Money

[kerrybhoy06]

What keeps on being ignored when people talk about funding and bring kids/population into it is that with such a large population - you have much greater scope to pull in membership fees, fundraising opportunities and sponsorship monies.

The clubs in Dublin dont need hand outs from the GAA-most are wealthy enough to fund their own professional coaches.
Cuala's last sponsor was Huawei for godsake while their next one Amgen is giving college scholarships and work placements to their players.

This poor mouth, wont someone think of the children nonsense just doesnt stack up

[Deleted]

The focus should be on the advantages Dublin have at intercounty level. Having access to the best nutrition, s&c, various training facilities, analysis, not having travel expenses and being able to go on weekends away several times a year are all things that could easily be provided to all if the will was there. Putting a few more games officers in various counties won’t make any difference.

The advantage that Dublin have is really at the elite level and once they leave minor.

[kerrybhoy06]

Sept 19, 2019 18:34:03 GMT @kingdomexile said:

The focus should be on the advantages Dublin have at intercounty level. Having access to the best nutrition, s&c, various training facilities, analysis, not having travel expenses and being able to go on weekends away several times a year are all things that could easily be provided to all if the will was there. Putting a few more games officers in various counties won’t make any difference.

The advantage that Dublin have is really at the elite level and once they leave minor.

All meals delivered to their home/place of work- plus the famous dining card that they can hold up in a lot of restaurants around Dublin

[abù]

Sept 19, 2019 18:37:28 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

Sept 19, 2019 18:34:03 GMT @kingdomexile said:

The focus should be on the advantages Dublin have at intercounty level. Having access to the best nutrition, s&c, various training facilities, analysis, not having travel expenses and being able to go on weekends away several times a year are all things that could easily be provided to all if the will was there. Putting a few more games officers in various counties won’t make any difference.

The advantage that Dublin have is really at the elite level and once they leave minor.

All meals delivered to their home/place of work- plus the famous dining card that they can hold up in a lot of restaurants around Dublin

A dining card. Are you serious? What’s that costing alone in a year. While money is the topic. If one was to attend 80% of games in the year, What is the comparison in cost for the Kerry/mayo supporter vs the dub supporter?

[baurtregaum]

Sept 19, 2019 19:38:25 GMT abù said:

Sept 19, 2019 18:37:28 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

All meals delivered to their home/place of work- plus the famous dining card that they can hold up in a lot of restaurants around Dublin

A dining card. Are you serious? What’s that costing alone in a year. While money is the topic. If one was to attend 80% of games in the year, What is the comparison in cost for the Kerry/mayo supporter vs the dub supporter?

Is this true about the meals or dining card? I thought it was a myth. Philly McMahon is a partner in a meal delivery business and this was confused with the Dubs panel getting meals delivered. At least that was the explanation I heard or read somewhere.

Can someone confirm this to be true? I am open to correction.

In relation to fan travelling costs, that very much depends on the fan in question but your Kerry fan is shelling out for a train ticket or a full tank of petrol per trip, more of a food bill and possible accommodation costs also.

[kerrybhoy06]

Sept 19, 2019 20:50:11 GMT baurtregaum said:

Sept 19, 2019 19:38:25 GMT abù said:

A dining card. Are you serious? What’s that costing alone in a year. While money is the topic. If one was to attend 80% of games in the year, What is the comparison in cost for the Kerry/mayo supporter vs the dub supporter?

Is this true about the meals or dining card? I thought it was a myth. Philly McMahon is a partner in a meal delivery business and this was confused with the Dubs panel getting meals delivered. At least that was the explanation I heard or read somewhere.

Can someone confirm this to be true? I am open to correction.

In relation to fan travelling costs, that very much depends on the fan in question but your Kerry fan is shelling out for a train ticket or a full tank of petrol per trip, more of a food bill and possible accommodation costs also.

The meals thing is 100% true

[Mickmack]

I understand that they get vouchers for the Gourmet Food Parlour or one of those Gourmet food places.

[Mickmack]

Sept 19, 2019 18:34:03 GMT @kingdomexile said:

The focus should be on the advantages Dublin have at intercounty level. Having access to the best nutrition, s&c, various training facilities, analysis, not having travel expenses and being able to go on weekends away several times a year are all things that could easily be provided to all if the will was there. Putting a few more games officers in various counties won’t make any difference.

The advantage that Dublin have is really at the elite level and once they leave minor.

I think you hit the nail on the head there.

[sullyschoice]

There is a place near me where I get my coffee that does healthy food. A number of the Dubs eat there regularly. They pay each time so I presume they get refunded by co board. They are all fairly local lads. Nice perk to have. Good luck to them.

[ruralgaa]

Sept 19, 2019 21:15:44 GMT Mickmack said:

I understand that they get vouchers for the Gourmet Food Parlour or one of those Gourmet food places.

That would make sense as Gourmet Food Parlour do the catering for them after training, etc.
I find it hard to believe that they have a diners club card that they can use around the city in other restaurants.

Not 100% on the food being delivered to them either. After training you can collect your meal and you are free to take anything extra home with you in plastic containers.

[Annascaultilidie]

Maybe I am not following the point of the last few comments... but is there a suggestion that Kerry players could be taken better care of in the culinary department?

[southward]

While there are legitimate grievances about some of the advantages Dublin have over everyone else, talking about what food they eat just makes us seem petty and ridiculous tbh. I doubt Sean O'Shea has to forage through rubbish bins for a bite.

[kerrybhoy06]

Sept 20, 2019 8:14:47 GMT ruralgaa said:

Sept 19, 2019 21:15:44 GMT Mickmack said:

I understand that they get vouchers for the Gourmet Food Parlour or one of those Gourmet food places.

That would make sense as Gourmet Food Parlour do the catering for them after training, etc.
I find it hard to believe that they have a diners club card that they can use around the city in other restaurants.

Not 100% on the food being delivered to them either. After training you can collect your meal and you are free to take anything extra home with you in plastic containers.

The delivered meals part is 100 % correct

[taibhse]

Kerry lads have their food delivered to them at their training base, be that Currans or Killarney. They have a menu of choices prepared by an outside Caterer and devised by the Nutritionist. They are all on proper diet and are not disadvantaged in that area.

[themanfromthewest]

Lads, are we really complaining about Dublin players getting a few perks? Come on. The Kerry lads get well looked after too. We also have a very good Sponsor in Kerry Group. I doubt our senior team want for anything to be honest.

We fell behind over the years in terms preparation, S & C, sports science etc, and also crucially haven’t had the playing talent to compete with them in the recent past quite frankly. This is changing I believe, and it’s only a matter of time before we topple them.

The biggest edge they have is Croke Park and the familiarity and comfort playing there so often brings. It was an intimidating atmosphere there last weekend, crowd was 60/40 Dublin at least.

[kerrybhoy06]

I haven’t seen anyone complain about it or call it a disgrace- people are merely commenting on it

[onlykerry]

The use/abuse of Croke Park as a home venue is the most glaring issue for me and I am convinced it has been a factor in their glorious run of 5 titles.
Nobody can tell me that the mass of Dublin fans on Hill 16 is something that would occur naturally in a neutral venue - that every time a team warms up before a game they will always warm up at the same end of the ground in a neutral venue. I have heard the BS about the alphabetic allocation of dressing rooms and believe it to be nothing but a story of convenience. Croke Park is not a neutral venue - a simple fact. Little can be done about some of the realities about the location of Croke Park but it should attempt to be neutral on game day and Dublin must play more games out of the venue including QF's and SF's.

The funding issue is twofold - Dublin by virtue of their success and population will attract corporate funding beyond that of other counties. However the GAA allocating and supporting Dublin GAA disproportionatley is not acceptable and should be stopped immediately - every county should get a fair crack of the whip from GAA funds and if anything weaker counties should get more.

[Mickmack]

IrishExaminerOpen

By Michael Moynihan
Staff writer

Follow @mikemoynihanex
Saturday, September 21, 2019 - 06:00 AM
Timing is everything.

Earlier this week RTÉ’s Prime Time focused on the GAA’s funding of Dublin, with the tinsel still airborne around Croke Park after Jim Gavin’s side collected a historic fifth title in a row last Saturday.

Learn more
Feathers were ruffled, with a few Dublin people questioning whether it was appropriate to rain on the sky-blue parade so soon after the final whistle. Parking the obvious retort (when is the appropriate time?), the programme did underline the most pressing question in the GAA at present.

What to do about Dublin’s immense advantages?

Dispelling some myths might help. First, the GAA at all levels needs the serenity to accept the things it cannot change, and as the Dublin County Board and its representatives have pointed out many times, the demographic shift east in recent decades has not been driven by the GAA. The concentration of population, resources, finance and employment opportunities in and around Dublin has nothing to do with the Dublin County Board.

A programme of decentralising those opportunities and resources across the country is a far bigger task — one for government, not Croke Park — than appointing a few more GDAs in smaller counties.

Second: Dublin have endured lengthy All-Ireland famines at senior level despite those natural advantages: hence the view often promoted by Dublin supporters, that their current dominance is a passing phase driven by an extraordinary group who have squeezed out some narrow All-Ireland wins, a couple coming in replays.


This argument can be both true and untrue, however. The presence of once-in-a-generation quality on the field and the sideline has come in parallel with the advent of the back door championship and more professional preparation of teams generally.

This means the better-resourced teams come to the fore. This is true in professional team sports, where well-resourced clubs dominate in every league format because the element of the shock championship exit is removed.

In the old dispensation of knock-out Championship a minnow might catch a superpower once in every ten games, but nowadays, with the Super 8 format and variants thereof, the big battalions are harder to dislodge, which Dublin have proven time and again.

Three: There’s a natural inclination to focus on the Dublin senior team, which is completely understandable. They’re the lads filling Croke Park.

But any suggestion that there is no dividend at senior level from the investment at underage level is undone by common sense. And also by some astute observations which surfaced during the week.

“Between the two canals in Dublin there is a serious population, maybe 300,000-400,000 people, and there’s probably one GAA club there. Soccer and rugby are the dominant sports in Dublin 1, Dublin 2, and most of Dublin 4 and 6.

“We haven’t conquered this in terms of participation. And it’s not trying to beat the other sports, but it’s about participation and to give people the chance to play the games. Whether we like it or not, a third of the population lives in Dublin so you’d say a third of the funding should go into the development of the games.

“That doesn’t mean that the senior team should be getting one-third of the funding, but if we want participation in the games it makes a lot of sense to put the money that way . . .”


The speaker was Pat Gilroy, who was talking to RTÉ. The former Dublin manager added this coda to summarise his views: “If funding is doing one thing for Dublin, it’s getting a lot more kids playing the game, which means you have a lot more chance of getting players through.

“I couldn’t see an argument that makes sense for cutting that funding because all that means is less children play the games.”

Yet if the area “between the canals”, with one-third of Dublin’s population, has one GAA club, that surely means Dublin’s GAA funding is funnelling into clubs servicing two-thirds of the population - into clubs which are already powerful and among the biggest GAA clubs in the country?

This is not an option open to other county boards, who would probably see standards rise if two-thirds of their clubs got almost all the funding available.

Which brings us to the units which are uniquely placed to act on the capital’s advantages: those other county boards, which tend to avoid the blame being dished out for the creation of the Dublin juggernaut.

Yet the championship structure, now utterly dominated by Dublin, was an innovation agreed by the GAA as a whole, not one introduced through subterfuge by the capital. If counties wish to restore the lottery of straight knock-out to level the playing field, they need only do so at Congress.

This is another element in the current dissatisfaction outside the M50 with Dublin’s funding: the willingness to blame Croke Park for not addressing the anomaly rather than county boards themselves.

Five years ago tentative steps were taken to make some move on the huge funding being received by Dublin. At a meeting in Croke Park, scheduled to discuss a report on funding to counties drawn up by the National Financial Management Committee of the Association, senior GAA officials from all over the country considered a proposal which would have reduced the funding made available by the GAA for coaching in the capital.


This was strongly opposed by the Dublin representatives at the meeting, unsurprisingly, who pointed to the different nature of the challenges facing the GAA in the capital compared to other counties in terms of competition from other sports, playing numbers and so forth.

Here you had the rumbling discontent among other counties with Dublin’s resources showing the need for action, and a course of action outlined which might have dealt with it (even if only in draft form).

What has happened, however? Nothing.

This underlines the interconnected strands of the Dublin conundrum. An altered championship structure favours a county receiving heavy investment from the central governing body of the sport; investment aimed at helping participation, though one third of its population is served by just one club. The other counties are unhappy with the situation but are unwilling to act when offered the chance to do so.

Among the reasons for this reticence may be the unforeseen consequences which could accompany actions intended to curtail Dublin.

The most obvious is the proposal to divide the capital in two. While this has led to numerous jokes about cutting other counties in two, or creating Dublin sides representing the northside or southside of the city, it also raises another question.

If Dublin is too big to compete with counties on a level playing field, how big do opposing counties have to be to compete with Dublin? Should Sligo and Leitrim be combined to face Dublin North? Should Laois come together with Offaly to offer Dublin South a challenge? What would be the criteria for collapsing a couple of counties together?

This brings us back to the start. The Dublin conundrum is an unending source of discussion and debate (and newsprint, and broadcasting minutes).


We haven’t even touched on why Dublin are not dominating hurling the way they dominate football. Or what the power of middle-class Dublin suburban clubs means in social terms. Or whether the graduates of Kerry’s All-Ireland-winning minor sides, or Jim Gavin’s eventual resignation, will level the playing field.

Are any of those elements enough to derail the drive for six titles in a row? As noted, timing is everything.

[kerrybhoy06]

“The money makes no difference, it’s all down to the volunteers.”

“Ok give it back so...”

“Ah...no, I’d rather not”

[Mickmack]

IrishExaminerOpen Menu


By Michael Clifford
Follow @mickcliff
The Mick Clifford Podcast is available here.



Saturday, Sleptember 21, 2019 - 12:00 AM
Dublin dominates all other parts of the State in terms of economics, population — and now Gaelic football too, writes Michael Clifford

When did Dublin cease to be a county? The question arises in light of the capital’s dominance of Gaelic football.

Since last weekend’s unprecedented achievement by Dublin, there has been much breast-beating about the unfair advantages enjoyed by the county in Gaelic sport. There is a fear that the current dominance is not transient, but a harbinger of a new era in which Dublin will only occasionally be beaten in the All-Ireland championship.

Learn more
The fears resonate around the rural parts of the State where there is a belief that all the focus of governing and the deployment of resources today is on the east coast conurbation. Sport is the froth of life, but very often it presents bigger truths about life and society at any particular time.

Most of the coverage in the aftermath of last Saturday’s All-Ireland final replay has concerned the huge resources deployed in the capital. A lot of that talk is unfair. Yes, Dublin has huge resources, but it also has to cater for a massive playing population. Commensurate resources are ploughed into the grassroots, doing an excellent job in introducing sport to children of all ages and abilities.

Other counties also benefit from disproportionate resources. All-Ireland hurling champions Tipperary had a committed sugar daddy this year in PR guru, Declan Kelly, whose company contributed generously to the county effort. Kerry is fortunate that a local company grew into a global agri-food business and is on hand to provide whatever is required. So Dublin is not alone in attracting GAA funds or big sponsorship.

But what exactly is Dublin in terms of the GAA?

The county structure that has become the prime unit of the national game is a remnant of the British empire’s renowned capacity for efficient administration.


Each county became an administrative unit under the crown. To a large extent, that structure endures today. When the GAA began to make an impact in the late 19th century, it already had a ready-made structure for a national element of the games. And so it was that people came to identify themselves by their county. In GAA terms, this identity was forged into the DNA of all who took an interest in the games, and ultimately even those who didn’t.

The county system has plenty of anomalies. The teenage girl from deepest west Cork has far more in common with her friend across the border in Kenmare than she might with a girl from Mitchelstown in North Cork. As the old saying goes, what is a west Corkman but a Kerryman with shoes. Yet it is the county structure that provides identity.

Cork is a hurling county, but they barely play the game in the west of the county. The same goes for Galway. There are many other examples of where a uniform application to the games does not apply right across a county structure.

And then you have Dublin. In terms of the GAA, Dublin should have had huge advantages through most of the last century. For instance, in 1975, when Dublin football was in its pomp, the population of the county was 835,000 in a State of 3.2m.

But Dublin in those rare old times was only half tuned into the GAA. The games were, to a large extent, confined to certain pockets, principally on the northside of the city. Dublin GAA folk were a tribe within a county. You could go about your life in the city at the time and be under the impression that the GAA was something that happened beyond the metropolis, like farming or country-and-western music.

READ MORE
Lunney was assaulted. Quinn is not the victim
The Dublin teams were always distinguishable from their country cousins. The 1970s Dubs played with a swagger. That was hugely attractive in a nation with a severe deficit of self-confidence.

The success in the ’70s awoke many sections of the city to this weird game that they’d noticed being played by guards and teachers up the from country. But when the success faded, the interest began to wane.


Roll on another 40 years. Today, Dublin’s dominance of the State, economically and socially, is overwhelming. The old administrative units didn’t work, so they were split into four local authorities, each as large as most county councils. The population in 2019 is hitting 1.35m, in a State of 4.7m. A Government economic study, Project Ireland 2040, published in 2017, stated that Dublin now accounts for 49% of economic activity in the State. Since emerging from the last, deep recession, Dublin — and to a large extent the other cities in the State — has have been in the fast lane of a two-track economy.

The GAA in the city has also been motoring. No longer are the games regarded as a novelty. Through excellent work by the county board, the GAA now has widespread appeal, right across social classes.

Another attraction of the GAA in the city has been the ethos, including a community spirit that is at a premium these days. The popularisation of the games in the capital has been nothing less than spectacular.

As a result, the population imbalance that was always present is now reflected in the performance of the county GAA team. In such a milieu, the notion that Dublin should still be considered a “county”, nominally on a par with the other 31, is ridiculous.

Look, for instance, at how Dublin gets on in soccer. Four of the 10 teams in the League of Ireland Premier Division are Dublin-based. If the four were rolled into one, in terms of resources and support base, would any other club be able to realistically challenge its dominance?

London offers another example. The city has a population of 9m out of 55m in England. London has five clubs in a premier league of 20. Proportionately, this reflects the city’s size. Imagine if there was one club for all of London?

Official recognition that Dublin is no longer a county in GAA terms will have to come some day soon. In 2002, a review committee recommended splitting Dublin into two. That didn’t happen, largely because it would attack a primal identity feature of the GAA. The split, which as Brendan Behan noted, was the first item on the agenda of an Irish organisation, will, by contrast, be a long time coming in Dublin GAA. Good luck to whomever has to ultimately deal with the issue.

In the meantime, enjoy the sporting excellence of the current All-Ireland champions.


Their football and athletic prowess on the field is beyond dispute. Off it, they comport themselves with a humility which is a refreshing antidote to the empty posturing that permeates much of professional sport these days.

The ‘drive for five’ is done. They talk now of a ‘fix for six’. By the time they get to the ‘yen for ten’, the rest of the country may be throwing in for a second-tier intercountry competition.

[thebluepanther]

Sept 19, 2019 18:03:23 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

What keeps on being ignored when people talk about funding and bring kids/population into it is that with such a large population - you have much greater scope to pull in membership fees, fundraising opportunities and sponsorship monies.

The clubs in Dublin dont need hand outs from the GAA-most are wealthy enough to fund their own professional coaches.
Cuala's last sponsor was Huawei for godsake while their next one Amgen is giving college scholarships and work placements to their players.

This poor mouth, wont someone think of the children nonsense just doesnt stack up

To paint a picture of your typical Dublin club.  The issue for many is juvenile numbers and  no access to playing areas. 
I had a meeting during the week  with a Northside Dublin Club ( two Dublin players involved)  , every juvenile team in this club has had to share a football pitch with different age groups during training , 2 to 3 teams on one pitch . ( heated debates with mentors about who will take available slots)
I'm coaching groups now , where i can set up drills during training but pitch is not big enough for kids to have a game of football at the end of  training as they only have half a pitch ( all kids rightly want a game of football at the end of training )
We cant afford  land as its too dear, so the club are looking at fundraising to get portable floodlights to use on pitches during winter , but these pitches have no changing facilities , ( this is big concern for the ladies teams)  so we are thinking of a fundraiser for a portocabin also .   One conversation is we might have to sell our clubhouse  to buy land .
Coaches at grass roots in Dublin  every week have an issue with training and available space . 
I cant speak for Cuala , but i can for a lot of Dublin clubs when i say this. 
There is no poor mouth , just a lot of hours put in finding space for these kids so they are not lost to rugby and soccer and other sports.  
 

 

[thebluepanther]

Sept 19, 2019 18:37:28 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

Sept 19, 2019 18:34:03 GMT @kingdomexile said:

All meals delivered to their home/place of work- plus the famous dining card that they can hold up in a lot of restaurants around Dublin

I've noticed a lot of your posts contain  information of  someone who wants everyone to think that they have inside information.  As we would say a spoofer. 

Dublin do not have a card they can show in restaurants. Ive eaten out with  Dublin players and their partners on a few occasions and its a running joke among them about the food being delivered stories .
I can tell you Gourmet food parlour gave them a small voucher each for winning Sam last year to a certain value.  The guys generally frequent this place to get coffee and a wrap and use the voucher card.  Its a nice perk no doubt and pictures of them in there does Gourmet food parlour no harm. 



 

[kerrybhoy06]

Sept 22, 2019 7:24:56 GMT thebluepanther said:

Sept 19, 2019 18:37:28 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

All meals delivered to their home/place of work- plus the famous dining card that they can hold up in a lot of restaurants around Dublin

I've noticed a lot of your posts contain  information of  someone who wants everyone to think that they have inside information.  As we would say a spoofer. 

Dublin do not have a card they can show in restaurants. Ive eaten out with  Dublin players and their partners on a few occasions and its a running joke among them about the food being delivered stories .
I can tell you Gourmet food parlour gave them a small voucher each for winning Sam last year to a certain value.  The guys generally frequent this place to get coffee and a wrap and use the voucher card.  Its a nice perk no doubt and pictures of them in there does Gourmet food parlour no harm. 



 

Not spoofing at all- I know this for a fact

[kerrybhoy06]

Sept 22, 2019 7:07:36 GMT thebluepanther said:

Sept 19, 2019 18:03:23 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

What keeps on being ignored when people talk about funding and bring kids/population into it is that with such a large population - you have much greater scope to pull in membership fees, fundraising opportunities and sponsorship monies.

The clubs in Dublin dont need hand outs from the GAA-most are wealthy enough to fund their own professional coaches.
Cuala's last sponsor was Huawei for godsake while their next one Amgen is giving college scholarships and work placements to their players.

This poor mouth, wont someone think of the children nonsense just doesnt stack up

To paint a picture of your typical Dublin club.  The issue for many is juvenile numbers and  no access to playing areas. 
I had a meeting during the week  with a Northside Dublin Club ( two Dublin players involved)  , every juvenile team in this club has had to share a football pitch with different age groups during training , 2 to 3 teams on one pitch . ( heated debates with mentors about who will take available slots)
I'm coaching groups now , where i can set up drills during training but pitch is not big enough for kids to have a game of football at the end of  training as they only have half a pitch ( all kids rightly want a game of football at the end of training )
We cant afford  land as its too dear, so the club are looking at fundraising to get portable floodlights to use on pitches during winter , but these pitches have no changing facilities , ( this is big concern for the ladies teams)  so we are thinking of a fundraiser for a portocabin also .   One conversation is we might have to sell our clubhouse  to buy land .
Coaches at grass roots in Dublin  every week have an issue with training and available space . 
I cant speak for Cuala , but i can for a lot of Dublin clubs when i say this. 
There is no poor mouth , just a lot of hours put in finding space for these kids so they are not lost to rugby and soccer and other sports.  
 

 

I don’t understand how a county with no travel expenses and with more funding & sponsorship then any other can be neglecting their clubs so badly.

Maybe get rid of some of the inter county back room staff,GDCs, etc and put that additional money into renting or buying facilities.

The back room staff and GDCs don’t matter anyway as it’s all down to the volunteers supposedly.

It's the same disingenuous nonsense on a loop from the Dublin posters - the money doesnt matter and has no impact on performance as money cant kick a point. We cant give it back though and we probably need more as wont someone please think of the children.

How many children could be trained every year by getting rid of Brian Cullen's salary? The lad was poached from leinster rugby, a professional organisation, so he must be on good coin.

[kerrygold]

Good article somewhere yesterday on Cullen and the condition he has the Dublin players in and their ability to keep playing all day long. BC must be cutting edge at what he does. His salary must be considered money very well spent.

[thebluepanther]

Sept 22, 2019 7:39:13 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

Sept 22, 2019 7:24:56 GMT thebluepanther said:

I've noticed a lot of your posts contain  information of  someone who wants everyone to think that they have inside information.  As we would say a spoofer. 

Dublin do not have a card they can show in restaurants. Ive eaten out with  Dublin players and their partners on a few occasions and its a running joke among them about the food being delivered stories .
I can tell you Gourmet food parlour gave them a small voucher each for winning Sam last year to a certain value.  The guys generally frequent this place to get coffee and a wrap and use the voucher card.  Its a nice perk no doubt and pictures of them in there does Gourmet food parlour no harm. 



 

Not spoofing at all- I know this for a fact

So you tell blatant lies also.  

[thebluepanther]

Sept 22, 2019 7:42:21 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

Sept 22, 2019 7:07:36 GMT thebluepanther said:

To paint a picture of your typical Dublin club.  The issue for many is juvenile numbers and  no access to playing areas. 
I had a meeting during the week  with a Northside Dublin Club ( two Dublin players involved)  , every juvenile team in this club has had to share a football pitch with different age groups during training , 2 to 3 teams on one pitch . ( heated debates with mentors about who will take available slots)
I'm coaching groups now , where i can set up drills during training but pitch is not big enough for kids to have a game of football at the end of  training as they only have half a pitch ( all kids rightly want a game of football at the end of training )
We cant afford  land as its too dear, so the club are looking at fundraising to get portable floodlights to use on pitches during winter , but these pitches have no changing facilities , ( this is big concern for the ladies teams)  so we are thinking of a fundraiser for a portocabin also .   One conversation is we might have to sell our clubhouse  to buy land .
Coaches at grass roots in Dublin  every week have an issue with training and available space . 
I cant speak for Cuala , but i can for a lot of Dublin clubs when i say this. 
There is no poor mouth , just a lot of hours put in finding space for these kids so they are not lost to rugby and soccer and other sports.  
 

 

I don’t understand how a county with no travel expenses and with more funding & sponsorship then any other can be neglecting their clubs so badly.

Maybe get rid of some of the inter county back room staff,GDCs, etc and put that additional money into renting or buying facilities.

The back room staff and GDCs don’t matter anyway as it’s all down to the volunteers supposedly.

It's the same disingenuous nonsense on a loop from the Dublin posters - the money doesnt matter and has no impact on performance as money cant kick a point. We cant give it back though and we probably need more as wont someone please think of the children.

How many children could be trained every year by getting rid of Brian Cullen's salary? The lad was poached from leinster rugby, a professional organisation, so he must be on good coin.

Good man , very well articulated .

[kerrybhoy06]

Sept 22, 2019 8:09:23 GMT thebluepanther said:

Sept 22, 2019 7:42:21 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

I don’t understand how a county with no travel expenses and with more funding & sponsorship then any other can be neglecting their clubs so badly.

Maybe get rid of some of the inter county back room staff,GDCs, etc and put that additional money into renting or buying facilities.

The back room staff and GDCs don’t matter anyway as it’s all down to the volunteers supposedly.

It's the same disingenuous nonsense on a loop from the Dublin posters - the money doesnt matter and has no impact on performance as money cant kick a point. We cant give it back though and we probably need more as wont someone please think of the children.

How many children could be trained every year by getting rid of Brian Cullen's salary? The lad was poached from leinster rugby, a professional organisation, so he must be on good coin.

Good man , very well articulated .

Ignore the point as per usual - good lad.
Keep up your poor mouth nonsense about how the poor kids have nowhere to go while your county board gets about 50% of the GAA's coaching budget.

You're either extremely stupid or extremely insincere - the inability to even acknowledge the problem makes me lean towards the former

[Deleted]

Sept 22, 2019 8:09:23 GMT thebluepanther said:

Sept 22, 2019 7:42:21 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

I don’t understand how a county with no travel expenses and with more funding & sponsorship then any other can be neglecting their clubs so badly.

Maybe get rid of some of the inter county back room staff,GDCs, etc and put that additional money into renting or buying facilities.

The back room staff and GDCs don’t matter anyway as it’s all down to the volunteers supposedly.

It's the same disingenuous nonsense on a loop from the Dublin posters - the money doesnt matter and has no impact on performance as money cant kick a point. We cant give it back though and we probably need more as wont someone please think of the children.

How many children could be trained every year by getting rid of Brian Cullen's salary? The lad was poached from leinster rugby, a professional organisation, so he must be on good coin.

Good man , very well articulated .

Now who is the spoofer

Dublin gaa have prioritized the elite with their full time setup. If clubs don’t have resources, there is one place to look.

[thebluepanther]

Sept 22, 2019 8:22:46 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

Sept 22, 2019 8:09:23 GMT thebluepanther said:

Good man , very well articulated .

Ignore the point as per usual - good lad.
Keep up your poor mouth nonsense about how the poor kids have nowhere to go while your county board gets about 50% of the GAA's coaching budget.

You're either extremely stupid or extremely insincere - the inability to even acknowledge the problem makes me lean towards the former

Just find it hard to debate with a spoofer.
You wouldn't happen to have the name of one of those restaurants that accept those dining cards. 
The ones you know for a fact exist. 
Just i'm going out to dinner  next week with a Dublin player and his wife and i'd  hate to think we would pay for our food , when there was a restaurant nearby that would gladly feed us for free. 
Thanks in advance.