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Post by kerrygold on Aug 13, 2019 21:58:28 GMT
FFS they could have got the Popemobile for him so from across the road..................
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Post by jackiel on Aug 14, 2019 8:29:25 GMT
One of my big faults with the new system is the way it's all been condensed into a very tight time frame. Some of the occasion and meaning is being taken away from Semi Finals when they're played on a Sat & Sun of the same weekend. There should definitely be a gap of more than 6 days between QF & Semi's. It seems as if the games are an annoyance and they just want them over so they can go back to the corporate side of things. Not a good message to be sending to members who are volunteers. How did the red carpet & Michael Ds presence come to be on Saturday and not on Sunday. Who called this and why? I have no idea, I'm a lowly steward, we were given notice that he'd be passing through our area shortly before he arrived, I thought it strange at the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 8:35:57 GMT
Yet again more Dublin bias😡😡😡😜
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 14, 2019 8:37:16 GMT
How did the red carpet & Michael Ds presence come to be on Saturday and not on Sunday. Who called this and why? I have no idea, I'm a lowly steward, we were given notice that he'd be passing through our area shortly before he arrived, I thought it strange at the time. Poor optics just to do it for one game. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 14, 2019 10:21:27 GMT
A Dgal supporter tells me he is gutted worse than '14 that they haven't the Dubs as they thought they could do them over. I kinda believe the latter though not so sure I agree now that we really gave it to Tyrone. Still no logic to how we all fared against each other so anyone's guess.
Was also thinking myself that football would be as close as hurling if we had no Dubs and worse still, Brexit will overheat Dublin even more while hitting the weaker counties most, i.e. those with smaller farms and UK dependent tourism, the West half of Dgal will be crucified and there are signs already, and Kerry will also suffer.
Ah we have a bright 3 weeks ahead so let's wait until we meet the auld devil before we salute him, we already have one to take down on 1st Sept and to hell with Brexit if we do that!
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 14, 2019 11:29:37 GMT
I have no idea, I'm a lowly steward, we were given notice that he'd be passing through our area shortly before he arrived, I thought it strange at the time. Poor optics just to do it for one game. Red carpet treatment should be reserved for finals - MD can attend as many games he likes but the pagentry of final day should not be diluted by doing it on non final days. |
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Post by hatchetman on Aug 15, 2019 10:35:30 GMT
Interesting appointment. On paper Kildare probably have the best talent to come together since Micko's time in the 90's. Back then Kildare won Leinster minors in '83 & '87 and lost 3 u21 Leinster finals in a row in the late/early '80s/90s. In recent years Kildare have won 4 of the last seven Leinster minor championships and last years u20 All-Ireland. Looking forward to seeing how this one pans out. Kildare should make the Super 8s next year I would think. The best of luck to JOC in Kildare. Interesting appointment. I'm sure I read somewhere that John Sugrue is going to be part of his team. Good luck to them. |
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Post by buck02 on Aug 15, 2019 12:18:38 GMT
640 km round trip to training for Jack.
Kildare have big potential if they can get all their top players involved. You would imagine there will be a bounce next year at least with a new man in charge.
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Post by dc84 on Aug 15, 2019 15:56:46 GMT
640 km round trip to training for Jack. Kildare have big potential if they can get all their top players involved. You would imagine there will be a bounce next year at least with a new man in charge. I'm sure he could stay with his young lad(s) an 8 right he retired from C.N.S |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 15, 2019 20:35:21 GMT
I'd say he'll be doing Davy/Banty miles
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 15, 2019 22:02:59 GMT
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Post by buck02 on Aug 16, 2019 13:06:33 GMT
There was an interview in the Irish Times with Chris Barrett last Saturday. It was in the Business Section but could easily have been in the Sports section.
It showed a glimpse of exactly who difficult it is for Mayo to dine at the top table. Barrett describes leaving work at 3pm, getting a bus from Lucan with another 8 or 10 of his team mates to training in Castlebar and then returning back to Dublin around 12.30am. And being in the office again for 8am the next morning.
Then on a Friday he leaves work early, goes to training in Castlebar, drives another hour and a half home to Belmullet while his wife stays above in Dublin for the weekend.
Its a fascinating insight into how much more difficult it is for players from the likes of Mayo comparable to other counties.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 16, 2019 14:10:47 GMT
There was an interview in the Irish Times with Chris Barrett last Saturday. It was in the Business Section but could easily have been in the Sports section. It showed a glimpse of exactly who difficult it is for Mayo to dine at the top table. Barrett describes leaving work at 3pm, getting a bus from Lucan with another 8 or 10 of his team mates to training in Castlebar and then returning back to Dublin around 12.30am. And being in the office again for 8am the next morning. Then on a Friday he leaves work early, goes to training in Castlebar, drives another hour and a half home to Belmullet while his wife stays above in Dublin for the weekend. Its a fascinating insight into how much more difficult it is for players from the likes of Mayo comparable to other counties. Yeah, i read that. |
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Post by taibhse on Aug 16, 2019 14:30:52 GMT
What Jim Gavin has done successfully with Dublin is to instil a military discipline in his players to fulfil their aim. Soldiers are reminded frequently that they are government property, no longer an ordinary citizen. I’m not saying this is true of the Dublin players but there are strong parallels with respect to the physical and mental commitment these young men voluntarily make. You won’t see these lads turn their backs to a kick out or switch off for even a split second.
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Post by hatchetman on Aug 16, 2019 16:48:44 GMT
So for Chris Barrett a training session consumes 9.5 hours of which maybe 2 hours is actual training and 7.5 hours is travel on a cramped bus.
For Dublin players it's probably the opposite, 1 to 2 hours travel and 7 or 8 hours dedicated to training, video analysis etc ... but most importantly plenty of time for rest and recuperation.
It's similar to the way from the super 8s onwards Kerry, Mayo etc have one home game and 4 away from home.
For the Dubs it's the opposite, 4 home games and one (dead rubber) away game.
Tall about a level playing field... NOT.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 16, 2019 21:38:52 GMT
IrishExaminerOpen Menu
Super 8 tweaks planned to avoid potential dead rubbers
By Paul Keane
Friday, August 16, 2019 - 05:10 AM
The GAA is expected to tweak the Super 8s section of the football Championship for the 2020 campaign.
A series of alterations are anticipated to address the concerns raised this year, including the amount of dead rubber Phase 3 games.
This year’s Phase 3 games between Dublin-Tyrone and Cork-Roscommon were both dead rubbers as Dublin and Tyrone had already qualified for the All-Ireland semi-finals following Phase 2.
It’s understood that a solution favoured within Croke Park mirrors the suggestion offered by Tomás Ó Sé on The Sunday Game earlier this month.
The Kerry great proposed that the winners of the Phase 1 games would then be paired off against each other in Phase 2, reducing the likelihood of meaningless Phase 3 games.
Sources have also acknowledged a growing mood for change regarding the use of Croke Park for the All-Ireland quarter-final group stage.
It’s expected that the current round of games scheduled as ‘Croke Park games’ will be changed to a round of ‘neutral venue’ games.
GAA headquarters may still be used for certain neutral games, depending on the teams involved, but it means the vast majority of Super 8s games will be played at provincial venues.
Croke Park was more than half-empty for this year’s Phase 2 double-header involving Dublin-Roscommon and Cork-Tyrone when 36,530 paid in. The following day, 48,723 watched the double-header involving Meath-Mayo and Kerry-Donegal, prompting claims that the matches lacked atmosphere and should be shifted to provincial grounds.
Moving these games from Croke Park would also address the issue around Dublin playing two of their three Super 8s games at what is perceived as their home.
Ó Sé’s suggestion about continuing with a home game first for the provincial champions, followed by Phase 2 games between the winners of those Phase 1 matches, appears to have found support.
“Everybody is giving out about the Super 8s because of what happened in the Dublin-Tyrone group,” said Ó Sé after Dublin and Tyrone played eachother with weakened teams in Phase 3. “I think simple changes (could address this).
Number one, in the Tyrone-Dublin group, they won their first two games, if you put Tyrone against Dublin in their second game, then Tyrone have to win their last game. You’re only going to have a dead rubber here and there. Therefore, Tyrone have to win their last game and they’re not putting out (weakened teams).
The Super 8s have already been tweaked from the original format in 2018 when all Phase 1 games were played at Croke Park. It was felt that this was unfair on provincial winners so for 2019 they were guaranteed a home game first, followed by the Croke Park round and then an away match. But in Donegal’s case, this meant having to make a trip to Castlebar for a Phase 3 game against Mayo, a winner-takes-all encounter which the Ulster champions lost.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 16, 2019 21:52:17 GMT
Good changes.
Two week breaks from qualifiers and to semis might be ideas.
Might not be possible to do both. Would mean a three week break from prov final to Super 8s.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Aug 16, 2019 22:08:12 GMT
Reading the Killarney Advertiser just now - Adam Moynihan says fans coming from the game last Sunday had their cans confiscated in Heuston Station as the train to Kerry was deemed "alcohol free" by Irish Rail.
Anyone aware of this? Anyone here have their cans taken?
Is it a good idea?
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 16, 2019 22:40:24 GMT
So if Kerry and Dublin are provincial champs in 2020, where will they play..... Thurles?
Sources have also acknowledged a growing mood for change regarding the use of Croke Park for the All-Ireland quarter-final group stage.
It’s expected that the current round of games scheduled as ‘Croke Park games’ will be changed to a round of ‘neutral venue’ games.
GAA headquarters may still be used for certain neutral games, depending on the teams involved, but it means the vast majority of Super 8s games will be played at provincial venues.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Aug 16, 2019 23:10:13 GMT
So if Kerry and Dublin are provincial champs in 2020, where will they play..... Thurles? Sources have also acknowledged a growing mood for change regarding the use of Croke Park for the All-Ireland quarter-final group stage.
It’s expected that the current round of games scheduled as ‘Croke Park games’ will be changed to a round of ‘neutral venue’ games.
GAA headquarters may still be used for certain neutral games, depending on the teams involved, but it means the vast majority of Super 8s games will be played at provincial venues.
Group will be: Munster and Leinster champions, Ulster and Connacht runners-up or the team that beats said runners-up in round 4. Let's say for fun that the group will be: Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone and Mayo. Kerry could play Tyrone in Killarney, play Dublin in Thurles or Cork and play Mayo in Castlebar. Nice. |
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Post by exiled on Aug 16, 2019 23:24:00 GMT
So for Chris Barrett a training session consumes 9.5 hours of which maybe 2 hours is actual training and 7.5 hours is travel on a cramped bus. For Dublin players it's probably the opposite, 1 to 2 hours travel and 7 or 8 hours dedicated to training, video analysis etc ... but most importantly plenty of time for rest and recuperation. It's similar to the way from the super 8s onwards Kerry, Mayo etc have one home game and 4 away from home. For the Dubs it's the opposite, 4 home games and one (dead rubber) away game. Tall about a level playing field... NOT. I read this article as well and it shows the disparity between those in the Pale and the rest. Take into account then the effect all this has on players at the 18 to 22 age and how leaving home for college affects them. I have heard a story about a very well known player now whose dad took him out of a house share and put him in digs to stop him partying. Monday to Thursday only. It worked as he has a couple of all stars. |
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Post by glengael on Aug 17, 2019 7:11:01 GMT
Reading the Killarney Advertiser just now - Adam Moynihan says fans coming from the game last Sunday had their cans confiscated in Heuston Station as the train to Kerry was deemed "alcohol free" by Irish Rail. Anyone aware of this? Anyone here have their cans taken? Is it a good idea Alcohol free trains are not new. They've been the norm for quite a long time on match weekends. Announcements to that effect were being made at Heuston on Sunday morning when train I was on arrived there circa 10.45. There is usually also signage. It's a help I think. Having been stuck near a group loud rude 50 something Kerrymen swilling cans of lager one Sunday night some yrs back- any step that can reduce alcohol consumption is a good idea. |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 17, 2019 9:53:07 GMT
So if Kerry and Dublin are provincial champs in 2020, where will they play..... Thurles? Sources have also acknowledged a growing mood for change regarding the use of Croke Park for the All-Ireland quarter-final group stage.
It’s expected that the current round of games scheduled as ‘Croke Park games’ will be changed to a round of ‘neutral venue’ games.
GAA headquarters may still be used for certain neutral games, depending on the teams involved, but it means the vast majority of Super 8s games will be played at provincial venues.
Group will be: Munster and Leinster champions, Ulster and Connacht runners-up or the team that beats said runners-up in round 4. Let's say for fun that the group will be: Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone and Mayo. Kerry could play Tyrone in Killarney, play Dublin in Thurles or Cork and play Mayo in Castlebar. Nice. It would be a small step to allow counties enter into their own home and away arrangements for super 8 games |
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 17, 2019 12:55:20 GMT
Group will be: Munster and Leinster champions, Ulster and Connacht runners-up or the team that beats said runners-up in round 4. Let's say for fun that the group will be: Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone and Mayo. Kerry could play Tyrone in Killarney, play Dublin in Thurles or Cork and play Mayo in Castlebar. Nice. It would be a small step to allow counties enter into their own home and away arrangements for super 8 games Big championship games in the provincial towns have proven to be a big winner for football. Bringing football around the country is the way to go forward. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 17, 2019 13:44:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 14:15:54 GMT
And yet people still publicize it
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 17, 2019 14:17:35 GMT
And yet people still publicize it I deleted the post. In my defense, the post was about ridiculing rather than publicising, but I took your implied advice. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 14:36:15 GMT
And yet people still publicize it I deleted the post. In defense my post was more about ridiculing more than publicising but taking your implied advice. Ah, I know that. I might have been a bit harsh with my response also. I’ve just had enough of that particular issue! |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 17, 2019 22:34:36 GMT
BREAKING: Joe O'Connor to leave Limerick Senior hurling set up
It has been confirmed that Limerick Hurling Strength and Condition coach Joe O'Connor has tendered his resignation to Limerick County Board. O'Connor, who is a native of Rathkeale, currently lives in Tralee. The former Clare All-Ireland winning S&C coach played a big role in Limerick's 2018 Liam MacCarthy success.
"He has a young family and lives in Tralee and it was a huge commitment for him to come up to Limerick up to four times a week and also on Sunday's for matches. He will be a big loss," said a source close to the Limerick Senior hurling camp.
The Tralee IT lecturer has been with the Limerick panel since the 2016 season, where he was appointed by TJ Ryan. The forward thinking and innovative coach also played a part in the RTE series, Ireland's fittest family.
O'Connor would be the second member of the All-Ireland winning backroom team to step aside following selector Jimmy Quilty's departure last season.
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Post by homerj on Aug 18, 2019 19:27:24 GMT
BREAKING: Joe O'Connor to leave Limerick Senior hurling set up It has been confirmed that Limerick Hurling Strength and Condition coach Joe O'Connor has tendered his resignation to Limerick County Board. O'Connor, who is a native of Rathkeale, currently lives in Tralee. The former Clare All-Ireland winning S&C coach played a big role in Limerick's 2018 Liam MacCarthy success. "He has a young family and lives in Tralee and it was a huge commitment for him to come up to Limerick up to four times a week and also on Sunday's for matches. He will be a big loss," said a source close to the Limerick Senior hurling camp. The Tralee IT lecturer has been with the Limerick panel since the 2016 season, where he was appointed by TJ Ryan. The forward thinking and innovative coach also played a part in the RTE series, Ireland's fittest family. O'Connor would be the second member of the All-Ireland winning backroom team to step aside following selector Jimmy Quilty's departure last season. who is our current S&C coach? S&C, given our current age profile, is crucial to us knocking the dubs off their perch over the next 3 years. |
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