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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 8, 2017 10:09:15 GMT
I dont think anyone is saying that there is an issue- well I'm not anyway.
I'm more pointing out the hypocrisy of criticising Cooper's event without addressing the issue of endorsements
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Post by lár na páirce on Nov 8, 2017 10:11:32 GMT
In fairness using Bernard Brogan is a terrible example,Himself and Alan are extremely shrewd business men and have their hands in alot of different companies in different sectors,Their portfolio includes a few hotels they bought during the lean years.
While im sure he welcomes the gigs from SuperValu etc.. It is far from his bread & butter income
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 8, 2017 10:22:46 GMT
I dont think anyone is saying that there is an issue- well I'm not anyway. I'm more pointing out the hypocrisy of criticising Cooper's event without addressing the issue of endorsements Fair enough point taken.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 8, 2017 10:25:19 GMT
In fairness using Bernard Brogan is a terrible example,Himself and Alan are extremely shrewd business men and have their hands in alot of different companies in different sectors,Their portfolio includes a few hotels they bought during the lean years. While im sure he welcomes the gigs from SuperValu etc.. It is far from his bread & butter income The Brogan dynasty is built on the 70's legacy and fair play to them for all they have achieved as a family on and off the field. I wouldn't criticise the Brogans in any way.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 8, 2017 10:39:24 GMT
In fairness using Bernard Brogan is a terrible example,Himself and Alan are extremely shrewd business men and have their hands in alot of different companies in different sectors,Their portfolio includes a few hotels they bought during the lean years. While im sure he welcomes the gigs from SuperValu etc.. It is far from his bread & butter income Well its not really as the Brogan's have received financial backing for their portfolio on the back of their GAA success
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 8, 2017 11:02:47 GMT
Joe Canning mentioned in the media recently that he works three days per week in the family hurley making business. With where the game is gone at the top now It is not possible to work full time and play at the highest level over a sustained period of time. The clever players will exploit the opportunities that participating in the game presents to them.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Nov 8, 2017 11:25:37 GMT
Peter Twiss quoted in today’s kerryman that the Co. Board were not told not to accept money from the Cooper dinner. Spillane, as noted, talking out of his rectum as usual.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 8, 2017 11:50:11 GMT
Pat should probably concentrate on solving rural Ireland at this stage.
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Post by thebluepanther on Nov 8, 2017 22:59:01 GMT
I'm not sure what you are looking for from me here- Brogan is the most obvious one as he more or less has done nothing but endorsements for several years and has now set up his own advertising agency to handle his affairs. We have players ourselves who have gone down this route where the only wage that they have made for a period of time has been off their GAA endorsements/related events. I dont have a full list & loads are tied up in mickey mouse jobs like being a director of a recruitment company (Paul Flynn) without having any experience in that role or having any real function. The amount of lads working as Business Development reps or managers is extremely high and most of those are nonsense roles where they show up and shake hands every once in a blue moon. Ye some of what you say is very true, I suppose we can argue most intercounty players going back to the 70s and before have moved quicker up ladders and had doors opened because of their GAA profiles. No different to now . Its easy to assume certain guys do nothing but endorsements. But Bernard Brogan is qualified accountant , who with his cousin James a qualfied Solicitor founded legacy consultancy , they are gaining momentum that no doubt is helped by Bernard's profile. But still they took a punt on this venture ,Bernard could easily have took a cushy number doing accountancy. But he didn't want that , he saw an opportunity and went for it, it wasn't handed to him. This could make him very wealthy who knows. Paul Galvin didn't want to stay as a teacher and with his Gaa profile used it to his advantage, this helped him further his clothing range which he was passionate about and good luck to him , clearly a talented guy. This again could make him a wealthy man who knows. I don't agree that the Gooch actions can be classed in the same bracket. I
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 9, 2017 9:03:14 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 9, 2017 9:11:22 GMT
None of these methods of making money from the game are identical. The only common denominator is that the bank balance increases and in Colms case, it's tax free and some went to charity.
All other arguments are "jesuitical" yet some people get very exercised by the distinctions that can be drawn between the various methods of increasing the bank balance.
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Post by Joxer on Nov 9, 2017 10:00:17 GMT
But MickMack, being Jesuitical is our default setting as natives of this fair island. It's also a national sport....are you attempting to cast aspersions on a national institution?
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 9, 2017 19:53:22 GMT
Peter Twiss quoted in today’s kerryman that the Co. Board were not told not to accept money from the Cooper dinner. Spillane, as noted, talking out of his rectum as usual. Tim Murphy also confirms this is not the case in this weeks Kerrys Eye and that he had not heard from the Gooch re the donation as of yet.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 9, 2017 21:24:27 GMT
Ballyfireside, please stop making references to money laundering. That's two posts by you that I have deleted in the past 24 hours. Can I ask you to stick to procedure and notify me, I cannot now see or recall the messages though I am sure one was quoted from elsewhere, maybe I omitted the inverted commas. If it is the word 'laundering' that upsets then maybe you are interpreting it out of context - in fact I have actually read offensive comments on this subject without using that word and where a very honourable man was wrongly accused. Can I also suggest you take a look at my recent posts, and even going back - I think my contribution is very credible and non-member visitors have commended me, not least because I understand the economic context of things GAA. I wouldn't be provocative for the sake of it.
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Post by Control5 on Nov 9, 2017 22:56:07 GMT
You made references to money laundering in two posts and one poster said that what you said was a disgrace. If you have evidence of money laundering, which is illegal, you should contact the police.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 10, 2017 10:08:58 GMT
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Post by glengael on Nov 16, 2017 12:08:21 GMT
At this stage, it reminds me a bit of the controversy over the Westlife wedding a few years back.....
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Post by jackiel on Nov 16, 2017 14:30:01 GMT
At this stage, it reminds me a bit of the controversy over the Westlife wedding a few years back..... I honestly don't remember the Westlife wedding scandal glengael but I am well and truly over this whole saga.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 16, 2017 17:25:07 GMT
Spillane's recent uninformed outburst has probably drawn a line under this story.
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Post by glengael on Nov 16, 2017 18:37:45 GMT
At this stage, it reminds me a bit of the controversy over the Westlife wedding a few years back..... I honestly don't remember the Westlife wedding scandal glengael but I am well and truly over this whole saga. One of the band members and his wife asked for donations to charity in lieu of wedding gifts. There was controversy afterwards as to what the charity actually received. I don't know why but it popped back into my head when I read about this later instalment of the saga.
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