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Post by southward on Feb 23, 2019 21:25:54 GMT
by Mortimer Murphy Kerry manager Peter Keane has a simple mantra in terms of developing and nurturing new talent. “What we are trying to do is getting players to play for Kerry for the first time or very early in their careers. You are then trying to get them not to just play for Kerry but deliver for Kerry. They had the wrong Keane in the Irish soccer setup! Peter would have made sure Rice would have gotten an early competitive cap! F*ck Rice.
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Post by clarinman on Feb 23, 2019 22:14:22 GMT
We're top now on scoring difference after Mayos defeat to Dublin.To a lot of informed people Mayo are the big threat to Dublin 5 in a row.On tonight's evidence there a mile off. Multiple wides and no punch. In fairness pillar mayo have been well beaten in Croke park in the league over the last 6 years. Those results had no bearing on what happened the following August/September.
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Post by kerryexile on Feb 23, 2019 22:36:13 GMT
We're top now on scoring difference after Mayos defeat to Dublin.To a lot of informed people Mayo are the big threat to Dublin 5 in a row.On tonight's evidence there a mile off. Multiple wides and no punch. You are right, Mayo were desperate. Maybe they are not interested. For all the talk about the league being the better competition, performances like this make a joke of the league. Of course it could be that this Mayo team are over the hill and this is as good as they are. Dublin were not overly impressive either. They won 1 - 16 to 0 - 7. That might be considered a good win but considering that Mayo were so bad Dublin never got into a fluent run and lead by only 1 - 9 to 0 - 6 coming up to 70 minutes - there was 7 minutes added on. A lot can be learned from watching players when they are not playing to a strict game plan. Con O'C can only thinks of a goal when he gets possession which I guess in modern parlance could be described as bad decision making. They did not support each each other very well - no instinctive running - which begs the question what will happen the day that the game plan doesn't work in the championship.
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Feb 23, 2019 22:46:59 GMT
1 (GK) Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rathmore 2 Peter Crowley Peadar Ó Cruadhlaoich Laune Rangers 3 Jack Sherwood Seán Sherwood Firies 4 Shane Enright Sean Mac Ionrachtaigh Tarbert 5 Gavin Crowley Gabhin Ó Crualaidh Templenoe 6 Paul Murphy Pól Ó Murchú Rathmore 7 Tom O'Sullivan Tomás Ó Súilleabháin Dingle 8 Jack Barry Jeaic de Barra Na Gaeil 9 Mark Griffin Marc Ó Grifín St Michaels/Foilmore 10 Diarmuid O'Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil 11 Sean O'Shea Seán Ó Sé Kenmare 12 Gavin O'Brien Gabhin Ó Briain Kerins O'Rahillys 13 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Killarney 14 Tommy Walsh Tomás Breathnach Kerins O'Rahillys 15 Stephen O'Brien Stiofán Ó Briain Kenmare 16 (GK) Brian Kelly Brian Ó Ceallaigh Killarney Legion 17 Jonathan Lyne Ionatán Ó Leighin Killarney Legion 18 Michael Geaney Micheál Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle 19 Tadhg Morley Tadhg Ó Muraile Templenoe 20 Kevin McCarthy Caoimhín Mac Cárthaigh Kilcummin 21 Graham O'Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 22 Conor Geaney Conchúir Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle 23 Tomás Ó Sé Tomás Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht 24 Jason Foley Iasún Ó Foghlú Ballydonoghue 25 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Templenoe 26 Denis Daly Donnchadh Ó Dálaigh St Mary's Caherciveen Captains Name: Paul Murphy Team Officials Role Names (First & Surname) Bainisteoir Peter Keane (St Mary's) Maor Fóirne / Roghnóir (1) Tommy Griffin (Dingle) Roghnóir (2) Donie Buckley (Castleisland Desmonds) Roghnóir (3) James Foley (Kilcummin) Roghnóir (4) Maurice Fitzgerald (St Mary's) Praise the Lord. We are having a look at Mark Midfield. Now we will know soon enough. Lovin this management team.
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Post by pillar on Feb 23, 2019 23:04:10 GMT
We're top now on scoring difference after Mayos defeat to Dublin.To a lot of informed people Mayo are the big threat to Dublin 5 in a row.On tonight's evidence there a mile off. Multiple wides and no punch. In fairness pillar mayo have been well beaten in Croke park in the league over the last 6 years. Those results had no bearing on what happened the following August/September. If any team needs a sighting of green shoots it's Mayo.Failing with an old team is okay but when you're parading your up and coming that performance was woeful when you contrast it to Tralee 2 weeks ago.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Feb 23, 2019 23:17:31 GMT
1 (GK) Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rathmore 2 Peter Crowley Peadar Ó Cruadhlaoich Laune Rangers 3 Jack Sherwood Seán Sherwood Firies 4 Shane Enright Sean Mac Ionrachtaigh Tarbert 5 Gavin Crowley Gabhin Ó Crualaidh Templenoe 6 Paul Murphy Pól Ó Murchú Rathmore 7 Tom O'Sullivan Tomás Ó Súilleabháin Dingle 8 Jack Barry Jeaic de Barra Na Gaeil 9 Mark Griffin Marc Ó Grifín St Michaels/Foilmore 10 Diarmuid O'Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil 11 Sean O'Shea Seán Ó Sé Kenmare 12 Gavin O'Brien Gabhin Ó Briain Kerins O'Rahillys 13 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Killarney 14 Tommy Walsh Tomás Breathnach Kerins O'Rahillys 15 Stephen O'Brien Stiofán Ó Briain Kenmare 16 (GK) Brian Kelly Brian Ó Ceallaigh Killarney Legion 17 Jonathan Lyne Ionatán Ó Leighin Killarney Legion 18 Michael Geaney Micheál Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle 19 Tadhg Morley Tadhg Ó Muraile Templenoe 20 Kevin McCarthy Caoimhín Mac Cárthaigh Kilcummin 21 Graham O'Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 22 Conor Geaney Conchúir Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle 23 Tomás Ó Sé Tomás Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht 24 Jason Foley Iasún Ó Foghlú Ballydonoghue 25 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Templenoe 26 Denis Daly Donnchadh Ó Dálaigh St Mary's Caherciveen Captains Name: Paul Murphy Team Officials Role Names (First & Surname) Bainisteoir Peter Keane (St Mary's) Maor Fóirne / Roghnóir (1) Tommy Griffin (Dingle) Roghnóir (2) Donie Buckley (Castleisland Desmonds) Roghnóir (3) James Foley (Kilcummin) Roghnóir (4) Maurice Fitzgerald (St Mary's) Praise the Lord. We are having a look at Mark Midfield. Now we will know soon enough. Lovin this management team. Griffin will probably be in the half back line to free up Murphy for a man marking role on Walsh. Moynihan will play wing forward with O’Brien in midfield and two men Inside. I could be wrong but I’d be surprised to see Griffin in a traditional midfield role tomorrow.
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Feb 23, 2019 23:36:40 GMT
Praise the Lord. We are having a look at Mark Midfield. Now we will know soon enough. Lovin this management team. Griffin will probably be in the half back line to free up Murphy for a man marking role on Walsh. Moynihan will play wing forward with O’Brien in midfield and two men Inside. I could be wrong but I’d be surprised to see Griffin in a traditional midfield role tomorrow. Anywhere will do for me. He has alot going for him. Speed strength athleticism and now a few years experience in the set up. Hope he does da biz
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Post by thebluepanther on Feb 24, 2019 0:16:57 GMT
We're top now on scoring difference after Mayos defeat to Dublin.To a lot of informed people Mayo are the big threat to Dublin 5 in a row.On tonight's evidence there a mile off. Multiple wides and no punch. You are right, Mayo were desperate. Maybe they are not interested. For all the talk about the league being the better competition, performances like this make a joke of the league. Of course it could be that this Mayo team are over the hill and this is as good as they are. Dublin were not overly impressive either. They won 1 - 16 to 0 - 7. That might be considered a good win but considering that Mayo were so bad Dublin never got into a fluent run and lead by only 1 - 9 to 0 - 6 coming up to 70 minutes - there was 7 minutes added on. A lot can be learned from watching players when they are not playing to a strict game plan. Con O'C can only thinks of a goal when he gets possession which I guess in modern parlance could be described as bad decision making. They did not support each each other very well - no instinctive running - which begs the question what will happen the day that the game plan doesn't work in the championship. Very insightful.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Feb 24, 2019 0:22:57 GMT
Griffin will probably be in the half back line to free up Murphy for a man marking role on Walsh. Moynihan will play wing forward with O’Brien in midfield and two men Inside. I could be wrong but I’d be surprised to see Griffin in a traditional midfield role tomorrow. Anywhere will do for me. He has alot going for him. Speed strength athleticism and now a few years experience in the set up. Hope he does da biz Tbh I don’t know what his best position is. I hope he does well tomorrow, we really could do with someone like him stepping up for a role around the middle.
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Post by taggert on Feb 24, 2019 8:09:30 GMT
Anywhere will do for me. He has alot going for him. Speed strength athleticism and now a few years experience in the set up. Hope he does da biz Tbh I don’t know what his best position is. I hope he does well tomorrow, we really could do with someone like him stepping up for a role around the middle. Or maybe he isnt good enough for a role around the middle - time will tell. Does he have the football "smarts" in possession. Glad he is getting an opportunity as A.Spillane is definitely not the answer.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 24, 2019 9:36:36 GMT
You are right, Mayo were desperate. Maybe they are not interested. For all the talk about the league being the better competition, performances like this make a joke of the league. Of course it could be that this Mayo team are over the hill and this is as good as they are. Dublin were not overly impressive either. They won 1 - 16 to 0 - 7. That might be considered a good win but considering that Mayo were so bad Dublin never got into a fluent run and lead by only 1 - 9 to 0 - 6 coming up to 70 minutes - there was 7 minutes added on. A lot can be learned from watching players when they are not playing to a strict game plan. Con O'C can only thinks of a goal when he gets possession which I guess in modern parlance could be described as bad decision making. They did not support each each other very well - no instinctive running - which begs the question what will happen the day that the game plan doesn't work in the championship. Very insightful. I agree really ridiculous post, Dublin could of won by a criket score if they wanted to
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Post by themanfromthewest on Feb 24, 2019 11:03:22 GMT
Tbh I don’t know what his best position is. I hope he does well tomorrow, we really could do with someone like him stepping up for a role around the middle. Or maybe he isnt good enough for a role around the middle - time will tell. Does he have the football "smarts" in possession. Glad he is getting an opportunity as A.Spillane is definitely not the answer. I wonder if his stamina or decision making are good enough for a role in the middle. Look at the turnover late v Dublin recently for example. Almost cost us the game and there was absolutely no need to rush the kick. Murphy did the same thing two years ago but at least he was gassed at that stage. I don’t like criticising individuals so I will leave it at that. I hope he does well today but I have never been an advocate of playing him midfield there are just too many boxes he doesn’t tick. I think he could be a useful panel member though.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 24, 2019 11:25:41 GMT
He is being tried out and I applaud management for that. They are not nailing him down for the year or anything like that.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Feb 24, 2019 11:28:54 GMT
He is being tried out and I applaud management for that. They are not nailing him down for the year or anything like that. Yes of course and best of luck to him I’d like to see him do well
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Post by dc84 on Feb 24, 2019 13:07:54 GMT
I think its a good selection personally especially against a team like Galway with the way they play.
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Post by stevieq on Feb 24, 2019 13:37:57 GMT
Looks like a very decent Kerry crew here today. Great to see
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 24, 2019 14:47:37 GMT
Galway so defensive - even when O’Brien was black carded they still maintain their defensive shape - Kerry doing well against massed defence - have to face breeze in 2nd half.
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Post by peanuts on Feb 24, 2019 14:48:17 GMT
Looks like a very decent Kerry crew here today. Great to see Great finish to the half by Kerry getting the last 4 points. Nice lead of 5 points. Would be great if they could drive on in the second half.
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Post by Chinatown on Feb 24, 2019 14:53:23 GMT
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Post by homerj on Feb 24, 2019 16:19:18 GMT
great win. realistic chance of a final spot now, 1 win may get it, 2 guarantees it.
hopefully get job done against monaghan and it set us up.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Feb 24, 2019 16:29:40 GMT
Great win again especially now if we can make league final in Croke Park what learning experience that would be for all involved . Tomás o Se the hero ! Got a lot more out of mark griffin very involved Breath of fresh air , Stephen o Brien superb improving all the time On learning side the Diarmuid o Connor experiment while getting good game time for the youngster I’m not seeing the return on investment presently Tommy walsh playing like 2009 but can he not go for a pass pre organized Instead of shot on goal every time ? League final v Dublin would be great as we have more improving and learning to do
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Post by homerj on Feb 24, 2019 17:06:08 GMT
if we are in the final, i hope its not Dublin anyway but they will probably end on 10 points now. if we beat mayo, then that could cause them problems.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 24, 2019 17:39:18 GMT
There should be no black cards for things that happen when the ball is out of play.
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Post by kerryfanatic on Feb 24, 2019 18:00:05 GMT
Congrats Kerry, great start to league, might make final! Well done all involved!
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Post by beantownfan on Feb 24, 2019 18:15:22 GMT
There should be no black cards for things that happen when the ball is out of play. I must have fallen out of touch with the rules - I thought a blackcard was only for pulling down an opposing player (on the ball), third man tackle, tripping a player with the hand, and abusing a ref? Has there been a change? I listened to the game on radio Kerry - it seemed like an odd decision at the time? Has the rule been broadened? A big congrats to the team and management - this start is well beyond expectations. I hope a few more forwards can become as prolific as Sean O'Shea - we are pretty reliant on him at the moment.
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Feb 24, 2019 18:22:35 GMT
There should be no black cards for things that happen when the ball is out of play. I must have fallen out of touch with the rules - I thought a blackcard was only for pulling down an opposing player (on the ball), third man tackle, tripping a player with the hand, and abusing a ref? Has there been a change? I listened to the game on radio Kerry - it seemed like an odd decision at the time? Has the rule been broadened? A big congrats to the team and management - this start is well beyond expectations. I hope a few more forwards can become as prolific as Sean O'Shea - we are pretty reliant on him at the moment. Can Sean's scores be a bit up because he's a free taker? We are going to be reliant on a free taker regardless of who he is.
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Post by oldschool on Feb 24, 2019 18:23:50 GMT
Well done Kerry.Another good win. It was a hard one to win against the type of defensive structure Galway employed Kerry were good at the tackling and did not give too many easy frees I could not believe the wides that should have been over the bar Tommy Walsh was Very good Silly things like Shane Ryan coming out to centre field and then losing the ball. A Galway point came off that.
Overall very satisfied. Go Kerry
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 24, 2019 18:33:07 GMT
There should be no black cards for things that happen when the ball is out of play. I must have fallen out of touch with the rules - I thought a blackcard was only for pulling down an opposing player (on the ball), third man tackle, tripping a player with the hand, and abusing a ref? Has there been a change? I listened to the game on radio Kerry - it seemed like an odd decision at the time? Has the rule been broadened? unless they changed the rule, it seems to me that O'Briens should have been a yellow for rough play.
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 24, 2019 18:40:19 GMT
Superb character to dig out the win when we were reeled in; goal was a basis defensive mistake, otherwise we looked solid at the back; kick out was poor in the 2nd half, never mixed it up. Midfield, Mark Griffin especially, workmanlike - need more from Jack Barry.
Tommy was excellent all day, fouled a lot with no frees being given.
Big plus was the tackling from the likes of Dara Moynihan/Seán O’Shea - massive work rate.
Delighted to see Tomás O’Sé getting his chance and boy, did he take it! His point on the run and against the wind was immense - then set up Tom O'Sullivan for the final point. O'Sullivan too worked his socks off.
Hugely encouraging, a league final berth now within sight - lots of hard work and graft to be done but these guys seemed to have fully bought in to management's philosophy and signs are that things can only get better!
Ciarraí Abú
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Feb 24, 2019 18:46:15 GMT
Disappointed with Shane Ryan to be honest. Directly contributed to 1-1. Was lucky to get away with punching a ball against dubs as well. It wasn't even the punch just the recklessness of where it went.
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