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Post by Hicser on Jul 13, 2019 23:03:22 GMT
Dublin is third gear. Presumably there is a 4th and a 5th gear in them. We wont know till the semi. Totally disagree, the Dubs are a team worried about how good they are. I thought they were very lethargic tonight. Fitness won out, I’d imagine we would match them with that?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 14, 2019 0:28:01 GMT
I didnt see any of the Ross v Tyrone game but from reading the reports it seems that Conor Cox did well again On the radio it sounded like he struggled and was taken off.
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Post by dano on Jul 14, 2019 1:56:03 GMT
Hicser, That's what I thought too. The Cork team collectively tired at the last quarter. I think there was some redemption for Kerry in Cork's display tonight. And all this talk about how teams run through the middle V Kerry. The Dubs were ran through many times tonight. Dessy Dolan didn't keep bringing it up like he does when it happened with Us? ?.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 14, 2019 9:14:33 GMT
Dublin is third gear. Presumably there is a 4th and a 5th gear in them. We wont know till the semi. Totally disagree, the Dubs are a team worried about how good they are. I thought they were very lethargic tonight. Fitness won out, I’d imagine we would match them with that? Definitely fitness won this tonight and at times Dublin looked very ropey - Cian O'Sullivan destroyed by Paul Kerrigan, full back line opened up at times. Pity there was not some proper analysis from Brolly other than the usual eulogy about them and their efficiency etc! Think that Dublin will be well tested in the coming weeks - the Tyrone game will be a dead rubber of sorts given that they both should have 4 points at that stage but both will want to top the group; a semi final against ourselves/Mayo/Donegal will also be interesting. There's a lot of football to be played yet!!
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 14, 2019 9:18:12 GMT
Hicser, That's what I thought too. The Cork team collectively tired at the last quarter. I think there was some redemption for Kerry in Cork's display tonight. And all this talk about how teams run through the middle V Kerry. The Dubs were ran through many times tonight. Dessy Dolan didn't keep bringing it up like he does when it happened with Us? ?. I think mental fatigue kicked in before the legs went - Dublin's 3rd goal killed the game as a contest, academic after that. Cork scoring 1-17 will rankle with Gavin - throw in a few good stops by Cluxton, a shot from Hurley which should have been a pass to a better placed Connolly and it might have been a bit more interesting - Cork also had wides from scoreable positions ( just like the Munster final ) - they could have ended up with 2-20 easily.
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Post by thebluepanther on Jul 14, 2019 10:02:28 GMT
Totally disagree, the Dubs are a team worried about how good they are. I thought they were very lethargic tonight. Fitness won out, I’d imagine we would match them with that? Definitely fitness won this tonight and at times Dublin looked very ropey - Cian O'Sullivan destroyed by Paul Kerrigan, full back line opened up at times. Pity there was not some proper analysis from Brolly other than the usual eulogy about them and their efficiency etc! Think that Dublin will be well tested in the coming weeks - the Tyrone game will be a dead rubber of sorts given that they both should have 4 points at that stage but both will want to top the group; a semi final against ourselves/Mayo/Donegal will also be interesting. There's a lot of football to be played yet!! Id agree their is still a lot of football to be played in the coming weeks. Cork went for it and showed what good players they have . Kerrigan had a great game on both Cian and Davy Byrne , Connolly at times for Cork was very good also. Cork have some very good forwards well able to take their points. This was counteracted by the speed of Jack mc Caffrey and the fielding of Fenton and Brian Howard. The tackling back of Con and Mannion. This game was in the balance till the 60th minute . It was end to end with both teams being exposed a times , Cork more so as the game wore on. Missed goal chances by Dublin meant that Cork were always only a score or two away from Dublin and if they had of got a goal , would of put the cat among the pigeons. Although in truth you felt Dublin still would of had too much. Cork won a lot of breaking ball around the middle which Dublin wont be happy about and this was their platform for tagging on points , that meant they kept in touch. But Dublin kept going and really punished Cork in the last 10 mins. I thought the ref had a good game and made a good call on reversing our penalty. Also punished both teams equally for jersey pulling. I hope Cork really give Tyrone a go and although the scoreline suggests Dublin won comfortable this wasn't the case for large periods , they will get a lot of positives from last night. Dublin knew Cork would be open through the middle and gambled themselves, John small being given more licence to go forward. This allowed Cork opportunities if they won any ball from their own kickouts and indeed Dublins kickouts. A fast ball kicked in after being won from a turnover to the forward makes it very difficult for a defender to win these one on one battles in an open game. These scenarios created an exciting game for large portions. James mc Carthy and Johnny Cooper back next game with tighten up our defence. Having Dean back is like having a new player in the team. For Cork they have to keep up the intensity they showed last night and build from it, Tyrone wont allow them the freedom they got last night, but Cork have some very strong players and should cause Tyrone trouble in the air.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jul 14, 2019 10:32:27 GMT
I didnt see any of the Ross v Tyrone game but from reading the reports it seems that Conor Cox did well again On the radio it sounded like he struggled and was taken off. I watched it. While he scored one very good point from play off his left he struggled to make an impact on the game. He was very tightly marked, it was obvious that Tyrone saw him as a big threat. To be fair Tyrone are probably the toughest team in the game to play against for an inside forward. He did miss two dreadful frees which you would always expect him to put over. One was about 35 yards out perpendicular to the goals while the other one was from the 21 at an angle but one that suited a right footed kicker.
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Post by yourholiness on Jul 14, 2019 11:47:34 GMT
Connolly is back on Dublin panel . Apologies if already posted .
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 14, 2019 14:23:48 GMT
On the radio it sounded like he struggled and was taken off. I watched it. While he scored one very good point from play off his left he struggled to make an impact on the game. He was very tightly marked, it was obvious that Tyrone saw him as a big threat. To be fair Tyrone are probably the toughest team in the game to play against for an inside forward. He did miss two dreadful frees which you would always expect him to put over. One was about 35 yards out perpendicular to the goals while the other one was from the 21 at an angle but one that suited a right footed kicker. Fair
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 14, 2019 14:24:10 GMT
Connolly is back on Dublin panel . Apologies if already posted . I won't be interrupting them.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 15, 2019 12:26:57 GMT
Does anybody give Cork a chance against Tyrone? Personally I do as the style of football Cork are playing will trouble Tyrone and it would not shock me to see Cork emerge from the group with Dublin.
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Post by kot on Jul 15, 2019 12:46:23 GMT
When the Dubs get motoring like they did in the last 15 odd minutes they are sight to behold in all fairness. They just clinically dismantle teams. Breathtaking really.
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Post by kot on Jul 15, 2019 13:26:40 GMT
Couldn't help but notice Gough doing his little party piece, not noticing the action in front of him but making a big hullabaloo about tugs in the inside line.
Now I am all for ref's blowing up when one player is tugging and holding the other player and preventing him from getting free. But the calls I saw against Cork & Dublin was players barely reaching out their hands and being what you called touch tight. If this is what is going to be called then we might aswell all pack up and go home.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 16, 2019 14:48:41 GMT
Cork v Rossies moved to Pairc Ui Rinn as a new pitch will be laid in PUC
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 17, 2019 3:22:09 GMT
19183 turned up in Limerick. That does show that the Hyde was far too small if you think about it for a moment. Maybe however there is nothing wrong with a sell out? If the game had of been anywhere in Connaught it would have attracted at least 25,000. Still nothing wrong with a sellout in Hyde (they had some serious problems with flooding last year I think?), though would have generated alot of bad feeling that at least 6,000 couldn't get tickets, not to mention the loss of revenue. Which was lost anyway but not in focus because the attendance turned out smaller. I believe then one of the counties or both if you like should have agreed on a toss for venue. Mayo's home record has been poor enough anyway. I've been saying it for years but the lack of flexibility around deciding venues at times does few people any favours. Mayo and Galway going to Limerick was insane.
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Post by Hicser on Jul 19, 2019 21:54:27 GMT
Couldn't help but notice Gough doing his little party piece, not noticing the action in front of him but making a big hullabaloo about tugs in the inside line. Now I am all for ref's blowing up when one player is tugging and holding the other player and preventing him from getting free. But the calls I saw against Cork & Dublin was players barely reaching out their hands and being what you called touch tight. If this is what is going to be called then we might aswell all pack up and go home. Would agree, he seemed away too fussy,
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Post by kerryexile on Jul 19, 2019 22:24:39 GMT
A lot of people talking about Dublin taking over at the end.
I watched the game closely. Dublin led by 6 points at half time. They only extended that lead after about 63 minutes. In the intervening 28 minutes Cork threw everything at them and Dublin didn't have a footballing solution. They were literally waiting for Cork to run out of legs. Cork did and a goal came approx every 2 minutes after that.
I have said it several times, the team that can turn it into a football game will beat them.
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Post by Hicser on Jul 19, 2019 23:11:44 GMT
A lot of people talking about Dublin taking over at the end. I watched the game closely. Dublin led by 6 points at half time. They only extended that lead after about 63 minutes. In the intervening 28 minutes Cork threw everything at them and Dublin didn't have a footballing solution. They were literally waiting for Cork to run out of legs. Cork did and a goal came approx every 2 minutes after that. I have said it several times, the team that can turn it into a football game will beat them. Hmmm, what team can play that game? Total football,
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Jul 20, 2019 16:29:18 GMT
Cork tearing into Tyrone.
6 points up with 30 mins gone.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 20, 2019 16:40:21 GMT
half time
Cork 2.4 Tyrone 5 points
Cork got a goal after 15 seconds and created another great one after 20 mins.
Tyrone look flat and energy less. Cork should pull away in the second half by the looks of things.
Cork very good at probing the massed defence till the opening appears.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 20, 2019 17:48:19 GMT
Tyrone won by 2.15 to 2.12.
Totally different second half with Tyrone getting goals early in it, one a penalty.
Sean White, Corks CHF was taken off despite being one of their best players.
Dead rubber game v Rossies at home next. Cork can be very pleased overall.
They have come on very well tactically compared to last year.
Tyrone a bit more clinical upfront.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 20, 2019 17:48:50 GMT
Deegan obviously does not believe in black cards - Clancy & Taylor should have had one each in the 2nd half as should Tyrone defender who dragged down Powter off the ball! Why bother with the rules?
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Post by dc84 on Jul 20, 2019 17:50:44 GMT
Cork ran out of steam again Mattie Donnelly the difference. Tyrone aren't amazing really say dublin will beat them handy enough next week if they want
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 20, 2019 17:53:32 GMT
They should just toss for home advantage in these games....
It could have been great fun in front of 10k people in Omagh or Pairc ui Rinn.
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Post by givehimaball on Jul 20, 2019 18:00:13 GMT
When the ball was thrown up straight away Cork looked like a team who were fighting for their life as opposed to Tyrone who knew in thier souls that they were short odds to be playing in an All-Ireland semi-final in a few weeks.
The worry for Cork is that even after Tyrone's no-show first half Tyrone still managed to end up with 2-15.
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Jul 20, 2019 18:37:03 GMT
Remember Roscommon are the Connacht CHAMPIONS!
It's only going to get worse in the coming years.
The blue genie is well and truly out of the bottle.
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Post by kot on Jul 20, 2019 18:40:28 GMT
Reflections so far: Tyrone’s continued style of play makes them impossible to ever like/cheer for. Dublin going to win 5 in a row blindfolded.
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Post by john4 on Jul 20, 2019 19:02:45 GMT
Remember Roscommon are the Connacht CHAMPIONS! It's only going to get worse in the coming years. The blue genie is well and truly out of the bottle. Back in the day this would have been an all Ireland semi final!! There was good and bad teams back then too, but never a gulf as large as this.
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Post by dc84 on Jul 20, 2019 19:02:46 GMT
Ah sure it will be great once the 2nd tier "John horan" cup comes in it will be amazing!
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 20, 2019 19:24:54 GMT
Remember Roscommon are the Connacht CHAMPIONS! It's only going to get worse in the coming years. The blue genie is well and truly out of the bottle. The future is blue...
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