Jigz84
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Post by Jigz84 on Jul 31, 2018 15:36:38 GMT
RTE website is talking about the possibility of a playoff between Kerry and Monaghan. As they stand ................P W D L Pts Galway Monaghan .2 1 1 0 3 Kerry........2 0 1 1 1 Kildare If Galway beat Monaghan and Kerry beat Kildare and, in their respective games, Monaghan score 1 goal more than Kerry, and Kerry can improve their score difference by 5 points to match Monaghan’s, then the table would read ..................P...W...D....L...Pts....Head to head....Score diff......Goals for Galway Monaghan....3...1....1.....1...3 ......draw-no diff.......same..........same Kerry..........3...1....1.....1...3...... draw-no diff ......same..........same Kildare There are a lot of moving parts that would have to align for this to happen but if it does the semi final with Dublin would have to be postponed. Nightmare scenario for Croker. It will be interesting to see what refs are appointed and how they behave at the two venues. We have Derek O'Mahoney of Tipp while Conor Lane of Cork will be in Galway.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 31, 2018 15:55:03 GMT
Fairly negative forum this past few days, i understand it and i certainly was critical of the team and Management after the Monaghan and Galway games but surely we can park it for the next few days while we are still have a crack at it.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 31, 2018 16:00:53 GMT
Nightmare scenario for Croker. It will be interesting to see what refs are appointed and how they behave at the two venues. We have Derek O'Mahoney of Tipp while Conor Lane of Cork will be in Galway.Put your life savings on Monaghan. Or a draw.
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Post by skybluezone on Jul 31, 2018 16:04:52 GMT
The only reason rte are looked into the possibility of Kerry and Monaghan ending up in this situation is because their beloved Dublin may be caught up in it. If Donegal or Tyrone at the other end would be affected by this type of occurance it wouldn't even enter their minds to foresee the possibility of it Their beloved Dublin have been booted off mainstream tv channels to RTE News Now or something like that. Which seems fair enough considering the options.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 31, 2018 16:05:31 GMT
We have Derek O'Mahoney of Tipp while Conor Lane of Cork will be in Galway.Put your life savings on Monaghan. Or a draw. Hhmmmm, looks like a lane well travelled alright..........!
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 31, 2018 16:06:20 GMT
The only reason rte are looked into the possibility of Kerry and Monaghan ending up in this situation is because their beloved Dublin may be caught up in it. If Donegal or Tyrone at the other end would be affected by this type of occurance it wouldn't even enter their minds to foresee the possibility of it Their beloved Dublin have been booted off mainstream tv channels to RTE News Now or something like that. Which seems fair enough considering the options. Gavin probably demanded the lower profile.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 31, 2018 16:20:06 GMT
Put your life savings on Monaghan. Or a draw. Hhmmmm, looks like a lane well travelled alright..........! Well if you read the Monaghan prospective they are not happy at all with the appointment and believe McManus will get zero protection from him.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 31, 2018 16:29:04 GMT
No real interest here in side shows or delusion just realism. Fully expect Monaghan to get the job done with a high degree of probability going for them.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 31, 2018 16:37:32 GMT
No real interest here in side shows or delusion just realism. Fully expect Monaghan to get the job done with a high degree of probability going for them. Kerrygold why are you convinced that Monaghan will do the business?
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 31, 2018 16:43:57 GMT
The only reason rte are looked into the possibility of Kerry and Monaghan ending up in this situation is because their beloved Dublin may be caught up in it. If Donegal or Tyrone at the other end would be affected by this type of occurance it wouldn't even enter their minds to foresee the possibility of it Their beloved Dublin have been booted off mainstream tv channels to RTE News Now or something like that. Which seems fair enough considering the options. why are RTE bothering with this game. Daniel and Majella bringing a bit of joy to a bed and breakfast owner is far more interesting.
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Post by seaniebo on Jul 31, 2018 16:45:35 GMT
No real interest here in side shows or delusion just realism. Fully expect Monaghan to get the job done with a high degree of probability going for them. Surely the proposition of playing either a Tyrone or Donegal, who will surely have strips torn off one another, is a more appealing option than facing a Dublin side who'll enjoy a stroll out? I think that will have a huge factor on the Galway frame of mind. For our own frame of mind we need to concentrate on our own job which may not be a walk in the park. We've a great chance to get some confidence back with a good solid performance. It's amazing how shallow our confidence is in that it appeared shattered in one fell swoop at the hands of Galway.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 31, 2018 16:48:25 GMT
No real interest here in side shows or delusion just realism. Fully expect Monaghan to get the job done with a high degree of probability going for them. Surely the proposition of playing either a Tyrone or Donegal, who will surely have strips torn off one another, is a more appealing option than facing a Dublin side who'll enjoy a stroll out? I think that will have a huge factor on the Galway frame of mind. For our own frame of mind we need to concentrate on our own job which may not be a walk in the park. We've a great chance to get some confidence back with a good solid performance. It's amazing how shallow our confidence is in that it appeared shattered in one fell swoop at the hands of Galway. mis placed confidence perhaps? based on playing football v hurling counties!
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 31, 2018 16:50:28 GMT
No real interest here in side shows or delusion just realism. Fully expect Monaghan to get the job done with a high degree of probability going for them. Kerrygold why are you convinced that Monaghan will do the business? How good are Galway?
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Post by taggert on Jul 31, 2018 16:51:34 GMT
No real interest here in side shows or delusion just realism. Fully expect Monaghan to get the job done with a high degree of probability going for them. Surely the proposition of playing either a Tyrone or Donegal, who will surely have strips torn off one another, is a more appealing option than facing a Dublin side who'll enjoy a stroll out? I think that will have a huge factor on the Galway frame of mind. For our own frame of mind we need to concentrate on our own job which may not be a walk in the park. We've a great chance to get some confidence back with a good solid performance. It's amazing how shallow our confidence is in that it appeared shattered in one fell swoop at the hands of Galway. If Galway dont do the business I think they will reap what they sow a week later against Dublin.... I just hope its not a "settled for" draw as that will leave a sour taste in a lot of mouths...
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 31, 2018 17:00:15 GMT
Kerrygold why are you convinced that Monaghan will do the business? How good are Galway? Galways football manager might take stock of the plight of the Galway hurling manager....McInerney gone for sunday with Joe Canning and Daithi Burke fighting to get fully fit. In other words he might play a weakened team and not risk key players...and take his chances v Dublin at semi final stage.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 31, 2018 17:10:53 GMT
Kerrygold why are you convinced that Monaghan will do the business? How good are Galway? They have only lost once all year. They have approached every game in tbe same manner. They took on Dublin in Salthill whej they had already qualified for the final. Momentum is very important in sport i think they will do us a favour on Saturday.
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Post by seaniebo on Jul 31, 2018 17:16:13 GMT
Surely the proposition of playing either a Tyrone or Donegal, who will surely have strips torn off one another, is a more appealing option than facing a Dublin side who'll enjoy a stroll out? I think that will have a huge factor on the Galway frame of mind. For our own frame of mind we need to concentrate on our own job which may not be a walk in the park. We've a great chance to get some confidence back with a good solid performance. It's amazing how shallow our confidence is in that it appeared shattered in one fell swoop at the hands of Galway. mis placed confidence perhaps? based on playing football v hurling counties! The confidence certainly was misplaced from supporters to the media. It's hard to fathom though how, for example, a top quality player like Paul Geaney seems to be devoid of all confidence after shooting the lights out in the Munster final. Not just Paul obviously but a whole host of the team seem toothless all of a shot. There's a feel of 2017 about it. Lacklustre to the extreme at the business end after an exceptional start. The super 8s at least have given us room for redemption. That said how blessed are we that Kildare ousted Mayo. I wouldn't have fancied a cut off the Green and Red this weekend on current form.
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Post by pillar on Jul 31, 2018 18:05:16 GMT
Galways football manager might take stock of the plight of the Galway hurling manager....McInerney gone for sunday with Joe Canning and Daithi Burke fighting to get fully fit. In other words he might play a weakened team and not risk key players...and take his chances v Dublin at semi final stage. He's invested a lot of time in instilling a mentality in them that's hard to beat. Easing off on that might make it hard to recapture.Plus think any team would prefer to avoid Dublin in a final,ourselves excepted🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 18:40:24 GMT
My team Kelly/Murphy - nothing between them really, two average keepers shanahan Morley - if not fit Killian to play Foley - if not fit griffin to come in Tom o Sullivan Peter Crowley - keeps his place mainly as rest of backs are pretty inexperienced White Moran Maher Murphy O shea O brien Jod Geaney Clifford
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Post by john4 on Jul 31, 2018 18:42:15 GMT
Galways football manager might take stock of the plight of the Galway hurling manager....McInerney gone for sunday with Joe Canning and Daithi Burke fighting to get fully fit. In other words he might play a weakened team and not risk key players...and take his chances v Dublin at semi final stage. He's invested a lot of time in instilling a mentality in them that's hard to beat. Easing off on that might make it hard to recapture.Plus think any team would prefer to avoid Dublin in a final,ourselves excepted🤣 I thought for a while back that Walsh might do something like that but thinking about it more, the Galway football public and the Galway local media would go bananas if they threw this game to save bodies from injury only to be beat by Dublin the next day, that would not go down well at home.
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Post by Deise Exile on Jul 31, 2018 19:13:08 GMT
They have only lost once all year. They have approached every game in tbe same manner. They took on Dublin in Salthill whej they had already qualified for the final. Momentum is very important in sport i think they will do us a favour on Saturday. I think Galway will set out to win but they are very ordinary. We weren't that much worse than them. I fear Monaghan will beat them as it is do or die for them and this is the best Monaghan team in years.
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Post by seeking38 on Jul 31, 2018 21:32:35 GMT
Hope we can get our act together and get a proper warm up done before the Kildare game. Monaghan were out at 3-15 and our lads strolled out 14 minutes before throw in. I think this poor preparation played a factor in Kerry's dismal start to the game My take on that was that Monaghan got out to get the predominantly home crowd going, then went in and cooled down - so our boys had taken more Sun and which didn't help - now I am not qualified on these things but ....
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Post by seeking38 on Jul 31, 2018 21:36:05 GMT
Well it certainly didn't work. Another tactical plan that went pear shaped to say the least. Maybe they were watching the end of the Kildare/Galway game
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Post by mandad on Jul 31, 2018 21:47:19 GMT
I believe that the entire panel is injury free and available for selection. I understand and share the frustration of our supporters - our last two outings in particular. But with the possibility of a game against Dublin next weekend I would like to see the selection return to something close to what went to battle against Cork.
In particular, I would want to see Micheál Burns and James reinstated to the forwards from the start and tweak it if and when necessary. If we are fortunate enough to qualify for the semi-final we will need those guys playing well.
I strongly believe that there is a big kick left in this Kerry team yet. Time to get behind them one more time and maybe some of those experts might regret a lot of what they think of us.
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Post by gamechanger10 on Jul 31, 2018 21:56:37 GMT
Walsh will know that his team need to reach the Final, a final is like no other game and just to get there will offer a glimpse of greatness should they win and a huge experience should they loose. How many teams drew from the experience of a defeat in a final to get them over the line on a subsequent big day. Walsh is no fool and he will be targeting the win on Saturday night as he wont want to risk a walk to the gallows seven days later. A loss in a semi final is a stumbling block whereas a los in a final is a building block. We need to be fully focused on Kildare and let the Gods decide after that. Anything to be said for another Mass Ted,
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 31, 2018 22:05:42 GMT
I believe that the entire panel is injury free and available for selection. I understand and share the frustration of our supporters - our last two outings in particular. But with the possibility of a game against Dublin next weekend I would like to see the selection return to something close to what went to battle against Cork. In particular, I would want to see Micheál Burns and James reinstated to the forwards from the start and tweak it if and when necessary. If we are fortunate enough to qualify for the semi-final we will need those guys playing well. I strongly believe that there is a big kick left in this Kerry team yet. Time to get behind them one more time and maybe some of those experts might regret a lot of what they think of us. Fully agree re Micheal Burns, I don't know why he was dropped after the Munster final, he was superb for Kerry all year. James also needs game time and to find form. Kerry were genuinely good in the Munster championship and I have no comprehension why they turned up like that a few weeks later v Galway following on from similar form v Mayo in the replay last year. They'll beat Kildare, more so a Kildare without Daniel Flynn. There is a line of thought coming out of Newbridge that losing Flynn was seriously detrimental towards Kildare getting a result. I'd be weary of Galway tanking as Monaghan have to go and dig a well before going to it. I'd consider that game to be in the realms of 50/50.
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Post by augustafield on Jul 31, 2018 22:10:02 GMT
Don’t know why you keep selecting teams lads - you don’t believe that EF and his crew are taking notice ? We are approaching Saturday on a wing and a prayer . But we should win in spite of our Management’s weird team selections , substitutions and total absence of any coherent strategy . And should we meet the Dubs , who will play football , though their enforcers , McMahon , Cooper , MDAC , O Sullivan and Kilkenny are well adept at using the ‘ dark arts ‘ when necessary , they at least wont use the thuggery employed by Monsghan and to a lesser extent by Galway . Do we have a problem that some of our players are a bit ‘ windy ‘ ? Appealing to the Referee or linesmen is a waste of time and it appears that the advice to ‘ get your retaliation in first ‘ is paramount . Great credit to our youngsters who got no protection in Clones and hopefully Galway can put manners on Monsghan on Saturday and if we can best Kildare then we will have the dubious honour of playing the Champions . Hopefully that will be for another day.
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Post by thebluepanther on Jul 31, 2018 22:24:45 GMT
Yeah I agree, tickets and diesel are part and parcel of supporting your team. The killer is accommodation and in particular in Dublin as far as we are concerned, we have three kids we save for the semi final and final as we like to make a family event of it. Problem is with these late games it becomes difficult to drive to and from in the one day, I stayed in Dublin last Saturday night and headed straight to Kerry after the Monaghan game but with the required pit stop I didn’t darken my front door until the last few minutes of the day. I had a day off on Monday apart from that there is no way I could have consideeed a game that threw in at 4pm at the other end of the country. It’s unfortunate that the organization is so willing to inconvenience supporters to facilitate viewing rights. I'd agree and some of the decision making of throw in times beggars belief. Donegal also got caught this year against us on a Saturday evening . Not that I was complaining because I loved the atmosphere as did my kids but it was 12.30am when we got home from the Tyrone game last week. Although Dubs don't have the expense of diesel generally in championship compared to most counties. In league games this year, my family would have stayed overnight for the Mayo game , made the day trip for Galway and Tyrone league game. Would have went to Croker for all other games. We also attend as much of the Ladies games as we can. But to be honest I'd rather spend my money on that than any other hobby or passion.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 1, 2018 0:01:16 GMT
My take on that was that Monaghan got out to get the predominantly home crowd going, then went in and cooled down - so our boys had taken more Sun and which didn't help - now I am not qualified on these things but .... AND a keyboard is harder to control that a ball, an thats b4 de heat man!!
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