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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 10, 2020 10:47:38 GMT
South Kerry's dropout rate from u14s to senior is major and is seeing nearly every club have to join up with another just to field the bare 15 at underage leval. Its probably why we see south kerry teams in the bottom divisions at underage level Is it how SK teams are just starting with the bare 15 and once they lose a few there is no team - just 'natural wastage' as fellas age? I suppose one would need to understand the locality - outsiders think SK is all tourism but apart from towns I'd day winters are quiet enough? Let's have a conversation about say South of Tralee - So in order of economy you'd have 1. Killarney 2. Dingle 3, Killorglin - take us from there. I suppose Dingle would be more seasonal while Killorglin has FEXCo.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Dec 10, 2020 11:18:55 GMT
I think Dingle town presently doesn't have many teenagers but I think that might be a blip (due to recession?) rather than a trend.
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Post by mandad on Dec 10, 2020 12:15:29 GMT
I was at the top of Cnoc an Óir again a few days ago. For those not familiar with this place, it is the confluence of three parishes - Ballydonoghue, Ballylongford and Ballybunion. The panoramic view of North Kerry from its summit is exceptional and keeps drawing me back.
What struck me was the density of houses right across from Tralee Bay to the Shannon Estuary. Unlike the remainder of the county, very few of these would be holiday homes. There has to be a commensurate number of people living in these houses.
I know that there is not a lot of employment in the area and anyone who is familiar with the two main routes to Limerick would attest to the volume of traffic on these roads, morning and evening, en route to Foynes, Askeaton, and Limerick. I just wonder if there is some other underline reason for the poor representation from there?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 10, 2020 12:22:15 GMT
Just noticed Chairman Tim draws the comparison between East Kerry and NK with the former having 7 starters in the MF. While this reflects across the county, I suppose we need to figure out what is exceptionally good about EK that isn't so good about NK? Maybe a bit like the Dubs - money is a big issue but maybe also a vintage crop? Are Killarney and Killorglin the 2 most economically vibrant centres in the county - both in EK? While little can be done about either (i.e. money and talent) I wonder if EK are doing anything else that others aren't?
Hey Tomaisín, are people not moving back to Dingle, working remotely? Is there not a hub after sprouting up back there?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Dec 10, 2020 12:38:18 GMT
Just noticed Chairman Tim draws the comparison between East Kerry and NK with the former having 7 starters in the MF. While this reflects across the county, I suppose we need to figure out what is exceptionally good about EK that isn't so good about NK? Maybe a bit like the Dubs - money is a big issue but maybe also a vintage crop? Are Killarney and Killorglin the 2 most economically vibrant centres in the county - both in EK? While little can be done about either (i.e. money and talent) I wonder if EK are doing anything else that others aren't? Hey Tomaisín, are people not moving back to Dingle, working remotely? Is there not a hub after sprouting up back there? I would ignorantly guess that a big difference between NK and EK is schools. Similarly, PCD takes football very seriously (but I understand currently is even smaller than usual). I am not sure is that focus, drive, and energy in NK (and I apologise if I am incorrect on that). Again, perhaps ignorantly, my belief is that currently there are babies being born in WK (but that might be a bias based on my age).
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 10, 2020 12:42:30 GMT
I was at the top of Cnoc an Óir again a few days ago. For those not familiar with this place, it is the confluence of three parishes - Ballydonoghue, Ballylongford and Ballybunion. The panoramic view of North Kerry from its summit is exceptional and keeps drawing me back. What struck me was the density of houses right across from Tralee Bay to the Shannon Estuary. Unlike the remainder of the county, very few of these would be holiday homes. There has to be a commensurate number of people living in these houses. I know that there is not a lot of employment in the area and anyone who is familiar with the two main routes to Limerick would attest to the volume of traffic on these roads, morning and evening, en route to Foynes, Askeaton, and Limerick. I just wonder if there is some other underline reason for the poor representation from there? Be jazus man I didn't hear that Asdee had fallen down a hole - in the parish of Bally'? Must have been fairly clear if you had that kind of visibility though was it Mick Finucane who said that on the right day he could see from The Cliffs of Moher to some point way way down South Kerry. A few local hobos think it is the Hill of Slaughter though I'd contend it is the Hill of Golden Harvest, Cnoc an Fhómhair that came from Óir. Pity we have lost our tongue, and with it our senses? A lot of windfarms now, Tullahinell drives Microsoft - amazing! And at €1,000 an acre per year for solar farmers we won't be long finding out where the sun shines bright and hard to blame anyone for taking it with the constant pressure on farmers to expand or sell out. PS We could delve in a bit deeper here too and it all comes back to the one source, the real blight on the landscape, the new enemy, the enemy within, the insider dealer, dealing on the double.
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Post by seangalvin on Dec 10, 2020 12:54:41 GMT
[quote source="/post/244405/thread" timestamp="1607593108" author=" Is it how SK teams are just starting with the bare 15 and once they lose a few there is no team - just 'natural wastage' as fellas age? I suppose one would need to understand the locality - outsiders think SK is all tourism but apart from towns I'd day winters are quiet enough? Let's have a conversation about say South of Tralee - So in order of economy you'd have 1. Killarney 2. Dingle 3, Killorglin - take us from there. I suppose Dingle would be more seasonal while Killorglin has FEXCo. [/quote] South kerry is what you would call a seasonal town. It's dead quite in winter and picks up around may the next year. The population decline really has to do with the lack of any real opportunities coming to sk although the greenway is now in. This knock off of younger people has left a serious gap in underage football so bad that one year four clubs came together to form a minor team and still only had 23 players.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 10, 2020 14:12:30 GMT
Just noticed Chairman Tim draws the comparison between East Kerry and NK with the former having 7 starters in the MF. While this reflects across the county, I suppose we need to figure out what is exceptionally good about EK that isn't so good about NK? Maybe a bit like the Dubs - money is a big issue but maybe also a vintage crop? Are Killarney and Killorglin the 2 most economically vibrant centres in the county - both in EK? While little can be done about either (i.e. money and talent) I wonder if EK are doing anything else that others aren't? Hey Tomaisín, are people not moving back to Dingle, working remotely? Is there not a hub after sprouting up back there? I would ignorantly guess that a big difference between NK and EK is schools. Similarly, PCD takes football very seriously (but I understand currently is even smaller than usual). I am not sure is that focus, drive, and energy in NK (and I apologise if I am incorrect on that). Again, perhaps ignorantly, my belief is that currently there are babies being born in WK (but that might be a bias based on my age). You can expect a call from St Michaels Principal Johnny Mulvihill after that! I don't think any school in Kerry would neglect GAA and I'd say one would be as good the next. The only exception was our auld Master Liam de Bruin, him with a cross face seriously advocating that the Sam Maguire was only for boiling spuds, mind you Paudie & Eamonn O'Donoghue's got him back nicely by announcing a half day and Heaven will thank them as much as we did for that, God bless their souls.
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Post by veteran on Dec 10, 2020 15:54:55 GMT
Does anybody know if TG4 or any other entity will enable us to see the minor match next week ? I know Radio Kerry are transmitting a running commentary.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 10, 2020 16:22:14 GMT
Does anybody know if TG4 or any other entity will enable us to see the minor match next week ? I know Radio Kerry are transmitting a running commentary. It’s being shown on the TG4 YouTube channel.
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Post by veteran on Dec 10, 2020 17:01:33 GMT
Does anybody know if TG4 or any other entity will enable us to see the minor match next week ? I know Radio Kerry are transmitting a running commentary. It’s being shown on the TG4 YouTube channel. Thanks for that. Hope I will be able to poke that out.
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Post by seangalvin on Dec 10, 2020 20:47:27 GMT
The matchday 26 was selected tonight anyways for the game next tuesday
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Post by kerry97 on Dec 10, 2020 21:33:54 GMT
On the issue of Football in North Kerry its been in the doldrums for sometime in my view ( at Minor and Senior Level) . Presently no NK club is in division one and nobody looks capable of making the step up to the senior .
Shannon Rangers have made zero impact in the minor championship for a considerable period of time and Feale Rangers seem to be similar . On the schools none of them are playing "A" football.
Population decline is an issue to , many of the clubs frequently amalgamate at underage level and a number of the clubs are largely just trying to keep the show on the road . Much like many sides in South Kerry the majority of senior club sides are made up of the 18-22 age cohort with a few fellows in their 30s.
On North Kerry the district championship seems to take precedence over everything else. In short it feels like the height of many clubs ambitions.
Finally with so many of the clubs playing Division 4 and Division 5 football it seems players do not get exposed to different opposition enough. When you play North Kerry League , followed by County League with half the division from your district , a club championship with two of the teams in your group from your district and finally the NKC it seems rather repetitive.
Its similar to the issue with the hurlers , in order to improve they needed to play better opposition more frequently. The question for the county board is are they facilitating this for clubs in NK ?
Maybe a rethink of the County League is needed.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 11, 2020 2:21:21 GMT
It’s being shown on the TG4 YouTube channel. Thanks for that. Hope I will be able to poke that out. Hey Vet and anyone who may need any advice on hooking up your PC with your TV, just let us know on here and we can repost the instructions we got from the Listowel Mafia and who can also sync TG4 with Radio Kerry commentary, all it needs is a vice grips to squeeze the wire of whichever is ahead - and in that they have previous!
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Post by highballintostar on Dec 14, 2020 17:02:34 GMT
Thanks for that. Hope I will be able to poke that out. Hey Vet and anyone who may need any advice on hooking up your PC with your TV, just let us know on here and we can repost the instructions we got from the Listowel Mafia and who can also sync TG4 with Radio Kerry commentary, all it needs is a vice grips to squeeze the wire of whichever is ahead - and in that they have previous! Syncing the match to Radio Kerry commentary you say? Could you post whatever info you have on that please as I’ve my grandfather coming over for the match the next night and I don’t fancy using my ordinary level Irish to play translator for the commentary 😅
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Post by pintpleasejohn on Dec 14, 2020 21:31:38 GMT
Why is it there is no team released yet? A bit strange no?
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Post by seangalvin on Dec 14, 2020 21:32:42 GMT
Why is it there is no team released yet? A bit strange no? It's being released tommorow at lunchtime. Corks team already announced.
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Post by taibhse on Dec 14, 2020 22:05:11 GMT
The weather forecast for Tuesday and Wednesday is depressing. No luck with the weather this game either.
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Post by onlykerry on Dec 15, 2020 9:06:57 GMT
Hey Vet and anyone who may need any advice on hooking up your PC with your TV, just let us know on here and we can repost the instructions we got from the Listowel Mafia and who can also sync TG4 with Radio Kerry commentary, all it needs is a vice grips to squeeze the wire of whichever is ahead - and in that they have previous! Syncing the match to Radio Kerry commentary you say? Could you post whatever info you have on that please as I’ve my grandfather coming over for the match the next night and I don’t fancy using my ordinary level Irish to play translator for the commentary 😅 I wish you well in your attempts to sync radio Kerry to TG4 stream - two major challenges I fear. 1/ Getting the commentary in time with the video will be difficult. 2/ Reconcilling what radio Kerry is calling and the pictures you are watching could be dis-orientating to say the least - the score may be the only common denominator if past experiences are anything to go by.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Dec 15, 2020 9:18:17 GMT
All you need for TG4 is 'obair an gcapall'.
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Post by seangalvin on Dec 15, 2020 9:36:31 GMT
All you need for TG4 is 'obair an gcapall'. liathróid ard i íseal might also come in handy
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 15, 2020 11:44:12 GMT
Do ye know how to do it?
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Post by eastwarrior on Dec 15, 2020 12:13:36 GMT
Great to see 5 South Kerry based footballers on the panel tonight. That will be a brilliant boost to football in that part of the county. I must say from what I have seen from these players in various club games and minor county championship it seems like a much weaker team then the past 6 or 5 years. Hopefully, they can prove me wrong.
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Post by veteran on Dec 15, 2020 14:09:08 GMT
Any players from last year’s team/panel on duty. The only name I recognise is Oisin Maunsel.
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Post by seangalvin on Dec 15, 2020 14:18:02 GMT
Any players from last year’s team/panel on duty. The only name I recognise is Oisin Maunsel. I know cian o donoghue was there last year. Think the connell lad from castlegregory was also in there could be wrong on that one.
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Post by Jo90 on Dec 15, 2020 14:27:57 GMT
Hey Vet and anyone who may need any advice on hooking up your PC with your TV, just let us know on here and we can repost the instructions we got from the Listowel Mafia and who can also sync TG4 with Radio Kerry commentary, all it needs is a vice grips to squeeze the wire of whichever is ahead - and in that they have previous! Syncing the match to Radio Kerry commentary you say? Could you post whatever info you have on that please as I’ve my grandfather coming over for the match the next night and I don’t fancy using my ordinary level Irish to play translator for the commentary 😅 Translating Radio Kerry to English is even more of a challenge!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 15, 2020 15:04:05 GMT
Syncing the match to Radio Kerry commentary you say? Could you post whatever info you have on that please as I’ve my grandfather coming over for the match the next night and I don’t fancy using my ordinary level Irish to play translator for the commentary 😅 Translating Radio Kerry to English is even more of a challenge! Try Kerry's most famous pub, where fake news was invented, the only word of the truth that ever came out of their mouths.
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Post by Aodhan on Dec 15, 2020 16:01:37 GMT
Syncing the match to Radio Kerry commentary you say? Could you post whatever info you have on that please as I’ve my grandfather coming over for the match the next night and I don’t fancy using my ordinary level Irish to play translator for the commentary 😅 I can only tell you what works for me. My access to Radio Kerry is only by laptop, so you will have to use your laptop. It always runs about 30 seconds ahead of RTE, TG4 etc. have both browsers open. Pause RK at the throw in. As the ball is thrown in on TG4 start RK again, it will then be in sync. It has worked for me more times than I can remember, without fail, hopefully it works for you.
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Post by northkerry101 on Dec 15, 2020 17:15:32 GMT
Disgraceful that the extended panel cannot attend the match tonight, in spite of the same being offered to the Seniors at the weekend. These fellas have trained for over a year only to be able to watch the match at home on Youtube.
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Post by rapook on Dec 15, 2020 19:44:20 GMT
Paudie Leary is putting in some shift. Aaron o shea also doing well. Hopefully with aid of wind they’ll come through this. Cork not bad outfit. Midfield especially strong
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