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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 16:08:12 GMT
thesquareball, can you copy and paste the piece from Kerry eye in here, I can't find it.
Which player was it?
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Post by Control5 on Mar 14, 2016 16:56:45 GMT
I think the first thing is to establish whether management allows this or has an issue with it. If management allows it then that's the issue for discussion. If its a breach of agreed rules laid down then thats the issue.
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Post by thesquareball on Mar 14, 2016 16:57:22 GMT
i made a comment about kerry hurling that would not occur on any other county panel ,also i won t be mentioning any players name or commenting further on this topic
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 18:27:28 GMT
Congrats to Aidan McCabe of Kilmoyley who was named as the Goalkeeper on Hoganstand Hurling team of the week.
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Post by mossie on Mar 14, 2016 20:09:23 GMT
can t understand kerry hurling management tolerating players on panel also playing soccer,are they serious or what,it shows a serious lack of judgement on all party s concered ah lads ease up, a leading Kerry footballer was playing basketball all winter and on the weekend of a national football league weekend. didn't see it being raised as an issue here. Not that it was an issue. lads don't have to be married to one sport - they are not professionals
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Post by mossie on Mar 14, 2016 20:15:22 GMT
Congrats to Aidan McCabe of Kilmoyley who was named as the Goalkeeper on Hoganstand Hurling team of the week. Kerry have always had good keepers down the years - johnny Conway, JP Hickey, John Healy etc. Tadhg Flynn played a lot of Fitzgibbon hurling for U.L.
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Post by southward on Mar 18, 2016 21:30:34 GMT
The Kerry Senior Hurling Team to play Offaly in the Allianz Hurling League Round 5 at Birr on Sunday next shows three changes in personnel and a number of positional changes from the side went down to Clare in Round 4. Bryan Murphy returns after suspension to the full back line, James O’Connor starts in the half forward line and Jordan Conway comes into the full forward line with Dougie Fitzelle, Thomas Casey and John Buckley the players to lose out. The team captained by Daniel Collins of Kilmoyley lines out as follows: 1 Aidan McCabe Kilmoyley 2 Bryan Murphy Causeway 3 Patrick Kelly Clarecastle 4 Keith Carmody Causeway 5 Jason Diggins Causeway 6 Darren Dineen St Brendans 7 Tom Murnane Kilmoyley 8 Daniel Collins (C) Kilmoyley 9 John Griffin Lixnaw 10 James O’Connor Abbeydorney 11 Michael O’Leary Abbeydorney 12 Colum Harty Causeway 13 Jordan Conway Crotta O’Neills 14 Mikey Boyle Ballyduff 15 John Egan St Brendans Fir Ionaid: 16 Stephen Murphy Causeway 17 Brendan Brosnan Lixnaw 18 John Buckley Lixnaw 19 Tommy Casey Causeway 20 Paudie O’Connor Kilmoyley 21 Dougie Fitzelle Kilmoyley 22 Jack Goulding Ballyduff 23 Philip Lucid Ballyheigue 24 Shane Nolan Crotta O’Neills 25 Brendan O’Leary Abbeydorney 26 Sean Weir Crotta O’Neills ***********************************************************************************
Shane Nolan on the bench
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Post by wideball on Mar 19, 2016 21:15:57 GMT
Anyone know why shane nolan is on the bench?
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Post by watchdebreakswillye on Mar 19, 2016 21:30:41 GMT
Best of luck to our hurlers tomorrow in Birr. It's not the end of the world or the road if we lose. Am I right in thinking that the bottom two teams play off? Does the team that loses the play-off then play the winner of Division 2a to decide who fills the slot for next year in 1B or am I way off the mark in my thinking? Tomorrow's game is interesting from a management point of view too with Eamon Kelly, former Kerry boss, up against his former charges and new head buck cat Ciaran Carey. It looks like a home win, especially after Offaly beating Wexford the last day out. You'd never know though and with a dry ball and dry field and nothing to lose, stranger things have happened. Surprising to see Shane Nolan in the subs. He must be carrying some class of a knock? The best of luck to again to all the lads.
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Post by clancy on Mar 19, 2016 21:33:01 GMT
Anyone know why shane nolan is on the bench? A. his form is poor at present but he will hit his best again by summer and might be best suited inside. B. And more importantly there are several starters not playing. Testing the lads who have not got as much game time. The match is effectively a warm up win or lose for playoff with Laois.
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Post by wideball on Mar 19, 2016 21:40:09 GMT
Anyone know why shane nolan is on the bench? A. his form is poor at present but he will hit his best again by summer and might be best suited inside. B. And more importantly there are several starters not playing. Testing the lads who have not got as much game time. The match is effectively a warm up win or lose for playoff with Laois. I like that no one is untouchable on the team. Out of interest who else on the bench would you consider a starter? And who would you drop for them?
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Post by clancy on Mar 19, 2016 22:14:10 GMT
A. his form is poor at present but he will hit his best again by summer and might be best suited inside. B. And more importantly there are several starters not playing. Testing the lads who have not got as much game time. The match is effectively a warm up win or lose for playoff with Laois. I like that no one is untouchable on the team. Out of interest who else on the bench would you consider a starter? And who would you drop for them? I'm only going off who started in the 1st 3 games and played well too. Jack Goulding and Sean weir both started all however were not without fault but who was. Played well generally. I'm sure the fellas to come back will push for positions. The guys who came on didn't look any better or worse than the lads they replayed in first 3 matches so I I wouldn't be able to disagree with the team that's picked v Laois as I'm not knowledgeable enough on the squad.
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Post by clancy on Mar 19, 2016 22:48:23 GMT
Am I right in thinking that the bottom two teams play off? Does the team that loses the play-off then play the winner of Division 2a to decide who fills the slot for next year in 1B or am I way off the mark in my thinking?
You are spot on. 2 outs here. Best to beat Laois though on the 1st attempt really.
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Post by clancy on Mar 19, 2016 22:53:44 GMT
Am I right in thinking that the bottom two teams play off? Does the team that loses the play-off then play the winner of Division 2a to decide who fills the slot for next year in 1B or am I way off the mark in my thinking? You are spot on. 2 outs here. Best to beat Laois though on the 1st attempt really. That was meant to be a quote from watchthenreakswillye sorry
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Post by baller21 on Mar 19, 2016 23:31:37 GMT
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Post by watchdebreakswillye on Mar 20, 2016 0:05:51 GMT
Am I right in thinking that the bottom two teams play off? Does the team that loses the play-off then play the winner of Division 2a to decide who fills the slot for next year in 1B or am I way off the mark in my thinking? You are spot on. 2 outs here. Best to beat Laois though on the 1st attempt really. Thanks for clarification. Go raiibh maith agat
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Post by southward on Mar 20, 2016 15:32:51 GMT
FT Offaly 2-17 Kerry 2-18.
Wow, fair dues.
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Mar 20, 2016 15:40:40 GMT
If Laois had drawn/beaten Wexford would we've made the QF's?
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Post by clancy on Mar 20, 2016 15:57:20 GMT
If Laois had drawn/beaten Wexford would we've made the QF's? yep we would be in if draw or Laois win. Or if our score difference was better than 1 of Offaly or Wexford. Pity. Would have being unreal to play 1/4 and avoid having relegation battle
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 20, 2016 16:46:55 GMT
Kerry Hurlers shock Offaly at home Fulltime. Great win for Kerry. Kerry 2-18 Offaly 2-17. Kerry 2-18 Offaly 2-17. Kerry 2-18 Offaly 2-16. Kerry 2-17 Offaly 2-16. Kerry 2-16 Offaly 2-16. Kerry 2-16 Offaly 2-15. Kerry 2-15 Offaly 2-15. Goal for Kerry. 2-13 a piece. Offaly 2-13 Kerry 1-13. Goal for Kerry by John Egan. Offaly 1-13 Kerry 1-10. Early stages of the second half. Offaly 1-13 Kerry 0-10. Offaly 1-11 Kerry 0-10 at half time. Offaly 1-10 Kerry 0-9. Offaly 1-10 Kerry 0-8 after 34 mins. Offaly 1-9 Kerry 0-8. Offaly 1-9 Kerry 0-7. Offaly 1-8 Kerry 0-5. offaly 1-5 Kerry 0-3. Offaly 1-5 Kerry 0-2. Offaly 1-4 Kerry 0-2. Offaly 1-3 Kerry 0-2. Kerry open their account. Offaly 1-2 Kerry 0-1. 5mins gone in the hurling league. Offaly 1-02 Kerry 0-0. Goal for Offaly. Offaly 1-1 Kerry 0-0. Offaly open the scoring against the Kerry hurlers.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 20, 2016 16:52:54 GMT
Offaly 2-17 Kerry 2-18
Kerry produced the shock of the season so far to claim their first victory over Offaly in 60 years at Birr in Division 1A this afternoon.
Kerry did not lead for the first time until 14 minutes from the end but they then had the character to hold out in a dramatic finish to a thrilling encounter.
Unfortunately for Kerry, the win was not enough for them to secure a quarter-final spot and they now must regroup and prepare to face off against Laois in a relegation play-off.
Kerry had not beaten Offaly in the league since recording only their second win over them way back in the 1956/57 season and initial signs were net promising for the Kingdom.
Offaly's Shane Dooley pointed an early free and then Joe Bergin soloed through to blast a superb shot to the roof of the net after three minutes, with another Dooley free making it 1-02 to 0-00 after just five minutes.
A Colin Egan point and two more from Dooley made it 1-05 to 0-02 at the end of the opening quarter, with Mikey Boyle and John Egan responding for Kerry.
Kerry improved as the game progressed with corner-forwards Jordan Conway and Egan looking sharp.
Egan landed six points, five of them frees, in the opening half with Conway hitting two excellent efforts.
But the accuracy of Dooley kept Offaly in front with the Tullamore man shooting 0-08 in the opening half, five of them frees and one from a superb sideline cut on the left.
Offaly led by 1-09 to 0-05 eight minutes from the break but two quick points from Conway and an Egan effort from play cut the gap to four, with the sides twice exchanging points before the break.
That left Offaly leading by 1-11 to 0-10 at the interval, with Dooley and Bergin extending the lead with points in the opening two minutes of the second-half.
But then Egan soloed through and blasted home a superb goal to give Kerry a huge boost.
Egan and Mikey Boyle added scores to cut the gap to just a point, but then Offaly struck a major blow when James Mulrooney broke through to fire to the net from the left.
But Kerry were unfazed. Egan hit a free and then Colum Harty soloed through to drill a low shot to the net to level the sides at 2-13 apiece after 48 minutes.
Kerry hit the front for the first time in the game eight minutes later when Conway pointed, setting up a thrilling final quarter where the lead changed hands three times.
Two points from Dooley edged Offaly back in front, then John Griffin and Egan responded to give Kerry the lead again seven minutes from time.
Another Dooley free levelled a minute after that but Egan and Shane Nolan landed points to put Kerry two ahead two minutes from the end of normal time.
Dooley cut the gap to the minimum going into four minutes of stoppage time but they were unable to snatch a draw and Kerry held on for a famous win, even if it wasn’t enough in the end to secure a shock quarter-final spot.
Kerry: A McCabe; B Murphy, P Kelly, K Carmody; J Diggins, D Dineen, T Murnane; D Collins, J Griffin (0-02); B O’Leary, M O’Leary, J Buckley; J Conway (0-03), M Boyle (0-02), J Egan (1-10, 0-09f).
Subs: C Harty (1-00) for Buckley (35 mins), S Nolan (0-01) for B O’Leary (54 mins), T Casey for Diggins (58 mins), S Weir for Kelly (63 mins), P Lucid for Griffin (70 mins).
Offaly: J Dempsey; N Wynne, C McDonald, P Rigney; P Camon, C Doughan, D Shortt; S Kinsella, S Ryan (0-01); P Murphy, C Egan (0-01), J Mulrooney (1-01); S Dooley (0-13, 0-08f, 0-01 sideline, 0-01 ’65)), J Bergin (1-01), S Cleary.
Subs: J Sampson for Murphy (32 mins), C Kiely for Cleary (42 mins), K Connolly for Kinsella (52 mins), S Connolly for Wynne (55 mins), P Guinan for Ryan (64 mins).
Referee: J Keane (Galway).
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Post by G_S_J on Mar 20, 2016 17:23:01 GMT
Another incredible result, restored a bit of pride after that flat performance against Wexford, but a pity the points against done the damage that day.
Kerry will face Laois in the promotion final, if they fail to win that they play the winners of the Division 2A final for the right to remain in Division 1B.
The match will be played in Austin Stack Park on the weekend of April 2/3
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Post by southward on Mar 20, 2016 18:22:47 GMT
F*ckin ridiculous having to play a relegation play-off against a side who finished with no points. At least we have home advantage. Could be a double header with the Cork game.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 20, 2016 18:36:17 GMT
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Post by tpo on Mar 20, 2016 20:14:57 GMT
Same rules in Football and Hurling. If 2 teams on same points its head to head if more than 2 its score diffference
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Post by veteran on Mar 20, 2016 20:33:51 GMT
I am delighted for the hurlers after seeing them capitulate to,Wexford. I was shocked at how poor they were that day. I wonder did the occasion , sharing the bill with the footballers, intimidate them. There is a possibility that they may play Laois before the Kerry v Cork game which is likely to attract a huge crowd. I wonder would they be better off playing on the Saturday when there would be less focus on them ?
This ignoring the steps rule in hurling reached an unprecedented level today in the Limerick v Clare game. Clare got a goal in the opening minutes and I thought the Clare player would never stop running. He must have taken twelve steps . This is becoming a farce .
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 20, 2016 21:29:47 GMT
The standard is pretty high in Division 1B for teams like Loais and Kerry trying to make the step up.
I mean Wexford have won the last three Leinster u21 championships which is an impressive feat when you consider Kilkennys pedigree and the money pumped into Dublin in the past ten years.
Clare won the senior All Ireland in 2013 and the U21 All Ireland in 2012, 2013 and 2014.
And for good measure Limerick won the U21 All Ireland in 2015 and their champion club won the club All Ireland going away.
I doubt that in gaelic football you would find teams with such underage age success in tier two.
Either Cork or Galway will be in Division 1B next year along with Wexford and Limerick.
They used to have 8 teams in Division IA in years gone by.
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Post by G_S_J on Mar 20, 2016 21:44:21 GMT
This ignoring the steps rule in hurling reached an unprecedented level today in the Limerick v Clare game. Clare got a goal in the opening minutes and I thought the Clare player would never stop running. He must have taken twelve steps . This is becoming a farce . I had two looks at it and counted 15 the first time 16 the second. Honestly never seen it as bad, without being pulled for a free. Ref must have been waving at someone in the crowd. On your first point, I do agree the occasion may have got to them, but the players need to take on the occasion if they want to make the step up and insure this run is no flash in the pan.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 20, 2016 22:45:07 GMT
I think the Wexford game didn't do Kerry justice. The stronger team played with a gale force wind in the first half and succeeded in putting up a big score. Considering where the two teams were coming from Kerry's task in the second half was almost impossible.
I wouldn't be against having another double header.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 21, 2016 1:21:40 GMT
Well done to all concerned, proves that you get better playing better teams, the hurling fraternity always supported football so hopefully we will now return the compliment in every respect and if the forum is a reflection then we are doing that.
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