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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 17:16:20 GMT
The draw for the County Championship was made this evening,
Ballyheigue V Lixnaw
St Brendan's V Ballyduff
Causeway V Kilmoyley
Abbeydorney V Crotta
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Post by finuge86 on Jun 23, 2014 21:08:53 GMT
Lixnaw,causeway,st Brendan's, abbeydorney to win
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 25, 2014 11:06:44 GMT
No Kenmare/Kilgarvan team this year, thats disappointing. They took 2 heavy beatings last year but they were a young team and thats the only way they will learn and see where their at. The more teams playing the better. In fact i think there could be room for 3 other teams, Kenmare/Kilgarvan and if Crokes & St Pats joined to form a Killareny team and Stacks and Daugh could for a team. They would still play in the Intermediate and Junior championships just join for senior
I dont think its right either that Crotta can just go back up like that. They should have had to win the Intermediate at least!
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Post by sidelined on Jun 27, 2014 22:39:46 GMT
very disappointing that the south kerry hurling board does not have a team entered. this is not the way to promote hurling. they took a couple of heavy beatings over the last couple of years but they have to start somewhere. they won the county minor title a few years ago and should have build on this success. are doing great work at underage level. the kenmare club seems to have little interest in hurling at the moment. if the board put together a 5 year plan to win a senior county title and appoint a management team to implement it, but the current board also needs to be freshen up. opting out wont develop hurling in s. kerry!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 12:18:14 GMT
The clubs down in South Kerry are more interested in winning an Intermediate Championship rather then pulling the best players together and entering the Senior.
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 28, 2014 15:25:20 GMT
The clubs down in South Kerry are more interested in winning an Intermediate Championship rather then pulling the best players together and entering the Senior. Agreed totally. Its not quite the ''unique hurling stronghold'' a certain someone from them parts tries to make it out to be
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 28, 2014 15:50:52 GMT
Hi lads I put Causeway down in a prediction league how am I looking?
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Post by finuge86 on Jun 28, 2014 16:16:35 GMT
Hi lads I put Causeway down in a prediction league how am I looking? You will b there or there abouts I think ballyduff and ardfert prob the two best teams but causeway would be more than capable of upsetting either!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 8:31:32 GMT
Alot of the Kerry clubs have pulled out of the Munster League this year,when clubs from other counties pulled out it only left two Kerry clubs in some groups which is a waste of time as they would have only one game in the group against each other,the aim of this competition was to get our clubs playing less games against each other.
Hopefully next year the competition will run off better and we wont have Kerry clubs or clubs from the other counties having to pull out.
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Post by mossie on Jul 7, 2014 23:48:07 GMT
The senior hurling chamopionship will have a few exciting games which will serve to mask over the dire straits Kerry hurling is in
The standard of the hurling the last few championships is terrible when you strip away the excitement a few close games had. 2 or 3 of the teams in it are very poor and have absolutely zero chance of winning it. It is a North Kerry Championship not a county championship as not one single team outside North Kerry in it. There was a time not a million years ago when Kenmare, Austin Stacks, St Pats had teams in it that used win games. In fact if the South Kerry board teams could pull together they would have a chance of beating some of the north Kerry teams as a few of them are poor at best.
Division 3 and Division 2 of the co league has teams pulling out, walkovers, games not played, west munster league not really taking off. It a pretty bad scenario overall. These competitions should be vibrant. Its no wonder we are not winning Christy Ring cups
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 8, 2014 11:25:41 GMT
The senior hurling chamopionship will have a few exciting games which will serve to mask over the dire straits Kerry hurling is in The standard of the hurling the last few championships is terrible when you strip away the excitement a few close games had. 2 or 3 of the teams in it are very poor and have absolutely zero chance of winning it. It is a North Kerry Championship not a county championship as not one single team outside North Kerry in it. There was a time not a million years ago when Kenmare, Austin Stacks, St Pats had teams in it that used win games. In fact if the South Kerry board teams could pull together they would have a chance of beating some of the north Kerry teams as a few of them are poor at best. Division 3 and Division 2 of the co league has teams pulling out, walkovers, games not played, west munster league not really taking off. It a pretty bad scenario overall. These competitions should be vibrant. Its no wonder we are not winning Christy Ring cups Lot of work being done this year by Stacks. Wont be far off winning the Intermediate id say. Looking like they could win Div 3 also so again will be another step forward. I think 2/3 rounds of the senior will be played before the Intermediate this year meaning the North Kerry clubs wont be able to use as many senior players as they have in the past. Its very important to have a strong team in Tralee, Stacks are keeping the show on the road at adult level with Tralee Parnells doing a lot at underage level. Of course the same will have to happen in Killarney with Crokes. Teams in South Kerry have been complaining about not getting a chance with the county team (one person in particular. ''unique hurling stronghold'' being a hint) But if their pulling out of the county championship what do they expect? Like i said in another post. Kenmare/Kilgarvan could join as South Kerry or whatever they like, Crokes & St Pats joined to form a Killareny team and Stacks and Daugh could for a team. They would still play in the Intermediate and Junior championships just join for senior. That would be 3 new teams in the championship. I dont see any point in all of them joining as it would be next to impossible to train etc This way the teams are close to eachother and there would be less hassle training wise. I agree what there are a few teams who have no chance for not only winning the title but even a game. Something needs to be done to force team into making an effort. Maybe not straight relegation but maybe a playoff with the Intermediate winners. A lot of them are far too comfortable and are just happy to play their few games each year. I also think the idea of the Tralee IT playing in the championship should be looked at. Even if it was for only 2/3 years. Playing against playing of the slandered that the IT have could only be a good thing i feel
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Post by mossie on Jul 8, 2014 13:24:15 GMT
The senior hurling chamopionship will have a few exciting games which will serve to mask over the dire straits Kerry hurling is in The standard of the hurling the last few championships is terrible when you strip away the excitement a few close games had. 2 or 3 of the teams in it are very poor and have absolutely zero chance of winning it. It is a North Kerry Championship not a county championship as not one single team outside North Kerry in it. There was a time not a million years ago when Kenmare, Austin Stacks, St Pats had teams in it that used win games. In fact if the South Kerry board teams could pull together they would have a chance of beating some of the north Kerry teams as a few of them are poor at best. Division 3 and Division 2 of the co league has teams pulling out, walkovers, games not played, west munster league not really taking off. It a pretty bad scenario overall. These competitions should be vibrant. Its no wonder we are not winning Christy Ring cups Lot of work being done this year by Stacks. Wont be far off winning the Intermediate id say. Looking like they could win Div 3 also so again will be another step forward. I think 2/3 rounds of the senior will be played before the Intermediate this year meaning the North Kerry clubs wont be able to use as many senior players as they have in the past. Its very important to have a strong team in Tralee, Stacks are keeping the show on the road at adult level with Tralee Parnells doing a lot at underage level. Of course the same will have to happen in Killarney with Crokes. Teams in South Kerry have been complaining about not getting a chance with the county team (one person in particular. ''unique hurling stronghold'' being a hint) But if their pulling out of the county championship what do they expect? Like i said in another post. Kenmare/Kilgarvan could join as South Kerry or whatever they like, Crokes & St Pats joined to form a Killareny team and Stacks and Daugh could for a team. They would still play in the Intermediate and Junior championships just join for senior. That would be 3 new teams in the championship. I dont see any point in all of them joining as it would be next to impossible to train etc This way the teams are close to eachother and there would be less hassle training wise. I agree what there are a few teams who have no chance for not only winning the title but even a game. Something needs to be done to force team into making an effort. Maybe not straight relegation but maybe a playoff with the Intermediate winners. A lot of them are far too comfortable and are just happy to play their few games each year. I also think the idea of the Tralee IT playing in the championship should be looked at. Even if it was for only 2/3 years. Playing against playing of the slandered that the IT have could only be a good thing i feel the same will have to happen with Crokes and Killarney? I think you will find juvenile hurling is on the go longer in Crokes than with Parnells! Crokes have players on the Kerry minor hurling team last 2 years. Also that Crokes have been a good intermediate and Div 2 side for years. I am not even sure Stacks are in the intermediate this year??? Crokes operating at a level above Stacks for several years. Crokes biggest problem at adult is the so few games they play with so many games not played in Div 2. They d be better off playing in Duhallow leagues at this stage. they have plenty of lads interested in hurling and badly need games. The hurling activity at Tralee Parnells is very encouraging
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 8, 2014 14:31:36 GMT
Lot of work being done this year by Stacks. Wont be far off winning the Intermediate id say. Looking like they could win Div 3 also so again will be another step forward. I think 2/3 rounds of the senior will be played before the Intermediate this year meaning the North Kerry clubs wont be able to use as many senior players as they have in the past. Its very important to have a strong team in Tralee, Stacks are keeping the show on the road at adult level with Tralee Parnells doing a lot at underage level. Of course the same will have to happen in Killarney with Crokes. Teams in South Kerry have been complaining about not getting a chance with the county team (one person in particular. ''unique hurling stronghold'' being a hint) But if their pulling out of the county championship what do they expect? Like i said in another post. Kenmare/Kilgarvan could join as South Kerry or whatever they like, Crokes & St Pats joined to form a Killareny team and Stacks and Daugh could for a team. They would still play in the Intermediate and Junior championships just join for senior. That would be 3 new teams in the championship. I dont see any point in all of them joining as it would be next to impossible to train etc This way the teams are close to eachother and there would be less hassle training wise. I agree what there are a few teams who have no chance for not only winning the title but even a game. Something needs to be done to force team into making an effort. Maybe not straight relegation but maybe a playoff with the Intermediate winners. A lot of them are far too comfortable and are just happy to play their few games each year. I also think the idea of the Tralee IT playing in the championship should be looked at. Even if it was for only 2/3 years. Playing against playing of the slandered that the IT have could only be a good thing i feel the same will have to happen with Crokes and Killarney? I think you will find juvenile hurling is on the go longer in Crokes than with Parnells! Crokes have players on the Kerry minor hurling team last 2 years. Also that Crokes have been a good intermediate and Div 2 side for years. I am not even sure Stacks are in the intermediate this year??? Crokes operating at a level above Stacks for several years. Crokes biggest problem at adult is the so few games they play with so many games not played in Div 2. They d be better off playing in Duhallow leagues at this stage. they have plenty of lads interested in hurling and badly need games. The hurling activity at Tralee Parnells is very encouraging Yes i know they have. Im saying it needs to happen in Tralee as well. Yes Stacks are Intermediate have been for the last 2 years now. They are also undefeated in Div 3 of the league. Stacks have been beating Croke quite often the last few years in South Kerry etc. Stacks at the moment are playing in both North and South Kerry so they are getting plenty of games but not enough players. If they were to get promoted and win the Intermediate this year id be expecting to see maybe 1/2 of their players around the Kerry panel next year. They have a few descent players at the moment but the problem is they would be on the wrong side of 30 at this stage
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 14, 2014 23:20:56 GMT
Garveys Supervalu Senior Hurling Championship gets underway this weekend
All roads lead to Austin Stack Park this weekend for Kerry hurling followers with the opening round of the 2014 Garvey's Supervalu County Senior Hurling Championship.
First up on Friday evening is the meeting of Ballyheigue and Lixnaw at 7.00p.m. On Saturday evening Causeway take on Kilmoyley, also at 7.00p.m. There will be a double bill on Sunday with Abbeydorney versus Crotta O'Neill's at 1.00p.m. and the reigning champions, St. Brendan's play Ballyduff at 2.30p.m. Extra time will be played in all games if necessary.
The championship will be played in the 'Christy Ring' format so all teams will again be out on the following weekend when the winners play winners and losers play losers. Round 2 is on the weekend of July 26th with Round 3 on the August weekend.?
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 19, 2014 15:43:56 GMT
Fri 18th Jul 2014 - Venue: Austin Stack Park
Round: 1
Ballyheigue 0-8 -v- 0-15 Lixnaw
Kilmoyley v Causeway... a younger Causeway team should prevail. Ardfert v Ballyduff.... too hard to call it. Losers are out again next weekend so Ardfert may be concentrating on the intermediate football after next weekend.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2014 21:21:19 GMT
Winners are playing as well next week Mick
Was at the game tonight,poor enough game,highlight was Danny Collins free taking,think he missed just one all game,Paudie O Connor at midfield as well got through a good bit of work,when they got ahead they slowed the game down used the clock and kept their physio very busy
Causeway never got going,like last year they started the game slowly but unlike last year they didn't have that second half burst they showed in the games,disappointing showing by them.
Also the referees performance was very poor I thought,he was way too whistle happy and there was little or no flow to the game at all outside ref's are brought in to improve the games but the ref had the opposite effect on this evenings game.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 19, 2014 21:57:34 GMT
from Kerry website
Garveys Supervalu Senior Hurling Championship Round 1. Kilmoyley 1-11 Causeway 0-11
Most of the excitement in this Garveys Supervalu senior hurling Championship first round game at Tralee’s Austin Stack Park on Saturday evening was crammed into the final five minutes of play. Kilmoyley enjoyed what looked like a comfortable 4 points lead with normal time up but then Causeway won a 21 yards free which Tadhg Flynn blasted for goal but the Kilmoyley defence saved at the expense of a “65” which Paul McGrath pointed in the 62nd minute. A minute later, John Mike Dooley, who had earlier been introduced by Causeway, was fouled in the square and again Tadhg Flynn made the journey upfield only to see his penalty saved on the line to deny Causeway extra time. The game itself will not live long in the memory given that 10 of the winners points came from placed balls while Causeway had 7 from the same source. The winners got the better start and dominating play they had three pointed frees from Daniel Collins on the scoreboard before Adrian Royle collected a misdirected pass near the sideline and soloed forty yards before giving Tadhg Flynn no chance from close range in the 9th minute. Causeway responded well to this setback with five unanswered points, including three from play from Darren Leahy, Paul McGrath and the lively Brandon Barrett to leave two between the sides by the 19th minute. Kilmoyley had a number of poor wides and Colman Savage was almost in for a goal but they had two more pointed frees from Daniel Collins and another from play by Adrian Royle to a fine point in reply from a Paul McGrath free from 70 yards on the sideline. At the break it was 1-6 to 0-7 for the winners. Kilmoyley carried on where they left off with 3 more pointed frees from Collins to lead by 1-9 to 7 points at the three quarter stage. Play was broken up with a number of injury stoppages before John Mike Dooley pointed from a free for Causeway’s first score of the half in the 48th minute. Daniel Collins with two more frees and two good points from play by Brandon Barrett and Jason Leahy still left the four points between the sides as Adam While saw red for Causeway. Then came those dramatic injury time saves that saw Kilmoyley deservedly take the honours. Scorers: Kilmoyley: Daniel Collins 0-10 frees, Adrian Royle 1-1. Causeway: Paul McGrath 0-6, (5Fr), Brandon Barrett 0-2, John M. Dooley (Fr), Darren Leahy and Jason Leahy 0-1 each
Photo from U10 Go_Games that took part at half time tonight between Causeway V Kilmoyley.
Lixnaw 0 - 15 Ballyheigue 0 - 8
Lixnaw had a comfortable win over Ballyheigue in Round 1 of the Garvey’s Super Valu 2014 Kerry County Senior Hurling Championship tie played at Austin Stack Park, Tralee on Friday evening. Played before a good crowd, in excellent and warm conditions, Lixnaw were by far the better team and could afford the luxury of hitting 16 wides and still come out on top by 7 points.
Ballyheigue opened the scoring in the 2nd minute with a Philip Lucid point from play. Fergus Fitzmaurice equalised in the 3rd and when Brendan Brosnan pointed from play after 10 minutes to make it 0 – 2 to 0 – 1, Lixnaw took a lead they were never to lose. Lucid put over a free for Ballyheigue but by the 16th minute further points, from Ricky Heffernan (free) and Brosnan again, left Lixnaw 4 points to 2 ahead. Then an accidental collision between 2 players let a Lixnaw player injured, necessitating a long delay while medical attention was given and an ambulance was called. Thankfully the player walked into the ambulance and was transferred to hospital for further treatment. The game resumed after a delay of over 20 minutes. Lixnaw continued to dominate however. 2 Lixnaw points from James Flaherty, from a free and from play, were punctuated by a Diarmuid Walsh point for the sea siders , leaving Lixnaw ahead at the break, 0 – 6 to 0 – 3. On the resumption Lixnaw really took over. A purple patch between the 34th and 42nd minutes yielded 5 points from Conor O’Brien (2), Heffernan, Flaherty and the impressive John Buckley. Ballyheigue’s replies were sporadic. A free and a ’65 from Philip Lucid kept them in touch but they were behind by 11 points to 5 entering the last quarter. They made some decent attacks but a poor first touch left them down. Meanwhile Lixnaw grew in confidence and further points from Buckley (3) and Darragh Shanahan gave them a final tally of 15 while late Ballyheigue points from Sean Colgan (2) and Pa O’Rgan put a better look on the scoreboard. Ag Deireadh bhí an bua ag Leac Sná, 0 – 15 in aghaidh 0 - 8.
Scorers: Lixnaw: John Buckley 0-4, James Flaherty 0-3, Ricky Heffernan, Brendan Brosnan, and Conor O’Brien 0-2 each, Darragh Shanahan and Fergus Fitzmaurice 0-1 each. Ballyheigue: Philip Lucid 0-4, Seanie Colgan 0-2, Pa O’Regan and Diarnuid Walsh 0-1 each.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 20, 2014 16:01:30 GMT
6 point win for Ardfert over Ballyduff in defensive tight game.
Ardfert play Lixnaw next. Ballyduff play Causeway and the losers are gone
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Post by sidelined on Jul 20, 2014 21:52:50 GMT
6 point win for Ardfert over Ballyduff in defensive tight game. Ardfert play Lixnaw next. Ballyduff play Causeway and the losers are gone ballyduff v causeway would have been alot of peoples tip for the county final, now one of them will be gone next weekend. has the opening weekend showed up a serious lack of quality forwards playing in the county, only 4or 5 points scored from play on friday nights game the rest all frees. is the practice of bringing in outside players to play with the county team hindering the development of players or a realisation that we just havent the quaility of player to win the christy ring cup on our own?
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 20, 2014 22:31:29 GMT
6 point win for Ardfert over Ballyduff in defensive tight game. Ardfert play Lixnaw next. Ballyduff play Causeway and the losers are gone ballyduff v causeway would have been alot of peoples tip for the county final, now one of them will be gone next weekend. has the opening weekend showed up a serious lack of quality forwards playing in the county, only 4or 5 points scored from play on friday nights game the rest all frees. is the practice of bringing in outside players to play with the county team hindering the development of players or a realisation that we just havent the quaility of player to win the christy ring cup on our own? Iv been thinking the same thing myself. Of a year starting off in its development the outside players are a good idea, but with all the underage success Kerry should have plenty of their own players. Not sure about Kildare this year but when Carlow won back to back titles they had no outside players and i remember at the time their manager saying he didnt understand why you'd want outside players. Far too many teams rely one on player to get most of their scores, and more often then not they come from frees. You look at Shane Nolan with Crotta and Darragh O'Connell with Abbeydorney as two examples, their expected to get 95% of their teams scores. Other fellas just wont put in the effort then bringing down the overall quality
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 14:54:53 GMT
All poor games so far,hopefully next weekend we will see an improvement in the play.
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Post by mossie on Jul 23, 2014 23:26:43 GMT
All poor games so far,hopefully next weekend we will see an improvement in the play. I regret to say poor games is correct Skill level poor, loadsa frees, very few scorers from play, stop start games etc. closeness on the scoreboard has kept entertainment value to some extent. The stop start nature of the games is a turn off. I suspect outside referees may have too much of a desire to blow for frees to ensure law and order is kept. In other cases maybe Kerry hurlers are not coached well in the technical aspects of tackling and hurling which leads to frees? Of the teams Lixnaw may yet again be the dark horse. Rated outside Ballyduff, St Brendans and Causeway as likely winners but Lixnaw are still right up there with them. 17 year old John Buckley looks like a real prospect and if he, James Flaherty and Ricky Heffernan click on the one day, Lixnaw will put up big scores. Lotsa experience in in the ranks with Pat Corridan, Maurice Corridan, Trevor McKenna, John Griffin etc. Hopefully young Brendan Brosnan be back before long as well. I heard the injury not as bad as initially feared. Pat Driscoll looks to have St Brendans in good shape again. What a job he has done turning them into championship contenders and winners. They could be stronger this year than last year. Causeway a big disappointment v Kilmoyley in a poor game. The game between Causeway and Ballyduff next weekend is a massive game and will not be for the faint hearted. Its a game neither expected to be facing so soon in the championship and it is exit stage left for a fancied side Sunday evening. A draw a likely result here actually so maybe both will have another day out
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Post by mossie on Jul 23, 2014 23:32:29 GMT
6 point win for Ardfert over Ballyduff in defensive tight game. Ardfert play Lixnaw next. Ballyduff play Causeway and the losers are gone ballyduff v causeway would have been alot of peoples tip for the county final, now one of them will be gone next weekend. has the opening weekend showed up a serious lack of quality forwards playing in the county, only 4or 5 points scored from play on friday nights game the rest all frees. is the practice of bringing in outside players to play with the county team hindering the development of players or a realisation that we just havent the quaility of player to win the christy ring cup on our own? I am against outside players playing with Kerry but they cannot be blamed for the poor standard of the county championship. The club scene in Kerry is in poor enough order. Several games conceded in div 2 and 3 of the co league and more worryingly the Munster league is struggling as well. clubs like kenmare, kilgarvan, dr crokes have hardly played a half dozen games each this year and we are nearly in august!! how the heck is hurling supposed to developed outside north Kerry?
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Post by mossie on Jul 23, 2014 23:41:59 GMT
the same will have to happen with Crokes and Killarney? I think you will find juvenile hurling is on the go longer in Crokes than with Parnells! Crokes have players on the Kerry minor hurling team last 2 years. Also that Crokes have been a good intermediate and Div 2 side for years. I am not even sure Stacks are in the intermediate this year??? Crokes operating at a level above Stacks for several years. Crokes biggest problem at adult is the so few games they play with so many games not played in Div 2. They d be better off playing in Duhallow leagues at this stage. they have plenty of lads interested in hurling and badly need games. The hurling activity at Tralee Parnells is very encouraging Yes i know they have. Im saying it needs to happen in Tralee as well. Yes Stacks are Intermediate have been for the last 2 years now. They are also undefeated in Div 3 of the league. Stacks have been beating Croke quite often the last few years in South Kerry etc. Stacks at the moment are playing in both North and South Kerry so they are getting plenty of games but not enough players. If they were to get promoted and win the Intermediate this year id be expecting to see maybe 1/2 of their players around the Kerry panel next year. They have a few descent players at the moment but the problem is they would be on the wrong side of 30 at this stage I cannot see Stacks winning the intermediate. They seem to have a decent side alrite and a big panel. What will happen to them long run I wonder. Will all Parnells players play adult with Stacks or just Parnells players with a Stacks background? Cd there be two adult hurling teams in Tralee in a few years i.e. Stacks and Parnells? Stacks have a long tradition in hurling. They will be reluctant to wind down and run under the Parnells banner at adult level I imagine. Be interesting to see how that plays out over the next few years.
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Post by sidelined on Jul 24, 2014 9:49:28 GMT
ballyduff v causeway would have been alot of peoples tip for the county final, now one of them will be gone next weekend. has the opening weekend showed up a serious lack of quality forwards playing in the county, only 4or 5 points scored from play on friday nights game the rest all frees. is the practice of bringing in outside players to play with the county team hindering the development of players or a realisation that we just havent the quaility of player to win the christy ring cup on our own? I am against outside players playing with Kerry but they cannot be blamed for the poor standard of the county championship. The club scene in Kerry is in poor enough order. Several games conceded in div 2 and 3 of the co league and more worryingly the Munster league is struggling as well. clubs like kenmare, kilgarvan, dr crokes have hardly played a half dozen games each this year and we are nearly in august!! how the heck is hurling supposed to developed outside north Kerry? the intermediate draw was made this week. games to be played after 3 rounds of the senior championship. this will result in some n. kerry clubs minus over 20 players thereby lowering the standard considerably. why not just rule out the starting 15 of the last senior championship game in the previous year plus anyone who played christy ring hurling in the current year. its nonsense that a player can come on for a few minutes and be ruled out of playing intermediate. the intermediate should be run on the christy ring format as well the promotion of hurling in s. kerry is a joke, no team in senior championship, walkover given and recieved in co. league and they end up playing their own senior championship in bog holes in october
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 11:37:15 GMT
Kilgravan wanted to switch the Div 2 County League games to Friday nights,it might be worth a go as the other clubs who have lads away in college or working up the country would then have a chance to play,it works in the Junior Football league,so why not have the Div 2 league ran off before the Junior Football starts starts,also they should go back to the two groups instead of one group like this season,it worked better with two groups of 4 and their was less walkovers.
As for South Kerry having a Senior team I think for the amount of training and time that has been put into developing hurling outside North Kerry so far all that there is to show for it is Kenmare's minor win a few years back,noting has happened since,I think the players and clubs attitude has to questioned,as I have said before the South Kerry clubs are more then happy to be challenging for an Intermediate title and playing in the South Kerry Championship rather then all pulling together and having a crack at the Senior,I mean a proper go at it putting in the same effort to training as the North Kerry lads do,get the best 25 lads in South Kerry together and give it a go.
The last few attempts they have made to put in a senior South Kerry team into the Championship have been pitiful.South Kerry clubs used be very competitive before,Kenmare especially in the 80s/90s were more then a match for any team from North Kerry and had some great players,the attitude needs to change down South.
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Post by veteran on Jul 24, 2014 11:59:22 GMT
Regarding outside hurlers playing with Kerry. I suppose the most important hurling match Kerry played this year was their clash with Offaly in Thurles a couple of months ago. While listening to the radio, I was stunned when I heard the commentator say that one of the imports was released from that match to play a club match in Tipperary.
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 24, 2014 16:02:50 GMT
Yes i know they have. Im saying it needs to happen in Tralee as well. Yes Stacks are Intermediate have been for the last 2 years now. They are also undefeated in Div 3 of the league. Stacks have been beating Croke quite often the last few years in South Kerry etc. Stacks at the moment are playing in both North and South Kerry so they are getting plenty of games but not enough players. If they were to get promoted and win the Intermediate this year id be expecting to see maybe 1/2 of their players around the Kerry panel next year. They have a few descent players at the moment but the problem is they would be on the wrong side of 30 at this stage I cannot see Stacks winning the intermediate. They seem to have a decent side alrite and a big panel. What will happen to them long run I wonder. Will all Parnells players play adult with Stacks or just Parnells players with a Stacks background? Cd there be two adult hurling teams in Tralee in a few years i.e. Stacks and Parnells? Stacks have a long tradition in hurling. They will be reluctant to wind down and run under the Parnells banner at adult level I imagine. Be interesting to see how that plays out over the next few years. Parnells were actually reformed by one of the current Stacks players. The idea is to have an adult team down the line, its not know if they will changed to Parnells or stay as Stacks or have two teams
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 24, 2014 16:12:34 GMT
I am against outside players playing with Kerry but they cannot be blamed for the poor standard of the county championship. The club scene in Kerry is in poor enough order. Several games conceded in div 2 and 3 of the co league and more worryingly the Munster league is struggling as well. clubs like kenmare, kilgarvan, dr crokes have hardly played a half dozen games each this year and we are nearly in august!! how the heck is hurling supposed to developed outside north Kerry? the intermediate draw was made this week. games to be played after 3 rounds of the senior championship. this will result in some n. kerry clubs minus over 20 players thereby lowering the standard considerably. why not just rule out the starting 15 of the last senior championship game in the previous year plus anyone who played christy ring hurling in the current year. its nonsense that a player can come on for a few minutes and be ruled out of playing intermediate. the intermediate should be run on the christy ring format as well the promotion of hurling in s. kerry is a joke, no team in senior championship, walkover given and recieved in co. league and they end up playing their own senior championship in bog holes in october I agree that a lot of the North Kerry teams will be a lot weaker without senior players the fact is a lot of them have been getting away with murder over the years with the amount of senior players being used. Some have even had lads who were on the Kerry panel playing. That said the same thing is happening in junior football and fro what? Just to win a title? Your idea of the team who played in a clubs last senior championship game would be the best way to fix it. It would have to be enforced and teams who brake made examples of by being thrown out of the championship for the following year. As for South Kerry it makes me cringe when i see a certain someone from them parts try to claim it as a ''unique hurling stronghold''. Its an absolute joke they have no team this year. Playing in the Intermediate again is going to be no help to them in the long run
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 24, 2014 16:19:57 GMT
Kilgravan wanted to switch the Div 2 County League games to Friday nights,it might be worth a go as the other clubs who have lads away in college or working up the country would then have a chance to play,it works in the Junior Football league,so why not have the Div 2 league ran off before the Junior Football starts starts,also they should go back to the two groups instead of one group like this season,it worked better with two groups of 4 and their was less walkovers. As for South Kerry having a Senior team I think for the amount of training and time that has been put into developing hurling outside North Kerry so far all that there is to show for it is Kenmare's minor win a few years back,noting has happened since,I think the players and clubs attitude has to questioned,as I have said before the South Kerry clubs are more then happy to be challenging for an Intermediate title and playing in the South Kerry Championship rather then all pulling together and having a crack at the Senior,I mean a proper go at it putting in the same effort to training as the North Kerry lads do,get the best 25 lads in South Kerry together and give it a go. The last few attempts they have made to put in a senior South Kerry team into the Championship have been pitiful.South Kerry clubs used be very competitive before,Kenmare especially in the 80s/90s were more then a match for any team from North Kerry and had some great players,the attitude needs to change down South. Like i said before i think hurling outside of North Kerry would be better served by trying to get 3 teams together. Kenmare & Kilgravan as South Kerry, Crokes & St Pats as Killarney and Stacks & Daugh. The last attempts of a South Kerry teams didnt work because it was impossible. Training only being held in Kenmare or Kilgarvan and expecting lads from Stacks to travel all the way from Tralee, was never going to work. If you had the 3 teams iv said they would be close together and would be able to train with eachother a lot easier.
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