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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2014 23:24:52 GMT
Looking ahead to 2015 what new players in the County do ye think will be brought in for 2015 . Tommy Walsh and Colm Cooper of course will be there . Conor Keane from Legion is a guy I think has a big future . Fergal McNamara from Stacks would be a young back who might get a look . Gavin O'Grady from Glenbeigh/Glencar had a good year with the Juniors . Marcus Mangan , Shane O'Callaghan could also get a look . If Tommy Walsh does come back he would be another good man to have around Midfield . It will be interesting to see the first team for the League . 1 B.Kelly 2 P.Kilkenny 3 M.Griffin 4 F.McNamara 5 P.Murphy 6 P.Crowley 7 F.Fitzgerald 8 D.Moran 9 J.Buckley 10 S.O'Brien 11 B.Sheehan 12 J.Lyne 13 C.Cooper 14 T.Walsh 15 J.O'Donoghue . Would be a good start .
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Post by gaaaddiction on Sept 27, 2014 11:14:40 GMT
Looking ahead to 2015 what new players in the County do ye think will be brought in for 2015 . Tommy Walsh and Colm Cooper of course will be there . Conor Keane from Legion is a guy I think has a big future . Fergal McNamara from Stacks would be a young back who might get a look . Gavin O'Grady from Glenbeigh/Glencar had a good year with the Juniors . Marcus Mangan , Shane O'Callaghan could also get a look . If Tommy Walsh does come back he would be another good man to have around Midfield . It will be interesting to see the first team for the League . 1 B.Kelly 2 P.Kilkenny 3 M.Griffin 4 F.McNamara 5 P.Murphy 6 P.Crowley 7 F.Fitzgerald 8 D.Moran 9 J.Buckley 10 S.O'Brien 11 B.Sheehan 12 J.Lyne 13 C.Cooper 14 T.Walsh 15 J.O'Donoghue . Would be a good start . U seriously havnt got a clue do you? Maher and Donnacha Walsh and Killian Young? It has also been proved Johnny Buckley is not good enough to play at Midfield at County Level!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 27, 2014 11:40:43 GMT
Looking ahead to 2015 what new players in the County do ye think will be brought in for 2015 . Tommy Walsh and Colm Cooper of course will be there . Conor Keane from Legion is a guy I think has a big future . Fergal McNamara from Stacks would be a young back who might get a look . Gavin O'Grady from Glenbeigh/Glencar had a good year with the Juniors . Marcus Mangan , Shane O'Callaghan could also get a look . If Tommy Walsh does come back he would be another good man to have around Midfield . It will be interesting to see the first team for the League . 1 B.Kelly 2 P.Kilkenny 3 M.Griffin 4 F.McNamara 5 P.Murphy 6 P.Crowley 7 F.Fitzgerald 8 D.Moran 9 J.Buckley 10 S.O'Brien 11 B.Sheehan 12 J.Lyne 13 C.Cooper 14 T.Walsh 15 J.O'Donoghue . Would be a good start . U seriously havnt got a clue do you? Maher and Donnacha Walsh and Killian Young? It has also been proved Johnny Buckley is not good enough to play at Midfield at County Level! Maher and D Walsh - especially Maher - probably deserve a rest.
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Post by Premier on Sept 27, 2014 13:01:53 GMT
Looking ahead to 2015 what new players in the County do ye think will be brought in for 2015 . Tommy Walsh and Colm Cooper of course will be there . Conor Keane from Legion is a guy I think has a big future . Fergal McNamara from Stacks would be a young back who might get a look . Gavin O'Grady from Glenbeigh/Glencar had a good year with the Juniors . Marcus Mangan , Shane O'Callaghan could also get a look . If Tommy Walsh does come back he would be another good man to have around Midfield . It will be interesting to see the first team for the League . 1 B.Kelly 2 P.Kilkenny 3 M.Griffin 4 F.McNamara 5 P.Murphy 6 P.Crowley 7 F.Fitzgerald 8 D.Moran 9 J.Buckley 10 S.O'Brien 11 B.Sheehan 12 J.Lyne 13 C.Cooper 14 T.Walsh 15 J.O'Donoghue . Would be a good start . U seriously havnt got a clue do you? Maher and Donnacha Walsh and Killian Young? It has also been proved Johnny Buckley is not good enough to play at Midfield at County Level! He was picking a team for the first game of the league not next years All-Ireland! Have you ever heard of blooding the youth and giving the old guys a rest? Nacrocaigh is dam right
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Post by keane on Sept 27, 2014 14:08:37 GMT
Alan Fitzgerald any use? I've heard a few people say they rate him pretty high
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2014 14:54:59 GMT
Thanks Premier!! of course I was talking about the League and of course Annascaul you are right they need a rest . There is only one idiot on here who doesn't get it .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2014 18:22:04 GMT
I think what Eamonn and the boys should do is give as much players from the extended training panel this year a good run in the mcgrath cup etc. Conor Keane and Thomas Hickey, Shane O' Callaghan could be a full forward line. Alan Fitz,Paul O Donoghue any good? Paul Murphy, Jack Sherwood, Marcus Mangan could be a half back line.Marc Griffin Pa Kilkenny so many I could name that are coming through......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2014 19:29:09 GMT
I agree with that they should look at as many young players as they can
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Post by lár na páirce on Sept 27, 2014 20:32:52 GMT
McGrath Cup will be the first blooding ground for players in 2015,It's where Paul Murphy,Stephen O Brien & Barry John made a big claim this year.
Players who can expect to feature
Pa Kilkenny Mark Griffin Ferghal McNamara Jonathan Lyne Jack Sherwood Marcus Mangan Bryan Sheehan Paul O Donoghue Daithi Casey Alan Fitzgearld Darran O Sullivan Conor Cox Thomas Hickey
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Post by legendz on Sept 27, 2014 21:44:51 GMT
Fitz used the McGrath Cup and the league to full affect this year. I'm sure it'll be more of the same next year. For now, we winter well!
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Post by sullyschoice on Sept 27, 2014 22:26:19 GMT
I am looking forward to seeing more of Pa Kilkenny next year. I really liked what I saw earlier in the year from him
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2014 22:33:11 GMT
Im sure Eamon will be watching the County Championship also to find maybe one or two players .
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 28, 2014 16:01:20 GMT
Mc Grath Cup is complicated by third level teams having first call on players. Important Fitzgerald tries to blood some younger players - I know we have had a lack of u21 success but the lack of any u21 on this years senior team (panel also I think) is not good. Always positive to have a few younger guys pushing for places and ensure a balance to the squad.
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Post by seamo on Sept 28, 2014 18:39:22 GMT
Thanks Premier!! of course I was talking about the League and of course Annascaul you are right they need a rest . There is only one idiot on here who doesn't get it . To be fair, it takes an idiot to pick a team in September for a game next February!! But I do agree with the new names you have mentioned. Plenty of talent around the county as I've always said. McNamara, Mangan, Sherwood, O Grady etc if only one or 2 of them can break through along with the return of Colm, Pa Kilkenny progressing, and hopefully Tommy's return, then we'll be in a great position to compete again next year for the big one.
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Post by kerryexile on Sept 29, 2014 8:02:54 GMT
Not being in Kerry very often I don't get to see some of the fringe players. Was surprised not to see Jack Sherwood make an appearance this year - or did he get a few minutes in 1 game. He came on last year against Dublin which was a big substitution. There is a bit of a tradition for promising players spending a few seasons on the subs and then just fading away e.g. Paul O'Connor. Next year is important for Jack.
The league is for blooding players but I think it should also be used to bring continuity. Griffin should be given the fullback jersey for the full league. Let him build up an understanding with those around him and continue into the championship. I think Johnathan Lyne should be getting a bit of continuity too.
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Post by mandad on Sept 29, 2014 9:42:58 GMT
Kerry exile - Jack Sherwood had a very unlucky year with injuries and was unavailabe for selection most of the Championship. He only got back to fitness after the semi final and I suppose the panel was established at that stage. I expect he will get his opportunity during the league and has a lot to offer. Looking at it from his perspective he must be very frustrated by the last 12 months and it's testament to his mental fortitude.
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Post by homerj on Sept 29, 2014 13:17:26 GMT
Mc Grath Cup is complicated by third level teams having first call on players. Important Fitzgerald tries to blood some younger players - I know we have had a lack of u21 success but the lack of any u21 on this years senior team (panel also I think) is not good. Always positive to have a few younger guys pushing for places and ensure a balance to the squad. ya there appears to be a gap at the moment in terms of real quality from 19-22 at the moment and i dont see many players in there who are good enough to break into the 26 next season. i guess we can carry that for another year, but ideally we have 4 or 5 of those minors on extended panel next year and they are ready to be strong players off the bench in 2016, being first teamers in 2017. is Jack Savage doing anything in terms of playing good ball this season?
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 29, 2014 13:43:33 GMT
Not being in Kerry very often I don't get to see some of the fringe players. Was surprised not to see Jack Sherwood make an appearance this year - or did he get a few minutes in 1 game. He came on last year against Dublin which was a big substitution. There is a bit of a tradition for promising players spending a few seasons on the subs and then just fading away e.g. Paul O'Connor. Next year is important for Jack. The league is for blooding players but I think it should also be used to bring continuity. Griffin should be given the fullback jersey for the full league. Let him build up an understanding with those around him and continue into the championship. I think Johnathan Lyne should be getting a bit of continuity too. Thats a good point about players fading away. For all he did i also felt a downfall for Jack O Connor was bringing in younger players. A lot of fellas who would have been around the subs of that time were never really given much of a chance, lads who could be important players now. That doesnt seem to be the case now as we've seen plenty of lads given and taking their chances
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Post by rockie36 on Sept 29, 2014 14:10:03 GMT
Most guys ideas here are good...but don't be too quick to say that we have no players from ages 19-22. Kerry always have good quality players....it is thanks to Fitzy that he had the patience and the foresight to stick with of the guys who got hammered by Cork 3 years ago in Pairc Ui Rinn (U21). I think next year is about consolidating the panel...getting guys even stronger and keeping the squad tight with each other. Last year you had two guys Cox and Walsh who went to the US during the summer...I'm not saying that they would have made the breakthrough into the first 26 but sometimes it takes a huge sacrifice to hang around and wait your turn (Sherwood a good example). Kerry probably used the bones of 40/45 players all season....and for some of them...their time will come...for some others...they undoubtedly have the skill set but perhaps not the mindset. This is a young Kerry side....we don't need a new rush of young players in now....but we must make sure that the age group from 17 to 22 is trained to the same high standard and with the same dedication as the present senior panel. Playing Minor for Kerry shows that you have the football ability....playing senior for Kerry shows that you have the football ability aligned with the necessary dedication and self sacrifice that it takes. We are in a very strong position at the moment but we are not up there on our own......
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Post by gaaaddiction on Sept 29, 2014 15:29:05 GMT
Not being in Kerry very often I don't get to see some of the fringe players. Was surprised not to see Jack Sherwood make an appearance this year - or did he get a few minutes in 1 game. He came on last year against Dublin which was a big substitution. There is a bit of a tradition for promising players spending a few seasons on the subs and then just fading away e.g. Paul O'Connor. Next year is important for Jack. The league is for blooding players but I think it should also be used to bring continuity. Griffin should be given the fullback jersey for the full league. Let him build up an understanding with those around him and continue into the championship. I think Johnathan Lyne should be getting a bit of continuity too. But lads thats grand to give him the No.3 jersey for the league but the Qs is.. Is full back his best position? Like he had the chance in this years league and he got absolutely roasted against Brian Hurley! Ive nothing against the lad but with his build and everything would centre back be a better place for him we saw what he did to Aidan O Shea personally thats what u need in a centre back a big physical presence and someone who can carry the ball which if u ask me they are 2 of his strong points! Im not saying Peter Crowley isnt good enough at Centre Back because ive great time for Peter but if you put Mark to centre back you could put Peter on the wing! Just something I considered not saying it should be done!
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 29, 2014 17:44:40 GMT
Mc Grath Cup is complicated by third level teams having first call on players. Important Fitzgerald tries to blood some younger players - I know we have had a lack of u21 success but the lack of any u21 on this years senior team (panel also I think) is not good. Always positive to have a few younger guys pushing for places and ensure a balance to the squad. ya there appears to be a gap at the moment in terms of real quality from 19-22 at the moment and i dont see many players in there who are good enough to break into the 26 next season. i guess we can carry that for another year, but ideally we have 4 or 5 of those minors on extended panel next year and they are ready to be strong players off the bench in 2016, being first teamers in 2017. is Jack Savage doing anything in terms of playing good ball this season? Jack spent the summer in the States and only back a short while- will be part of Darraghs U-21 panel for next year.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Sept 29, 2014 18:10:19 GMT
'When man plans God laughs' and I think Fitzy would be laughing if had nothing better to do than read our selections; did any of us have a clue of the right team for The AI final and it was only a week ago? I don't mean to upstage comments but sometimes we have to laugh at ourselves, and I'm as big a child myself as any of us! I thought Fitzy was right but of course half of that was trust/blind faith, the other half was that I didn't know my arse from my elbow on the subject. How many would have got the matchups right, in fairness a canny selector on the outside would have Murphy glued to McHugh. How many knew that AO'M would go the pace with Murphy and break him down for 70 mins? Would we have opened their defense by JO'D and KD dragging McGee & Co out? Would we have reacted instantly by introducing Enright on McBrearty? If all those decisions were not spot on then the outcome mightn't have been the same? Look at the calls Jim McGuinness made omitting McBrearty, McElhinney and Toye from the starting 15, maybe he was trying to end up with the best 15, or maybe it was all on the day, people can only do their best and nobody is infallible.
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Post by seamo on Sept 29, 2014 18:22:45 GMT
...so yeah. Jack Savage, big fan of his, great movement off the ball, very smart player and I'd like to think he's one that can make the break through.
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Post by homerj on Sept 29, 2014 22:32:19 GMT
so is there anybody else in the county from 19-22 who is good enough to make a go at the panel next year or is Savage our only player?
based on the lack of apparent talent, it would seem that another year or two of torture at u-21 level beckons, though perhaps 5 or 6 of that minor team can step up immediately and lets not forget, that minor team did very well to take Dublin down to the wire in 2012.
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 30, 2014 10:08:23 GMT
so is there anybody else in the county from 19-22 who is good enough to make a go at the panel next year or is Savage our only player? based on the lack of apparent talent, it would seem that another year or two of torture at u-21 level beckons, though perhaps 5 or 6 of that minor team can step up immediately and lets not forget, that minor team did very well to take Dublin down to the wire in 2012. Thomas Hickey and Conor Keane would be too i think could have a future as seniors. Hickey was very good for the Under 21 and Juniors this year. Keane might be a bit young for the seniors now but a year even training with them will do him a lot of good
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Post by themanhimself on Sept 30, 2014 10:31:14 GMT
McGrath Cup will be the first blooding ground for players in 2015,It's where Paul Murphy,Stephen O Brien & Barry John made a big claim this year. Players who can expect to feature Pa Kilkenny Mark Griffin Ferghal McNamara Jonathan Lyne Jack Sherwood Marcus Mangan Bryan Sheehan Paul O Donoghue Daithi Casey Alan Fitzgearld Darran O Sullivan Conor Cox Thomas Hickey Any one from the Juniors? Ciaran Keating had a solid year for junior/u21s this year , Althought the forwards are fairly jammed as it is, but a good player none the less
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Post by kerryexile on Sept 30, 2014 11:59:26 GMT
A number of things that point to developing Griffin as a fullback.
This year we had 7 defenders for 6 positions. Four of these are more at home in the halfback line – Murphy, Crowley, Young and Fionn. One of them can be named in the fullback line. Regarding the other full back positions, even though they each had a great final, Mark or AOM are not getting any younger. Enright is sometimes struggling. The line needs bolstering and we don’t have a huge selection of players to anchor it.
Crowley had a great end of season at centre back, has years ahead to get even better so that position is not a priority right now.
Everyone was concerned about the high ball into the square before the final. A confident Griffin in there would resolve that.
I think too much is made of the league game against Cork in Tralee. Whenever the flood gates open at midfield the fullback is always in for a roasting. Admittedly he didn’t have much success but actually I thought he never gave up trying that day.
As for no players between 19 & 22 – no one knows. Who would have known in 2012, when he was 22 that in 2 years time Paul Murphy would be man of the match in the 2014 AIF. I said before that Kerry is the only county that can pluck a player from obscurity to be MOTM in the AIF. This year proves that. No disrespect to Paul – he was not well known outside the county this time last year - remember Colm O’Rourke saying he had to ask former players about him.
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Post by keane on Sept 30, 2014 12:04:53 GMT
Griffin was hung out to dry by the tactical setup in the league match against Cork to be fair.
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Post by timmy on Sept 30, 2014 14:05:28 GMT
How about Shane McSweeney from Laune Rangers as an outside bet for next year. He's playing serious football lately - probably deserves a run in the McGrath Cup........
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Post by themanhimself on Sept 30, 2014 14:23:20 GMT
Griffin was hung out to dry by the tactical setup in the league match against Cork to be fair. Griffin suffered for the cause, did little wrong in the league. had 2 tough days in the office v Mayo and V Cork.. But showed his worth in the Mayo replay. A valuable asset who is still young
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