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Post by southward on Jul 18, 2021 12:30:43 GMT
Refereeing is awful so far. For both sides, it must be said.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jul 18, 2021 12:40:16 GMT
Backs doing well, the tackling all over the field is very good. Transition up to the forwards breaking down at times. Kerry the better team, hope they push on now in the second half.
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Post by eastwarrior on Jul 18, 2021 13:07:49 GMT
The half forward line had to be changed, Derry all over us in this position I believe there half back line has kick 6 of there 1-9 and set up the goal. Maunsell, Burke and O’Leary playing excellent around the middle.
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Post by southward on Jul 18, 2021 13:08:05 GMT
Need to be getting the finger out up front. 15 to go, could slip away if we're not careful here.
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Post by southward on Jul 18, 2021 13:11:33 GMT
Trying to walk it into the net again and again. Ffs, take your scores!
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Post by oldschool on Jul 18, 2021 13:20:50 GMT
Kerry really throwing it away
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Post by pillar on Jul 18, 2021 13:30:48 GMT
Was it a penalty??
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Post by ciarrai92 on Jul 18, 2021 13:31:00 GMT
Second half had it all . My god Kerry really gave it away though
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 18, 2021 13:31:37 GMT
Congrats to Derry. They were more efficient as regards taking scores. Derry had a goal cleared off the line too.
Kerry should get a few from that team.
Super game.
Well reffed.
Derry have a small enough pick mainly from South Derry so some achievement by them.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 18, 2021 13:32:21 GMT
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Post by ciarrai92 on Jul 18, 2021 13:33:27 GMT
Foot block yes I thought it was
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jul 18, 2021 13:33:41 GMT
Kerry had plenty of chances to win . I am glad the Derrys keeper mistake did not matter in the end. The players were obviously very tired in the last 15 minutes. The amount of space was unreal and also led to some poor decision making.
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Post by pillar on Jul 18, 2021 13:36:21 GMT
Foot block yes I thought it was OK but I've seen goalies make saves with their feet before..that aside we squandered chances
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Post by eastwarrior on Jul 18, 2021 13:36:24 GMT
I agreed it was a penalty for Kerry u20s against Cork so I’ll have to die on my sword and agree again. Derry probably did deserve it kerry got lucky with the goal and probably left it behind them in the end. Management were very slow to make changes same as the u20s against cork and again probably cost us. I said changes had to be made in the wing forward line at 1/2 time. Derry wing back got motm and the our other wing forward got sent off. Unlucky to lose especially such a tight game. O’Leary, Burke and Maunsall look very promising players.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 18, 2021 13:36:29 GMT
Refereeing is awful so far. For both sides, it must be said. Another subpar performance by a Mayoman in an All Ireland final. Colour me surprised. The penalty was a footblock and a yellow. One of his rare correct decisions.
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Post by southward on Jul 18, 2021 13:37:40 GMT
That's two minor titles in succession thrown away. Should be the 7 in a row by now.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 18, 2021 13:39:58 GMT
Turning point was keeper saving from Burke when 0-9 to 0-6 up & conceding goal in the next play - far too wasteful in possession, often trying to walk the ball into the net. Lots of good youngsters there though, Maunsell looks a real talent.
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on Jul 18, 2021 13:45:29 GMT
Disappointed to lose but definitely a few future stars out there today. Maunsell, OLeary, Burke, Evans and young Dara OCallaghan are all very promising and mainly defenders too which is great to see
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Post by john4 on Jul 18, 2021 13:49:45 GMT
Questionable decision making at crucial points in the match. Unfortunate, but can happen with young lads. Hopefully this defeat will strengthen their personal character and individually use it to push them forward into the U20 age group.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jul 18, 2021 13:58:07 GMT
Huge credit to both teams for a fantastic final and to be fair one can't begrudge Derry as they battled hard to make it happen. I thought our handling skills were too often very poor throughout and if passes weren’t going astray or dropping short they were being signposted to the opposition - nerves- the conditions - who knows? It was a mighty effort from both teams all told and Kerry did kick some great scores but ultimately made too many unforced errors when the match was there for them. Derry were methodical and played with much more purpose with the ball.
Hard luck to Kerry and well done to the Derry minors.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 18, 2021 14:39:46 GMT
Firstly well done Derry you wouldn't begrudge them.
Is there another county that so often lose a game from what appears a very winable one.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 18, 2021 14:54:13 GMT
Is there another county that so often lose a game from what appears a very winable one. You pose a good question
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Post by veteran on Jul 18, 2021 14:59:58 GMT
While it was a heartbreaking defeat , and at stages Kerry looked well capable of winning it, overall Derry were slicker and deservedly won. This game had an uncanny resemblance to the recent u20 game- losing by a point, a lot of hand passes carrying to much weight and height, a penalty for a footblock , under pressure for a lot of our kicks out and a chance to bring it to extra time , albeit that opportunity today was more difficult than the one that Paul O’Shea missed the last night. Regarding the last free, it looked a very difficult for a senior player let alone a minor player. Perhaps , it would have been prudent to play a short one. On the other hand, I wonder did the referee tell Cian that he had to score direct? Of course our obsession with going going for goals did not help.
There were a lot of good individual displays by our lads , particularly young Burke at midfield, and one would be hopeful that some of them would have bright future.
Beaten by Cork by a point last November , beaten by Cork by a point during the week and beaten by Derry by a point today. I hope an apparent trend is bucked next Sunday!
P.S. I wonder could we find a sponsor to fund an academy for kicking the ball out successfully, without involving too much stress for players and supporters alike.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jul 18, 2021 15:01:26 GMT
Massively underperformed in the second half. Hugely disappointing for the players after such a tough campaign. Heinrich the biggest prospect for me, a natural centre back and has done well throughout the campaign. Maunsell, Burke and Evans also very promising along with Dara O’Callaghan who is a year younger.
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Post by gaelicden on Jul 18, 2021 21:58:37 GMT
Hard luck to the Kerry Minors (U17 2020) today. Could have went either way in the end. The production line is still moving along that's for sure. Just reminiscing on the U18 Minor equivalent of 2001 ( www.terracetalk.com/kerry-football/game/899/2001-Kerry-Vs-Dublin ). Look at what came through from that team, no less than 6 players (including a goalkeeper turned forward). Most of these lads became mainstays of the team by the Mid/late 2000s, early 2010s. Maybe I'm being too confident but if we can get a few lads from the 2020 minors through over the next few years we should be there or there abouts for 2030. Maybe I should just focus on our present championship prospects.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 19, 2021 11:06:07 GMT
The 2019 minors lost a semi final by a point in a game they should have won only for awful shot taking.
The 2020 minors lost the final by a point in a game they should have won only for taking poor options up front and some rookie defending at the other end.
Hopefully the 2021 minors will buck the trend.
Either way I expect a new face on the sideline next year from what I have been hearing.
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Post by glengael on Jul 19, 2021 11:45:42 GMT
The end result was so disappointing. Derry were happy to keep it close all through and their subs looked quite sturdy for that age group and made an impact. Taking your points is far preferable to goal scoring, they all count in such a tight game. Difficult stop-start season for young players so credit to both teams for an entertaining game. Agree with Buck's view in the post above me. Onwards and upwards.
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Post by brigid on Jul 19, 2021 17:53:58 GMT
Massively underperformed in the second half. Hugely disappointing for the players after such a tough campaign. Heinrich the biggest prospect for me, a natural centre back and has done well throughout the campaign. Maunsell, Burke and Evans also very promising along with Dara O’Callaghan who is a year younger. I was not impressed with Heinrich at center back. He played a lot of ball but I would have preferred if he had stayed at center back and support the backs. The Derry goal was simple in he way it was scored. Kerry players seemed to be unaware of such a tactic. Do the Kerry players (Minor & U20) practice to kick with both feet and hand pass with both hands. This is the type of individual training that will eventually separate the boys from the men. Just watch and follow what the Clifford brothers can do.
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Post by playitfair on Jul 19, 2021 18:39:20 GMT
Loved this years group of minors. What heart and determination they showed all through the year. They came up short yesterday but no shame in that. I suspect that if Caolan O'Connaill played they would not have conceded the two goals as he sat deep in front of the backs all year and it worked.
I would not be surprised if an above average number of them proceed through to the Senior ranks and I would be very optimistic about them to break our duck in the U20's. Not many of the Limerick senior hurling team have minor medals.
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Post by kerryexile on Jul 19, 2021 19:16:17 GMT
Massively underperformed in the second half. Hugely disappointing for the players after such a tough campaign. Heinrich the biggest prospect for me, a natural centre back and has done well throughout the campaign. Maunsell, Burke and Evans also very promising along with Dara O’Callaghan who is a year younger. I was not impressed with Heinrich at center back. He played a lot of ball but I would have preferred if he had stayed at center back and support the backs. The Derry goal was simple in he way it was scored. Kerry players seemed to be unaware of such a tactic. Do the Kerry players (Minor & U20) practice to kick with both feet and hand pass with both hands. This is the type of individual training that will eventually separate the boys from the men. Just watch and follow what the Clifford brothers can do. That is 2 games in 4 days where lack of one of the most basic of skills, the hand pass has cost Kerry victories. After 10 minutes it was obvious that the only way they could pass was the slow high looping hand pass that was telegraphed for 10 seconds before it happened. Any reasonably fit opponent would make up 4 or 5 yards while the ball was in flight. Apart from that Kerry were the more complete and more intelligent footballers but an Ulster team will try everything to stay in the game and soon twigged the passing. Its astonishing with all the development squads etc that this can happen. You are absolutely right about Paudie Clifford in particular, with the competition for places he has been and will be sending straight line bullets directly to the chest.
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