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Post by glengael on Oct 29, 2017 11:08:14 GMT
Any reports from this event? Few photos flying around here and there. A fair few non GAA sportspeople there. Don't know what Bernard Brogan was thinking of with that scarf... ruined a perfectly good look. I hope Paul G gave him some advice on accessorising properly.....
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 29, 2017 15:29:44 GMT
Any reports from this event? Few photos flying around here and there. A fair few non GAA sportspeople there. Don't know what Bernard Brogan was thinking of with that scarf... ruined a perfectly good look. I hope Paul G gave him some advice on accessorising properly..... It looked rare alright. Not even a cold evening!
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 29, 2017 18:25:32 GMT
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Post by pillar on Oct 30, 2017 11:03:46 GMT
Any truth in the rumour that the o se's were planning their own event before the gooch upstaged them?i have not seen much comment from them in relation to this. see An Ghaeltacht are organising a tribute night to the 3 O Ses in the INEC on December 8th in aid of their pitch development ..that could be a good night..advertised in the match programme yesterday.
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Post by glengael on Oct 30, 2017 11:28:45 GMT
Interesting piece in the Sunday Times Ireland yesterday on the evolution of commercial endorsements etc for GAA players. I don't know if there's a link available to it as that paper has a paywall but if you get a chance to see the print version, it's worth a read.
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 31, 2017 9:51:57 GMT
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Post by mafi97 on Oct 31, 2017 19:51:33 GMT
It was an absolutely brilliant night.
I had my misgivings before the event, fearing the bad wedding syndrome with interminable repetitive speeches.
Everything was so streamlined and moved with such a tempo that the night flew.
While all the contributions were spot on, once again Colm played a blinder and just hit the sweet spot. 10/10.
One of the pleasures of the night was that, at my table, we had two "personalities" who I heard only a few weeks ago fulminating about the event and majoring on the "principle of the thing". Groucho Marx was right!.
One of the unintended consequences of the night was that it afforded a whole new image of the GAA to the goodly sized percentage of non-GAA people present on the night.
Overall, I would regard it as a great night for the GAA.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 1, 2017 8:38:20 GMT
Are there any links to clips available of Colm's speech anywhere?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 2, 2017 21:05:30 GMT
Any truth in the rumour that the o se's were planning their own event before the gooch upstaged them?i have not seen much comment from them in relation to this. And well deserved it would be and you'd be sure 'twould go off as well as Colms! Can't believe how anyone could have an issue with such a noble occasion. Just as well we challenged the high-ups, Donaghy's regret is that he didn't sneak the wee lad in under his coat - now what do you think of that Joe Brolly?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 2, 2017 21:06:15 GMT
It was an absolutely brilliant night. I had my misgivings before the event, fearing the bad wedding syndrome with interminable repetitive speeches. Everything was so streamlined and moved with such a tempo that the night flew. While all the contributions were spot on, once again Colm played a blinder and just hit the sweet spot. 10/10. One of the pleasures of the night was that, at my table, we had two "personalities" who I heard only a few weeks ago fulminating about the event and majoring on the "principle of the thing". Groucho Marx was right!. One of the unintended consequences of the night was that it afforded a whole new image of the GAA to the goodly sized percentage of non-GAA people present on the night. Overall, I would regard it as a great night for the GAA. Tell us more!
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Post by skybluezone on Nov 4, 2017 20:16:17 GMT
Any truth in the rumour that the o se's were planning their own event before the gooch upstaged them?i have not seen much comment from them in relation to this. And well deserved it would be and you'd be sure 'twould go off as well as Colms! Can't believe how anyone could have an issue with such a noble occasion. Just as well we challenged the high-ups, Donaghy's regret is that he didn't sneak the wee lad in under his coat - now what do you think of that Joe Brolly?So how much has gone to charity and how much did Cooper trouser?
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 5, 2017 11:11:51 GMT
The charities appears to have been very happy with the arrangement from what i have heard but no details have emerged.
What Colm got is Colms business.
Put it another way, do you know how much Bernard Brogan gets from endorsing Supervalu and Volkswagen and how much of that does he give to Charity?
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Post by Jigz84 on Nov 6, 2017 15:36:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 16:13:29 GMT
Colm won't be thanking Spillane for raising this again
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Post by Fado on Nov 6, 2017 18:28:02 GMT
Break out the brown envelopes!
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 6, 2017 19:43:18 GMT
The charities appears to have been very happy with the arrangement from what i have heard but no details have emerged. What Colm got is Colms business. Put it another way, do you know how much Bernard Brogan gets from endorsing Supervalu and Volkswagen and how much of that does he give to Charity? I know, the hypocrisy is crazy- Bernard's full time job is essentially doing endorsements and noone seems to bat an eyelid! I never understood why the dinner caused so much hassle when the endorsement culture has been growing for the last 10 years!
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 6, 2017 22:49:39 GMT
The charities appears to have been very happy with the arrangement from what i have heard but no details have emerged. What Colm got is Colms business. Put it another way, do you know how much Bernard Brogan gets from endorsing Supervalu and Volkswagen and how much of that does he give to Charity? I know, the hypocrisy is crazy- Bernard's full time job is essentially doing endorsements and noone seems to bat an eyelid! I never understood why the dinner caused so much hassle when the endorsement culture has been growing for the last 10 years! BB is basically a full time professional so?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 7, 2017 8:37:55 GMT
I know, the hypocrisy is crazy- Bernard's full time job is essentially doing endorsements and noone seems to bat an eyelid! I never understood why the dinner caused so much hassle when the endorsement culture has been growing for the last 10 years! BB is basically a full time professional so? Yeah, but he's not the only one!
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 7, 2017 10:10:08 GMT
BB is basically a full time professional so? Yeah, but he's not the only one! So, how many of the Dubs are concentrating on football full time?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 7, 2017 10:18:49 GMT
Yeah, but he's not the only one! So, how many of the Dubs are concentrating on football full time? Hang on there a second and I'll check their tax returns & employment contracts
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Post by inforthebreaks on Nov 7, 2017 11:46:41 GMT
How is it that the crokes are not allowed benefit from coopers dinner but an Gaeltacht can from the O’Sé Dinner?? Nonsense
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Post by Control5 on Nov 7, 2017 16:13:14 GMT
Ballyfireside, please stop making references to money laundering. That's two posts by you that I have deleted in the past 24 hours.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 20:43:04 GMT
How is it that the crokes are not allowed benefit from coopers dinner but an Gaeltacht can from the O’Sé Dinner?? Nonsense Not sure I believe Spillane here
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 7, 2017 20:50:25 GMT
No one has had their snout in the trough more than Spillane over the past thirty years. Is he lacking in self awareness or just a complete hypocrite? Perhaps both.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 7, 2017 22:21:10 GMT
Spillane has been with RTE since 1992 according to Wiki.
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Post by thebluepanther on Nov 7, 2017 22:49:53 GMT
BB is basically a full time professional so? Yeah, but he's not the only one! Very insightful.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 8, 2017 7:44:58 GMT
Yeah, but he's not the only one! Very insightful. I'm not sure what you are looking for from me here- Brogan is the most obvious one as he more or less has done nothing but endorsements for several years and has now set up his own advertising agency to handle his affairs. We have players ourselves who have gone down this route where the only wage that they have made for a period of time has been off their GAA endorsements/related events. I dont have a full list & loads are tied up in mickey mouse jobs like being a director of a recruitment company (Paul Flynn) without having any experience in that role or having any real function. The amount of lads working as Business Development reps or managers is extremely high and most of those are nonsense roles where they show up and shake hands every once in a blue moon.
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Post by lár na páirce on Nov 8, 2017 9:08:47 GMT
Much like when Declan Sullivan,Star & Paul Galvin were practically full time footballers as much as Brogan,Flynn are,Paul Geaney,Darran Sullivan,Barry John and a few more are in jobs totally geared towards having as much time off as possible for football,If that is a personal guys choice then whats the issue?
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 8, 2017 9:32:23 GMT
Much like when Declan Sullivan,Star & Paul Galvin were practically full time footballers as much as Brogan,Flynn are,Paul Geaney,Darran Sullivan,Barry John and a few more are in jobs totally geared towards having as much time off as possible for football,If that is a personal guys choice then whats the issue? Most of the Kerry players mentioned above are in the self employed category working in the family business. BB possibly falls into the same bracket.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 8, 2017 9:50:25 GMT
I'm not sure what you are looking for from me here- Brogan is the most obvious one as he more or less has done nothing but endorsements for several years and has now set up his own advertising agency to handle his affairs. We have players ourselves who have gone down this route where the only wage that they have made for a period of time has been off their GAA endorsements/related events. I dont have a full list & loads are tied up in mickey mouse jobs like being a director of a recruitment company (Paul Flynn) without having any experience in that role or having any real function. The amount of lads working as Business Development reps or managers is extremely high and most of those are nonsense roles where they show up and shake hands every once in a blue moon. I don't see the issue with this. If players set up their own legal company structure be it in media, PR or whatever else to concentrate full time on playing there is nothing the GAA can do about it. Colm's event is beginning to look more like an entertainment event to me than anything else. I doubt Croke Park can sanction players on business activities off the field of play. Judging by what we have seen in the last two finals (three including replay) the game at the top table where players can concentrate fully on the game is an exiting product. Creating the environment for elite players to fully concentrate on the game in an amateur setting has a lot of merit. It gives lads a chance to prepare for a working career post game also. For the top players in the top counties it makes a lot more sense than the Australian route. The challenge for counties like Kerry is to create the model where their top players can thrive in the modern game. As punters we want to see multiple collisions of the top teams in Croke every July & August going forward. The Super Eights is a step in this direction. The game has evolved dramatically on the pitch, top counties will have to evolve dramatically off the pitch also to keep up to speed in a changing world. Personally I find the prospect exciting as a punter who likes to attend high end GAA games in Croke Park.
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