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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 24, 2019 22:22:50 GMT
I thought micheal geaney had a massive impact when he came on in the second half . All the new players continue to impress, is Paul geaney injured or dropped for a loss of form ? Reports of a small operation.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Feb 24, 2019 22:25:42 GMT
I thought micheal geaney had a massive impact when he came on in the second half . All the new players continue to impress, is Paul geaney injured or dropped for a loss of form ? Injured I believe. Does anybody know where Moran is? I didn’t hear of an injury or any other reason for his abscence. Our lads really have to be commended for today going up there without Clifford, JOD, Geaney, Moran and all the Crokes lads was a tall order. I know Galway were under strength too but fair play to each and every one of our players to dig out that result. I know it’s only February but I’m really liking what I am seeing so far. Couple of lads are really staking a claim for the summer which is great.
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Post by southward on Feb 24, 2019 22:40:09 GMT
Did Danny Cummins palm that goal from out of his own hand? I can't make it out even on repeat showing but it should have been disallowed if he did.
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Post by dano on Feb 24, 2019 23:00:05 GMT
Kerry let Galway bully them last year in super8 game in croker.Only v Monaghan and later Kildare did they get going but it was too late. That didnt happen today, even without D Clifford they had Galway's number all day. Their free taker's antics near the sideline, feigning injury, were Oscar material. Agree O se took a good few steps but about time we are getting the rub of the green. The Munster championship is no good to Kerry nowadays but a league final V the Dubs is as good as it gets as regards preparation for the Summer. Another great day for Kerry today. Congrats to all involved.
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Post by stevieq on Feb 24, 2019 23:12:05 GMT
I think we will be erecting statues of Paul Murphy in years to come. For such a light looking guy - he’s immense!!! He runs in to trouble too much won’t get away with that against Dublin they’d blow him out of the water in championship. Is say wel get to the final against Dublin and unless we get our house in order in the full back line and work in the high ball we are in for a serious hammering Reckon you’re a glass half empty kind of guy
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 24, 2019 23:38:53 GMT
Reckon you’re a glass half empty kind of guy Nope, the glass is just 2 times bigger than it needs to be, but time will tell all I would say is calm down we beat a poor Tyrone team that got off to a bad start, Cavan who more than likely will be relegated, Dublin who still had jet lag from there holidays, and today a poor Galway team who you will notice later were only a flash in the pan team last year. We’re the 2nd or 3rd best team in the country with s lot of work to be done. We really need Someone like Eanna TP from an Ghaeltacht in there. That pearse fella from annascaul in goal to me is a very good player under high ball in goal People on here were calling for Shane Ryan for the last 2 years. One mistake and its ok lets replace him?? The lad is doing fine, give the lad some time.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Feb 24, 2019 23:46:38 GMT
Reckon you’re a glass half empty kind of guy Nope, the glass is just 2 times bigger than it needs to be, but time will tell all I would say is calm down we beat a poor Tyrone team that got off to a bad start, Cavan who more than likely will be relegated, Dublin who still had jet lag from there holidays, and today a poor Galway team who you will notice later were only a flash in the pan team last year. We’re the 2nd or 3rd best team in the country with s lot of work to be done. We really need Someone like Eanna TP from an Ghaeltacht in there. That pearse fella from annascaul in goal to me is a very good player under high ball in goal [br O good god!!! Very positive here!! At the start of the year we hoped to avoid relegation. Now we are close to a league final!! Some people are mind boggling
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Feb 25, 2019 0:30:52 GMT
Agree re Stephen O’Brien, probably a sensible card from joe. Didn’t think this Galway team had the pace from last spring especially in the half forward line. Great result, especially the manner of it. Since the black card is to cut out cynical play, how was what SOB did cynical. It was a yellow card by the rule book Is the rule not to drag down or to attempt to drag down deliberately? I dont think cynical is mentioned apart from the section being called cynical behaviour fouls in the wording. It was definitely a deliberate drag down.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Feb 25, 2019 1:18:34 GMT
People on here were calling for Shane Ryan for the last 2 years. One mistake and its ok lets replace him?? The lad is doing fine, give the lad some time. Well seemingly Shane Murphy is doing public speaking courses for when he has to do a speech in this years munster final when we win so he’s pretty sure hel be back guarding the nets. If in doubt punch it out was a great one when we were 12 years of age now at senior level you need to be sure where that ball is going Do we have a goalkeeping coach ? That’s a bad habit that’s not gone away someone’s not doing their job. But no need for panic yet Ryan is leaving the door open for murphy and to a lesser extent Kelly but that’s what we want as fans genuine competition for all 15 slots
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 25, 2019 6:28:28 GMT
Since the black card is to cut out cynical play, how was what SOB did cynical. It was a yellow card by the rule book Is the rule not to drag down or to attempt to drag down deliberately? I dont think cynical is mentioned apart from the section being called cynical behaviour fouls in the wording. It was definitely a deliberate drag down. The Referees Handbook also mentions the word cynical. The black card wasn't brought in to curb dangerous play. If O'Brien's black was technically correct then I reckon that rule doesn't do what it is designed to do.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 25, 2019 7:21:35 GMT
People on here were calling for Shane Ryan for the last 2 years. One mistake and its ok lets replace him?? The lad is doing fine, give the lad some time. Well seemingly Shane Murphy is doing public speaking courses for when he has to do a speech in this years munster final when we win so he’s pretty sure hel be back guarding the nets. If in doubt punch it out was a great one when we were 12 years of age now at senior level you need to be sure where that ball is going Murphy had a few wobbles last year and we were conceding a savage amount of goals. Not his fault either we were all over the place. Its shanes 4th senior game, He has one thing both kelly and Murphy dont and thats presence. He will be number 1 come the summer.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 25, 2019 8:46:46 GMT
It seened to me that the Galway player got his fist to the ball a milli second before Shane Murphy got his fist to it. It shot straight up in the ball as a result.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 25, 2019 9:17:35 GMT
Another positive weekend on the road for Kerry. Kerry won because they were the better team and had a lot more ambition in attack than Galway did. A big dig out and response from Kerry after Galway's late lucky goal.
Looking at the result in Croker and seeing all teams taking points of each other it looks like the chasing pack, Kerry aside, are all falling further behind Dublin.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 25, 2019 9:32:46 GMT
Monaghan dont have the panel to keep performing at a consistently high level year in year out. They draw from 50k or 60k as do Cavan and Roscommon. Football needs Cork, Kildare and Meath to become competitive again.
Only one county from Munster and Leinster in this division is shocking really.
The next decade looks like it will be a shoot out between Dublin and Kerry, which is a bad sign for the health of the game.
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Post by whacker on Feb 25, 2019 9:43:31 GMT
Reckon you’re a glass half empty kind of guy Nope, the glass is just 2 times bigger than it needs to be, but time will tell all I would say is calm down we beat a poor Tyrone team that got off to a bad start, Cavan who more than likely will be relegated, Dublin who still had jet lag from there holidays, and today a poor Galway team who you will notice later were only a flash in the pan team last year. We’re the 2nd or 3rd best team in the country with s lot of work to be done. We really need Someone like Eanna TP from an Ghaeltacht in there. That pearse fella from annascaul in goal to me is a very good player under high ball in goal Eanna Tp and pearse ? not sure is this a piss take or not
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 25, 2019 9:45:00 GMT
Has it not always been Kerry or Dublin, both together and a county that comes along every now and again, Meath, Galway, Offaly and who ever? Nothing really new there. Football standards outside of the top tier have failed to respond to the influx of modern science/influence to the game. As you were it would seem. Football standards have been run of the mill for over a hundred years in the main. We now just have a shark living in the goldfish bowl - Dublin, best home pitch in the country, finance and population that is unrivalled elsewhere.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 25, 2019 10:12:03 GMT
Has it not always been Kerry or Dublin, both together and a county that comes along every now and again, Meath, Galway, Offaly and who ever? Nothing really new there. Football standards outside of the top tier have failed to respond to the influx of modern science/influence to the game. As you were it would seem. Football standards have been run of the mill for over a hundred years in the main. We now just have a shark living in the goldfish bowl - Dublin, best home pitch in the country, finance and population that is unrivalled elsewhere. Kerry used to be the big shark, a football county in a mainly hurling province with a big population twice the size of many of its opponents over the years such as Offaly, Cavan, Down or whoever happened to rise up. Dublin depended on a lot of outsiders based in Dublin till the housing estates like Marino built when FF came to power in the 30s gave rise to Heffo and the Dubs of the 50s. Dublin is the big shark now as it is finally realising its potential thanks to good organisation and limitless players and money and a lot of other advantages. The reasons why Kerry won so much have now transferred to Dublin. Kerry will have to run very hard to stand still against Dublin. Its clear that the flush of good minors are starting to emerge. The GAA should be very grateful to Kerry for investing so much in youth over the past decade.
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Post by oldschool on Feb 25, 2019 10:56:33 GMT
Did Danny Cummins palm that goal from out of his own hand? I can't make it out even on repeat showing but it should have been disallowed if he did. Looks to me like he threw it.
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Post by kerryexile on Feb 25, 2019 10:58:48 GMT
Some newspapers reporting that Kerry did a lot of lateral passing which is fair enough. But Kerry have nothing to apologise for. They are achieving everything that you would want them to in the league. Yesterday they encountered a very defensive team. It was interesting watching them trying to create that opening. They tried a few things that didn’t come off like Tommy hitting a high one in under the post to Gavin O’Brien and it being one foot away from Gavins hand. No doubt Peter and Donie will have noted things like this for attention in April and May. As another poster has said they must also come up with a way of getting better return from Tommy’s offensive marks.
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Post by oldschool on Feb 25, 2019 11:06:06 GMT
I've said it before but I think it needs saying again and running the risk of being mauled on this forum I say we should look to Dubs style of play in the Forwards. Straight on, kicking points from anywhere around the D. Straight kicking. Very seldom is there need to screw the ball off the boot. Is it heresy to say " copy Dubs forward style " I'm saying this with good of Kerry in mind. Ouch , I can feel them already Yes, I know that Dubs go Lateral at times but please study their forward play and how they take scores
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Post by whacker on Feb 25, 2019 11:25:30 GMT
Eanna Tp and pearse ? not sure is this a piss take or not Dead serious whacker do you not agree pearse destroyed Dingle with his kick outs in the WK final. And also on a serious note you have Eanna would be as good if not better than Fenton on his day. What about Jack Dooley from Dingle is he back home n the nets for them does anyone know? Enough said , eanna had his chance and didn't take it and comparing him to fenton just shows you are taking the piss, its like comparing a lada to a porsche . I thing jack dooley is playing rugby professionally in russia .
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Post by veteran on Feb 25, 2019 11:50:46 GMT
That was a very pleasing win yesterday, hard earned, especially after conceding a ridiculous goal towards the end. Apart from gaining two more points, the most gratifying aspect of the game that once more, as in the Cavan and Dublin matches, we had the resilience and attitude to survive a few body blows and breast the tape at the end. To heighten the pleasure it is noteworthy that the young colts were to the forefront in snatching these victories.
There were times when the match was ugly, particularly in the first half, and if one had not a vested interest in the outcome one would have been tempted to tune out and while away the afternoon in a different mode. Thankfully the game opened up towards the end of the first half, when Kerry put down the foundations for victory, and in the second half when Galway gave a hint of what they are capable of by attacking with greater frequency and no little success. Surely this is Galway's only hope in the future and they seem to have the forwards to execute that approach especially with a few top notchers to return. The hope is that Kevin Walsh may yet see the light.
Watching the match on TV gives a bird's eye view of various aspects of a game but you get a more rounded view by being present and I presume lads who were there will give us that perspective. Accordingly, my opinion is that of the armchair pundit, a dangerous species.
After the Dublin match , I said that Shane Ryan had still not nailed down the goal keeping spot. He did not advance his cause yesterday, costing us a goal and a point, a big total in a relatively low scoring game. The goal could have cost us the match. Now, Shane may still be our best option here and may consolidate that role before the NFL is completed. The basic rule for a goalie who decides to come out for a high ball is you only come out if you are are sure of making a secure connection and ,ideally , taking a forward or two with you. Otherwise you stay put. Shane did something similar against Tyrone, without paying the ultimate price, and of course he flapped at another one against Dublin. I concede that he is new to the setup but could it be that EF had a point- are these lapses due to the fact that he does not play in goal for his club? Time will tell.
The full back line once more looked secure and, importantly, Jack Sherwood is not putting a foot wrong so far. It was interesting that Jason Foley was not the one to replace Shane Enright.
Our midfielders did not appear to be that prominent, from the armchair at least. I do not recall either of them catching a high one and a lot of breaks were picked up by Galway players. Tommy Walsh caught a few mighty ones when he wandered out there. If Tommy could approach within a mile of his 2009 form it would be an unexpected bonus.
As I said before , Diarmuid O'Connor is a long term investment and of course he was not helped by picking up a yellow card. Replaced by Jonathan? I feel Jonathan has been recycled too often. I am not sure he has much to give now. He had a promising debut as a wingback a few years back but had his development stalled by trying to make a wing forward out of him. In contrast the precocious Dara Moynihan continues to delight. Gavin O'Brien scored two important points , one could have been goal. It is difficult not to be impressed by this apprentice. Experience and an inter county level of fitness should make this man a formidable opponent for anybody.
Stephen O'Brien was one of our main men yesterday and we possibly could have come home with our tail between our legs without his contribution. But Stephen, a friendly word from the armchair: When you win your free walk away and be grateful. Your tackle on the corner back, very likely deserved, was a very dangerous one and could have merited a red card. Late in the game you got a black cad for pulling down a defender. Could you not have made a half decent effort at executing a tackle and, if needs be, commit a foul without incurring a black card. Do these cards accumulate? I am singling out Stephen because he now is one of our main players and is too important to be warming the bench. Donie Buckley please note.
Kerry won the junior All-Ireland two years ago and I saw most of their games thereby getting a good glimpse of Tomas O'Se. Therefore I am not a bit surprised at what he gave us yesterday. Unlike say, Mikey Geaney or Jonathan, this garsun is a forward by instinct , full of gumption and brio. Give him a sniff and he will hare towards that goal. Could be an exciting addition.
Monaghan in Killarney next Sunday I believe. The armchair will have to find other company.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 25, 2019 12:09:11 GMT
In the interests of fairness I might point out that the tackle that led to Tomás Sé's "breakway" point was made by Stephen O'Brien.
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Post by clarinman on Feb 25, 2019 12:09:52 GMT
That was a very pleasing win yesterday, hard earned, especially after conceding a ridiculous goal towards the end. Apart from gaining two more points, the most gratifying aspect of the game that once more, as in the Cavan and Dublin matches, we had the resilience and attitude to survive a few body blows and breast the tape at the end. To heighten the pleasure it is noteworthy that the young colts were to the forefront in snatching these victories. There were times when the match was ugly, particularly in the first half, and if one had not a vested interest in the outcome one would have been tempted to tune out and while away the afternoon in a different mode. Thankfully the game opened up towards the end of the first half, when Kerry put down the foundations for victory, and in the second half when Galway gave a hint of what they are capable of by attacking with greater frequency and no little success. Surely this is Galway's only hope in the future and they seem to have the forwards to execute that approach especially with a few top notchers to return. The hope is that Kevin Walsh may yet see the light. Watching the match on TV gives a bird's eye view of various aspects of a game but you get a more rounded view by being present and I presume lads who were there will give us that perspective. Accordingly, my opinion is that of the armchair pundit, a dangerous species. After the Dublin match , I said that Shane Ryan had still not nailed down the goal keeping spot. He did not advance his cause yesterday, costing us a goal and a point, a big total in a relatively low scoring game. The goal could have cost us the match. Now, Shane may still be our best option here and may consolidate that role before the NFL is completed. The basic rule for a goalie who decides to come out for a high ball is you only come out if you are are sure of making a secure connection and ,ideally , taking a forward or two with you. Otherwise you stay put. Shane did something similar against Tyrone, without paying the ultimate price, and of course he flapped at another one against Dublin. I concede that he is new to the setup but could it be that EF had a point- are these lapses due to the fact that he does not play in goal for his club? Time will tell. The full back line once more looked secure and, importantly, Jack Sherwood is not putting a foot wrong so far. It was interesting that Jason Foley was not the one to replace Shane Enright. Our midfielders did not appear to be that prominent, from the armchair at least. I do not recall either of them catching a high one and a lot of breaks were picked up by Galway players. Tommy Walsh caught a few mighty ones when he wandered out there. If Tommy could approach within a mile of his 2009 form it would be an unexpected bonus. As I said before , Diarmuid O'Connor is a long term investment and of course he was not helped by picking up a yellow card. Replaced by Jonathan? I feel Jonathan has been recycled too often. I am not sure he has much to give now. He had a promising debut as a wingback a few years back but had his development stalled by trying to make a wing forward out of him. In contrast the precocious Dara Moynihan continues to delight. Gavin O'Brien scored two important points , one could have been goal. It is difficult not to be impressed by this apprentice. Experience and an inter county level of fitness should make this man a formidable opponent for anybody. Stephen O'Brien was one of our main men yesterday and we possibly could have come home with our tail between our legs without his contribution. But Stephen, a friendly word from the armchair: When you win your free walk away and be grateful. Your tackle on the corner back, very likely deserved, was a very dangerous one and could have merited a red card. Late in the game you got a black cad for pulling down a defender. Could you not have made a half decent effort at executing a tackle and, if needs be, commit a foul without incurring a black card. Do these cards accumulate? I am singling out Stephen because he now is one of our main players and is too important to be warming the bench. Donie Buckley please note. Kerry won the junior All-Ireland two years ago and I saw most of their games thereby getting a good glimpse of Tomas O'Se. Therefore I am not a bit surprised at what he gave us yesterday. Unlike say, Mikey Geaney or Jonathan, this garsun is a forward by instinct , full of gumption and brio. Give him a sniff and he will hare towards that goal. Could be an exciting addition. Monaghan in Killarney next Sunday I believe. The armchair will have to find other company. I thought our full back line was a little shaky yesterday. Sherwood played more as a half back and drove forward well. Galways first 2 points were due to Gavin Crowley being isolated inside on the Galway 15 Lee. Gavin is not a corner back and should not be left in that position. McHugh also caused us problems when he came in corner forward. It was Mikey Geaney, not Jonathan Lyne who replaced Diarmuid O'Connor at half time. Lyne came on with about 10 minutes to go for Gavin O'Brien I believe. I thought Kerry were very slow to use the bench yesterday. Galway had used all 5 subs before we used our second. Stephen 0'Brien received a yellow card rather than a black at the end. This along with his earlier black card resulted in a red.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Feb 25, 2019 12:11:34 GMT
I've said it before but I think it needs saying again and running the risk of being mauled on this forum I say we should look to Dubs style of play in the Forwards. Straight on, kicking points from anywhere around the D. Straight kicking. Very seldom is there need to screw the ball off the boot. Is it heresy to say " copy Dubs forward style " I'm saying this with good of Kerry in mind. Ouch , I can feel them already Yes, I know that Dubs go Lateral at times but please study their forward play and how they take scores Your right about that many times yesterday a point was on but because of lack of belief or competence the shot was not taken also common to see yesterday and other day where because the ball was on the so called weaker foot then the shot was not taken hence the constant recycling , I said earlier we need the goal keeper coach to work on a few items but we also need a designated skills coach to improve kicking skills Or let’s have a kicking coach dedicated to scoring and passing skills only why not .Shane Enright scored a good point yesterday but should have scored the second an easier one than the first SOS probably does many extra hours per week kicking point the others needs at Least one hour per week at this alone. Tom o sullivan scored a crucial point for us yesterday but should have had two more at least we have to work on this both feet all players all the time . Especiially now that our backs may need to score more than our forwards And yes the straight kick off the laces when getting a clear shot why not should be basic with a back spin for some elevation and traction. The Dubs do it as poster above said but watch the ladies game that’s a standard kick and if someone done the stats I’d swear the success rate of scores from shots is much higher in the ladies game . Didn’t mean to digress to much but had to reinforce the good point made by the last poster food for thought .
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 25, 2019 12:27:27 GMT
Great report as usual veteran, you did not miss much from your armchair!
I am with you on Shane Ryan and his penchant for fisting the ball in flight as opposed to catching it - no excuses for yesterday's mistake but hopefully its one he will learn from.
Mark Griffin did a lot of good work around the pitch and his athleticism in this area was a help - Jack Barry was too quiet for my liking and needs to step up in the upcoming games.
I would not be too critical of Stephen O'Brien regarding his card - the Galway defender was holding onto him limpet like and despite O'Brien attempting to dislodge him, he was having none of it - the card probably should have been a yellow for dangerous play as opposed to a black card - disappointing that the opposition defender escaped any sanction.
I think that Kerry should appeal this card similar to the black Denis Bastick received a few years ago in Killarney when dragging down Star in a hop ball - Dublin appealed this decision and had it changed to a yellow; black cards are cumulative and bearing in mind that Stephen also picked up one in last year's Munster final, think its worth having it rescinded if possible. He took one for the team at the end but it maybe could have been avoided.
I was speaking to some Galway supporters during the game and none seemed happy with Kevin Walsh's tactics - public opinion may change his way of thinking if results fail!
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 25, 2019 17:46:15 GMT
Any news on David Moran or Adrian Spillane?
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Post by taggert on Feb 25, 2019 18:18:03 GMT
Great report as usual veteran, you did not miss much from your armchair! I am with you on Shane Ryan and his penchant for fisting the ball in flight as opposed to catching it - no excuses for yesterday's mistake but hopefully its one he will learn from. Mark Griffin did a lot of good work around the pitch and his athleticism in this area was a help - Jack Barry was too quiet for my liking and needs to step up in the upcoming games. I would not be too critical of Stephen O'Brien regarding his card - the Galway defender was holding onto him limpet like and despite O'Brien attempting to dislodge him, he was having none of it - the card probably should have been a yellow for dangerous play as opposed to a black card - disappointing that the opposition defender escaped any sanction. I think that Kerry should appeal this card similar to the black Denis Bastick received a few years ago in Killarney when dragging down Star in a hop ball - Dublin appealed this decision and had it changed to a yellow; black cards are cumulative and bearing in mind that Stephen also picked up one in last year's Munster final, think its worth having it rescinded if possible. He took one for the team at the end but it maybe could have been avoided. I was speaking to some Galway supporters during the game and none seemed happy with Kevin Walsh's tactics - public opinion may change his way of thinking if results fail! I thought Mark Griffin did v well. Got on more ball in one game than Adrian Spillane did in the entirety of the previous 3. Was also v economical in possession.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 25, 2019 18:37:02 GMT
Galway provided a good test on whether Kerry have the smarts to unpick a massed defence.
The jury is out i am afraid on that aspect as the moment.
Dublin use Cooper and Philly as auxilliary attackers to pull and stretch a defense to create the vital bit of an opening.
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 25, 2019 19:04:38 GMT
Galway provided a good test on whether Kerry have the smarts to unpick a massed defence. The jury is out i am afraid on that aspect as the moment. Dublin use Cooper and Philly as auxilliary attackers to pull and stretch a defense to create the vital bit of an opening. The use of Shane Enright out wide was a similar tactic with Sherwood breaking through the middle. Enright’s deployment out wide worked well especially in the first half; Sherwood got well forward too even late in the game when he fielded a ball on the Galway “21”.
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