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Post by thekingdom on Aug 15, 2007 9:31:36 GMT
BOI are celebrating 15 years of sponsorship of the All-Ireland Football series by giving a €15k prize to whoever picks the same 15 as their experts. Heres mine.
John O'Leary
Martin O'Connell Darren Fay Stephen O'Brien
Seamus Moynihan Kieran McGeeney Paul Curran
Darragh O'Se Anthony Tohill
Maurice Fitzgerald Trevor Giles G Geraghty
Gooch Padraic Joyce Peter Canavan
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Post by seamus on Aug 15, 2007 9:44:32 GMT
If the sponsorship started in '93 then 2007 would be the 15th year. The previous 14 winners are:
Kerry 4
Meath 2
Galway 2
Tyrone 2
Armagh 1
Down 1
Derry 1
Dublin 1
I think the object of th exercise should be to pick the team that you think the experts will pick and not your own personal team.
Will need to think about it.
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Post by buck02 on Aug 15, 2007 10:16:13 GMT
There will be 13 Dubs, 1 Armagh and 1 Tyrone player on it.
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 15, 2007 10:51:06 GMT
There will be 13 Dubs, 1 Armagh and 1 Tyrone player on it. Yeah and the two midfield spots are already automatically gone... 8. Cieran Whelan 9. Cieran Whelan |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2007 16:14:56 GMT
Three Kerry guaranteed being dara, seamus and maurice.
After that it who knows.
Gooch in with a shout but maybe too young.
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 15, 2007 17:02:30 GMT
In a fair competition Declan O'Keeffe would probably edge the goalkeeper's spot but that'll obviously go to either J O'Leary or Cluxton.
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Post by peig on Aug 15, 2007 17:55:25 GMT
There will be 13 Dubs, 1 Armagh and 1 Tyrone player on it. Yeah and the two midfield spots are already automatically gone... 8. Cieran Whelan 9. Cieran Whelan ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by kerryeye on Aug 15, 2007 18:33:43 GMT
In a fair competition Declan O'Keeffe would probably edge the goalkeeper's spot but that'll obviously go to either J O'Leary or Cluxton. As good as dec was he still isnt even the best keeper kerry have had in the last 15 years never mind all of ireland, Tough team to call,hard to see 2 people picking exact same 15.Kerry players with serious shouts for it would have to be Seamus,Dara,Gooch,Fitzy.Anyone else?? |
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Post by nv011956 on Aug 15, 2007 18:41:12 GMT
What about Liam Flaherty?There's a few definites I suppose.Canavan,McGeeney,Darragh,Seamus,Maurice Fitz.Probable a few more too but the brain isn't exactly in top gear here!
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Post by falveyb2k on Aug 15, 2007 22:54:53 GMT
Glen Ryan was better than McGeeny in the last 15 years. The first team named is pretty good but I wouldn't have O Leary, O Connell or O Brien as they're retired too long. I'd give those positions to O Keeffe, Lynch and McCarthy. I'd nearly have Fallon in for Geraghty in the half forward line. Mickey Linden and Colin Corkery will have strong claims, no doubt Kerry will be screwed again.
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Post by SteelFixer on Aug 16, 2007 0:38:29 GMT
I reckon you have been reading too much of the Dublin media Falvey if you think Geln Ryan has been better than McGeeney in the last 15 years ! Ryan in fairness was a fairly decent player, or a good honest pro as they would say in soccer lingo, but he would'nt lace McGeeney's boots !
I don't know about O' Keeffe, Lynch and Fallon, but McCarthy and especially Mickey Linden could be good calls !
Tried picking my own team there now and it is extremely difficult. Some very big calls to make. Seeing that Bank of Ireland is sponsoring it, I presume that the lions share of the team will be selected on championship perfromances alone ! This will probably rule out the likes of Joe Brolly who had some massive league campaigns with Derry in the 1990's, when they won the competion 4 times.
Moynihan, Dara and Fitz have to be dead certs for us, but after that it is hard to see us get any more spots from the crowd who are likely to select this team.
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Post by buck02 on Aug 16, 2007 9:41:20 GMT
Cormac McAnnellan will have to get the full back spot in my opinion.
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 16, 2007 10:09:34 GMT
Cormac McAnnellan will have to get the full back spot in my opinion. I thought he only switched to full-back after the drawn Ulster final in 2003 meaning he only played 4 games as a full-back? |
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Post by buck02 on Aug 16, 2007 10:25:27 GMT
I suppose he won his all star at full back and the all ireland playing full back. But given the way the judges of these type of selections operate I'd be surprised if Cormac didnt get on the team and if he does it'll be at full back.
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Post by Piggy on Aug 16, 2007 10:56:55 GMT
darren fay has the full back spot nailed down,he is everything you need in a full back
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 16, 2007 11:06:37 GMT
going through it county by county I can think of following. please add to it...
Kerry
Maurice, Cooper, Moynihan, Darragh Se, Tomas Se, D'Okeefe, mike mac
Tyrone
Canavan, Mcanallen, Mcguigan, McMenamen (odious and all as he is) stephen O'Neill
Armagh
McGeeny, Mconville, McDonnell, McGrane, Clarke
Galway
Joyce, Donellan, Fallon, D. Meehan
Meath
Fay, giles, Geraghty
Dublin
Wheelan, Curran, Ketih Barr?? Redmond
Cork
Stephen OBrien. Corkery
down
Linden, MCCartan
Derry
tohill
Mayo
McDonald, Mchale
Tipperary
Browne
missing lots I know
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Post by seamus on Aug 16, 2007 11:18:27 GMT
I would add to that list
Dooher
I would take out Cormac as he only got a year or two of that period
John McDermott from Meath was super consistent
Michael Donnellan was vital to Galway
Jayo?
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Post by nv011956 on Aug 16, 2007 11:23:31 GMT
Christ I forgot all about John McDermott.What about Sean Marty Locart?
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 16, 2007 11:24:44 GMT
Mcdermot should definitely be on the short list. As sould dooher. Personally I wouldnt have sherlock in.
I think, for me, the easiest line t pick is Mdfield, Darragh Se and Tohill.
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Post by seamus on Aug 16, 2007 11:45:22 GMT
Goalie is a real problem position. There have been no outstanding candidates. Cluxton and O'Leary were around for a few years and are probably the best of the bunch.
Was Larry tompkins still playing in the mid nineties. He would come into the reckoning as well as would the current meath manager colm coyle.
Michael Donnellan is a huge favourite of this committees and would probably squeeze in somewhere (instead of Mickey Linden?) but i don't think he was top, top class.
The team i think could be picked (not my personal team):
O'Leary
Mike Mac Fay O'Connell
Moynihan McGeeney Geraghty
Dara Se Tohill
Giles Joyce Linden
Gooch Canavan Maurice
I have taken into account the importance each player had to its team winning championship games eg Galway would never have won 2 AI's without Joyce.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 16, 2007 15:02:59 GMT
I was thinking along the same lines Seamus - consider that the selectors will be much the same journalists who pick the All Stars - Breheny, Jim O'Sullivan, Brian Carthy etc etc and you can start to write the team from there.
However, will O'Leary be there? He was one of the key factors to Dublin winning in '95, but was gone by '97 so he only played four years. Cluxton hasn't won an All Ireland with Dublin yet despite racking up the multi All Stars. Declan O'Keeffe was there from the beginning of the league in '95 to '03 and won two All Irelands. Diarmuid Murphy has also won two All Irelands and two leagues. Benny Tierney won't come into the mix, nor will either of the Tyrone / Galway keepers who have medals. I can't see Cormac Sullivan getting one either.....if they don't go for O'Leary, I reckon they might squeeze in Declan O'Keeffe, but that is an outside chance.
Midfield is the other key area I reckon, and I think Darragh may get short changed here. Kevin Walsh was the mainstay in Galway and has three All Stars I think. Even after they began to fade post 2001, he was still there and anybody watching the Galway v Donegal quarter final and replay in 2003 will remember Kevins incredible performances when the man was 34 I think. Another man who may give Darragh or Tohill the boot is John McDermott who was a fantastic central figure for Meath.
Up front I think you've five of the six, but do you think Stevie from Kileavy might slip in ahead of Gooch? Maybe not, but stranger things have happened.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 16, 2007 15:30:58 GMT
i think Darragh o se is the first name they will have down. he is wdiely known as the top midfielder of his generation by pretty much all journalists you read. I am also not sure Martin O Connel will be in there. when did he retire?
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 16, 2007 16:04:02 GMT
you'd be very disappointed if seamus,daragh,maurice and colm werent dead certs on the team.
like everything else polictics will see that a truely great footballer like glen ryan wont get picked because he didnt play for one of the big time counties,i rate glen on a par with seamus moynihan.
then you will have the one wild card,crazy,bizare,sympathy selection what ever you want to call it that will see someone like tommy murphy picked ahead of jacko shea on the team of mellinium dispite jacko partnering micko connell on team of the centuary.
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Post by thekingdom on Aug 16, 2007 16:27:16 GMT
Martin O'Connell was player of the year in 96 and was the only player in the last 15 years to make team of the millenium. On that basis he'll definitely be there. I think the definites are Fay & O'Connell, Seamus Moynihan, McGeeney, paul Curran. The midfield will definitely be Dara and Tohill. Forwards wil definitely have Giles, Joyce, Fitzy, Canavan. So I only see 1 defensive up for grabs - contenders Stephen O'Brien as a token Cork man, Tony Scullion who has 3 all stars during the period, Ken Mortimer as the token Mayo man who has 2 all stars.
For the forwards there is 2 places up for grabs with the contenders being Gooch - 3 all stars, Steve McDonnell - 3 all stars, Michael Donnellan - 2 all stars, Ja Fallon - 2 all stars.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 16, 2007 17:31:10 GMT
Completely forgot about Scud Scullion.....but is he genuinely up with with some of the names you're mentioning?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2007 17:45:24 GMT
Darragh will get midfield alright.
Cluxton for sure will be goalie. Sure hasn't he got a couple of all stars already for being a Dub.
Forwards will be Canavan, Joyce, Fitz, Giles, Linden and as an outside bet Brown (is it two all stars he has?)
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Post by SteelFixer on Aug 17, 2007 1:10:57 GMT
........sympathy selection....... Declan Browne could be your man here ! The GAA would love to have him in, and it would be seen as a type of gesture to the weaker counties ! In fairness to him he would'nt leave the side down ! |
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Post by lostinmayo on Aug 17, 2007 8:47:04 GMT
very hard to pick this, would be interesting for someone to list the players of the year for the last 15 years, some of the winners i can think off from the top of my head...
Star, he won't get on
Tomas, i notice people aren't mentioning him much, he's been one of the top players in last 7-8 years, has to be in with a chance, and highly regarded
Maurice, cert
Gooch, has to be in with a chance.
Stephen O' Neill also has to be in with a chance, injuries may cost him
Seamus, a dead cert
Who else, I think McDonlad will make it from Mayo, has been there nearly all of those 15 years and is highly regarded also
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 17, 2007 9:47:58 GMT
I would think they'll go for something like this.
O'Keefe / Cluxton
Mike Mac
Fay
McMennamin
Moynihan
McGeeney
Meehan
D O Se
Tohill
McDonald
Joyce
Donnellan
Gooch
Canavan
Maurice
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Post by FatTom on Aug 28, 2007 3:59:07 GMT
My tuppence for what it's worth
Stephen Cluxton(Dublin)
Martin O'Connell(Meath)
Darren Fay(Meath)
Mike MacCarthy(Kerry)
Seamus Moynihan(Kerry)
Kieran MacGeeney(Armagh)
Declan Meahan(Galway)
Darragh O'Sé(Kerry)
Anthony Tohill(Derry)
Mauric Fitzgerald(Kerry)
Trevor Giles(Meath)
Michael Donnellan(Galway)
Colm Cooper(Kerry)
Padraic Joyce(Galway)
Peter Canavan(Tyrone)
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