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Post by rapook on Jul 17, 2016 21:22:19 GMT
Any harm in asking who the legion player was and who was ref ? Sounds like a very frightening situation for the ref !
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 17, 2016 21:30:05 GMT
Any harm in asking who the legion player was and who was ref ? Sounds like a very frightening situation for the ref ! The ref was Dermot Hughes, Listowel- only those who were at the game know who the player is!
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Post by rapook on Jul 17, 2016 22:01:01 GMT
If he did attack ref like is being reported i personally hope he never laces boots again harsh as that may seem.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 7:26:26 GMT
That's crazy assaulting a ref - I heard he kicked him and not alone that tried to get at the ref again only to be held back by team mates - crazy stuff and the county board will surely make an example. Especially at a time where they are trying to encourage younger refs into the game.
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Post by hugh20 on Jul 18, 2016 8:39:21 GMT
This is a disgrace. The same player in question has been sent off twice previously this year and the rulebook should be thrown at his.....complete disrespect for the referee. He brings down his teammates and the club with him, if he does not get a lengthy ban then he club should impose a lengthy ban. An absolute disgrace, we should be talking about the football and the great performances of Glenbeigh + the likes this weekend but this player has tarnished all that.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 18, 2016 8:49:16 GMT
Great win for Glenbeigh.
No condoning what happened in Milltown but maybe it wasnt too surprising.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 18, 2016 8:56:44 GMT
Rahillys went to Dingle and came away with the points in a dour struggle played in difficult conditions; a heavy mist before the game made for a greasy pitch with players on both sides struggling to cope with the conditions- allied to this was a poor refereeing performance, inconsistent throughout and often leaving players baffled by his decisions. Both teams were much changed from their county championship exploits for in addition to the loss of county players, Dingle were short the services of Barra O'Suilleabhain, Marc O'Connor, Conor Geaney and Cathal O'Bambaire; Rahillys were without Ross O'Callaghan and Jack Savage who damaged ankle ligaments in Kerry training.
Rahillys played into the stiff breeze in the opening half and quickly built up a 3 point lead through Tommy Walsh, operating at full forward, with good support from John C O'Connor and Kieran O'Mahony; Dingle came back into the game with Matthew Flaherty and Tom O'Suilleabhain causing problems for the Strand Rd defence and lead by 0-5 to 0-4 at the interval, Tommy Walsh being the sole scorer for Rahillys.
The second half followed the pattern of the first with defences on top, and scores at a premium; Dingle were 0-6 to 0-5 ahead when a fine move by Rahillys resulted in John Ferguson finishing to the net and it proved to be the decisive score; from there to the finish both sides missed chances but Rahillys just held on for a vital 2 points.
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Post by seasiders on Jul 18, 2016 9:34:34 GMT
That's crazy assaulting a ref - I heard he kicked him and not alone that tried to get at the ref again only to be held back by team mates - crazy stuff and the county board will surely make an example. Especially at a time where they are trying to encourage younger refs into the game. This was an act of lunacy by the player involved and cannot be condoned, some of the refs would need a good kick up the backside especially the ones who show no respect to the players. Respect is a two way thing and if that along with a bit of consistency was shown incidents like this would not happen. It’s a very rare thing these days to talk about a game without mentioning how poor the ref was, something needs to be done to get former players reffing games. I know this incident will not encourage anyone to take up reffing but the GAA need to put their thinking caps on and get rid of the majority of poor refs and unfortunately there is quite a few in Kerry.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 18, 2016 9:54:13 GMT
Rahillys went to Dingle and came away with the points in a dour struggle played in difficult conditions; a heavy mist before the game made for a greasy pitch with players on both sides struggling to cope with the conditions- allied to this was a poor refereeing performance, inconsistent throughout and often leaving players baffled by his decisions. Both teams were much changed from their county championship exploits for in addition to the loss of county players, Dingle were short the services of Barra O'Suilleabhain, Marc O'Connor, Conor Geaney and Cathal O'Bambaire; Rahillys were without Ross O'Callaghan and Jack Savage who damaged ankle ligaments in Kerry training. Rahillys played into the stiff breeze in the opening half and quickly built up a 3 point lead through Tommy Walsh, operating at full forward, with good support from John C O'Connor and Kieran O'Mahony; Dingle came back into the game with Matthew Flaherty and Tom O'Suilleabhain causing problems for the Strand Rd defence and lead by 0-5 to 0-4 at the interval, Tommy Walsh being the sole scorer for Rahillys. The second half followed the pattern of the first with defences on top, and scores at a premium; Dingle were 0-6 to 0-5 ahead when a fine move by Rahillys resulted in John Ferguson finishing to the net and it proved to be the decisive score; from there to the finish both sides missed chances but Rahillys just held on for a vital 2 points. Any idea how long Savage is out for? Big blow after recent progress being made
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Post by keane on Jul 18, 2016 9:56:54 GMT
John Ferguson is having a ridiculously good couple of weeks. 2-6 against Desmonds, 2-1 against Legion and another goal against Dingle yesterday.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 18, 2016 10:04:41 GMT
Rahillys went to Dingle and came away with the points in a dour struggle played in difficult conditions; a heavy mist before the game made for a greasy pitch with players on both sides struggling to cope with the conditions- allied to this was a poor refereeing performance, inconsistent throughout and often leaving players baffled by his decisions. Both teams were much changed from their county championship exploits for in addition to the loss of county players, Dingle were short the services of Barra O'Suilleabhain, Marc O'Connor, Conor Geaney and Cathal O'Bambaire; Rahillys were without Ross O'Callaghan and Jack Savage who damaged ankle ligaments in Kerry training. Rahillys played into the stiff breeze in the opening half and quickly built up a 3 point lead through Tommy Walsh, operating at full forward, with good support from John C O'Connor and Kieran O'Mahony; Dingle came back into the game with Matthew Flaherty and Tom O'Suilleabhain causing problems for the Strand Rd defence and lead by 0-5 to 0-4 at the interval, Tommy Walsh being the sole scorer for Rahillys. The second half followed the pattern of the first with defences on top, and scores at a premium; Dingle were 0-6 to 0-5 ahead when a fine move by Rahillys resulted in John Ferguson finishing to the net and it proved to be the decisive score; from there to the finish both sides missed chances but Rahillys just held on for a vital 2 points. Any idea how long Savage is out for? Big blow after recent progress being made He will miss the next 2 league games at least, but is expected to be available mid August.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 18, 2016 10:29:19 GMT
Any idea how long Savage is out for? Big blow after recent progress being made He will miss the next 2 league games at least, but is expected to be available mid August. Thats a real pity- I'd imagine we wont see him for Kerry until the league
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Post by wornout2 on Jul 18, 2016 10:42:50 GMT
This is a disgrace. The same player in question has been sent off twice previously this year and the rulebook should be thrown at his.....complete disrespect for the referee. He brings down his teammates and the club with him, if he does not get a lengthy ban then he club should impose a lengthy ban. An absolute disgrace, we should be talking about the football and the great performances of Glenbeigh + the likes this weekend but this player has tarnished all that. Scandalous behaviour. What I'm most upset with is that it took me until Monday morning to hear the story given my proximity to the referee!! On a serious note a lengthy ban is required. Hope the County Board deal with it accordingly and stamp out this behaviour. All too often these incidents are brushed under the carpet.
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Post by letswinone on Jul 18, 2016 10:55:04 GMT
That's crazy assaulting a ref - I heard he kicked him and not alone that tried to get at the ref again only to be held back by team mates - crazy stuff and the county board will surely make an example. Especially at a time where they are trying to encourage younger refs into the game. This was an act of lunacy by the player involved and cannot be condoned, some of the refs would need a good kick up the backside especially the ones who show no respect to the players. Respect is a two way thing and if that along with a bit of consistency was shown incidents like this would not happen. It’s a very rare thing these days to talk about a game without mentioning how poor the ref was, something needs to be done to get former players reffing games. I know this incident will not encourage anyone to take up reffing but the GAA need to put their thinking caps on and get rid of the majority of poor refs and unfortunately there is quite a few in Kerry.
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Post by letswinone on Jul 18, 2016 11:01:15 GMT
That's crazy assaulting a ref - I heard he kicked him and not alone that tried to get at the ref again only to be held back by team mates - crazy stuff and the county board will surely make an example. Especially at a time where they are trying to encourage younger refs into the game. This was an act of lunacy by the player involved and cannot be condoned, some of the refs would need a good kick up the backside especially the ones who show no respect to the players. Respect is a two way thing and if that along with a bit of consistency was shown incidents like this would not happen. It’s a very rare thing these days to talk about a game without mentioning how poor the ref was, something needs to be done to get former players reffing games. I know this incident will not encourage anyone to take up reffing but the GAA need to put their thinking caps on and get rid of the majority of poor refs and unfortunately there is quite a few in Kerry. To talk about ref and kick up the backside is wrong. Wet night,hard job to control stuff between physical sides and he reprimanded both sides for back chat so he was equal. The player was out of control for last 10 mins. Milltown Castlemaine got a free he started abusing ref. Ref brought ball 10 yards made it easy. Kept abusing ref and rightly so red card. Then pushed ref to ground and finally proceeded to kick ref as he was getting up. One word Assault. If on the street he would be brought to a cell in Killorglin. Time to stand up for the referee in this case.
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Post by ciarrailar on Jul 18, 2016 13:56:59 GMT
Great win for Glenbeigh. No condoning what happened in Milltown but maybe it wasnt too surprising.Care to expand Buck??
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Post by ciarrailar on Jul 18, 2016 14:02:53 GMT
This was an act of lunacy by the player involved and cannot be condoned, some of the refs would need a good kick up the backside especially the ones who show no respect to the players. Respect is a two way thing and if that along with a bit of consistency was shown incidents like this would not happen. It’s a very rare thing these days to talk about a game without mentioning how poor the ref was, something needs to be done to get former players reffing games. I know this incident will not encourage anyone to take up reffing but the GAA need to put their thinking caps on and get rid of the majority of poor refs and unfortunately there is quite a few in Kerry. To talk about ref and kick up the backside is wrong. Wet night,hard job to control stuff between physical sides and he reprimanded both sides for back chat so he was equal. The player was out of control for last 10 mins. Milltown Castlemaine got a free he started abusing ref. Ref brought ball 10 yards made it easy. Kept abusing ref and rightly so red card. Then pushed ref to ground and finally proceeded to kick ref as he was getting up. One word Assault. If on the street he would be brought to a cell in Killorglin. Time to stand up for the referee in this case. Well said.... We need to protect our referees or we won't have any!
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Post by allrounder on Jul 18, 2016 14:33:24 GMT
I've never heard of Dermot, is he a young up and coming ref?? Hope this doesn't deter him if he is. all depending on his report, the legion lad won't have to worry about football for a while.really has been a rotten season for legion so far.
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Post by fivenarow on Jul 18, 2016 16:02:29 GMT
This is a disgrace. The same player in question has been sent off twice previously this year and the rulebook should be thrown at his.....complete disrespect for the referee. He brings down his teammates and the club with him, if he does not get a lengthy ban then he club should impose a lengthy ban. An absolute disgrace, we should be talking about the football and the great performances of Glenbeigh + the likes this weekend but this player has tarnished all that. If that is correct then I think this guy is in a spot of bother. Then again everyone is different so depending on what kind of guy he is he mightnt take a blind bit of notice of it. The best way to deal with these guys is to put it on record somewhere in the county board for life so when their career is finished in 5 years & they want to teach young their own young fellow how to behave on a pitch they are told sorry buddy but you dont pass the code of ethics. Its like the guy that hit Paul Galvin with the hurley a few years ago - personally, I wouldnt let him inside the gate of a field again. You'd give any fellow a break but being sent off 3 times in a season is anger management stuff.
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Post by seasiders on Jul 18, 2016 20:36:10 GMT
To talk about ref and kick up the backside is wrong. Wet night,hard job to control stuff between physical sides and he reprimanded both sides for back chat so he was equal. The player was out of control for last 10 mins. Milltown Castlemaine got a free he started abusing ref. Ref brought ball 10 yards made it easy. Kept abusing ref and rightly so red card. Then pushed ref to ground and finally proceeded to kick ref as he was getting up. One word Assault. If on the street he would be brought to a cell in Killorglin. Time to stand up for the referee in this case. Well said.... We need to protect our referees or we won't have any! I was referring to refs in general not the guy that was assaulted, have you never used the term “he could do with a kick up the backside”? Of course I didn’t mean that they should get a kick. I’m sure most people would agree that the standard of referring is very poor however that does not give anyone the right to physically abuse them.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 18, 2016 20:45:00 GMT
Well said.... We need to protect our referees or we won't have any! I was referring to refs in general not the guy that was assaulted, have you never used the term “he could do with a kick up the backside”? Of course I didn’t mean that they should get a kick. I’m sure most people would agree that the standard of referring is very poor however that does not give anyone the right to physically abuse them. You can hardly blame people for thinking you were speaking literally considering the referee was kicked on the ground.
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Post by ciarrailar on Jul 18, 2016 21:02:41 GMT
I've never heard of Dermot, is he a young up and coming ref?? Hope this doesn't deter him if he is. all depending on his report, the legion lad won't have to worry about football for a while.really has been a rotten season for legion so far. Don't know this ref, doubt I've ever seen him doing a game. From what I gather this would carry a 48 week suspension on its own. If the other sendings off are taken into account it could be more. I don't know the player or anything about him but a strong line needs to be taken on this issue or there'll be no referees to do games.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 23:03:16 GMT
Yerah look lads the player involved must feel terrible and depressed after the incident - we all know on here he was in the wrong so let's just leave it to the co board to decide - my own opinion is it warrants a year and a hefty ban for the club and a warning as to their future conduct... That's my take on it anyway
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Post by letswinone on Jul 19, 2016 17:30:36 GMT
I was referring to refs in general not the guy that was assaulted, have you never used the term “he could do with a kick up the backside”? Of course I didn’t mean that they should get a kick. I’m sure most people would agree that the standard of referring is very poor however that does not give anyone the right to physically abuse them. You can hardly blame people for thinking you were speaking literally considering the referee was kicked on the ground. Im not a ref and have been frustrated every match.Blame lies at County Board. Last years county final at the end the abuse the ref got was so wrong yet he ended up the fall guy. What should have happened suspensions for aggressors and then a line would have been drawn. I'm not saying his decisions were correct, do not forget they are amateurs 1 man where a player make a mistake he has 14 people to help. Also county players get away with so much. That needs to stop.
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Post by Fado on Jul 19, 2016 22:19:50 GMT
Unacceptable behaviour, should be up before the judge for assault.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 23, 2016 21:02:21 GMT
Rahillys and Milltown shared the spoils on Friday night in an oft times feisty encounter on a final scoreline of 2-12 each. Rahillys started the brighter and were 0-2 to nil ahead after 5 mins through Gearoid Savage and Tommy Walsh; MTC came more into the game through good play from David Roche and Donal Kelliher and were 0-4 to 0-3 ahead after 15 mins; Rahillys came more into the game with Kieran O'Mahony, Shane Brosnan, John Ferguson and Tommy Walsh ( operating at full forward), most prominent and had the first of their two goals when John Ferguson found Eoin O'Carroll on the edge of the square with a sweet pass and he made no mistake to find the net, 1-04 to 0-4 points; Tommy Walsh with a soaring catch and equally good point increased their lead and when Tommy again gained possession on the edge of the square, John Ferguson netted his sixth goal in four games to leave Rahillys comfortably ahead 2-6 to 0-7 at the short whistle. John Ferguson did not resume in the second half being replaced by Johnny Keane and his withdrawal was a big loss to the Strand Rd outfit.
The second half saw the lead change hands on a couple of occasions and with 7 mins remaining Rahillys led by 2-10 to 1-11 and looked to have done enough to secure all 2 points; however,a Rahillys attack with goal written all over it was repulsed and quickly transferring the ball to the other half of the pitch, MTC goaled to lead in the final minutes of the game; Rahillys recovered and fired over two points to lead by one with a couple of minutes to play; MTC had other ideas and finished the game the stronger eventually tieing up the game at 2-12 each.
Rahillys will feel that they left this game behind them but missing a no of players ( Jack Savage injured, John C O'Connor on Kerry junior duty, David McLoughlin US), they can feel well pleased with their point. Best on the night were Danny O'Sullivan, Ryan Carroll, Kieran O'Mahony ( scored 0-7), Tommy Walsh and the outstanding Shane Brosnan.
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Post by A.N. Other on Jul 24, 2016 9:41:06 GMT
I'd imagine MTC will feel they left this behind them considering the point that was kicked and given wide at the very end of the game. It was an entertaining game with both teams playing numerous under 21 players. I thought Diarmuid O Sullivan was very good also, he has came on so much in the last 12-18 months.
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Post by keepitsimple on Jul 24, 2016 10:19:13 GMT
Anyone at the Desmonds v Dr Crokes game last night ? From what I've heard Desmonds had 3/4 of their junior team out and Crokes could have won by 30 points or more if they didn,t keep taking points instead of goals. Apparantly the Desmonds physical trainer has walked out so it seems that all is not well in the island.
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Post by itsmyfield on Jul 24, 2016 12:11:09 GMT
Anyone at the Desmonds v Dr Crokes game last night ? From what I've heard Desmonds had 3/4 of their junior team out and Crokes could have won by 30 points or more if they didn,t keep taking points instead of goals. Apparantly the Desmonds physical trainer has walked out so it seems that all is not well in the island. Match finished 2-23 to 1-07. Desmonds have mounting injuries to contend with, think they had ten or more going into the game, including the three hickeys and their corner forward who was showing well for them seemed to tear his hamstring midway through the first half. Don't think they're too worried about last nights result, so wouldn't read too much into the scoreline
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 14:46:16 GMT
Both sides were down some players. Game was over at half time 1-15 to 0-2. Second half going through the motions. Crokes just ran the bench. Desmonds have 9 points that might be enough to keep them up.
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