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Post by givehimaball on Apr 24, 2015 8:17:45 GMT
Anyone know how stacks are fixed for the weekend? Full team, etc? I can see a Crokes victory by about 5-8 points and a Stacks win by 3-5 The Killarney derby will be interesting all the same if a few feathers are ruffled. Been a fair amount of banter round Killarney town the last few days. Should be a decent encounter.
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Post by buck02 on Apr 24, 2015 10:36:38 GMT
Stacks should have too much for Ardfert seen as the latter were lucky to get past Laune Rangers.
Crokes to get revenge for last Julys result against Legion.
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Post by yellowbelly on Apr 25, 2015 20:59:17 GMT
Easy for Stacks tonight, played with real confidence and a swagger in the first half against the wind and led 2-11 to 1-04 at the break. Ardfert showed some character to come back and won the 2nd half but Stacks won comfortably despite being down to 14 men for most of the 2nd half on score of 2-17 to 1-11
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 25, 2015 21:07:45 GMT
Who was sent off?
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Post by yellowbelly on Apr 25, 2015 21:09:00 GMT
Shane Carroll, 2nd yellow so doesn't really matter. Had been playing really well up to that
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 12:03:41 GMT
Stacks had too much pace for Ardfert,in the first half Ardfert couldnt handle the support play that the Stacks had,whenever a player had the ball there was always one or two running off him,
David Mannix,Pa McCarthy and Shane Carroll were flying for the Stacks,Daniel Collins,Darren Dineen and John Egan who seemed to be double marked at times were best for Ardfert
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 26, 2015 13:27:26 GMT
Easy for Stacks tonight, played with real confidence and a swagger in the first half against the wind and led 2-11 to 1-04 at the break. Ardfert showed some character to come back and won the 2nd half but Stacks won comfortably despite being down to 14 men for most of the 2nd half on score of 2-17 to 1-11 Stacks were obviously right so in their use of their preparation time while preparing for the All-Ireland club semi final.
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Post by buck02 on Apr 26, 2015 18:38:15 GMT
The ref in the Lewis Road tried his best to be the main talking point but luckily both teams played some good football and werent prepared to give an inch to each other. Looney, Brady & Leary, while out of the game for long spells, were dangerous when they got the ball and managed 7 points from play between them. Legion struggled to get points from play outside of Conor Keane. Of the Kerry players James O got 1-1, Gooch 4 points from frees (and was maybe lucky to escape with only a yellow card in the 1st half) and Johnny Buckley 2 from play. Fionn Fitz was injured and didnt play. Brian Kelly dropped one high ball that led to a point. Podge O Connor did well and Jonathan Lyne got a straight red early in the 2nd half to the bemusement of everybody there. A Crokes player should have walked soon after but the ref decided just to give a free instead.
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Post by pillar on Apr 26, 2015 19:53:27 GMT
The referee erred when only giving Gooch yellow in the first half for a blatant red card offence. Going by the letter of the law he was within his rights to send off Jonathan Lyne but he chose to ignore the same offence on a couple of occasions afterwards.
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Post by Premier on Apr 26, 2015 21:46:49 GMT
The referee erred when only giving Gooch yellow in the first half for a blatant red card offence. Going by the letter of the law he was within his rights to send off Jonathan Lyne but he chose to ignore the same offence on a couple of occasions afterwards. Was it for dissent?
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Post by pillar on Apr 26, 2015 21:49:12 GMT
My info is that it was for bad language towards an official.Something that happened afterwards and went unpunished
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Post by Premier on Apr 26, 2015 21:59:41 GMT
My info is that it was for bad language towards an official.Something that happened afterwards and went unpunished I thought that was brought in as a black card offence
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 26, 2015 22:02:22 GMT
Nothing like a town derby game to bring out the competitive instincts in players.
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Post by pillar on Apr 26, 2015 22:02:33 GMT
Correct
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 26, 2015 22:04:00 GMT
My info is that it was for bad language towards an official.Something that happened afterwards and went unpunished I thought that was brought in as a black card offence It is. The Crossmaglen ref seemed to have a different interpretation of the black card today in the League Final!
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Post by yellowbelly on Apr 26, 2015 22:44:12 GMT
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards) 1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head. 2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury. 3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent. 4. Spitting at an opponent. 5. Contributing to a melee. 6. Stamping. 7. Inflicting injury recklessly. 8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official. Back Card offence is "Remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official." www.gaa.ie/about-the-gaa/rules-and-regulations/
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Post by pillar on Apr 26, 2015 22:48:21 GMT
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards) 1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head. 2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury. 3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent. 4. Spitting at an opponent. 5. Contributing to a melee. 6. Stamping. 7. Inflicting injury recklessly. 8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official. Back Card offence is "Remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official." www.gaa.ie/about-the-gaa/rules-and-regulations/
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Post by pillar on Apr 26, 2015 22:49:57 GMT
Yes under the letter of the law it was a correct decision.Looking at the other red card offences ref definitely failed on 2 other occasions.
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Post by sullyschoice on Apr 26, 2015 22:51:22 GMT
Scores from. Each game please, for those of us not residing in Weeshie range
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 27, 2015 7:54:16 GMT
Anyone know how stacks are fixed for the weekend? Full team, etc? All the talk is about whether or not Stacks will clap the All Ireland Champions onto the field Nice touch from Stacks clapping Ardfert onto the pitch. And there were no handbags either Buck... not even a oul fake prada one.
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Post by hugh20 on Apr 27, 2015 8:03:58 GMT
The ref in the Lewis Road tried his best to be the main talking point but luckily both teams played some good football and werent prepared to give an inch to each other. Looney, Brady & Leary, while out of the game for long spells, were dangerous when they got the ball and managed 7 points from play between them. Legion struggled to get points from play outside of Conor Keane. Of the Kerry players James O got 1-1, Gooch 4 points from frees (and was maybe lucky to escape with only a yellow card in the 1st half) and Johnny Buckley 2 from play. Fionn Fitz was injured and didnt play. Brian Kelly dropped one high ball that led to a point. Podge O Connor did well and Jonathan Lyne got a straight red early in the 2nd half to the bemusement of everybody there. A Crokes player should have walked soon after but the ref decided just to give a free instead. Would totally disagree here. Gooch shouldered Conor Keane off the ball and Conor Keane fell to the ground. A yellow card, hardly a red!! What Crokes player should have walked soon after? I thought the referee was very poor in general, Jonathan Lyne can count himself very unlucky as I had always thought that was a black card offence. Fair enough that the referee is within his rights to send the player off however he should enforce this throughout the game so and this did not happen. From a Kerry perspective Kieran O Leary, Podge Connor and Johnny Buckley all did well. John Payne did a very good job on James and other than the goal James got he had a quiet game. Conor Keane had a good first half but they struggled to get him the ball in the second half. Brian Kelly was indecisive. Gooch was quiet. Daithi Casey received a black card late in the second half and he also had a quiet game. He took off on a couple of his trademark runs but he seemed to have an off day kicking, dropping at least 3 balls into Kelly's hands. Prior to Jonathan Lyne's red card he had been having a decent game. Didn't really think Looney and Brady were dangerous when they got the ball as you have mentioned. Brady was terrible in the first half and blocked down twice while also struggling to get in front and win his own ball, he was a bit better in second half and was set up for two tap over scores. Looney got a good point in the first half but otherwise it was one of his poorer games in the black and amber. Eoin Brosnan did well in terms of winning primary possession but his kick passing was awful and he gifted the ball back to Legion on 5 occasions at least. Ambrose O Donovan got an early yellow card which affected his hard hitting style of game. Danny Sheahan had a god game on Chris Brady. Jordan Kiely looked lively when he came on and won a crucial free that he had no right to win after contesting in the air with B Kelly. Jamie Doolan also looked lively and won a great ball to set up the insurance score. There is little between both sides at the moment but Crokes remain the better team, largely due to their strength in depth. Shane Doolan, Tony Brosnan and Gavin O' Shea did not feature, which indicates the strength of the Crokes bench. Rewind back to the All Ireland club semi finals that Crokes have lost in the last 5 years and their bench has been a particular weakness. 8 of the Crokes bench yesterday played intercounty at minor or U21 level, that is remarkable.
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Post by pillar on Apr 27, 2015 8:18:13 GMT
It was a shoulder into the chest when play had stopped..I have the utmost respect for Gooch and it was out of character.Maybe for that fact the ref only gave yellow.But if Paul G did that in Pairc Ui Chaoimh he'd be having an early shower
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Post by buck02 on Apr 27, 2015 8:38:59 GMT
The ref in the Lewis Road tried his best to be the main talking point but luckily both teams played some good football and werent prepared to give an inch to each other. Looney, Brady & Leary, while out of the game for long spells, were dangerous when they got the ball and managed 7 points from play between them. Legion struggled to get points from play outside of Conor Keane. Of the Kerry players James O got 1-1, Gooch 4 points from frees (and was maybe lucky to escape with only a yellow card in the 1st half) and Johnny Buckley 2 from play. Fionn Fitz was injured and didnt play. Brian Kelly dropped one high ball that led to a point. Podge O Connor did well and Jonathan Lyne got a straight red early in the 2nd half to the bemusement of everybody there. A Crokes player should have walked soon after but the ref decided just to give a free instead. Would totally disagree here. Gooch shouldered Conor Keane off the ball and Conor Keane fell to the ground. A yellow card, hardly a red!! What Crokes player should have walked soon after? I thought the referee was very poor in general, Jonathan Lyne can count himself very unlucky as I had always thought that was a black card offence. Fair enough that the referee is within his rights to send the player off however he should enforce this throughout the game so and this did not happen. From a Kerry perspective Kieran O Leary, Podge Connor and Johnny Buckley all did well. John Payne did a very good job on James and other than the goal James got he had a quiet game. Conor Keane had a good first half but they struggled to get him the ball in the second half. Brian Kelly was indecisive. Gooch was quiet. Daithi Casey received a black card late in the second half and he also had a quiet game. He took off on a couple of his trademark runs but he seemed to have an off day kicking, dropping at least 3 balls into Kelly's hands. Prior to Jonathan Lyne's red card he had been having a decent game. Didn't really think Looney and Brady were dangerous when they got the ball as you have mentioned. Brady was terrible in the first half and blocked down twice while also struggling to get in front and win his own ball, he was a bit better in second half and was set up for two tap over scores. Looney got a good point in the first half but otherwise it was one of his poorer games in the black and amber. Eoin Brosnan did well in terms of winning primary possession but his kick passing was awful and he gifted the ball back to Legion on 5 occasions at least. Ambrose O Donovan got an early yellow card which affected his hard hitting style of game. Danny Sheahan had a god game on Chris Brady. Jordan Kiely looked lively when he came on and won a crucial free that he had no right to win after contesting in the air with B Kelly. Jamie Doolan also looked lively and won a great ball to set up the insurance score. There is little between both sides at the moment but Crokes remain the better team, largely due to their strength in depth. Shane Doolan, Tony Brosnan and Gavin O' Shea did not feature, which indicates the strength of the Crokes bench. Rewind back to the All Ireland club semi finals that Crokes have lost in the last 5 years and their bench has been a particular weakness. 8 of the Crokes bench yesterday played intercounty at minor or U21 level, that is remarkable. There was a clear elbow thrown into the jaw of a Legion forward that the ref saw but chose to ignore. It looked to me like Buddy Leary that was the guilty party. Before Lyne got sent off he was clearly pushed in the back going down for a ball on his own line but the ref gave no free. Maybe because he wouldn't be able to give a big signal as to why he gave the free like he usually does. You're probably correct about Brady and Looney but Brady got 2 points in 2 minutes in the 2nd half and I thought he was very isolated in the 1st half. I think Looney had 2 shots and kicked 2 points. What is your opinion of Alan O Sullivan at centre back, is this something that Crokes will persist with this year?
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Post by hugh20 on Apr 27, 2015 8:58:21 GMT
Would totally disagree here. Gooch shouldered Conor Keane off the ball and Conor Keane fell to the ground. A yellow card, hardly a red!! What Crokes player should have walked soon after? I thought the referee was very poor in general, Jonathan Lyne can count himself very unlucky as I had always thought that was a black card offence. Fair enough that the referee is within his rights to send the player off however he should enforce this throughout the game so and this did not happen. From a Kerry perspective Kieran O Leary, Podge Connor and Johnny Buckley all did well. John Payne did a very good job on James and other than the goal James got he had a quiet game. Conor Keane had a good first half but they struggled to get him the ball in the second half. Brian Kelly was indecisive. Gooch was quiet. Daithi Casey received a black card late in the second half and he also had a quiet game. He took off on a couple of his trademark runs but he seemed to have an off day kicking, dropping at least 3 balls into Kelly's hands. Prior to Jonathan Lyne's red card he had been having a decent game. Didn't really think Looney and Brady were dangerous when they got the ball as you have mentioned. Brady was terrible in the first half and blocked down twice while also struggling to get in front and win his own ball, he was a bit better in second half and was set up for two tap over scores. Looney got a good point in the first half but otherwise it was one of his poorer games in the black and amber. Eoin Brosnan did well in terms of winning primary possession but his kick passing was awful and he gifted the ball back to Legion on 5 occasions at least. Ambrose O Donovan got an early yellow card which affected his hard hitting style of game. Danny Sheahan had a god game on Chris Brady. Jordan Kiely looked lively when he came on and won a crucial free that he had no right to win after contesting in the air with B Kelly. Jamie Doolan also looked lively and won a great ball to set up the insurance score. There is little between both sides at the moment but Crokes remain the better team, largely due to their strength in depth. Shane Doolan, Tony Brosnan and Gavin O' Shea did not feature, which indicates the strength of the Crokes bench. Rewind back to the All Ireland club semi finals that Crokes have lost in the last 5 years and their bench has been a particular weakness. 8 of the Crokes bench yesterday played intercounty at minor or U21 level, that is remarkable. There was a clear elbow thrown into the jaw of a Legion forward that the ref saw but chose to ignore. It looked to me like Buddy Leary that was the guilty party. Before Lyne got sent off he was clearly pushed in the back going down for a ball on his own line but the ref gave no free. Maybe because he wouldn't be able to give a big signal as to why he gave the free like he usually does. You're probably correct about Brady and Looney but Brady got 2 points in 2 minutes in the 2nd half and I thought he was very isolated in the 1st half. I think Looney had 2 shots and kicked 2 points. What is your opinion of Alan O Sullivan at centre back, is this something that Crokes will persist with this year? Ya I cant comment on Buddy Leary incident as I didn't see it but it wouldn't surprise me because he is a player who can get caught up in the heat of the moment especially in such a rivalry. Looney had a skewed effort in first half and also kicked a wide 30 seconds before he was subbed, so 4 efforts and 2 scores, but normally he is very accurate to be fair to him. There is no doubting that Brady is dangerous when he gets the ball, arguably Crokes most dangerous forward but he was having an off game and both his scores were pretty straightforward and I believe he should have been subbed at half time. On Alan O' Sullivan positioned at centre half back, it seems like the management just got a brain wave of a big lad to hold the centre and personally I would like to see a change in this position. Alan O Sullivan is a good footballer and I think I remember him playing in this position at either minor or under 21 level but I think it was only a brief period. However, I don't believe this is his best position or that it will benefit Crokes in the bigger games, but yes I do think the management will persist with it.
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Post by glengael on Apr 27, 2015 8:59:01 GMT
Dr. Crokes 0-17 vs 1-10 Legion. For those who may not have got the final score.
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Post by buck02 on Apr 27, 2015 9:48:58 GMT
Dr. Crokes 0-17 vs 1-10 Legion. For those who may not have got the final score. Not difficult to find really for those not residing in Weeshie range www.kerrygaa.ie/latestResults
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 27, 2015 22:18:10 GMT
Kieran Donaghy didn't feature against Ardfert, the reason being that he had a tooth infection , so I am told anyway.
It meant that Stacks didnt lamp long balls into the square but built from the back in impressive fashion. Stacks are clearly up for the challenge of climbimg the mountain again and there is no denying that there is a good togetherness and team spirit there and they will take beating. That said, none of their backs could make any hand of John Egan who was clearly the best forward on view and at times he got the better of two markers. Stacks have put the disappointment of losing to what transpired to be a very poor Slaughneill side behind them and as yellowbelly said, the ould swagger is back.
On the other hand, Ardfert look like they have overdone the celebrating. David Griffen who was playing out of his skin and MOTM in the final in Croke Park was substituted. They started Eoghain and Iarla Courtney, two teenagers, both good prospects and this experience will do them no harm. (Their cousin Billy is the Kerry minor goalie). Brandon Barrett, who came as a sub for the Kerry minors in the last game was brought on as a second half sub and impressed. Jack O'Connor has good time for him by all accounts.
Ardfert best forward on their All Ireland success was Darren Wallace but he has not emigrated to Canada... not an excuse, all clubs have that.
I felt that Greg Horans loss of form was the main reason Stacks lost to Slaughneill but Greg is playing well again and when he plays well, Stacks play well, it seems to me.
Shane OCallaghan is aware of everything and everyone around him when in possession and is another with a great future I feel. Stacks back line looked vulnerable.
John Egan was unmarkable.
Apparently, the last time Stacks played a competitive match in Ardfert was in the glory days of Mikey Sheehy and they got beaten by Churchill. So I was told anyway by one of their stalwarts. Ardfert didn't have a football team at that time.
Shane Carroll was playing well too but got a second yellow for something harmless enough.
The game was expertly refer by Padraig OSullivan.
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Post by A.N. Other on Apr 27, 2015 23:27:25 GMT
Theres a gang of the Rock players off to Boston this week and another gang the week after first round of the championship so I'm told.
Think the Wallace you are refering to thats gone to Canada, is Damien, not Darren. Darren played the last night. It was a poor enough game, Stacks were too strong for Ardfert and ran straight through them in the narrow pitch. Was very impressed with young Barrett when he came on, took the game to the Stacks defenders. Martin Ferris was also introduced and caused a bitta trouble for the Stacks full backline.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 10:25:26 GMT
Crokes have a solid panel this year add to that the Mike Burns Fionn Fitzgerald and Andrew Kennelly were missing the last day . 1 Alan Kelly 2 John Payne 3 Mike Moloney 4 Luke Quinn 5 David O'Leary 6 Alan O'Sullivan 7 Aaron Murphy 8 Eoin Brosnan 9 John Buckley 10 Ambrose O'Donovan 11 Daithi Casey 12 Brian Looney 13 Colm Cooper 14 Chris Brady 15 Kieran O'Leary . Bench Johnny O'Leary (Sub Keeper) Jamie Doolan , Jordan Kiely , Mike Milner , Shane Doolan , Gavin O'Shea , Tony Brosnan , Cillian Fitzgerald , Jason Lyne , and young Cillian O'Regan (from last years minor team) . Didn't see Shane Myers there either don't know what the deal is with him .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 15:56:16 GMT
Kieran Donaghy didn't feature against Ardfert, the reason being that he had a tooth infection , so I am told anyway. It meant that Stacks didnt lamp long balls into the square but built from the back in impressive fashion. Stacks are clearly up for the challenge of climbimg the mountain again and there is no denying that there is a good togetherness and team spirit there and they will take beating. That said, none of their backs could make any hand of John Egan who was clearly the best forward on view and at times he got the better of two markers. Stacks have put the disappointment of losing to what transpired to be a very poor Slaughneill side behind them and as yellowbelly said, the ould swagger is back. On the other hand, Ardfert look like they have overdone the celebrating. David Griffen who was playing out of his skin and MOTM in the final in Croke Park was substituted. They started Eoghain and Iarla Courtney, two teenagers, both good prospects and this experience will do them no harm. (Their cousin Billy is the Kerry minor goalie). Brandon Barrett, who came as a sub for the Kerry minors in the last game was brought on as a second half sub and impressed. Jack O'Connor has good time for him by all accounts. Ardfert best forward on their All Ireland success was Darren Wallace but he has not emigrated to Canada... not an excuse, all clubs have that. I felt that Greg Horans loss of form was the main reason Stacks lost to Slaughneill but Greg is playing well again and when he plays well, Stacks play well, it seems to me. Shane OCallaghan is aware of everything and everyone around him when in possession and is another with a great future I feel. Stacks back line looked vulnerable. John Egan was unmarkable. Apparently, the last time Stacks played a competitive match in Ardfert was in the glory days of Mikey Sheehy and they got beaten by Churchill. So I was told anyway by one of their stalwarts. Ardfert didn't have a football team at that time. Shane Carroll was playing well too but got a second yellow for something harmless enough. The game was expertly refer by Padraig OSullivan. Fairly certain Ardfert and The Stacks played in Ardfert in the county league the year Ardfert got relegated,Stacks won well that day John Egan did give them a hard time of it last Saturday,unlucky not to get a goal in the first half just striking the post, It would make you wonder how the Stacks defence would get on against a forward line and the talent the Crokes have when you see one forward causing them so many problems like Egan did thats if both Stacks and Crokes end up in the final of the Club Championship.
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