert football club are separate clubs. Nearly all the hurlers also play football with the football club. |
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Post by thehermit on Sept 18, 2022 17:53:06 GMT
For God sake don't jink us 1968 is an eternity!!! A great day for the parish, yeah look things have been going brilliant underage since the minors made the breakthrough in 2016. But senior, as our history cruelly shows, is a whole other ball game. Still have PTSD over 2011 - what a few weeks that was, on hand to see an All Ireland and a County title thrown away Have Crotta not won a championship since 1968??? Hard to believe alright in an 8 team competition and given Crotta's history but that's the truth. |
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 18, 2022 18:07:27 GMT
Have Crotta not won a championship since 1968??? Hard to believe alright in an 8 team competition and given Crotta's history but that's the truth. Happily, Lixnaw won a good few in the interim to maintain the honour of the Parish! |
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Post by thehermit on Sept 18, 2022 18:10:53 GMT
I've never been so insulted in all my life...
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Post by mossie on Sept 18, 2022 18:59:30 GMT
Have Crotta not won a championship since 1968??? Hard to believe alright in an 8 team competition and given Crotta's history but that's the truth. It has been a 9, 10 and 11 team competition at different stages Hermit if that softens the blow any bit! |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 18, 2022 19:02:51 GMT
Have Crotta not won a championship since 1968??? Hard to believe alright in an 8 team competition and given Crotta's history but that's the truth. I don’t mean to be a smart arse but that’s fairly astounding. Anyways hopefully they rectify it soon |
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Post by mossie on Sept 18, 2022 19:05:49 GMT
I've never been so insulted in all my life... Lixnaw have had a good run in modern history. I think they have won 7 since Crotta last won one! 3rd in the roll of honour now. They probably feel they left one or two behind them as well Killarney have won one since Crotta last won one! anyways Hermit, I feel that the famine will end soon , the talent now in Crotta is as good as it has been in decades The hurling championship will not be easily won in 2023 though. Kilmoyley are slipping but not gone away, Causeway are champions, Ballyduff have a conveyor of young talent coming through, St Brendans have young talent on the way too and are fielding 3 adult teams |
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Post by thehermit on Sept 18, 2022 19:07:25 GMT
Hard to believe alright in an 8 team competition and given Crotta's history but that's the truth. It has been a 9, 10 and 11 team competition at different stages Hermit if that softens the blow any bit! A little  |
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Post by mossie on Sept 18, 2022 19:07:48 GMT
Hard to believe alright in an 8 team competition and given Crotta's history but that's the truth. I don’t mean to be a smart arse but that’s fairly astounding. Anyways hopefully they rectify it soon a i said in a previous post, not always 8 teams , 9 now and was 11 at times , however Crotta(1968) and Abbeydorney (1974) are long waits. |
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 18, 2022 19:48:50 GMT
I don’t mean to be a smart arse but that’s fairly astounding. Anyways hopefully they rectify it soon a i said in a previous post, not always 8 teams , 9 now and was 11 at times , however Crotta(1968) and Abbeydorney (1974) are long waits. They both also beat Stacks in the final. Killarney also never won another title after losing a final to Stacks! |
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 18, 2022 21:00:53 GMT
Everyone would love to see Crotta win a county senior hurling title.
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Post by kerryexile5 on Sept 18, 2022 21:59:24 GMT
I've never been so insulted in all my life... Lixnaw have had a good run in modern history. I think they have won 7 since Crotta last won one! 3rd in the roll of honour now. They probably feel they left one or two behind them as well Killarney have won one since Crotta last won one! anyways Hermit, I feel that the famine will end soon , the talent now in Crotta is as good as it has been in decades The hurling championship will not be easily won in 2023 though. Kilmoyley are slipping but not gone away, Causeway are champions, Ballyduff have a conveyor of young talent coming through, St Brendans have young talent on the way too and are fielding 3 adult teams I don’t think Kilmoyley are slipping quite the opposite. You don’t get to an All Ireland club final in 2022 if you are slipping. Daniel Collins played the SHC semi final v Causeway with damaged ribs, Mossie O Connor came in 2nd half on one leg and Flor McCarthy was out with an ACL. 3 of their best players. I think the 2023 SHC has the makings of a really close encounter. |
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Post by thehermit on Sept 18, 2022 22:26:29 GMT
Everyone would love to see Crotta win a county senior hurling title. Oh yeah Lixnaw would be delighted alright...🤣 |
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Post by mossie on Sept 18, 2022 22:35:39 GMT
Lixnaw have had a good run in modern history. I think they have won 7 since Crotta last won one! 3rd in the roll of honour now. They probably feel they left one or two behind them as well Killarney have won one since Crotta last won one! anyways Hermit, I feel that the famine will end soon , the talent now in Crotta is as good as it has been in decades The hurling championship will not be easily won in 2023 though. Kilmoyley are slipping but not gone away, Causeway are champions, Ballyduff have a conveyor of young talent coming through, St Brendans have young talent on the way too and are fielding 3 adult teams I don’t think Kilmoyley are slipping quite the opposite. You don’t get to an All Ireland club final in 2022 if you are slipping. Daniel Collins played the SHC semi final v Causeway with damaged ribs, Mossie O Connor came in 2nd half on one leg and Flor McCarthy was out with an ACL. 3 of their best players. I think the 2023 SHC has the makings of a really close encounter. True re Kilmoyley and the injuries, Matthew Flaherty was injured too Barry O'Sullivan (Dingle) had a few good matches for them, if they can keep him on board, will be a plus, having to play extra time for Dingle in the county football league final the night before the kilmoyley \causeway match was a lot to ask. he still played very well but it was far from ideal I still think they may have peaked, have been weak under age for a long time which might catch them at senior level soon. |
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Post by mossie on Sept 18, 2022 22:38:45 GMT
Everyone would love to see Crotta win a county senior hurling title. Oh yeah Lixnaw would be delighted alright...🤣 Ah I wonder would it bother them that much?? I am not sure the hatred is there anymore Hermit? Lixnaw be more worried about getting their own house in order They have slipped a bit the last season or two |
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Post by percentageplay on Sept 19, 2022 7:57:30 GMT
Did anyone here of the goings on in the Junior Champ semi final between Duagh and Rathmore? The ref had the wrong score and gave Rathmore the win despite both Duagh and Rathmore think Duagh had won?
St. Brendans beat crokes in the other semi by 2 points, Brendans largely in control but a come back by crokes from an 8 point deficit to bring the game level with a few minutes left gave Brendans a scare.
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 19, 2022 8:54:02 GMT
Did anyone here of the goings on in the Junior Champ semi final between Duagh and Rathmore? The ref had the wrong score and gave Rathmore the win despite both Duagh and Rathmore think Duagh had won? St. Brendans beat crokes in the other semi by 2 points, Brendans largely in control but a come back by crokes from an 8 point deficit to bring the game level with a few minutes left gave Brendans a scare. Seems bizarre that everyone bar the ref had a different score. Apparently even the Rathmore players thought they'd lost. |
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Post by mossie on Sept 19, 2022 23:07:59 GMT
Kilmoyley, Causeway, O'Dorney, Crotta, St.Brendan's, Parnell's, Lixnaw and St.Patrick's are hurling clubs. In some cases there are football teams nearby but they are hurling only and to say otherwise is disingeuous. Kenmare, Kilgarvan, Ballyduff, Dr.Crokes and Duagh are dual clubs. Ballyheigue offer football almost as an afterthought and Rathmore have given much needed further sustenance to hurling in East Kerry as have Firies at underage level in Mid-Kerry. There is a good level of duality to be found whether within the dual clubs or in areas occupied by a football and hurling club in proximity. Kenmare have been a dual club for many years and although their fortunes wane thay have remained relevant and competitive. Ballyduff have maintained a good standard over the years but one would be in error in thinking that football could ever be the senior partner. Ardfert shares a similar experience with a county hurling title far outweighing any amount of footballing achiements. In recent years Kilgarvan, much like Newcestown in Cork, operate in both codes with almost identical squads; it is this that is untenable in the long run especially for a rural parish. Having known many dual players from North Kerry I can tell you that hurling is king for them but they will always do their utmost for whichever football team they represent more especially if it is their own club. Kenmare have always had good numbers at under age in hurling, still have, a deep tradition of hurling in the club at adult level hurling and football were once on a level par almost but the rise in the fortunes of football at adult level really saw hurling slip at adult level in recent years. were barely fielding. signs of a come back in the hurling in 2022. were competitive at intermediate Kenmare with the assistance of the 2 Foley brothers from Kilgarvan contested the 1991 senior hurling final. Mike O'Shea uncle of Seanie was midfield on the kerry hurling team that beat waterford in the early 1990s, was midfield for Kerry for number of years around then, he was some ox of a man. Played for Munster in the railway cup, he was that good |
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Post by mossie on Sept 19, 2022 23:16:27 GMT
Did anyone here of the goings on in the Junior Champ semi final between Duagh and Rathmore? The ref had the wrong score and gave Rathmore the win despite both Duagh and Rathmore think Duagh had won? St. Brendans beat crokes in the other semi by 2 points, Brendans largely in control but a come back by crokes from an 8 point deficit to bring the game level with a few minutes left gave Brendans a scare. Seems bizarre that everyone bar the ref had a different score. Apparently even the Rathmore players thought they'd lost. just human error if the ref did make a mistake , happened in croke park with Jimmy Cooney on the time keeping in 1998 There was 8 teams in the junior championship this year, good to see, it was down to 3 or 4 teams in previous seasons Be a good boost for hurling in Rathmore if they could win it, they are doing a lot of work to promote hurling at underage. Not a force in the A grades at underage, play at B and C levels really at underage but are fielding teams regularly including minor teams last 2 seasons. I fancy St Brendans in the final but u d never know If Rathmore continue the hard work at under age, it only a matter of time before they win the junior championship The long term plan for them should be to become an intemediate side, even if they win the junior next weekend, still think it a bit soon for them to go intermediate. need a few more to come through for them from under age Young Luke Crowley is a fine hurler for Rathmore, Johnny's son, his grandfather Derry was a fine hurler for many a year |
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 2, 2022 9:34:42 GMT
Rathmore fell short in the Junior final last night. Still a good achievement ti get there in their first season at adult level. It should stand to them.
They also won Div 3 of the minor league Friday. So definitely going in the right direction.
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Post by mossie on Oct 5, 2022 0:07:40 GMT
Rathmore fell short in the Junior final last night. Still a good achievement ti get there in their first season at adult level. It should stand to them. They also won Div 3 of the minor league Friday. So definitely going in the right direction. , If Luke Crowley hadnt picked up a bad injury earlier in the week playing football, Rathmore may have got the win. Pity for the young dual man to miss the final from a personal point of view too Very big crowd at the final, near 400, big Rathmore and also St Brendans following. The surface of the pitch was immaculate but a few lines on the pitch wouldnt have gone astray and no team sheet. showers cold after also for referee, officials and players surely a county final that drew such a crowd deserved better treatment than that? As you say the minor win on Friday night shows Rathmore are moving the right direction in hurling, have good numbers at under age, future at adult level looks secure in terms of fielding a team, the structure look to be there to push on to a win a junior and for Rathmore to become an intermediate club, might take a few years though. all in all though fantastic work going on in Rathmore to promote hurling Well done to St Brendans, it was their 3rd string that won the junior and their 2nd string got to the intermediate final, under 17s won the county minor, under 18s won the north kerry minor. Hurlng in Ardfert is in good health |
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 5, 2022 8:03:47 GMT
Seen something interesting in the paper the other day. John O Regan, better known for soccer, captained Kerry to an All-Ireland B title in 1983. I knew he played with Causeway but didn't realise he also played with Kerry.
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 13, 2022 21:18:36 GMT
Interesting to see Causeway played the Underdogs in tonights episode. They lost but no idea what sort of team they had playing.
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