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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 19:59:09 GMT
Decimated by players going to the US I'd imagine. Stacks should have a decent bit more strength in depth as they have been very strong at underage level for the last few years Other than the 21s that won the championship in 2015- Strand Road are at feckall at underage level as they are in a part of town with very little new development and I can see this struggle starting to manifest itself in the next year or so Stacks are very strong at all Levels underage. U-12, U-14, U-16 and Minor. Laune Rangers have been decent the last couple of years also. Kilcummin and Rathmore are fairly strong. Legion and Crokes would be average. Na Gaeil are good. O'Rahilly's are gone back a lot. Wouldn't be strong at any level.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 1, 2017 6:16:51 GMT
I said about 8/10 years ago that Crokes were the coming team in the county due to good underage players they had coming through- I'd put Stacks in that position now
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 1, 2017 10:05:57 GMT
Stacks and Crokes are the two club sides that consistently produce division 1 grade underage teams every year. Other clubs have good spells and bad spells which in isolation mean little as roughly two full cycles of underage would make up a senior team - bigger problem for all clubs is retention and conversion of underage to senior and this is slighlty easier for town sides. Great underage sides dont always provide senior talent but an underage production line definitely helps and on this basis expect Crokes and Stacks to be very strong senior sides in the next number of years. Laune Rangers have good potential in this regard with division 1 underage teams in most grades (conversion and retention will be key for them).
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Post by kerryfanatic619 on Jun 1, 2017 10:09:32 GMT
Rathmore also producing some excellent underage teams and their conversion has been very good in recent years
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 0:25:18 GMT
I agree with Kerrybhoy and onlykerry. Both true statements. Stacks are consistently producing good underage teams. They probably have the biggest pick in Kerry. That helps. Crokes have produced good teams since about 2004. I see a little dip right now at U14 and U12 but they are still young. Rathmore seem to always produce 3 or 4 good players every year. Laune Rangers will have a very good u16 team this year along with Stacks. It's great to see the smaller clubs like Tuosist Kilgarvan Cromane and others representing Kerry at all levels.
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 3, 2017 21:13:16 GMT
SENIOR FOOTBALL LEAGUE DIV 1 KERINS O`RAHILLY'S 0 - 16 V 1 - 8 AUSTIN STACKS TEMPLENOE 3 - 15 V 2 - 7 MILLTOWN/CASTLEMAINE JOHN MITCHEL'S/NA MISTÉALLAIGH 0 - 8 V 1 - 11 DR CROKES
Good wins for Templenoe and Rahillys tonight, Crokes stay top.
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Post by fivenarow on Jun 5, 2017 13:01:52 GMT
A friend of mine was at the Crokes game. He said they had 7 first team starters & that the goal looked a square ball but they were still in control. He thought Mitchels set up too negatively with too many players behind the ball at times & might have been better off going for it when the Crokes were down so many players. It's scary when they can play without half the first team starters & still win easily.
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 26, 2017 14:00:12 GMT
With half way point in Div 1 just gone - 6 rounds played and 5 to go, no surprise to see Crokes leading the way with a perfect record. A chasing pack of 4 looking for the second league final slot.
What were the odds on Stacks being in the relegation zone at the start of the campaign, in fact Mitchels being the best placed Tralee side would also have attracted great odds. A lot to play for in the remaining fixtures.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 18:21:52 GMT
Crokes flying. Pat giving a lot of fringe players games and they are doing well. David Shaw Mike Casey Chris Brady Paul Clarke Jason Lyne David Naughton and a few more gaining good experience. Stacks have been a disappointment. An Ghaeltacht, Glenbeigh/Glencar, and Mitchels doing well. Desmonds look doomed. Stacks, Marys and O'Rahilly's need to start winning.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 14:50:37 GMT
Crokes beat Templenoe 0-12 points to 0-7. Wet conditions made the ball slippery but it was a good game considering the conditions. Crokes looked good in the first half. Kicked some good scores from Kieran O'Leary, Colm Cooper and Paul Clarke. Daithi Casey kicked a couple of frees. They went in leading 0-8 to 0-3 at half time. Templenoe came more into it in the second half. Brian Crowley Teddy Doyle and Stephen O'Sullivan came more into the game and gave Crokes enough of it. They were always going to need a goal and it never came. Daithi Casey Shane Doolan and Buddy O'Leary finished the game off with 3 points in the last 10 minutes. Crokes stay unbeaten. Templenoe creep closer towards the bottom of the table.
Crokes Team :
1 Johnny O'Leary
2 John Payne 3 Mike Moloney 4 Brian Fitzgerald
5 David Naughton 6 Jason Lyne 7 David O'Leary
8 Alan O'Sullivan 9 Paul Clarke
10 Shane Doolan 11 Gavin O'Shea 12 Brian Looney
13 Colm Cooper 14 Daithi Casey 15 Kieran O'Leary.
Subs: PJ Lawlor Cillian Fitzgerald
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 17, 2017 8:27:29 GMT
With Three rounds left to play Division 1 is getting interesting - for the second final spot and probably the second drop spot at least.
Crokes are looking safe for the final with Rathmore and Gaeltacht edging ahead of Dingle and Glenbeigh/Glencar. Both Rathmore and Gaeltacht have three winnable games left but both Dingle and Glenbeigh/Glencar have yet to play Crokes so expect the second finalist to come from Rathmore or Gaeltacht.
At the other end, Desmonds are looking doomed with either Stacks or Miltown Castlemaine as their most likely companion based on remaining fixtures. Stacks still have to face both Rathmore and Gaeltacht who are in contention to contest the final and their third remaining game is against Glenbeigh/Glencar. Milltown/Castlemaine have played 9 games and are two points ahead of Stacks with Crokes and Mitchels left to play.
St Marys and Templenoe are both in the drop zone but would fancy taking points from Desmonds who they both still have to play in the run in. KOR on 7 are probably safe but not mathematically safe as yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 18:24:12 GMT
Very poor form by Stacks. No excuses not performing. Surprised by An Ghaeltacht. Thought they would struggle. Fair play to them.
Expected Rathmore to be up there. Good panel of players. Glenbeigh/Glencar going well and Mitchels. Thought Mary's and Templenoe would do better. Dingle safe. Mitchels probably another win or draw will do them. O'Rahilly's probably another win.
9 points is usually good enough to keep you in the Division. Marys have a huge game against Desmonds next. Stacks will have to beat Glenbeigh/Glencar. It could all come down to the last week of games. O'Rahilly's v Templenoe. Mitchels v Milltown/Castlemaine. Rathmore v Stacks. Marys v An Ghaeltacht.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 22, 2017 22:36:36 GMT
Desmond's loss to St Marys on Friday evening confirms their relegation from Division 1. Who joins them is still very much in play as is the second final position (assuming Crokes don't have a total collapse in their final three games).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 14:18:10 GMT
Crokes v Dingle tonight in Lewis Road at 7:30. Should be a good game.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 21:02:17 GMT
Shane Murphy played I believe. Does this mean he is not on the panel for Sunday?
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 27, 2017 21:24:23 GMT
Goal keeping issue is a bit of a shambles. I don't see how he could be on the panel for Sunday!
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 28, 2017 8:57:51 GMT
Looking like a straight battle between Gaeltacht and Rathmore for the second final place - Gaeltacht look to have the smoother run in and Rathmore have three games to negotiate starting with Templenoe tonight. Their game against Glenbeigh/Glencar in R10 will be crucial. If they are level on points how are they separated? Same question for teams at the bottom - if level is it scoring diff or a playoff?
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 28, 2017 9:01:16 GMT
Looking like a straight battle between Gaeltacht and Rathmore for the second final place - Gaeltacht look to have the smoother run in and Rathmore have three games to negotiate starting with Templenoe tonight. Their game against Glenbeigh/Glencar in R10 will be crucial. If they are level on points how are they separated? Same question for teams at the bottom - if level is it scoring diff or a playoff? Scoring average/difference does not apply - play offs required for relegation/promotion. Hard to believe that we do not rely on scoring average/differences given the glut of games & fixture problems.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 28, 2017 9:04:27 GMT
Looking like a straight battle between Gaeltacht and Rathmore for the second final place - Gaeltacht look to have the smoother run in and Rathmore have three games to negotiate starting with Templenoe tonight. Their game against Glenbeigh/Glencar in R10 will be crucial. If they are level on points how are they separated? Same question for teams at the bottom - if level is it scoring diff or a playoff? Scoring average/difference does not apply - play offs required for relegation/promotion. Hard to believe that we do not rely on scoring average/differences given the glut of games & fixture problems. Or if just a two way battle the head to head fixture that has already taken place - I can see the arguement against scoring difference.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 28, 2017 9:06:36 GMT
On the scoring difference - surprising to see Stacks scoring difference given their position in the table. The four teams above them all have far worse scoring difference.
Mary's in seventh (nearly mid-table) have the second poorest scoring difference.
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Post by fivenarow on Jul 28, 2017 9:18:42 GMT
Scoring average/difference does not apply - play offs required for relegation/promotion. Hard to believe that we do not rely on scoring average/differences given the glut of games & fixture problems. Or if just a two way battle the head to head fixture that has already taken place - I can see the arguement against scoring difference. Deciding it by the head to head might be a bit unfair to the team that was away from home or maybe missing county players for the match. I think a playoff at at neutral venue is a fair enough system. It seems that castleisland are the only team that can't survive the drop - round 10 will be interesting.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 28, 2017 11:03:41 GMT
Milltown & Stacks look the likeliest to go down - Milltown have Crokes to play so would expect most they can hope for is 8 points; Stacks can also only get 8 - An Ghaeltacht & Rathmore look stiff opposition. On the other hand, clubs may see some of their US brigade returning in time for Rd 10, so current form could go out the window.
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Post by yellowbelly on Jul 28, 2017 11:38:12 GMT
As far as I know, if two teams finish level in the County League then it comes down to head to head between the two. If three or more teams level on points then it a play off/offs.
Crokes dispatched Dingle pretty routinely last night after a sluggish start. Shane Murphy gave an exhibition of kickouts but guessing by the fact he played at all it is Shane Ryan who will be on the bench on Sunday
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Post by ballhopper34 on Jul 28, 2017 14:16:43 GMT
As far as I know, if two teams finish level in the County League then it comes down to head to head between the two. If three or more teams level on points then it a play off/offs. Not according to the 2017 Eolaire... "Where teams finish level on points having played same number of fixtures, a play-off will determine final placings regarding promotion, relegation or qualification for Div 1 Final."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 14:21:20 GMT
Was at the Crokes match. Good win. Dingle started well but once Crokes got going it looked like only one winner. Both teams missing players. Chris Brady Kieran O'Leary Colm Cooper Daithi Casey good for Crokes.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 28, 2017 20:14:18 GMT
Bit of s surprise Templenoe beating Rathmore tonight in Rathbeg, 0-20 to 4-5, Templenoe safe now with 2 games to play.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 29, 2017 10:30:27 GMT
Bit of s surprise Templenoe beating Rathmore tonight in Rathbeg, 0-20 to 4-5, Templenoe safe now with 2 games to play. Big result - puts Gaeltach in the driving seat for the second final spot.
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Post by tpo on Jul 29, 2017 20:25:37 GMT
Why is Michael Burns not starting for Crokes?
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Post by kerryfanatic619 on Jul 31, 2017 8:41:46 GMT
Bit of s surprise Templenoe beating Rathmore tonight in Rathbeg, 0-20 to 4-5, Templenoe safe now with 2 games to play. Rathmore were missing Five of the six forwards that played their last championship game as well as 4 others who started that game so no surprise when you take this into account! Definitely now ends their chances of a final appearance one would feel.
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Post by lár na páirce on Aug 11, 2017 15:57:13 GMT
Penultimate round of county league this weekend and we have yet to see ANY senior county player take part in any round.
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