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Post by southward on Feb 2, 2015 18:28:12 GMT
Anyone else think the pitch looked really terrible yesterday ? Even allowing for the time of year.
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 2, 2015 19:09:41 GMT
Any word on tommy walsh
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Post by keane on Feb 2, 2015 19:11:07 GMT
Dead leg according to Fitzmaurice
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 2, 2015 19:14:48 GMT
Will he recover for Sunday? Certainly a better option than Sheehan who looked well off the pace and kicked a ball into tge goalies hands
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Post by givehimaball on Feb 2, 2015 20:38:55 GMT
Will he recover for Sunday? Certainly a better option than Sheehan who looked well off the pace and kicked a ball into tge goalies hands From what Fitzmaurice said about the injury after I'd be very surprised if Walsh wasn't involved next weekend. Also sounds like both Young and Enright might be fit enough to be in contention, which I think would help the defence a fair bit.
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 2, 2015 20:48:39 GMT
Very true. It's a pity we hadn't an easier game than mayo to Start the league although there's no easy games in division 1
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Post by kot on Feb 3, 2015 13:12:57 GMT
Lads, was anybody else expecting a win? For gods sake, half the team out and they barely off the plane from South Africa against a team eager to impress a new manager.
Having said that, there are a few performances I would worry about obviously.
The ref Sunday was abysmal I thought, back to the days of a fella going up for a high catch and getting accosted by 4 fellas only for a free to be given for overcarrying.
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Post by Tadhgeen on Feb 3, 2015 13:41:39 GMT
westarebest please highlight in my post where I said that I thought any of the players played well, the exact words please! What I did write was naming some players that showed an eagerness to be involved in the play. Despite this being a performance below his own standards I saw Paul Murphy being ever willing to get involved although he was rounded too easily for the goal. Johnny Buckley and Jack Sherwood also got involved despite the latter being handicapped by a yellow card. David Moran had a fine game but it is difficult to name other players who were willing to get stuck in apart from those mentioned. Carrying the ball into contact has given us many problems before but it has been remedied and Kerry do have the muscle but there seemed to be a certain lethargy yesterday. I trust Eamonn to have the plan for the year already worked out. What is important is game time for those returning from injury and those that are in the 30. I thought Buckley played well enough, he caught some great ball and he won numerous turnovers. This view admittedely from watching on TV. We started very well and should have had more scores on the board after 10-15 mins. The goals were soft enough and came at good times for Mayo. Ultimately these goals were the difference between the sides.
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Post by blackisbad on Feb 4, 2015 9:57:56 GMT
I thought mikey geaney had a great game
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Post by fitz on Feb 4, 2015 10:53:28 GMT
I watched the first have closely last night and Mayo were well flattered to be up by 7 at the break. They dominated the last 10 mins but I thought Kerry shaded the first 25. A horror pass from Pa, a crazy back heel from Barry, woeful passes from Bryan and Kieran in good positions. Bryan was on a fair lot of ball just made some bad decisions and execution. Barry was definitely decent in first half. Freeman took his goal brilliantly. Mark's error was trying to tackle with his body behind his man so he was easily handed off. Had he stood up Freeman would have less options and wouldn't have cocked that left leg. Young Regan was I'd say two inches from breaking his neck, thanks be he is ok. Horrible fall.
Mayo are a fine team, hungry for any cup, we care about one cup. However relegation pressure comes with losing games as Vet highlighted and broken drum, we want to avoid that at all costs.
Mike Geaney looked like a hybrid of Dec and Galvin, definitely added strength and looks explosive, just more smarts with the football to work on.
Second half tonight..
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Post by fitz on Feb 4, 2015 10:54:24 GMT
Oops up by 6 not 7 at break. 1.7 0.4
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 4, 2015 19:26:37 GMT
Anyone else think the pitch looked really terrible yesterday ? Even allowing for the time of year. Yes. The ball didnt hop up too much.
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Post by fenit67 on Feb 4, 2015 20:42:09 GMT
I forgot to mention the pitch. Far too often players from both sides came a cropper trying to bounce the ball which led to a certain hesitancy. On the day we were a wireless and Mayo were stereo i.e we lacked a bit of power.
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Post by Jigz84 on Feb 5, 2015 16:46:43 GMT
I thought mikey geaney had a great game Best performer throughout for Kerry and kicked a beauty.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 5, 2015 21:39:20 GMT
I thought mikey geaney had a great game Best performer throughout for Kerry and kicked a beauty. Bringing a nice bit of aggression to his game.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 7, 2015 22:22:21 GMT
After that performance I needed a bit of reflection before I would like to comment and I have watched the game twice since. Kerry looked tired and, dare I say it, uninterested in winning it. Mayo on the other hand looked fit and determined. Though I heard and saw talk from Mayo supporters before and after the game of Cormac Reilly and revenge I found the Mayo supporters at the game most pleasant. I sincerely doubt revenge was on the minds of the Mayo players and management, but winning league medals surely has to be. This being by far the best Mayo team in a good while they have not produced the goods. Mayo have been in the top 4 for the last 5 years and could have won 2 All Irelands in that time. Last year was probably their best year ever and they could not beat Kerry, who arguably didn't have their best year. Mayo should have won in the semi final and surely had a chance in the reply, but they didn't. This year I think they are facing a Kerry team that is a better than last year, a Dublin team that has become even better and a Cork team team that has improved. Galway are improving year by year and will give them a run for their money in Connacht and probably even after that. So, to Mayo winning the League is a must. To Kerry it isn't and it has rarely been a must to win it. Winning the league is an indication things are fine but is no guarantee for championship form.
Eamon has experimented a lot in recent league campaigns and given youngsters a try. We have discovered a lot of young talent that way and with such a young squad it is clear why we need to continue doing this. Meanwhile Kerry's U21s are doing well so far, Kerry colleges are doing well, the minors are doing well, and so on. There are a lot of young Kerry players involved with their schools and colleges and underage teams so the talent is surely there. Players like Savage, Burns, Conor Keane and Cox are surely to get a bit of game time again though not all of them might play with the seniors (though I hope they will get their chances).
Last week Kerry had barely come back from their well deserved holiday and barely resumed training. They were always going to be less fit than Mayo and with Mayo intent on winning and winning well the game was always going to be tough. So Eamon went with a team of players he would like to test before the championship starts. Mayo went with the strongest team they could must bar a few injuries.
Thus the game started: it was cold and the ground looked mushy. I would expect the pitch to be frozen with a layer of melted sod on top that couldn't drain because of the frost. You could see when players fell that the ground was like stone in certain places even though it had a very mushy top layer. Mayo played a lot of their players in the FBD league and though they lost to Roscommon it meant they had 3 games under their belts before last Sunday's game. For most Kerry players this was their first game at this level this year.
So Kerry started with Kealy who had a reasonable enough game in my opinion despite his tendency to come forward a lot. Given that Kelly seems to get the nod currently it was time for him to shine and he certainly didn't disappoint me. He didn't impress but that was also made very hard that the fullback line had a bad day at the office. Pa Kilkenny showed intent and eagerness but too much in my opinion. If he would stick to his task and manmark the man he's supposed to mark he would do better. At the moment he just couldn't control his man at all and we have seen better performances from him. The same with Griffin; we were raving about him last year and since then he had some good and and performances. He was out of his depth and comfort zone last Sunday and I hope he learned from that. Bad day at he office, but he has had very good days as well. As it stands he is one of our best hopes for fullback for the future so should be tried and tested before people dismiss him. Sherwood did a lot better than people give him credit for here and had a very tough task on his hands. Given the quality of the Mayo forwards and their intent I think he did enough to earn another chance. Sherwood was moved to CHB, where he did well, and was dragged by Alan Freeman all over the pitch. Given the quality of the man he was supposed to mark he did well. Lyne, Fitzgerald and Murphy were solid as you would expect from the 3 after last year, but they have played so much better for Kerry. They weren't bad, but they compared to what they can do I think they let themselves down a bit last Sunday. Fionn played in the corner instead of his usual spot but I still would expect better of him to be honest. It would be harsh to blame any of the defenders for the loss though as they were always facing an uphill battle and I don't believe Kerry were played away. In fact, we did quite well and had we supplied better ball to the forwards might even have won.
Moran and Sheehan did well in midfield and Tommy Walsh only made midfield stronger. I was disappointed though with Sheehan not kicking well. He had an off day, but he looked fitter than usual after the winter stop so I think he was just not in the game rhythm yet like most of the players. We have to remind ourselves in my opinion that Mayo had been training a lot longer already and already played 3 games before this. Still, I think Moran did very well but that Sheehan's kicking was off. Tommy fielded a lot of ball when he came on but he didn't look match fit and got injured very soon after he came on. I don't know why he was then moved to full forward though he was clearly limping but maybe he convinced the men on the line that he was alright and didn't need to come off. He clearly wanted to do well so must have been very disappointed when he had to come off.
Geaney, O'Leary and Buckley did well though I thought Buckley looked tired from the word go. They kept kicking high balls to the full forward line though, even though they clearly weren't in a position to win any of those balls going in. Geaney had a very good match in my opinion, but this was overshadowed by the team performance. Moran was Kerry's man of the match in my opinion though as he had another very solid game.
O'Brien, Geaney and O'Leary started very well and were industrious all day but saw very little of the ball. Too often they were kicked high balls despite being surrounded by Mayo players. As veteran pointed out it was like Tyrone 2003 all over in that every time a Kerry fellow had the ball there were 3, 4 players around him just stifling any action. Buckley had a few instances where he opted to run into the traffic rather than around it, which was not the right option in my opinion. BJ Keane had a very good day at the office and is another contender for Kerry's man of the match. He too was moved around and was unlucky not to score more and unlucky not to get a goal. O'Leary meanwhile got on the ball a lot but opted constantly for the high ball to the full forwards. I'm a big fan of kick passing but this clearly wasn't a day and pitch for that sort of play. Though he won a lot of ball he too often had to give possession away or kicked it to a position where Mayo winning ball all day from the Kerry forwards.
O'Connor played well and has a lovely style but he is way too light at the moment. I think it is safe to say that we all noticed his legs and the fact that you'd feel for him every time he got tackled. I would hate it if with hours in the gym his natural ability would be stifled but he looked out of place in this game. I wish to see him given some more game time as he is obviously a very good player. Conor Keane was given a big nod after his great performances for the colleges so far this year and he got to sniff at what it is like to play in a senior championship match. He will surely feature a lot more this year so it was vital that he would get some game time. When he was introduced the game was already reduced to a training match for Kerry so it was no surprise that he didn't kick that much. It was good to see Brian McGuire back in action but like with Conor Keane I didn't see enough to rate him. Casey was brought on fairly late as well and I think this match was made for him. He is always fairly aggressive and has the physique to do well in games like these. Had he been introduced earlier I think we would have seen him shine. Alan Fitzgerald didn't play long enough in Sunday to be rated.
All in all, a good game at the office though the result would say otherwise. Judging by he fact that most Kerry supporters walked out of the stadium smiling I think that most wil agree that it is only a first round league match and that not too much should be thought about it. Kerry were sluggish, tired and lethargic, but were also just back in training versus a team on a mission with some competitive games under their belts already.
I expect us to do better tomorrow.
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Post by ansúilleabhánach on Feb 8, 2015 10:37:16 GMT
Players like Savage, Burns, Conor Keane and Cox are surely to get a bit of gamete again I know nutrition and player development has moved in leaps and bounds, but surely, when the era of eating embryos has dawned, we must say "No more!"? Couldn't resist, sorry...
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 8, 2015 11:58:14 GMT
I had to consult Wikipedia to get that one!!
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 8, 2015 12:53:01 GMT
Players like Savage, Burns, Conor Keane and Cox are surely to get a bit of gamete again I know nutrition and player development has moved in leaps and bounds, but surely, when the era of eating embryos has dawned, we must say "No more!"? Couldn't resist, sorry... You must have eaten a dictionary recently. And here I was thinking I got away with that little word joke. I write all week and sometimes spelling errors like that lead to wonderful mistakes. Even worse though is that some websites "auto-correct" written text without me asking them to do so. Just the other day I noticed Zebo becomes Zero and Keatley becomes Neatly. I usually turn the auto correct options off, but that does lead to mistakes like above. Or maybe it wasn't a mistake, but on purpose
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Post by fitz on Feb 10, 2015 0:07:25 GMT
Watched second half tonight, dirty petrol mulligan to be offered up. Awful last 20 mins, foot passing to forwards just shocking. Completely outplayed. Sherwood, Moran and John Buck a couple of honourable mentions. Tommy uncomfortable on ball, offloaded immediately. It will come, step by step. Mind-set is all powerful, Mayo were well up for this. Then they completely take their eye off Tyrone. Easy to get mixed in your messages this time of year.
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Post by ansúilleabhánach on Feb 10, 2015 11:06:46 GMT
I had to consult Wikipedia to get that one!! Education is wasted on the young, but now and then a smidgen resurfaces in old age
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 10, 2015 21:16:39 GMT
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