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Post by MrRasherstoyou on May 30, 2016 19:13:14 GMT
Once again Cavan set forth with faint but not completely unrealistic hopes of challenging the top Ulster teams and maybe making a mark on the All-I race. No more than many counties who had great glory days long ago you'd have to want to see them make a breakthrough again one day.
I fear a battering for Clare as Kerry will want to get a fair whack of annoyance out of their system
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Post by kerrygold on May 31, 2016 8:43:14 GMT
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Jun 1, 2016 18:57:11 GMT
Kieran McGeeney is out of his depth, he had no game plan yesterday or if he did he failed to get the players to execute it. McGeeney was a brilliant player but he lacks imagination and he struggles to motivate players to play for Armagh, this is extremely worrying because he has always been seen as an inspirational figure and one would imagine that he would have been an idol of many of the players now playing. Two or three Crossmaglen players playing.....that is pathetic. Crossmaglen would have given Cavan a better game themselves. Quite a few Cross players got their chance, and disappointed. McKeown, McKenna, Cunningham, Hughes, S Kernan... even Morgan has been disappointing. Cross have the players and system that suits them, but alot of them don't seem to adapt to county football for whatever reason. We didn't seem to have any plan really. Same last year. I do wonder what they've been doing at training for 9 months. Putting a big galoot on the edge of the square and lumping it in to him, is at least a plan.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jun 2, 2016 11:26:30 GMT
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 2, 2016 11:31:32 GMT
"The Dubs travel in big numbers"
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 2, 2016 12:32:47 GMT
"The Dubs travel in big numbers" Expected salt of the earth, hilarious Dub response- sure isnt Croke Park an away ground and we always fill that. Ha ha and indeed ha
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jun 2, 2016 13:18:05 GMT
Keep it coming lads. Sure Kerry turn up in their droves to watch games against the likes of Waterford.
As Kerrygold knows well, the reasons NP was chosen were:
1. There had to be an option in case Wicklow beat Laois, given that no venue in Wicklow is realistically viable for such a tie (unless people in Leinster want a large amount of money turned down), and Wicklow having to go to Portlaoise to play Dublin would have made no sense either.
2. Season ticket holders for seats have to be almost guaranteed seats for games, NP can accommodate the likely number heading to this game, OMP can't.
On the downside the Cat Laughs is on in Kk this weekend, a huge festival for what is a small city, and this makes it a logistical pain in the ass for everyone. Of course the GAC could introduce a new rule about season ticket seat-holders.
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Post by lár na páirce on Jun 2, 2016 13:41:32 GMT
Keep it coming lads. Sure Kerry turn up in their droves to watch games against the likes of Waterford. As Kerrygold knows well, the reasons NP was chosen were: 1. There had to be an option in case Wicklow beat Laois, given that no venue in Wicklow is realistically viable for such a tie (unless people in Leinster want a large amount of money turned down), and Wicklow having to go to Portlaoise to play Dublin would have made no sense either. 2. Season ticket holders for seats have to be almost guaranteed seats for games, NP can accommodate the likely number heading to this game, OMP can't.On the downside the Cat Laughs is on in Kk this weekend, a huge festival for what is a small city, and this makes it a logistical pain in the ass for everyone. Of course the GAC could introduce a new rule about season ticket seat-holders. Not true,As was the case last year for the Connacht final,Season ticket holders were allocated terrace tickets due to shortage of seats in the main stand. A mistake was made by the Leinster council,Rightly or wrongly that is the case but the attendance (or lack of) on Saturday will ensure that the Dubs will be on the road more regularly in Leinster
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 2, 2016 14:07:45 GMT
Keep it coming lads. Sure Kerry turn up in their droves to watch games against the likes of Waterford. As Kerrygold knows well, the reasons NP was chosen were: 1. There had to be an option in case Wicklow beat Laois, given that no venue in Wicklow is realistically viable for such a tie (unless people in Leinster want a large amount of money turned down), and Wicklow having to go to Portlaoise to play Dublin would have made no sense either. 2. Season ticket holders for seats have to be almost guaranteed seats for games, NP can accommodate the likely number heading to this game, OMP can't. On the downside the Cat Laughs is on in Kk this weekend, a huge festival for what is a small city, and this makes it a logistical pain in the ass for everyone. Of course the GAC could introduce a new rule about season ticket seat-holders. Hey we aren't the ones who said we travel in numbers. Why was there a need to make the fixture before the Laois/Wicklow result? "Season ticket holders for seats have to be almost guaranteed seats for games" "Of course the GAC could introduce a new rule about season ticket seat-holders." Never read those in the www.gaa.ie/mm//Document/GaaIe/Tickets/12/19/01/GAASeasonTicket2016_TermsConditions_English.pdf. The game should be in Portlaois.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jun 2, 2016 14:46:28 GMT
Keep it coming lads. Sure Kerry turn up in their droves to watch games against the likes of Waterford. As Kerrygold knows well, the reasons NP was chosen were: 1. There had to be an option in case Wicklow beat Laois, given that no venue in Wicklow is realistically viable for such a tie (unless people in Leinster want a large amount of money turned down), and Wicklow having to go to Portlaoise to play Dublin would have made no sense either. 2. Season ticket holders for seats have to be almost guaranteed seats for games, NP can accommodate the likely number heading to this game, OMP can't.On the downside the Cat Laughs is on in Kk this weekend, a huge festival for what is a small city, and this makes it a logistical pain in the ass for everyone. Of course the GAC could introduce a new rule about season ticket seat-holders. Not true,As was the case last year for the Connacht final,Season ticket holders were allocated terrace tickets due to shortage of seats in the main stand. A mistake was made by the Leinster council,Rightly or wrongly that is the case but the attendance (or lack of) on Saturday will ensure that the Dubs will be on the road more regularly in Leinster Jesus that's big writing! What was the differential for the Connaught Final? (venue of which I presume is decided well in advance). The differential for NP & OMP is that only 4,500 stand seats are available in OMP, as against 17,500 in NP. That's a big difference and there was a choice. With 4,500 seats alot of kids (and possibly OAPs?) with season seat tickets would either be squashed on the terrace (likely 25,000 crowd in OMP) unable to really see the game or wouldn't go. I'm not saying that has to be the criteria, personally I don't have much a view on it, I'm happy anywhere myself, and terraces suit me better than seats. But obviously thought was put into it for the ticket-holders. As regards what crowd shows up in NP, there are several factors - the festival being on/traffic problems/nowhere to stay over etc would be things that are putting people off. And personally I don't see why Kk as a city & county should be getting the game given that they do nothing for the game of football. Perhaps the point here, beyond lazy cries of "poor little counties don't get fair play", is that we need to look at the influence of season ticket holders on game-organisation. So much emphasis on income can be questioned, I can't remember all the arguments, their priority may simply be having more income to put into games development?
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jun 2, 2016 14:55:27 GMT
Keep it coming lads. Sure Kerry turn up in their droves to watch games against the likes of Waterford. As Kerrygold knows well, the reasons NP was chosen were: 1. There had to be an option in case Wicklow beat Laois, given that no venue in Wicklow is realistically viable for such a tie (unless people in Leinster want a large amount of money turned down), and Wicklow having to go to Portlaoise to play Dublin would have made no sense either. 2. Season ticket holders for seats have to be almost guaranteed seats for games, NP can accommodate the likely number heading to this game, OMP can't. On the downside the Cat Laughs is on in Kk this weekend, a huge festival for what is a small city, and this makes it a logistical pain in the ass for everyone. Of course the GAC could introduce a new rule about season ticket seat-holders. Hey we aren't the ones who said we travel in numbers.The fact is that every other time Dublin footballers played away in Leinster big numbers travelled. Maybe smaller crowds are the norm now, the crowds in Croker for these games have dropped by up to 4 times, if you leave out the "double-header" aspect. Due to various factors. Why was there a need to make the fixture before the Laois/Wicklow result?Who knows. Maybe Laois knew they couldn't get the tie in Portlaoise so it may less of a row to organise something early......? "Season ticket holders for seats have to be almost guaranteed seats for games" "Of course the GAC could introduce a new rule about season ticket seat-holders." Never read those in the www.gaa.ie/mm//Document/GaaIe/Tickets/12/19/01/GAASeasonTicket2016_TermsConditions_English.pdf.Never said they were T&C, or a rule, just that it was clearly a big influence on the decision, and maybe they need to look at their rules or T&Cs in future to see if such influence needs to be changed. Let me ask you one, why do you think it went to Kk, seeing as it doesn't really suit anyone? You're not seriously going to try and suggest that the GAA didn't want Dublin playing an actual away game in Leinster? If you are, then why? No conspiracy theories please! In advance, it makes no difference to the likely outcome of the game, it would only be a factor if there was a likely susrprise. Not that there won't/can't be one but you know what I mean! The game should be in Portlaois.As I've said above, Portlaoise is the big loser here but the issue of stadia, seats, income/gate receipts etc needs looking into.
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Post by lár na páirce on Jun 2, 2016 15:11:02 GMT
Not true,As was the case last year for the Connacht final,Season ticket holders were allocated terrace tickets due to shortage of seats in the main stand. A mistake was made by the Leinster council,Rightly or wrongly that is the case but the attendance (or lack of) on Saturday will ensure that the Dubs will be on the road more regularly in Leinster Jesus that's big writing! What was the differential for the Connaught Final? (venue of which I presume is decided well in advance). The differential for NP & OMP is that only 4,500 stand seats are available in OMP, as against 17,500 in NP. That's a big difference and there was a choice. With 4,500 seats alot of kids (and possibly OAPs?) with season seat tickets would either be squashed on the terrace (likely 25,000 crowd in OMP) unable to really see the game or wouldn't go. The Connacht council had choices for venue for last years final. They could of moved the game to Galway and had 8k stand tickets, McHale Park which is all seater,Even Markevic Park in Sligo has approx the same amount of seats as the Hyde (3,500). I understand why the Leinster council chose Nowlan Park but i think it was a mistake,I can see Dublin playing Leinster QF's in Wexford,Tullamore,Carlow,Portlaoise and Kilkenny in the next few years.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 2, 2016 15:20:57 GMT
Ah get away outta that rashers....when you'are explaining you're losing rashers. A grand auld two hour jaunt down to the marble city, take it a few laughts and then smite Laois. Lovely weather. Lovely city. What more could one wish for and only a small percentage travel after all the talk about the Dubs loving the chance to play outside Dublin.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 2, 2016 16:11:57 GMT
Hey we aren't the ones who said we travel in numbers.The fact is that every other time Dublin footballers played away in Leinster big numbers travelled. Maybe smaller crowds are the norm now, the crowds in Croker for these games have dropped by up to 4 times, if you leave out the "double-header" aspect. Due to various factors. Why was there a need to make the fixture before the Laois/Wicklow result?Who knows. Maybe Laois knew they couldn't get the tie in Portlaoise so it may less of a row to organise something early......? "Season ticket holders for seats have to be almost guaranteed seats for games" "Of course the GAC could introduce a new rule about season ticket seat-holders." Never read those in the www.gaa.ie/mm//Document/GaaIe/Tickets/12/19/01/GAASeasonTicket2016_TermsConditions_English.pdf.Never said they were T&C, or a rule, just that it was clearly a big influence on the decision, and maybe they need to look at their rules or T&Cs in future to see if such influence needs to be changed. Let me ask you one, why do you think it went to Kk, seeing as it doesn't really suit anyone? You're not seriously going to try and suggest that the GAA didn't want Dublin playing an actual away game in Leinster? If you are, then why? No conspiracy theories please! In advance, it makes no difference to the likely outcome of the game, it would only be a factor if there was a likely susrprise. Not that there won't/can't be one but you know what I mean! The game should be in Portlaois.As I've said above, Portlaoise is the big loser here but the issue of stadia, seats, income/gate receipts etc needs looking into. When Dublin played Pearse Park in Longford the attendance was 15,213... the capacity was 18,000. Ergo "The fact is that every other time Dublin footballers played away in Leinster big numbers travelled." is false. I think this is just an old-fashioned GAA cock-up and the match should have been fixed for Portlaoise.
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Post by glengael on Jun 2, 2016 16:24:57 GMT
in other GAA news, Ulster champions Monaghan are out this weekend but in view of Down's poor League, is this one a foregone conclusion?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 2, 2016 17:28:06 GMT
in other GAA news, Ulster champions Monaghan are out this weekend but in view of Down's poor League, is this one a foregone conclusion? Yes
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Jun 2, 2016 18:51:07 GMT
in other GAA news, Ulster champions Monaghan are out this weekend but in view of Down's poor League, is this one a foregone conclusion? Yes That would be an...ahem!...YES!
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 2, 2016 21:11:58 GMT
That would be an...ahem!...YES! I'd nearly buy a house just to throw it on it
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jun 2, 2016 22:49:44 GMT
When Dublin played Pearse Park in Longford the attendance was 15,213... the capacity was 18,000. Ergo "The fact is that every other time Dublin footballers played away in Leinster big numbers travelled." is false. I think this is just an old-fashioned GAA cock-up and the match should have been fixed for Portlaoise. And what other crowds did Longford get around that time?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 3, 2016 6:36:48 GMT
When Dublin played Pearse Park in Longford the attendance was 15,213... the capacity was 18,000. Ergo "The fact is that every other time Dublin footballers played away in Leinster big numbers travelled." is false. I think this is just an old-fashioned GAA cock-up and the match should have been fixed for Portlaoise. And what other crowds did Longford get around that time? Yes but O'Moore has a capacity of 27,000.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 3, 2016 10:24:22 GMT
The main reason the Hill faithful wont be travelling in massive numbers is surely a combination of the fine weather and the Euros. Instead of going to the match, Whacker and Joxer will save some money for the trip to France by heading to the nearest canal bank, drink a few cans of cheap cider, jump into the canal when it gets too hot and find out the result of the Dublin game sometime on Sunday afternoon when they wake up.
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Post by kot on Jun 3, 2016 11:01:58 GMT
Whatever about all this hopping ball with Rashers..... whether Dublin are playing in a cabbage patch in causeway, I think my bet with PP of Dubs to win all Leinster matches by 12 or more at 7/2 is a safe one.
Monaghan will give Down a bit of a licking too and -4 looks too good to pass up. Hurling this weekend is throwing up the more appetising games in terms of competition.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 3, 2016 20:34:52 GMT
Whatever about all this hopping ball with Rashers..... whether Dublin are playing in a cabbage patch in causeway, I think my bet with PP of Dubs to win all Leinster matches by 12 or more at 7/2 is a safe one. Monaghan will give Down a bit of a licking too and -4 looks too good to pass up. Hurling this weekend is throwing up the more appetising games in terms of competition. Rashers would hop a rugby ball never mind a basketball...............................................no fear of him.
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Post by kot on Jun 6, 2016 9:55:21 GMT
Whatever about all this hopping ball with Rashers..... whether Dublin are playing in a cabbage patch in causeway, I think my bet with PP of Dubs to win all Leinster matches by 12 or more at 7/2 is a safe one. Monaghan will give Down a bit of a licking too and -4 looks too good to pass up. Hurling this weekend is throwing up the more appetising games in terms of competition. Rashers would hop a rugby ball never mind a basketball...............................................no fear of him. And my Dubs special handicap falls at the first hurdle.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jun 6, 2016 16:00:21 GMT
Rashers would hop a rugby ball never mind a basketball...............................................no fear of him. And my Dubs special handicap falls at the first hurdle. The Gentleman, scholar and raconteur Mr Tierney Esquire offers the most sincere of apologies to his good Kingdom friend for Mr Connollys abject failure from the penalty spot. Mr Tierney himself had a modest wager on an 8-12 point margin.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jun 6, 2016 16:03:44 GMT
The main reason the Hill faithful wont be travelling in massive numbers is surely a combination of the fine weather and the Euros. Instead of going to the match, Whacker and Joxer will save some money for the trip to France by heading to the nearest canal bank, drink a few cans of cheap cider, jump into the canal when it gets too hot and find out the result of the Dublin game sometime on Sunday afternoon when they wake up. Ah feck, yisser knows us too bleedin well, wha! But you forgot t' mention de shoppin trolly, wouldnt be seen dead jumpin in da Royaler without first bein sat in one of Marks and Spencers finest wheels
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 6, 2016 19:05:02 GMT
Real shame Dublin won't be travelling to Navan in the event of a Meath victory against Louth! Louth's grounds are probably too small to host to Dubs. Dublin v Meath in Navan would be a great occasion.
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Post by skybluezone on Jun 6, 2016 20:14:14 GMT
Real shame Dublin won't be travelling to Navan in the event of a Meath victory against Louth! Louth's grounds are probably too small to host to Dubs. Dublin v Meath in Navan would be a great occasion. [/quote Think Navan holds about 25k. In that case id be fairly certain of a sellout. Shame is right, though its not too long ago that the Royal were claiming Croker was their 2nd home...
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 6, 2016 21:34:18 GMT
skybluezone...why do you think it is that so few Dubs travel to away games?
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Post by sullyschoice on Jun 6, 2016 22:24:23 GMT
They are saving their cash for a trip to the Charity Shield
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