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Post by hurlingman on Jul 2, 2022 7:33:11 GMT
Parnells had a good win over Kenmare last night in the Intermediate. You'd be thinking they should win it this year. If themselves and Crokes could establish themselves in the senior championship it'd be exactly what's needed.
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Post by mossie on Jul 2, 2022 12:14:24 GMT
Parnells had a good win over Kenmare last night in the Intermediate. You'd be thinking they should win it this year. If themselves and Crokes could establish themselves in the senior championship it'd be exactly what's needed. far from certain, they will win it Kenmare only lost narrowly to Parnells last night and have a backdoor game to come back into it Kilgarvan will have eyes on it too and you will get a north kerry B team that will be strong too Good to see a back door in the intermediate championship this year. Kenmare would have been gone otherwise, they need the extra matches |
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 2, 2022 20:40:31 GMT
Do Austin Stacks play with Parnells now or are they still seperate?what clubs make up Tralee Parnells? It's just Parnells now in Tralee. They're thier own club. |
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 3, 2022 9:32:16 GMT
Crokes put up a good enough showing against Abbeydorney last night. Does anyone know what the story is with relegation?
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Post by moth on Jul 3, 2022 12:41:29 GMT
Crokes put up a good enough showing against Abbeydorney last night. Does anyone know what the story is with relegation? Great to see Crokes run up such a score. I had feared a heavy defeat for them, if Abbeydorney were looking to top the group. I suspect that the clubs themselves make the decision. Crokes have made great progress since coming up, so I'd like them to stay up for another 2 years and see if they can progress. Can't expect teams to be getting beat every year, so Ballyheigue & Crokes will probably consider the Intermediate route. Winning the intermediate also bring the prospect of a run in the Munster Junior championship. I'd hope that Parnells could win intermediate, to join them in the senior championship. Not sure how a championship of 10 teams works. |
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Post by thehermit on Jul 3, 2022 14:30:13 GMT
Great win for Crotta over the auld enemy,two comprehensive victories in the first two outings now.
Keep her rolling lads!!
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Post by mossie on Jul 4, 2022 0:43:17 GMT
It's just Parnells now in Tralee. They're thier own club. So Stacks don't play hurling anymore and how many clubs with Parnells? "Stacks na Gaeil Mitcheks Kerins ó Rahillys blenervilke? No other club plays with Tralee Parnells. Parnells are an entity of their own. Some of the Parnells players play hurling only so Parnells is their only club. Others play football as well which generally is with one the 4 clubs within the town boundary or the like of Ballymacelligot or St Pats just outside. In Churchill, a player has the option of playing hurling with either St Brendans Ardfert or Parnells |
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Post by mossie on Jul 4, 2022 0:52:11 GMT
it is a long time since 4 teams outside north kerry competed in the minor hurling championship, in 2022 this is the case
Tralee Parnells
Rathmore
Kenmare\Kilgarvan
South Kerry ( made up of Firies, Dr Crokes, St Pats)
Very positive development. Rathmore fielding a minor team for the 2nd year in succession, all good to see
These teams wont be in the shake up to win it out. St Brendans last years finalists and Ballyduff the reigning championgs look best placed again
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 4, 2022 10:14:54 GMT
it is a long time since 4 teams outside north kerry competed in the minor hurling championship, in 2022 this is the case Tralee Parnells Rathmore Kenmare\Kilgarvan South Kerry ( made up of Firies, Dr Crokes, St Pats) Very positive development. Rathmore fielding a minor team for the 2nd year in succession, all good to see These teams wont be in the shake up to win it out. St Brendans last years finalists and Ballyduff the reigning championgs look best placed again I'd a South Kerry team win the Intermediate this year and go up senior bringing South Kerry back will have to be looked at imo. Thr players seem to be there to at least give it try. |
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 4, 2022 10:16:26 GMT
With everyone having at least one game played Crotta look to be the team to beat so far. With Causeway and Abbeydorney also looking good. It's probably a bit early to comment on the teams who only have one game yet.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 4, 2022 14:33:46 GMT
3 Groups of 3. 2 of the Group winners go thru to semi-final. - decided by an open draw, I believe. 3rd Group winner & three 2nd placed teams play in 2 quarter finals. Three 3rd placed teams exit the championship. It is actually a good format, brought about by Dr Crokes going senior, the co board have done well coming up with it I know the clubs are not too happy about the timing of the competition in that it is over too early in the year, final was to be end of July , now 1st week in August owing to kerry progress to Joe McDonagh final. The Clubs really had damn all access to the county players until about 2 weeks before the competition started, also bit more of a gap between games when it gets to knock stages would be better. ideally start the competition a week later and final the end of August. But look putting togther a fixtures schedule to cater for everything is near impossible The two Dingle lads playing with Kilmoyley will be needed for the Football County championship too though by Dingle. Same with a number of other dual players playing with St Brendans , Feale Rangers etc. So they need to compress competitions. Wait till the Parnell lads start playing senior hurling and senior football...it will get even more tricky then. |
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Post by mossie on Jul 4, 2022 18:25:54 GMT
It is actually a good format, brought about by Dr Crokes going senior, the co board have done well coming up with it I know the clubs are not too happy about the timing of the competition in that it is over too early in the year, final was to be end of July , now 1st week in August owing to kerry progress to Joe McDonagh final. The Clubs really had damn all access to the county players until about 2 weeks before the competition started, also bit more of a gap between games when it gets to knock stages would be better. ideally start the competition a week later and final the end of August. But look putting togther a fixtures schedule to cater for everything is near impossible The two Dingle lads playing with Kilmoyley will be needed for the Football County championship too though by Dingle. Same with a number of other dual players playing with St Brendans , Feale Rangers etc. So they need to compress competitions. Wait till the Parnell lads start playing senior hurling and senior football...it will get even more tricky then. Yep MickMack, such is the case, other examples as well Na Gaeil are a senior football club now having won the intermediate last year and have a huge amount of dual players across a few clubs! they have several Abbeydorney senior hurlers on their football team, Dan Goggin plays senior hurling with Causeway, Dara Reen plays Intermediate hurling with Parnells and I believe one or two others are now focusing on football only having played with Parnells also up to recently To be frank, there is a feeling that hurling is getting the thin end of the wedge and badly squeezed, the fact the club football championships are now round robin and I think the senior football county championship is also going this way fills up the calendar and puts huge demands on the dual player One solution would be put an extra division in the county football league, reduce every league by 2 teams as a consequence. it frees up 2 weekends. Hardly a requirement for 11 county league games in 12 team leagues now, this is a legacy from an era when club football championships and county football championships were knock out. knocking 2 rounds out of the league would hardly put football out that much and would give hurling space to breathe and flourish. It would also free up space for the district football board competitions which are also squeezed |
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 4, 2022 18:27:06 GMT
The two Dingle lads playing with Kilmoyley will be needed for the Football County championship too though by Dingle. Same with a number of other dual players playing with St Brendans , Feale Rangers etc. So they need to compress competitions. Wait till the Parnell lads start playing senior hurling and senior football...it will get even more tricky then. Yep MickMack, such is the case, other examples as well Na Gaeil are a senior football club now having won the intermediate last year and have a huge amount of dual players across a few clubs! they have several Abbeydorney senior hurlers on their football team, Dan Goggin plays senior hurling with Causeway, Dara Reen plays Intermediate hurling with Parnells and I believe one or two others are now focusing on football only having played with Parnells also up to recently To be frank, there is a feeling that hurling is getting the thin end of the wedge and badly squeezed, the fact the club football championships are now round robin and I think the senior football county championship is also going this way fills up the calendar and puts huge demands on the dual player One solution would be put an extra division in the county football league, reduce every league by 2 teams as a consequence. it frees up 2 weekends. Hardly a requirement for 11 county league games in 12 team leagues now, this is a legacy from an era when club football championships and county football championships were knock out. knocking 2 rounds out of the league would hardly put football out that much and would give hurling space to breathe and flourish. It would also free up space for the district football board competitions which are also squeezed Hard to argue with that |
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Post by mossie on Jul 4, 2022 18:28:20 GMT
With everyone having at least one game played Crotta look to be the team to beat so far. With Causeway and Abbeydorney also looking good. It's probably a bit early to comment on the teams who only have one game yet. Crotta continue to look good, Causeway making light of all the absentees through injury, travel, transfers, fair play to them Had good players not getting game time the last few years owing to the strength of their panel, these players getting a chance to shine now |
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Post by mossie on Jul 4, 2022 18:33:41 GMT
Yep MickMack, such is the case, other examples as well Na Gaeil are a senior football club now having won the intermediate last year and have a huge amount of dual players across a few clubs! they have several Abbeydorney senior hurlers on their football team, Dan Goggin plays senior hurling with Causeway, Dara Reen plays Intermediate hurling with Parnells and I believe one or two others are now focusing on football only having played with Parnells also up to recently To be frank, there is a feeling that hurling is getting the thin end of the wedge and badly squeezed, the fact the club football championships are now round robin and I think the senior football county championship is also going this way fills up the calendar and puts huge demands on the dual player One solution would be put an extra division in the county football league, reduce every league by 2 teams as a consequence. it frees up 2 weekends. Hardly a requirement for 11 county league games in 12 team leagues now, this is a legacy from an era when club football championships and county football championships were knock out. knocking 2 rounds out of the league would hardly put football out that much and would give hurling space to breathe and flourish. It would also free up space for the district football board competitions which are also squeezed Hard to argue with that yes MickMack but in a predominately football county , have the board the stomach to do it? If we are to be really serious about hurling, things like this need to be done It would really help hurling and the dual player, encourage more to stay playing dual As I said, it would help district football board competitions too It is my view when you count in club football championship, senior county football championships, district board league, district board championships, a 9 game county league campaign still leaves football teams with loads of matches |
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Post by goonised on Jul 5, 2022 7:08:29 GMT
Dual player not sustainable anymore even at club level.
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 5, 2022 8:22:50 GMT
yes MickMack but in a predominately football county , have the board the stomach to do it? If we are to be really serious about hurling, things like this need to be done It would really help hurling and the dual player, encourage more to stay playing dual As I said, it would help district football board competitions too It is my view when you count in club football championship, senior county football championships, district board league, district board championships, a 9 game county league campaign still leaves football teams with loads of matches Has there been a CB chairperson from a hurling club in recent times? Off the top of my head I can't think of anyone. Unless there's someone at the top table pushing hurling it'll just stay the same. |
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 5, 2022 8:26:35 GMT
Ballyheigue gave a walkover to Ladies Walk last night in the Intermediate. Disappointing to see but I would think they have small enough numbers at the moment.
They only had 13 for the minor championship but still won. Hopefully they can start to get numbers from underage teams coming trough. But they've struggled to do thst for a long time.
As has been said it's probably close to 10 years since they won a championship game now. They did want to drop to Intermediate a few years ago but the CB wouldn't let them.
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Post by moth on Jul 5, 2022 10:40:28 GMT
Ballyheigue gave a walkover to Ladies Walk last night in the Intermediate. Disappointing to see but I would think they have small enough numbers at the moment. They only had 13 for the minor championship but still won. Hopefully they can start to get numbers from underage teams coming trough. But they've struggled to do thst for a long time. As has been said it's probably close to 10 years since they won a championship game now. They did want to drop to Intermediate a few years ago but the CB wouldn't let them. Very disappointing that they have given a walkover. Very poor decision by County Board not to let them regrade. A year or 2 at intermediate would have brought on a lot of their younger players. On a seperate, but related topic - with 3 teams going out of the championship this weekend, should they play off to determine a "relegation" team. This team should then be given the option to stay senior or regrade to intermediate. |
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 6, 2022 8:39:19 GMT
Parnells had a good win against Causeway in the minor league final last night. Considering they've only had a minor team on their own for maybe 3 or 4 years they've made huge progress.
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 6, 2022 8:41:49 GMT
Ballyheigue gave a walkover to Ladies Walk last night in the Intermediate. Disappointing to see but I would think they have small enough numbers at the moment. They only had 13 for the minor championship but still won. Hopefully they can start to get numbers from underage teams coming trough. But they've struggled to do thst for a long time. As has been said it's probably close to 10 years since they won a championship game now. They did want to drop to Intermediate a few years ago but the CB wouldn't let them. Very disappointing that they have given a walkover. Very poor decision by County Board not to let them regrade. A year or 2 at intermediate would have brought on a lot of their younger players. On a seperate, but related topic - with 3 teams going out of the championship this weekend, should they play off to determine a "relegation" team. This team should then be given the option to stay senior or regrade to intermediate. There should definitely be some sort of relagation play off. When teams know they can't be relegated what's the point in them making an effort. Even if it was between the bottom team and the Intermediate winner or runner up depending on who wins it. |
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Post by mossie on Jul 6, 2022 21:32:23 GMT
yes MickMack but in a predominately football county , have the board the stomach to do it? If we are to be really serious about hurling, things like this need to be done It would really help hurling and the dual player, encourage more to stay playing dual As I said, it would help district football board competitions too It is my view when you count in club football championship, senior county football championships, district board league, district board championships, a 9 game county league campaign still leaves football teams with loads of matches Has there been a CB chairperson from a hurling club in recent times? Off the top of my head I can't think of anyone. Unless there's someone at the top table pushing hurling it'll just stay the same. Gerald McKenna , Ballyduff lord rest him in the 1970s |
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Post by mossie on Jul 6, 2022 21:33:16 GMT
Parnells had a good win against Causeway in the minor league final last night. Considering they've only had a minor team on their own for maybe 3 or 4 years they've made huge progress. Division 2 final not Division 1 but good win nonetheless |
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Post by mossie on Jul 6, 2022 21:38:22 GMT
Ballyheigue gave a walkover to Ladies Walk last night in the Intermediate. Disappointing to see but I would think they have small enough numbers at the moment. They only had 13 for the minor championship but still won. Hopefully they can start to get numbers from underage teams coming trough. But they've struggled to do thst for a long time. As has been said it's probably close to 10 years since they won a championship game now. They did want to drop to Intermediate a few years ago but the CB wouldn't let them. Ballyheigue 2nd team fulfilled all fixtures in the North Kerry and County League competitions and even won a junior NK league so this is a bit odd I suppose league allows more players to be eligible than championship so this is likely to be a factor plus summer holidays, J1s etc Overall, the Ballyheigue senior team is improving but a few years off being a real force |
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Post by mossie on Jul 6, 2022 21:39:22 GMT
Dual player not sustainable anymore even at club level. I regret to say that there is an level of truth in that and not just in Kerry, sad really |
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 7, 2022 7:02:16 GMT
Parnells had a good win against Causeway in the minor league final last night. Considering they've only had a minor team on their own for maybe 3 or 4 years they've made huge progress. Division 2 final not Division 1 but good win nonetheless Should have said that. But a first minor title for them. |
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 8, 2022 15:52:06 GMT
This county final is bring broadcast live on TG4 this year for the first time. A great opportunity to showcase Kerry hurling nationally.
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 9, 2022 16:42:03 GMT
Kilgarvan had a big win in the Intermediate last and look to be going well. Causeway also beat Abbeydorney.
Another milestone for Parnells qualified for the semi finals of the minor championship.
Kilmoyley had a routine enough win over Crokes as well. But Crokes seem to have put in good showing despite the result.
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 9, 2022 17:41:05 GMT
Kilmoyley and Crotta receive byes to the semi final.
Quarter Finals:
Ballyduff v Abbeydorney
Ballyheigue v Causeway
Ballyheigue got their first championship win today since 2011.
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Post by mossie on Jul 9, 2022 17:52:49 GMT
Kilgarvan had a big win in the Intermediate last and look to be going well. Causeway also beat Abbeydorney. Another milestone for Parnells qualified for the semi finals of the minor championship. Kilmoyley had a routine enough win over Crokes as well. But Crokes seem to have put in good showing despite the result. Was Donal O'Sullivan playing for Kilgarvan? Dr Crokes ran out of steam when Kilmoyley upped it a gear or two. Conor Bohane and dual player Tom Doyle were big losses for Dr Crokes. I hope the south kerry hurling board get a south kerry championship going between Crokes, Kilgarvan, Parnells and Kenmare. Dr Crokes need games rather than their season ending last night |
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