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Post by thehermit on Aug 6, 2022 21:15:10 GMT
Fixed that for you Mick 😉 The last Crotta v Lixnaw county final was 1999 , went to a replay , Paul Galvin was man of the match,Eamon Fitzmaurice was midfield for Lixnaw,and I think it was Pat Cronin shot he winning point Don't remind me, still they held their own in the scrap in the tunnel, was it at full time in the drawn game that happened. Can't remember exactly, some brawl anyway. No love lost, as you'd want it. |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 6, 2022 21:26:48 GMT
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Post by southward on Aug 7, 2022 11:40:03 GMT
Let it be said, €15 is very reasonable for today's game. Hoping for a good crowd and the weather looks great. Let the tourists have the north Kerry beaches to themselves today.
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Post by mitchelsontour on Aug 7, 2022 14:41:56 GMT
Half time and having the ref miked up is a great addition to the coverage. He is straight forward and taking no guff.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 7, 2022 15:39:39 GMT
Half time and having the ref miked up is a great addition to the coverage. He is straight forward and taking no guff. Causeway deserving winners. Over 3000 in attendance. |
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Post by goonised on Aug 7, 2022 16:22:38 GMT
Anyone listen to the radio, Jesus tis dire, Commentator continuously using 1st names of players. Not all listeners are familiar with 1st names only. And a second point, could they not draft in two former county hurlers as pundits or for analysis. Anyone know who the analysts are.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 7, 2022 19:41:49 GMT
MURT MURPHY
Ballyduff 0-16 Causeway 2-15
Causeway regained the Neilus Flynn Cup when they deservedly defeated a Ballyduff side who never really got going. The victors were inspired by outstanding centre back Jason Diggins, and the free taking of Brandon Barrett.
They secured their ninth County SHC win while Ballyduff remain on 25 in front of 3,490 at a sun drenched Austin Stack Park, Tralee.
It was the first meeting of these two great rivals from the same parish in a final for sixteen years and only the sixth every meeting ever of Ballyduff and Causeway in a county senior hurling championship final. The stakes were high as Ballyduff were trying to join Kilmoyley on twenty six wins each on top of the SHC roll of honour.
It was a contest full of drama, colour and passion with a cacophony of noise every time one side or the other scored and not forgetting it was also the first Kerry SHC final to be televised live.
Ballyduff were quickly into their stride with two points from wing-back Eoin Ross as Causeway were wasteful, shooting four early wides. However, points from Paul McGrath, Joseph Diggins, and a free from Brandon Barrett saw Causeway lead 0-3 to 0-2 after 12 minutes, with Jason Diggins playing the sweeper role for Causeway to perfection.
Ballyduff were almost through for a goal in the 15th minute but John Mike Dooley denied Jack O’Sullivan at the expense of a 65 which Podge Boyle converted to level the contest midway through the half.
Ballyduff then appeared to have got to grips with the Causeway system and points from Paul O’Connor and Daniel O’Carroll saw them move 0-5 to 0-3 in front as Causeway suffered a body blow with the loss of wing-back Tommy Casey in the 22nd minute.
However, Ballyduff were soon in full attacking mode with points from Brandon Barrett and Paul McGrath to level the contest before Dan Goggin gave Causeway the lead in the 25th minute.
The turning point of the opening half happened in the 26th minute when Joseph Diggins spotted Colum Harty free on the 65 and a searing run and sidestep saw Harty blast the ball to the Ballyduff net and suddenly Causeway were 1-6 to 0-5 in front.
Podge Boyle and Ciaran Goulding closed the gap to two points but Causeway finished the half the stronger with a superb Harty point followed by a Brandon Barrett free and a point from play by Paul McGrath saw Causeway retire 1-9 to 0-8 in front at half-time.
Ballyduff made the better start to the second half outscoring Causeway 0-4 to 0-1 with Padraig Boyle scoring all four points before Brandon Barrett with two frees restored Causeways three-point advantage, 1-12 to 0-12 midway through the second half.
Ballyduff, thanks to Podge Boyle and Jack OSullivan, reduced the deficit to two points but Causeway assumed complete control and Brandon Barrett with two points, Gavin Dooley with one from play, and a scrambled goal in the 60th minute from Brandon Barrett ensured that Causeway were going to regain the Neilus Flynn Cup for the first time since 2019.
Scorers for Causeway: B Barrett (1-7, 7 frees), C Harty (1-1), P McGrath (0-3), D Goggin (0-2), G Dooley (0-1).
Scorers for Ballyduff: P Boyle (0-10, 8 frees, 2 ’65s), E Ross (0-2), K O’Connor, K Goulding. J O’Sullivan, and D Carroll (0-1 each).
CAUSEWAY: J M Dooley; A Fealy, M Delaney, G Leen; T Barrett, Jason Diggins, T Casey; K Carmody, B Barrett; Joseph Diggins, P McGrath, D Mahoney; D Goggin, C Harty, G Dooley.
Subs: K Leahy for T Casey (inj 25), M Murphy for J Diggins (59)
BALLYDUFF: P J O’Gorman; A Segal, S O’Connor, K O’Connor; T Slattery, P Costelloe, E Ross; D Goulding, M Boyle; A O’Carroll, K Goulding, D O’Carroll; J O’Sullivan, P Boyle, K O’Carroll.
Subs: J P O’Carroll for A O’Carroll (30+3), K O’Connor for D Goulding (38), D Moriarty for K O’Carroll (56)
Referee: J O’Halloran (Limerick).
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Post by thehermit on Aug 7, 2022 19:56:08 GMT
Congratulations to Causeway, deserving winners. It all got a bit scrappy there towards the end, especially for Causeway's second major. But what about that opening goal in the first half and that exquisite pass into Harty who then tore BallyD's cover asunder to bury the shot.
Great to see the big day in Kerry hurling on national tv and it was fascinating to listen in on the ref who took no guff!!!
Examiner said almost three and a half thousand were at it, thought it was a bit of a disappointing crowd given the weather but then again maybe the time of the year affected it more than the usual Sept date.
I hope Cauesway can follow in Kilmoyley's footsteps now and do some damage in the Munster intermediate and beyond!
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 7, 2022 20:45:56 GMT
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 7, 2022 20:48:19 GMT
Great win for Causeway. Few would have given them a chance of even making the final let alone win it.
Ballyduff just didn't seem to be able to get going today for one reason or another.
Hopefully they can make an impact in Munster in the next few weeks.
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Post by mossie on Aug 7, 2022 20:57:44 GMT
Congratulations to Causeway, deserving winners. It all got a bit scrappy there towards the end, especially for Causeway's second major. But what about that opening goal in the first half and that exquisite pass into Harty who then tore BallyD's cover asunder to bury the shot. Great to see the big day in Kerry hurling on national tv and it was fascinating to listen in on the ref who took no guff!!! Examiner said almost three and a half thousand were at it, thought it was a bit of a disappointing crowd given the weather but then again maybe the time of the year affected it more than the usual Sept date. I hope Cauesway can follow in Kilmoyley's footsteps now and do some damage in the Munster intermediate and beyond! crowds are down in the hurling championship this year matches on the same weekends as kerry footballers in croke park, the all ireland semi finals\final in hurling so that will impact attendance. A lot of club football today too in kerry and no curtain raiser to the senior final. Live on TV probably effected attendance too. anyways great to see the county final on national television, adds to the profile of the game in kerry |
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Post by mossie on Aug 7, 2022 20:59:37 GMT
Anyone listen to the radio, Jesus tis dire, Commentator continuously using 1st names of players. Not all listeners are familiar with 1st names only. And a second point, could they not draft in two former county hurlers as pundits or for analysis. Anyone know who the analysts are. Andrew Morrissey one of the analysts is quite good, originally from Cork, plays hurling with Tralee Parnells, but other than that I know what you are saying |
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 8, 2022 7:51:02 GMT
Congratulations to Causeway, deserving winners. It all got a bit scrappy there towards the end, especially for Causeway's second major. But what about that opening goal in the first half and that exquisite pass into Harty who then tore BallyD's cover asunder to bury the shot. Great to see the big day in Kerry hurling on national tv and it was fascinating to listen in on the ref who took no guff!!! Examiner said almost three and a half thousand were at it, thought it was a bit of a disappointing crowd given the weather but then again maybe the time of the year affected it more than the usual Sept date. I hope Cauesway can follow in Kilmoyley's footsteps now and do some damage in the Munster intermediate and beyond! crowds are down in the hurling championship this year matches on the same weekends as kerry footballers in croke park, the all ireland semi finals\final in hurling so that will impact attendance. A lot of club football today too in kerry and no curtain raiser to the senior final. Live on TV probably effected attendance too. anyways great to see the county final on national television, adds to the profile of the game in kerry Poor planning from the CB. No reason why the Intermediate final couldn't have been on yesterday. There also shouldn't have been any football fixed for the weekend. Still can't figure out what the rush to get everything done is. |
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Post by southward on Aug 8, 2022 11:27:36 GMT
crowds are down in the hurling championship this year matches on the same weekends as kerry footballers in croke park, the all ireland semi finals\final in hurling so that will impact attendance. A lot of club football today too in kerry and no curtain raiser to the senior final. Live on TV probably effected attendance too. anyways great to see the county final on national television, adds to the profile of the game in kerry Poor planning from the CB. No reason why the Intermediate final couldn't have been on yesterday. There also shouldn't have been any football fixed for the weekend. Still can't figure out what the rush to get everything done is. Busy times with the silage and so on wouldn't have helped either, I suppose. Still, it was a lovely day at ASP and a decent enough atmosphere. Got the sunburn and all. Ballyduff never really rose to the occasion and there just wasn't enough going on up front for them. Colm Harty deserved MOTM - carried the fight for Causeway whenever they were in a lull. Fantastic goal too. They seemed to want it a bit more, though there was nothing much in it at any stage and the result was in doubt right up to the second goal. I've no idea what happened for that one - a forest of bodies blocking the view for what seemed an eternity before arms went up in celebration. Happened to pass through Causeway last night and there was a homecoming do going on. Great to see crowds out celebrating again in these times. Congrats to all involved. |
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Post by moth on Aug 8, 2022 11:56:01 GMT
Congrats to Causeway. They deserved their win yesterday. I was very impressed with their work ethic.
Wishing them every success in the munster championship.
It will be difficult to manage their fitness & sharpness, as it is so far away.
I still can't understand why we have had to rush thru the hurling championships, to have time for 2 football championships. The senior hurlers were out nearly every weekend, while the intermediate hurlers were out every Wednesday. Anyone who claims that the county board treats the footballers and hurlers the same is clearly delusional.
For the Boyle brothers, I am disappointed. Their service to both club and county has been outstanding. Podge was immense for Kerry this year and almost dragged the McDonagh final out of the fire for us.
However, yesterday was not their day. Causeway kept them quiet in open play and that was the winning of the match for them.
Kilmoyley will also have more regrets after yesterday, as they had Causeway beaten in the semis with 10 minutes to go, but let them back in.
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Post by moth on Aug 8, 2022 12:05:54 GMT
Anyone listen to the radio, Jesus tis dire, Commentator continuously using 1st names of players. Not all listeners are familiar with 1st names only. And a second point, could they not draft in two former county hurlers as pundits or for analysis. Anyone know who the analysts are. I didn't listen to yesterday's match on the radio. To be honest, I find that it is hit & miss with the hurling commentary on radio Kerry, but it so much better than the football commentary. During a football match, we know how many house chimneys have smoke coming out, where Mary has gone on her holiers, loads of best wishes to Jack & Jill, etc, but find it difficult to figure out which team has just scored and very often don't even know what the score is. |
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Post by thehermit on Aug 8, 2022 12:45:58 GMT
Anyone listen to the radio, Jesus tis dire, Commentator continuously using 1st names of players. Not all listeners are familiar with 1st names only. And a second point, could they not draft in two former county hurlers as pundits or for analysis. Anyone know who the analysts are. I didn't listen to yesterday's match on the radio. To be honest, I find that it is hit & miss with the hurling commentary on radio Kerry, but it so much better than the football commentary. During a football match, we know how many house chimneys have smoke coming out, where Mary has gone on her holiers, loads of best wishes to Jack & Jill, etc, but find it difficult to figure out which team has just scored and very often don't even know what the score is. I tend to agree that RK's hurling commentary is better than what we get for the football, I think Mike O'Hanlon is excellent and always enjoyed the radio coverage for club and Kerry games. |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 8, 2022 15:20:21 GMT
For the Boyle brothers, I am disappointed. Their service to both club and county has been outstanding. Podge was immense for Kerry this year and almost dragged the McDonagh final out of the fire for us. 100%. The Boyles were immense for Kerry as was Eoin Ross. |
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Post by homerj on Aug 8, 2022 21:01:21 GMT
i would say crowds will be down everywhere until september, very bad time for playing championship.
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Post by Moderator on Aug 8, 2022 22:52:20 GMT
So when should the hurling championship be played?
Football has Club championships in August and County championship plus club latter stages take September and October.
June and July seem best in my opinion...but what say the hurling men?
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 9, 2022 6:45:25 GMT
So when should the hurling championship be played? Football has Club championships in August and County championship plus club latter stages take September and October. June and July seem best in my opinion...but what say the hurling men? Fair play to you for asking this. It will be interesting to see alternative proposals. To allow dual players play both codes, the hurling championship can only be played when its played now. Plus the weather is good. I do think though that the separate club and county championships in football could be rationalised a bit to make some extra weeks free. |
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Post by homerj on Aug 9, 2022 7:46:06 GMT
So when should the hurling championship be played? Football has Club championships in August and County championship plus club latter stages take September and October. June and July seem best in my opinion...but what say the hurling men? only the county board will know this and what the potential clash is for football and hurling into of people playing both codes. if its less than 5%, no reason hurling games cant be friday night and then those clubs impacted play sundays in the football. i guess though it would be hard to do both so its a tricky one overall. could also rotate every second week like they do in some counties. |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 9, 2022 7:59:12 GMT
The joe mcdonagh final was played on 5th June i think and the qualifier the following weekend.
So there is really only a 6 or 7 week window before dual players are likely to be called on to play football.
With all the variables and moving parts, the county board do well to manage it all
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Post by kerryexile5 on Aug 9, 2022 8:33:00 GMT
So when should the hurling championship be played? Football has Club championships in August and County championship plus club latter stages take September and October. June and July seem best in my opinion...but what say the hurling men? Fair play to you for asking this. It will be interesting to see alternative proposals. To allow dual players play both codes, the hurling championship can only be played when its played now. Plus the weather is good. I do think though that the separate club and county championships in football could be rationalised a bit to make some extra weeks free. Agreed, look at the fantastic weather the players got to enjoy on county final day, beautiful conditions for hurling. A lot of other counties commented on the standard of hurling in the final and it was a great showcase on tg4, and the if it was a rainy day in October wouldn't look as good. Granted, the county board probably missed out on an extra 1000 supporters or so but that was a mix of people on holidays season, football fixtures, and the game shown live on tg4, not all in their control. Wexford is very similar and even more condensed, Ferns who are in the senior county hurling final have now played 8 games in 7 weeks. Players seem happy and the likes of dual stars Dan Goggins and Brandon Barrett can focus on one code at a time and not be jumping to hurling championship game one weekend and off to a football championship match two nights later. |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 9, 2022 11:35:31 GMT
Four things we learned from the Kerry Senior Hurling Final
TG4’s great experiment worked a treat, plus three other things we learned from Causeway’s victory over Ballyduff on Sunday afternoon
Damian Stack
August 09 2022 10:31 AM
It’s always one of the great days on the domestic hurling calendar and Sunday’s Garvey’s County Senior Hurling Final certainly lived up to its billing in a lot of ways.
As ever we learned plenty about the state of hurling in the county. Here are just four of those things we learned from Causeway’s victory over Ballyduff on the John Joe Sheehy road…
Mic offers a new insight
While in the ground, it wasn’t something we noticed. For obvious reasons. It was designed for the TV audience to gain an insight into how referees go about their business, and on that score it was a success. Leave it to TG4 to break new ground with Gaelic Games coverage.
Watching back some of the footage since it offered a lovely little window into the job referees have to do. The tension between letting the game flow and applying the letter of the law.
It was striking too how polite the inter-actions between players and the man in the middle were too. Perhaps the fact the players knew Limerick official John O’Halloran – who had a fine game – was mic’d up factored into that, but maybe we do a disservice to our players in this county to suggest as much!
Either way it’s probably going to become more common place now that the Rubicon has been crossed. It should go a long way towards eliminating the back-seat and couch referees to realise how difficult a job it can be. It can only be a good thing.
Poachers can turn gamekeeper
You’d halfway be inclined to suggest that age is just a number watching John Mike Dooley in action for Causeway on Sunday afternoon. The veteran hurler is in his late forties and is very much still a vital presence in the maroon and white’s band of merry men.
More notable, though, probably is the fact that he’s shown the adaptability to change his game up after a generation as one of the most fearsome predators this county has ever seen. Perhaps, it’s that record as a goal-scorer par-excellence that makes him such an effective goalkeeper.
After pulling off two top-class saves in the first half – from Jack O’Sullivan and Kieran O’Carroll – plus another in the second half from Kevin O’Connor – albeit that was less well struck, it’s clear he knows his onions as a shot-stopper, quick off his line to narrow the angle for the two Ballyduff inside forwards.
If you were choosing a team of the championship, Dooley’s name would have to be at the forefront of discussions for the number 1 slot. That’s some going and a tribute to the man.
The pageantry is a major part of it all
Joni Mitchell once sang that you don’t know what you’ve got ‘til it’s gone. To put a spin on that we’d suggest that you don’t know what you’ve got ‘til it’s back.
Sunday’s final was the first time since the 2019 final that the full pageantry of the occasion returned with the Killorglin & District pipe band and a pre-match parade around Austin Stack Park taking place. It made it feel that much more special an occasion. Fitting of it really.
The fans around the ground really got into it and got behind their teams. Even the rendition of Amhrán na bhFiann felt that much more special. As an occasion, if not maybe fully as a game of hurling, Sunday certainly lived up to its billing.
The 3,120 who turned out in the August sun-shine got their money’s worth that’s for sure.
You really can’t beat experience
Because Ballyduff are who Ballyduff are we would have felt they could, as they say of Cork, come up like mushrooms overnight and claim the title for themselves.
To be fair this Ballyduff run didn’t spring from nowhere, underage success has laid the foundations, still this is the first significant run at senior level for this new-look Ballyduff side and in Sunday’s final it told.
We don’t necessarily buy into the notion that you have to lose one to win one – this Causeway side won their first title since the 1990s in 2019 at the first time of asking after all.
Causeway, though, had been knocking around the upper echelons of the championship for a number of seasons before finally making that breakthrough.
You could tell how nervy Ballyduff were at times and even their manager Garry O’Brien made reference to it after the game. The green and white will have learned from the experience, it’s sure to stand them in good stead into the future. They’ll be back, for sure.
Causeway, though, won this one with that bit of knowhow and experience.
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 25, 2022 7:36:20 GMT
Kilmoyley beat Causeway in the 2021 North Kerry final last night. Daniel Collins scored 2-17 for Kilmoyley.
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Post by mossie on Aug 25, 2022 19:08:45 GMT
what a score by Daniel Collins, biggest score ever by a player in a hurling match in Kerry?
or anywhere for that matter!!
a lot of hurling folk complain about the county championship finishing early and say hurling over for the year. This is not true, the north kerry senior championship 2022 is on now, last night was the 2021 final!!
I hope the south kerry board run a senior hurling championship - Crokes, Parnells , Kilgarvan would generate good matches. I see they have a junior championship
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 26, 2022 7:46:41 GMT
what a score by Daniel Collins, biggest score ever by a player in a hurling match in Kerry? or anywhere for that matter!! a lot of hurling folk complain about the county championship finishing early and say hurling over for the year. This is not true, the north kerry senior championship 2022 is on now, last night was the 2021 final!! I hope the south kerry board run a senior hurling championship - Crokes, Parnells , Kilgarvan would generate good matches. I see they have a junior championship With such a big gap before Munster for both the senior and intermediate champions the North and South Kerry championships are a good opportunity for them to get a bit of match practice in. Otherwise teams will just be training and that's not going to do anything for them in Munster. |
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Post by homerj on Aug 26, 2022 12:49:29 GMT
Kilmoyley beat Causeway in the 2021 North Kerry final last night. Daniel Collins scored 2-17 for Kilmoyley. not that it matters, but im interested to know how much he got from play!? |
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Post by mossie on Aug 30, 2022 20:22:22 GMT
what a score by Daniel Collins, biggest score ever by a player in a hurling match in Kerry? or anywhere for that matter!! a lot of hurling folk complain about the county championship finishing early and say hurling over for the year. This is not true, the north kerry senior championship 2022 is on now, last night was the 2021 final!! I hope the south kerry board run a senior hurling championship - Crokes, Parnells , Kilgarvan would generate good matches. I see they have a junior championship With such a big gap before Munster for both the senior and intermediate champions the North and South Kerry championships are a good opportunity for them to get a bit of match practice in. Otherwise teams will just be training and that's not going to do anything for them in Munster. Kilmoyley made light of the long break in 2021 and won kerry first munster title the nk and sk competitions are good at this time of the year, keeps the hurling season going. I see Parnells 2nd team won the sk junior title beating Kenmare Kenmare 2nd team as well I take it? great if it is, they were tight for one team in recent times |
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