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Post by Mickmack on Feb 8, 2015 0:02:34 GMT
Paul Durcan did it again tonight. Donegal two points up after two minutes. Dublin kick a wide. Durcan puts down the ball for the kickout and miscues it to McManamon 21 yards out. Two passes later and its a goal. Durcan gets concussed trying to make the save when his own man runs into him. He is substituted.
This was a niggly game that Dublin won thanks to scoring two goals while Donegal didn't score a goal. Ciaran Kilkenny is back and scored a good point. I think there was 5 points in it at the end but it was closer than that and it had plenty of intensity.
Meath beat Kildare by a point but I didn't see much of that.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 8, 2015 0:12:55 GMT
Kildare are going nowhere....fast.
Durban's kickouts are often very very short not ven crossing the 45 line and smart teams target them. Dublin learned from it and got another goal as a return. Twas a very scruffy hard game though and Donegal were lucky Dublin got Mcmenamon sent off and they finished with 15. McBrearty is quickly becoming the key man for Donegal as Murphy is targeted by every team Donegal have to play. Tis very good for kerry though if they win tomorrow as they can then go into the Dublin game knowing that winning means a very good possibility if staying in division 1. Tyrone need a result tomorrow but I doubt they'll get it.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 8, 2015 0:30:52 GMT
And Meath just a little slower!
The country is full of keepers having Durcan moments at every level of the club game. Time to legislate that the restart must travel beyond the forty five.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Feb 8, 2015 2:31:54 GMT
And Meath just a little slower! The country is full of keepers having Durcan moments at every level of the club game. Time to legislate that the restart must travel beyond the forty five. What if you're kicking into a hurricane?
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Post by ansúilleabhánach on Feb 8, 2015 10:45:58 GMT
The Breffni did well, and a smashing result for the sheepstealers. Another win each and they'll be staying put. Looks very likely
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Post by ansúilleabhánach on Feb 8, 2015 11:03:13 GMT
Paul Durcan did it again tonight. Did I read somewhere that he did the same last weekend v Doire, but the chance was blazed over?
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Post by donegalman on Feb 8, 2015 12:23:42 GMT
I was at the game last night in croke park, and for a game in Feb, it was fairly intense. There were verbals going on all over the pitch off the ball for most of the first half, and half of the 2nd. Dublin won handily. They look very dangerous, even already. Their defense is now as mean as there is out there. We tried very hard to penetrate but our very best players, murphy and mcb, couldnt find any space to get a shot away. Lots of criticism for the ref last night, but I feel it was a fairly impossible game to ref properly. Almost every tackle was borderline, and players were constantly crashing into each other when gaining or trying to gain possession. McCaffrey was very very good indeed when he came on.
The one gap in dublins game, remains their mid field. Their keeper was looking for the short option for a lot of the 1st half, and I found this strange to see from the dubs.
You cant judge much from a game this early in the year, other than gauge how much work has to be done. We will not get relegated, but we have some tough games to play that is for certain.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Feb 8, 2015 14:44:16 GMT
That game was there for the taking, Donegalman. You's missed a lot of kickable scores. I thought the 5 point win flattered Dublin.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 8, 2015 15:29:02 GMT
Mayo kick some amount of wides. They must have nearly 20 today.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 8, 2015 15:33:27 GMT
Tyrone up to their old tricks off the ball and generally being detestable- weakness of the refs allows them to constantly get away with it
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 8, 2015 15:45:04 GMT
Tyrone up to their old tricks off the ball and generally being detestable- weakness of the refs allows them to constantly get away with it I didn't want to say it in fear of being branded anti-Tyrone, but I noticed the same. The amount of times when they ran into tackles throwing an arm back to shake off their tacklers was uncountable. In my opinion that is an attempt to strike and it gives the tackler no chance at all. Referees let them get away with all their antics though.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 8, 2015 15:50:40 GMT
Cork playing lovely football the moment and have a wealth of talent. Same as last year really. Are they peaking too early in the year?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 8, 2015 15:53:02 GMT
Tyrone up to their old tricks off the ball and generally being detestable- weakness of the refs allows them to constantly get away with it I didn't want to say it in fear of being branded anti-Tyrone, but I noticed the same. The amount of times when they ran into tackles throwing an arm back to shake off their tacklers was uncountable. In my opinion that is an attempt to strike and it gives the tackler no chance at all. Referees let them get away with all their antics though. Just watch all the off the ball * on cillian o Connor! From previous posts you can tell that I'm prob more anti-Mayo than any countu but jeez the ref let tyrone away with a good bit. Before this gets misconstrued- it's not anti- tyrone as I admire their ability to do what it takes to win- it's more anti the crap standard of refs
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 8, 2015 16:03:38 GMT
I am not a big of fan of the "whatever it takes to win" attitude. I like to see skilful, clean games. Mayo are very physical, but still not that ruthless streak. I am not anti Mayo at all. I think they play lovely football most of the time and their supporters are generally quite nice. Not the Cormac Reilly whiners of course, but that is a small minority. A lot of nice Tyrone supporters too, passionate about football, but also a lot of very bitter people. I don't want to take the physicality out of the game, but I don't like this sneaky stuff. If you want to hit a guy do it out in the open and expect a belt back. Nowadays it is just as much about the mouth as it is about the footballing skills though. The amount of foul language being uttered during games is unreal. I do agree though that referees should be more ruthless and send people off for that sort of behaviour.
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Post by wideball on Feb 8, 2015 16:11:00 GMT
Really dislike the way Tyrone play. Horrible to watch the game between themselves and Mayo today. Great point about the refs weaknesses to deal with their 'tactics', Tyrone will continue to play on the edge
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Post by Jigz84 on Feb 9, 2015 10:43:41 GMT
Ludicrous comments here on Tyrone's style of play yesterday. I didn't see them do anything that any of the other top sides don't do already, i.e. hunted in packs, counter attacked and kicked some beauties. Should've won by alot more only for a blatant square ball not being called on Cillian O'Connor's goal.
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Post by Dermot on Feb 9, 2015 12:44:37 GMT
Ludicrous comments here on Tyrone's style of play yesterday. I didn't see them do anything that any of the other top sides don't do already, i.e. hunted in packs, counter attacked and kicked some beauties. Should've won by alot more only for a blatant square ball not being called on Cillian O'Connor's goal. Fair play Jigz84 ... Someone talking a bit of sense thakfully !! .. It really is remarkable how blinkered some people can let themselves get !!! As for the game yesterday, it wasn't pretty but we "really" needed that win.
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Post by jackiel on Feb 9, 2015 12:50:05 GMT
Surprised not to see any comment about Maurice Deegan's performance on Saturday night. He made some strange decisions and didn't seem to have any control over the match when things got tense. He played a full minute on top of stoppage time at end of the first half, it was as if he wanted Donegal to catch up before he blew this whistle, which indeed they did.
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Post by seamo on Feb 9, 2015 13:06:58 GMT
Paul Durcan did it again tonight. Donegal two points up after two minutes. Dublin kick a wide. Durcan puts down the ball for the kickout and miscues it to McManamon 21 yards out. Two passes later and its a goal. Durcan gets concussed trying to make the save when his own man runs into him. He is substituted.
This was a niggly game that Dublin won thanks to scoring two goals while Donegal didn't score a goal. Ciaran Kilkenny is back and scored a good point. I think there was 5 points in it at the end but it was closer than that and it had plenty of intensity. Meath beat Kildare by a point but I didn't see much of that. Like a scene out of a Charlie Chaplin film!!!!
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Post by skybluezone on Feb 9, 2015 14:43:00 GMT
Surprised not to see any comment about Maurice Deegan's performance on Saturday night. He made some strange decisions and didn't seem to have any control over the match when things got tense. He played a full minute on top of stoppage time at end of the first half, it was as if he wanted Donegal to catch up before he blew this whistle, which indeed they did. went along on Saturday evening jackiel, Deegan was all over the place. Even the crowd were onto him re his extra extra time to allow Donegal an opportunity to score! Some intensity to it for a league game, very apparent that both of them were trying to lay down a marker, as the cliche goes. Whats with Michael Murphy, is he becoming the GAA's very own John Terry? Actively looking to debate every decision with Deegan, involved in numerous incidents himself, and started most of them. Was the same in the AI semi final, so it's definitely not a one off thing. Fabulous footballer but needs to reign it in a bit, he bullied the Dublin defenders, and we really had no one to give some back. Philly McMahon came on with 5 mins to go, and should have been sent off with 3 minutes to go. A liability, he's too ingrained in his habits to learn to behave at this stage. Gavin should axe him, it's not as if he's nailed down to start every week. Overall an enjoyable game, specially McCaffrey's goal, hell yeah!
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Post by keane on Feb 9, 2015 15:09:12 GMT
I heard someone else mention that McMahon should have been red carded but didn't see it from where I was sitting. What did he do this time?
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Post by jackiel on Feb 9, 2015 15:31:34 GMT
I was there myself skybluezone, the normally very cool, calm & collected Jim Gavin even went down to the sideline officials a couple of times to highlight what was going on. I hope they can bring a bit of consistency to the refereeing of matches,its so frustrating to watch when the ref is so totally clueless. That's 2 weeks in a row I've seen him and been baffled by some of his decisions.
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Post by skybluezone on Feb 9, 2015 15:57:31 GMT
I was there myself skybluezone, the normally very cool, calm & collected Jim Gavin even went down to the sideline officials a couple of times to highlight what was going on. I hope they can bring a bit of consistency to the refereeing of matches,its so frustrating to watch when the ref is so totally clueless. That's 2 weeks in a row I've seen him and been baffled by some of his decisions. Found it curious myself that Gavin was in the linesman's ear for a good portion of the game. In contrast to the zen like behaviour of the last two years. Could be that he feels he needs to be more proactive with officials in standing up for his team, especially when it's Donegal, who employ Maor Faoirne's and Maor Uisce's as onfield tactical messengers as well! Don't like to see managers interfering with officials in general, but I do feel Gavin has been too passive generally. O'Gara was getting the head boxed off him while James Horan in commentary was killed with worrying why Dublin were "targetting" Michael Murphy. Keane, McMahon tried to clothes line McFadden, for want of a better description. Only hit him a glancing blow but not acceptable from Philly. Don't think he'll ever learn. The mad thing is that Gavin is a stickler for discipline.
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Post by keane on Feb 9, 2015 16:31:43 GMT
Yeah I like him as a player but he's some scut.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 9, 2015 18:36:07 GMT
The Allianz League is well and truly up and running following the second round of fixtures at the weekend. Here, Independent.ie's Michael Verney picks his team of the weekend.
1. Ken O'Halloran (Cork)
The Rebel goalkeeper showed all the skills in his repertoire with excellent tactical kicking as well as some fine saves in their narrow win over Monaghan.
2. Alan Byrne (Wicklow)
When everything was going wrong around him, Byrne was a sea of calm for the Garden county and played a crucial role in their extraordinary comback win against Leitrim.
3. Paul McConway (Offaly)
The Offaly skipper was outstanding for the second week in a row as the miserly Faithful defence coughed up only 1-4 against an in-form Waterford side.
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4. Cathal McCarron (Tyrone)
The Red Hand defender put on a clinical display at corner-back combining ferocious tackling with efficient counterattacking play as Tyrone downed Mayo.
5. Damien O'Reilly (Cavan)
O'Reilly typified the attacking half-backs of this generation bombing forward to kick two scores as Cavan powered past Laois in O'Moore Park.
6. Peter Acheson (Tipperary)
Limerick were held scoreless for the entire first-half with Acheson dominant at centre-back. The Moyle Rovers club man also foraged up the field to kick two points as the Peter Creedon's side coasted to victory.
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7. Jack McCaffrey (Dublin)
Despite only entering the fray in the 48th minute, McCaffrey's contribution was telling and his electrifying goal turned the tables in favour of Jim Gavin's side.
8. Mark Collins (Cork)
Collins was the dominant midfielder on display and set up Colm O'Neill's key second-half goal as the Rebels edged Monaghan in St Mary's Park, Castleblayney.
9. David Moran (Kerry)
Last year's All Star midfielder continued where he left off in the All-Ireland final with a dominant display of fielding as himself and Johnny Buckley controlled the aerial duel against Derry.
10. Dean Rock (Dublin)
The Ballymun forward was impeccable from placed balls maintaining a narrow advantage for his side throughout before eventually pulling away and exacting revenge for their All-Ireland semi-final defeat to Donegal.
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11. Bryan Sheehan (Kerry)
Sheehan once again displayed his sheer class from placed balls stroking over points from a variety of distances and angles as the Kingdom bested Derry in Celtic Park.
12. Andrew Tormey (Meath)
The Royal half-forward was the 'go to' man kicking four points as Meath powered to a Division 2 win over Leinster rivals Kildare.
13. Patrick Sweeney (Galway)
A great day for the Sweeney twins with Cathal solid at corner-back and Patrick scored a whopping 1-5 from open play and winning the crucial penalty in the Tribesmen's one point victory over Westmeath.
14. Paul Geaney (Kerry)
The Dingle attacker was to the fore notching an impressive 1-5 from play as Kerry got their opening league points of the season.
15. Colm O'Neill (Cork)
Despite being well marshalled by Monaghan's Ryan Wylie in the first-half, The Ballyclough predator exploded to life in the closing 35 minutes and his two goals were crucial as the Rebels maintained their unbeaten run in Division 1.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 9, 2015 20:30:53 GMT
I abhor and detest the Tyrone ploy of defending in numbers, blocking, covering and stopping the opposition from getting handy scores.
I love Kerrys ploy of defending in numbers, blocking, covering and stopping the opposition from getting handy scores.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 9, 2015 21:06:48 GMT
I abhor and detest the Tyrone ploy of defending in numbers, blocking, covering and stopping the opposition from getting handy scores. I love Kerrys ploy of defending in numbers, blocking, covering and stopping the opposition from getting handy scores. Mick you're missing the point- its not the style of play, its all the niggly, petty attempts to antagonize lads off the ball. Why did the keeper rugby tackle Cillian o Connor to the ground when the ball was already in the net, hold him down and then try to trip him up as he was gettin up? It's done to antagonize- its done to try get a reaction, refs should be wise to this but they allow the petulance to persist.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 9, 2015 21:15:01 GMT
And the foul mouthing too. Some players make a habit of uttering insults all game long trying to provoke a reaction.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 9, 2015 23:38:29 GMT
Listen if Tyrone are generally at that stuff then they are no threat to us so leave them off.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 10, 2015 6:10:36 GMT
Listen if Tyrone are generally at that stuff then they are no threat to us so leave them off. Maybes yes and maybes no but it still is infuriating to watch and what makes it more so is the general helplessness of the officials- who just use the most idiotic bit of logic in probably any sport- the double yellow card. A lad wrestles you to the ground and you try push him off, etc- double yellow card is the result, its just a cop-out by refs who are afraid to offend 1 side or the other
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