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Post by ataboy on Sept 17, 2018 18:01:39 GMT
Can someone explain how the Crokes and Ghaeltacht game was played in Killarney?
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Post by keane on Sept 17, 2018 19:09:56 GMT
One of the most unsightly looking aspect of the game in my opinion is where a player in possession is swallowed up by 3 defenders, who use a Gaelic football form of the choke tackle, to turnover possession On top of it being unsightly, I would nearly contend that a player has never been dispossessed in this manner without being fouled by one or other of the tacklers in the history of gaelic football.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 17, 2018 19:13:09 GMT
Thanks for digging out the rule and helping make my point - that rule requires the forward to stand still to allow a defender comply. A moving forward cannot be tackled for fear of coughing up a free. Yes defenders overstep - ask any big number 14 who cannot buy a free close to goals 99% of the time. On balance the rules favour forwards in the current game (big 14's the exception) and they are no angels in taking advantage of this. We will probably have to agree to differ on this one. No it does not. All too often when you hear a player "drew a foul" what has happened is that the defender became over eager/stuck in a hand/ was lazy with their tackling/flapping their arms around/wasn't making any clear effort to focus their attempted tackle on the ball. Basically if you're not making a clean clear attempt which is focused on the ball as opposed to the player, you're taking a risk that the ref will interpret your attempt to win the ball as a foul. Refs do their best but interpretations will vary from ref to ref and every ref will make mistakes. There is a lot of talk about the general state of Gaelic football and possible rule changes - I would like to see some trials of what a game of football would look like if the rule on the tackle was changes so that the tackle was limited to either one defender at a time or limited to two players at a time. One of the most unsightly looking aspect of the game in my opinion is where a player in possession is swallowed up by 3 defenders, who use a Gaelic football form of the choke tackle, to turnover possession. the rule you quote there is nearly like ladies football.... non contact apart from should to shoulder.
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Post by diego on Sept 17, 2018 19:43:30 GMT
you didn't watch the ladies final yesterday so Mick? Plenty of physical stuff in it!
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 17, 2018 19:56:43 GMT
you didn't watch the ladies final yesterday so Mick? Plenty of physical stuff in it! i saw the second half... and the difference between them was dublin defending in packs. Cork couldnt get through it. The point i am making is that the rule on tackling in mens game is similar to the ladies...but the reality of how both codes are played is very different
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Post by givehimaball on Sept 17, 2018 21:02:42 GMT
you didn't watch the ladies final yesterday so Mick? Plenty of physical stuff in it! i saw the second half... and the difference between them was dublin defending in packs. Cork couldnt get through it. The point i am making is that the rule on tackling in mens game is similar to the ladies...but the reality of how both codes are played is very different This is the rule on the tackle for Ladies football. Opinions will differ but I think there is a lot of difference in the wording of the two rules. The fact is the men's rule allows physical contact when tackling but The way I see it is that refs will allow a fair degree of physical contact in the men's game when the tackler's focus is on the ball. This is a big difference from a situation where One of the most unsightly looking aspect of the game in my opinion is where a player in possession is swallowed up by 3 defenders, who use a Gaelic football form of the choke tackle, to turnover possession On top of it being unsightly, I would nearly contend that a player has never been dispossessed in this manner without being fouled by one or other of the tacklers in the history of gaelic football. For a ref this is a nightmare to make a call on, as if you have three players surrounding a player with the ball, there will inevitably be a blind side that the ref will only have limited visibility on. I really can't see any downsides to altering the rule relating to the tackle to only letting two defenders at a time engage.
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Post by sambo on Sept 17, 2018 21:07:19 GMT
Any word on fixtures for quarters?
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Post by ruralgaa on Sept 18, 2018 9:34:15 GMT
Are there any match reports for County Championship games online for us exiles? The Examiner used to be excellent for this but they no longer include a summary report let alone a match report online. I await the cheapskate comments!
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Post by john4 on Sept 18, 2018 12:08:47 GMT
#GarveysSFC Qtr Finals - Extra Time
Sat Sept 29 in ASP
Austin Stacks v Dingle @ 6pm
K O Rahillys v St Brendans @ 7.45pm
Sun Sept 30 in Fitzgerald Stadium
Legion v Dr Crokes @ 2pm
East Kerry v Sth Ky @ 3.45pm
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Post by blackisbad on Sept 18, 2018 14:16:30 GMT
Can someone explain how the Crokes and Ghaeltacht game was played in Killarney? Because the crokes always get every possible advantage available from venues to refereeing decisions.
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Post by dc84 on Sept 18, 2018 15:21:35 GMT
Can someone explain how the Crokes and Ghaeltacht game was played in Killarney? Because the crokes always get every possible advantage available from venues to refereeing decisions. Is your full name black and amber is bad?
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 18, 2018 16:53:05 GMT
#GarveysSFC Qtr Finals - Extra Time Sat Sept 29 in ASP Austin Stacks v Dingle @ 6pm K O Rahillys v St Brendans @ 7.45pm Sun Sept 30 in Fitzgerald Stadium Legion v Dr Crokes @ 2pm East Kerry v Sth Ky @ 3.45pm Great bit of scheduling there. Far more attractive games that a lot of intercounty ones.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 18, 2018 19:25:23 GMT
Big chance for East Kerry to progress to the semi final stage. It would be a novel final four if Brendans win the Tralee derby game!
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Post by southward on Sept 18, 2018 19:51:12 GMT
Can someone explain how the Crokes and Ghaeltacht game was played in Killarney? Because the crokes always get every possible advantage available from venues to refereeing decisions.Dubs in disguise?
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Post by boots on Sept 18, 2018 20:19:29 GMT
four decent looking games. Crokes with To y Brosnan back should get over what legion have to offer, but I reckon it will be closer than people think. I don’t think Crokes are quite as good as they have been in recent years and others have caught up with them.
East v South Kerry should be close. I’d expect SK to play very defensively like they did against Crokes in last years county final and really test the young EK forwards.
Dingle have been the most disappointing team in the championship for me with the players they have at their disposal, and I see Austin Stacks winning this one.
In the last game, im surprised by the amount of people who are expecting a st Brendan’s victory. I can’t see it to be honest. KOR are having a great year, already qualified for a division one county league final, and have just beaten the reigning county champions in their own back yard. Tommy Walsh fit and healthy makes a big difference to them. they’ll surely take huge confidence from that Crokes win and have too much for st Brendan’s.
They will be feisty, but you’d still think Crokes, East Kerry, Stacks, and Kerins o Rahillys will make up the last 4.
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Post by abhaindhu on Sept 19, 2018 19:17:36 GMT
Can someone explain how the Crokes and Ghaeltacht game was played in Killarney? Because the crokes always get every possible advantage available from venues to refereeing decisions. They definitely seem to get a lot home games or in Fitzgerald Stadium. It is mad when you think of it. On a positive note, great to see Tony Brosnan firing so well.
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Post by kingdomkerry on Sept 20, 2018 21:19:07 GMT
Because An Gaeltacht agreed to the venue?
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Post by Jigz84 on Sept 25, 2018 11:27:38 GMT
The 2 games in Killarney Sunday are live on TG4.
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Post by buck02 on Sept 25, 2018 12:11:43 GMT
The 2 games in Killarney Sunday are live on TG4. This thread will get considerably busier so.
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Post by dc84 on Sept 25, 2018 17:52:22 GMT
The 2 games in Killarney Sunday are live on TG4. Brilliant news for those of us unlucky enough to be living outside the county ! The gra i have for that channel!
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 25, 2018 18:51:25 GMT
The 2 games in Killarney Sunday are live on TG4. Brilliant news for those of us unlucky enough to be living outside the county ! The gra i have for that channel! Michael D set it up God bless him. I will be giving him my number 1 vote.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 25, 2018 19:34:50 GMT
It would be great with the TV Licence if you could choose for your 160 pounds to go to TG4 instead of propping up 2Fing-M
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 19:40:22 GMT
It would be great with the TV Licence if you could choose for your 160 pounds to go to TG4 instead of propping up 2Fing-M If people could choose where the licence fee went, tg4 would barely last the week without additional support
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 26, 2018 5:40:00 GMT
It would be great with the TV Licence if you could choose for your 160 pounds to go to TG4 instead of propping up 2Fing-M If people could choose where the licence fee went, tg4 would barely last the week without additional support At the moment my understanding is that TG4 gets about 2% of the licence fee revenue.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 26, 2018 9:08:37 GMT
If people could choose where the licence fee went, tg4 would barely last the week without additional support At the moment my understanding is that TG4 gets about 2% of the licence fee revenue. . about right i would say. 4m from 180m approx goes to Tg4 per annum
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Post by givehimaball on Sept 26, 2018 16:27:09 GMT
At the moment my understanding is that TG4 gets about 2% of the licence fee revenue. . about right i would say. 4m from 180m approx goes to Tg4 per annum TG4 costs the tax payer around €40 million annually. The main chunk of their funding is a direct transfer from the Dept of the Gaeltacht. Just because they are only getting a small amount of the TV license doesn't mean they aren't getting a serious chunk of tax payers money. The director general of TG4 who left in 2016 was on over a quarter a million a year salary. The powers that be finally copped this was nonsense and the new director general's salary was reduced to €161k a year. Given the average cost per employee for the 84 staff was €67,300 in 2017 (for a total of €5,653,000) I'd imagine that there are a fair few folk on fairly cushy numbers in there.
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Post by piggott on Sept 26, 2018 17:01:05 GMT
Are the Saturday evening games being broadcast, I recall Eir Sport covering County Championship matches last year.
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Post by dc84 on Sept 26, 2018 17:41:43 GMT
. about right i would say. 4m from 180m approx goes to Tg4 per annum TG4 costs the tax payer around €40 million annually. The main chunk of their funding is a direct transfer from the Dept of the Gaeltacht. Just because they are only getting a small amount of the TV license doesn't mean they aren't getting a serious chunk of tax payers money. The director general of TG4 who left in 2016 was on over a quarter a million a year salary. The powers that be finally copped this was nonsense and the new director general's salary was reduced to €161k a year. Given the average cost per employee for the 84 staff was €67,300 in 2017 (for a total of €5,653,000) I'd imagine that there are a fair few folk on fairly cushy numbers in there. A drop in the rte ocean tbf at least tg4 is watchable and listenable in a gaa context i cant listen to most of the rte gaa people
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Post by givehimaball on Sept 26, 2018 19:49:30 GMT
TG4 costs the tax payer around €40 million annually. The main chunk of their funding is a direct transfer from the Dept of the Gaeltacht. Just because they are only getting a small amount of the TV license doesn't mean they aren't getting a serious chunk of tax payers money. The director general of TG4 who left in 2016 was on over a quarter a million a year salary. The powers that be finally copped this was nonsense and the new director general's salary was reduced to €161k a year. Given the average cost per employee for the 84 staff was €67,300 in 2017 (for a total of €5,653,000) I'd imagine that there are a fair few folk on fairly cushy numbers in there. A drop in the rte ocean tbf at least tg4 is watchable and listenable in a gaa context i cant listen to most of the rte gaa people Just because RTE does a poor job, doesn't mean TG4 should get a free pass. RTE gets something like 5 times what TG4 gets from the taxpayer ; however it does have 2 channels plus 4 radio stations and plus other bits and pieces (Orchestras, RTE Guide)
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 26, 2018 21:00:36 GMT
TG4 does a lot of great things apart from sport. Documentaries and music and history.
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