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Post by kerryeye on May 5, 2015 15:20:14 GMT
There should be a good panel available to the Kerry Juniors this year.They should be able to use a lot of the under 21 panel and players on fringe of seniors aswell.
Goalkeepers Shane Murphy Darragh O Shea
Backs Gavin Crowley Greg Gibson Denis Daly Padraig O Sé Michael Brennan Jack McGuire Tadgh Morley Ronan Murphy Cathal O Luing Sean Moloney Fionan Clifford Brian O Beaglaioch
Midfielders Jack Barry Thomas Ladden Brendan O Sullivan James Walsh
Forwards Adrian Spillane Philip O’Connor Ciaran Keating Brian Crowley Gavan O’Grady Paul Kennelly Thomas Hickey Darragh Roche Jeff O Donoghue Paul O Donoghue Conor Cox Killian Spillane Eanna O Connchuir Niall Sheehy
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Post by Premier on May 5, 2015 22:00:41 GMT
There should be a good panel available to the Kerry Juniors this year.They should be able to use a lot of the under 21 panel and players on fringe of seniors aswell. GoalkeepersShane Murphy Darragh O Shea BacksGavin Crowley Greg Gibson Denis Daly Padraig O Sé Michael Brennan Jack McGuire Tadgh Morley Ronan Murphy Cathal O Luing Sean Moloney Fionan Clifford Brian O Beaglaioch MidfieldersJack Barry Thomas Ladden Brendan O Sullivan James Walsh ForwardsAdrian Spillane Philip O’Connor Ciaran Keating Brian Crowley Gavan O’Grady Paul Kennelly Thomas Hickey Darragh Roche Jeff O Donoghue Paul O Donoghue Conor Cox Killian Spillane Eanna O Connchuir Niall Sheehy Darragh Roche is gone to America, Ciaran Keating is out with a long term injury too
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Post by homerj on May 5, 2015 22:17:34 GMT
Is there a rule that says last year's panel can't play this year or something like that?
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Post by kerryeye on May 5, 2015 22:27:51 GMT
Is there a rule that says last year's panel can't play this year or something like that? That rule only applies if they won the All Ireland so not a worry for Kerry this year,can pick who they want.
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Post by yellowbelly on May 5, 2015 23:37:24 GMT
Shane Murphy played in the Senior Club Championship for Kilcummin last year, however Gooch would be eligible to play for the Kerry Juniors.
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Post by Premier on May 6, 2015 8:24:53 GMT
Shane Murphy played in the Senior Club Championship for Kilcummin last year, however Gooch would be eligible to play for the Kerry Juniors. Is it not county championship it's based off?
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Post by dashboard on May 6, 2015 9:09:56 GMT
Think if you play senior championship with your club your not eligible divisional player's would be, last years team would be available as far as I know as they didn't win last year
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Post by homerj on May 6, 2015 15:07:10 GMT
Shane Murphy played in the Senior Club Championship for Kilcummin last year, however Gooch would be eligible to play for the Kerry Juniors. Lol would be some laugh if he played for the juniors to get some practice!! Need to use the juniors to bed in the u-21s who have got fu*k all game time this year and last year. Ideally, the Juniors becomes essentially the stepping stone to the senior panel and it would be nice to see fitzmaurice heavily involved
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Post by Premier on Jun 6, 2015 13:08:14 GMT
The Kerry juniors game on the 14th is clashing with a round of county league fixtures, how did the county board allow this to happen??
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 6, 2015 13:20:11 GMT
The Kerry juniors game on the 14th is clashing with a round of county league fixtures, how did the county board allow this to happen?? Taking this and the county championship fiasco into account- I'd imagine the answer is that they are not very good at their jobs. Nothing underhanded- they are just poor administrators
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Post by kerryeye on Jun 6, 2015 15:04:50 GMT
The Kerry juniors game on the 14th is clashing with a round of county league fixtures, how did the county board allow this to happen?? I would say (A) They dont care about the Kerry Juniors and (B) They certainly dont care about the clubs.
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 6, 2015 15:38:57 GMT
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Post by tadgh10 on Jun 7, 2015 10:49:08 GMT
Think this junior panel is even younger than last year with a few of last year's minors involved not sure which player's, absolutely scandalous of the county board to put on league game's the night before, so much for player burnout
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Post by tman59 on Jun 7, 2015 16:32:30 GMT
From what I'm after hearing , You have likes of cox , Hickey , James Walsh , McGuire, You have likes of Liam Carey , Liam Kearney , Rob Shea , Daniel Donoghue / Patrick Clifford / Shane Cronin / Paudie Cliford who were only in for parts of last years minor panel! Then you have crowleys from templenoe, Cillian Fitzgeard , Jeff O Donoghue , Hurley , can't remember the remaining but seems to be big panel of 30
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Post by Premier on Jun 7, 2015 16:35:45 GMT
Is Gavan Grady not on the panel, showing Senior inter county form not to mind Junior standard?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 7, 2015 16:47:08 GMT
Is the rule that stops players who played senior championship for a club side a self imposed rule or is it country-wide?
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 7, 2015 19:23:12 GMT
Is the rule that stops players who played senior championship for a club side a self imposed rule or is it country-wide? It's only for certain counties but it's not a self-imposed rule. The way the rules works is that a county has to apply to be allowed play their 2nd team. Kerry, Cork, and Mayo are the only counties who currently have the senior championship rule I think. Could well be wrong on this. Meath may possibly be another? Dublin (when they competed) fell under this rule. From the current rules of GAA
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 7, 2015 21:45:16 GMT
I think we should lobby to have the rule amended to allow players who play senior championship with their club but are under the age of 24 (ie guys just out of under 21s) play. It provide them with essential intercounty experience against grown men- I see Killian Spillane/Tom Hickey getting the chance to play but no Conor Keane or Jack Savage. These players development is thus being restricted.
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Post by tadgh10 on Jun 7, 2015 22:32:22 GMT
Yep fair point and it would certainly help kerrys chances any idea when the team is to be named and are these player's on the panel expected to play with there club the night before from what I hear there is no rule stopping them, seems to be putting the players under fierce pressure if the club is asking them to play
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Post by dabomber on Jun 7, 2015 22:34:19 GMT
Yep fair point and it would certainly help kerrys chances any idea when the team is to be named and are these player's on the panel expected to play with there club the night before from what I hear there is no rule stopping them, seems to be putting the players under fierce pressure if the club is asking them to play Wasn't it the craic 2/3 maybe 4 years ago that county league games were played the night before?
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Post by tadgh10 on Jun 7, 2015 22:43:28 GMT
Yep and aren't the most club's playing this Saturday night seems kind of crazy at least make a rule that if picked for the county juniors you are not available for the club the night before not leaving it up to the player's who could be put under pressure to play with the club
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 8, 2015 12:07:16 GMT
I think we should lobby to have the rule amended to allow players who play senior championship with their club but are under the age of 24 (ie guys just out of under 21s) play. It provide them with essential intercounty experience against grown men- I see Killian Spillane/Tom Hickey getting the chance to play but no Conor Keane or Jack Savage. These players development is thus being restricted. Good idea but I'd be surprised if the rest of the GAA would allow it to pass as they would just view it as a move that would help Kerry. Team to be named Wednesday most likely.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 8, 2015 12:58:59 GMT
I think we should lobby to have the rule amended to allow players who play senior championship with their club but are under the age of 24 (ie guys just out of under 21s) play. It provide them with essential intercounty experience against grown men- I see Killian Spillane/Tom Hickey getting the chance to play but no Conor Keane or Jack Savage. These players development is thus being restricted. Good idea but I'd be surprised if the rest of the GAA would allow it to pass as they would just view it as a move that would help Kerry. Team to be named Wednesday most likely. It would help us develop players but the argument in response should be- thats the whole point of the sport!
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Post by tadgh10 on Jun 8, 2015 13:36:32 GMT
Is killian Spillane in with the junior's I know liam carey liam kearney and Dan odo noghue are in there but I haven't heard mention of killian spillane
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Post by Jo90 on Jun 8, 2015 14:22:00 GMT
Some rule allowing 2 or 3 exceptions might be Kerry's best bet.
In the hurling equivalent, called intermediate, I see Tipp are allowed senior players with Cork and Kilkenny the only ones following the standard no-Seniors rule, although every team has the "none from the previous years team if All-Ireland winners" rule.
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 8, 2015 15:07:31 GMT
Good idea but I'd be surprised if the rest of the GAA would allow it to pass as they would just view it as a move that would help Kerry. Team to be named Wednesday most likely. It would help us develop players but the argument in response should be- thats the whole point of the sport! I think it would be a good move too but I just don't see it having a hope in hell of getting past the GAA powers that be.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 8, 2015 18:39:33 GMT
It would help us develop players but the argument in response should be- thats the whole point of the sport! I think it would be a good move too but I just don't see it having a hope in hell of getting past the GAA powers that be. I'm disagreeing that it would be ruled out but I just dont get the logic- the idea should be to promote the sports and get the best players playing. Helping to develop players straight out of 21s cant but be good!!
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 9, 2015 0:52:25 GMT
Are ye being serious when ye say clubs shouldn't play there Kerry juniors next weekend in a vital round of county league games because they playing in a third rate competition in thurles which has zero relevance to Kerry senior squad Last year in the league Kerry used 29 players. Out of those 29, 9 players had previously played with the Kerry Junior team. When you consider how many of the 29 players would have been ineligible because of the clubs they came from, it's clear that the Junior team is a significant help in the development of players for the senior team. Also in this year's league Thomas Hickey and Phillip O'Connor came off the bench and Shane Murphy was sub keeper when Kelly was out injured for a game. All three of those played in all the junior games last summer. Given it's only in the last year or two that one of the goals of the Junior team has been explicitly stated as being a development path to the senior team, so odds are that percentage is likely to increase in a few years.
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Post by keepitsimple on Jun 10, 2015 20:57:30 GMT
I have huge sympathy for the Kerry juniors management. The concept seems to be treated with contempt by the county fixtures committee so I would ask the question: why are Kerry still entering this competition? Even though it is wrong, it is what it is , so I think that there should no argument, players should and must always put their clubs first, and if they are capable of playing with the county the next day then so be it
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 10, 2015 22:59:40 GMT
Asking up-and-coming intercounty players to play two matches in two days is amateur hour.
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