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Post by peig on Jun 14, 2007 0:14:34 GMT
Following on from the Jack O'Connor article, it would be interesting to know how the board rates current/past GAA journalists.
I suppose we can all agree that a certain Mr. Humphries is an excellent features interview writer. What I love mostly about his articles is the inclusion of succinct sentences - he perfectly captures a moment in very few words.
Seán Moran and Keith Duggan of 'The Irish Times' I also rate highly. Malachy Clerkin of the 'Tribune' (of which a certain other ex-Meath player also writes for in mostly embittered and self-righteous tones) is another good wordsmith. And Dara Ó Cinnéide has proven his journalism skills since he started writing for 'Foinse'.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jun 14, 2007 0:34:01 GMT
Duggan, Humphries, McGee not bad, and the greatest of them all, Con Houlihan
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Post by animal on Jun 14, 2007 12:11:42 GMT
Ian o'Riordan, Humphries, Duggan from the Irish Times are all excellent. Denis Walsh from Sunday Times also quite good. McGee is alright but is just an analyst doesn't do big pieces such as interviews. Kieran Shannon of the Tribune is a good read. Don't really pick up the Examiner so can't comment.
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Post by peig on Jun 14, 2007 15:11:35 GMT
Duggan, Humphries, McGee not bad, and the greatest of them all, Con HoulihanForgot about Con. Great writer indeed.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jun 14, 2007 18:16:24 GMT
Match reporting - Sean Moran and Martin Breheny can't be beaten.
Pre match features - Keith Duggan - he has hit just the right cord in whatever pre match interview / feature he is doing time and time again.
Post match indepth feature - Tom Humphries
'Celebrity' column - Colm O'Rourke is always enjoyable but Jack O'Connor is getting better by the week.
Sunday hangover read - Denis Walsh.
While I enjoy Kieran Shannon, he gets a bit too bogged down in his own argument from time to time and layers it over with unnecessary quotes on occasion too.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 14, 2007 21:27:18 GMT
Eamon Sweeney is good too as well as those mentioned already.
I dont like Vincent Hogan because he thinks he is Con Houlihan and tries painfully to copy him without much success.
Con is simply a marvellous writer.
Writing recently about the fact that most modern stadiums today are all seater he said while alluding to Croke Park " a stadium without a terrace is like a sitting room without a fireplace".......
Billy Keane is another superb writer.
I sometimes buy the tribune just to read Kieran Shannon......
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Post by animal on Jun 15, 2007 13:38:29 GMT
The Tribune lads are great men for the stats. I recall a piece on how many accurate foot passes Dec Sullivan made in 1/4 final v Roscommon a few years back (9 in one half for the record!). I know a game is about more than stats but sometimes they make you stop and think as well as dispelling the odd myth.
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Post by Aine on Jun 15, 2007 18:20:41 GMT
Tom Humphries, Billy Keane and the master Con Houlihan, three of the best!
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jun 17, 2007 2:03:07 GMT
Ian O'Riordan, Kieran Shannon & Billy Sheehan all great reads as well, and of the "guest expert writers" Paidi O'Shea, Keith Barr, Paul Curran, Colm O'Rourke. I always enjoyed Liam Hayes' articles, is he still writing?
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Post by peig on Jun 17, 2007 16:20:26 GMT
Ian O'Riordan, Kieran Shannon & Billy Sheehan all great reads as well, and of the "guest expert writers" Paidi O'Shea, Keith Barr, Paul Curran, Colm O'Rourke. I always enjoyed Liam Hayes' articles, is he still writing?[/b] Do I detect a hint of sarcasm there, tierney? Although I have to admit that I continue to read his column in the Trib just to get a few belly laughs. IMO, his efforts to convey his 'expert' opinion do exactly the opposite. If he laid off the whole '...and here's what I would do if I was in charge...' tone, I doubt I'd read his articles anymore. I find the man highly entertaining (in a perverse way, gan dabht). He again alluded to the Carlow football team a few weeks ago. He more or less said he'd go back to manage them if they changed the county colours. In his 'expert' opinion, the Carlow colours just serve as a reminder of defeat to all involved. Eh...the colours ain't the problem there, Mr. Hayes. What he probably doesn't know is that the crowd in Carlow wouldn't have him back for love nor money.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 18, 2007 11:55:29 GMT
Graham Geraghty called Mc Stay a "bitter mayoman" and a "whinger" in an article in yesterdays Tribune. Now it isnt often I'd agree with Geraghty.....
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Post by Walter Mitty on Jun 18, 2007 15:03:44 GMT
While Con Houlihan is a bot before my time, I read a classic collection of his articles and they were magnificant...
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jun 18, 2007 21:57:32 GMT
Ian O'Riordan, Kieran Shannon & Billy Sheehan all great reads as well, and of the "guest expert writers" Paidi O'Shea, Keith Barr, Paul Curran, Colm O'Rourke. I always enjoyed Liam Hayes' articles, is he still writing?[/b] Do I detect a hint of sarcasm there, tierney? Although I have to admit that I continue to read his column in the Trib just to get a few belly laughs. IMO, his efforts to convey his 'expert' opinion do exactly the opposite. If he laid off the whole '...and here's what I would do if I was in charge...' tone, I doubt I'd read his articles anymore. I find the man highly entertaining (in a perverse way, gan dabht). He again alluded to the Carlow football team a few weeks ago. He more or less said he'd go back to manage them if they changed the county colours. In his 'expert' opinion, the Carlow colours just serve as a reminder of defeat to all involved. Eh...the colours ain't the problem there, Mr. Hayes. What he probably doesn't know is that the crowd in Carlow wouldn't have him back for love nor money. [/quote] Do I detect a hint of cynicism there Bean Sayers? I said I always enjoyed Hayes' articles, and I meant it. I havent got the Trib in a while (brilliant paper though, I just dont buy papers anymore, and the default papers lying around, and the internet articles are always Indo & Times). I think what he said about Carlow sounds like light-hearted wit. It didnt work out for him, but they havent done better since he left, nor better before he was there. I think Carlow's weakness is their own problem only. I think Hayes has a very good insight, and a very interesting angle and manner of expression. BTW, great article by Billy Keane again this week Paidi hits the nail on the head for the Dublin team, that it's the ability to get the hard score or two when under the cosh that marks out the top teams. And that a consistent free-taker goes a long way to help this
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Post by sullyschoice on Jun 18, 2007 22:42:57 GMT
I was listening to newstalk 106 last sunday morning and much to surprise there was Paidi interviewing David Norris...is this a change in careers for the great man (Paidi..Not The Good Senitor)
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Post by publandlord on Jun 19, 2007 7:04:52 GMT
I love listening to Billy O'Shea on Kerry Radio - With all the noise in the background, It always sounds like he's doing his analysis from the bar at Laune Rangers!!
Great value
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Post by watchdehop on Jun 19, 2007 7:51:44 GMT
Speaking of journalists there were two prime specimens on with Des Cahill on Drivte time; Tommy Carr and Liam Hayes!! Tommy Carr said "we were sure that Dublin were a top 2 or 3 team at this stage" ?? Who have they displaced of Kerry Tyrone and Armagh or what 2 of those teams have they displaced?!!
Liam Hayes was talking of the great teams of the last 20 years and included Meath (concidence?) and pointeldy omitted Kerry? His bias is unreal
He also made another stupid predicition at in the Tribune at the weekend. He said that Dublin Meath would bury the hurling in viewer figures. The real results came out yesterday and it showed there were a third more watching the hurling.
How is this guy getting work?
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Post by animal on Jun 19, 2007 8:34:15 GMT
Speaking of journalists there were two prime specimens on with Des Cahill on Drivte time; Tommy Carr and Liam Hayes!! Tommy Carr said "we were sure that Dublin were a top 2 or 3 team at this stage" ?? Who have they displaced of Kerry Tyrone and Armagh or what 2 of those teams have they displaced?!! Liam Hayes was talking of the great teams of the last 20 years and included Meath (concidence?) and pointeldy omitted Kerry? His bias is unreal He also made another stupid predicition at in the Tribune at the weekend. He said that Dublin Meath would bury the hurling in viewer figures. The real results came out yesterday and it showed there were a third more watching the hurling. How is this guy getting work? he gets work probably because he's the funniest thing on paper each weekend. i remember being thrilled when he slumped for mayo to beat us in '06. Week after week he gets things arseways but maintains a pious and knowing tone. His article is a guilty sadistic pleasure! He also fails completely to give Kerry any credit whatsoever. He is blind to 4 all-Irelands in 10 seasons.
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Post by peig on Jun 19, 2007 10:47:37 GMT
Speaking of journalists there were two prime specimens on with Des Cahill on Drivte time; Tommy Carr and Liam Hayes!! Tommy Carr said "we were sure that Dublin were a top 2 or 3 team at this stage" ?? Who have they displaced of Kerry Tyrone and Armagh or what 2 of those teams have they displaced?!! Liam Hayes was talking of the great teams of the last 20 years and included Meath (concidence?) and pointeldy omitted Kerry? His bias is unreal He also made another stupid predicition at in the Tribune at the weekend. He said that Dublin Meath would bury the hurling in viewer figures. The real results came out yesterday and it showed there were a third more watching the hurling. How is this guy getting work? he gets work probably because he's the funniest thing on paper each weekend. i remember being thrilled when he slumped for mayo to beat us in '06. Week after week he gets things arseways but maintains a pious and knowing tone. His article is a guilty sadistic pleasure! He also fails completely to give Kerry any credit whatsoever. He is blind to 4 all-Irelands in 10 seasons. Three words, animal: Nail On Head
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jun 19, 2007 14:56:20 GMT
On news talk yesterday eugene mcgee was talking bout the great teams of the last ten years or fifteen. That they improve in a kinda three year cycle. His 'great' teams were Meath and Tyrone not sure if he threw in armagh
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Post by Walter Mitty on Jun 19, 2007 15:46:25 GMT
In all fairness, a lot of these journalists omit Kerry/talk nonsense just to get a reaction in order to increase their publicity. If Liam Hayes was reading this forum he'd be delighted to realise that people were reading his piece!
By the way, my personal favorite GAA journalist at the moment is Eamonn Sweeney -- back page of the sunday independent
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jun 19, 2007 16:19:24 GMT
Kerry not a great team - ok, now I'm annoyed.
Eugene McGee has never given Kerry any credit - going right back to 1981 and 1982. After beating Kerry in 1982 he assumed a pedestal from which he has never come down - that he is above Kerry football and will always look down rather than up at it.
Liam Hayes not including Kerry goes back to an argument I made last year to some gobsheen on this very site at the time - that Kerry only ever winning soft Irelands is a pile of unmitigated rubbish.
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Post by kerryeye on Jun 19, 2007 16:30:09 GMT
One word to describe all of them----JEALOUS.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 19, 2007 16:31:06 GMT
wooossssh stacks,take it handy,chill out man,let the begrudgers fcuk off.
mcgee has made a full career out off seamus darbys push in the back,let him off.
invite one of the natives into your hammock by the sea for the evening,sip a few coctails and enjoy the fruits for the evening.
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Post by watchdehop on Jun 19, 2007 16:34:21 GMT
Kerry not a great team - ok, now I'm annoyed. Eugene McGee has never given Kerry any credit - going right back to 1981 and 1982. After beating Kerry in 1982 he assumed a pedestal from which he has never come down - that he is above Kerry football and will always look down rather than up at it. Liam Hayes not including Kerry goes back to an argument I made last year to some gobsheen on this very site at the time - that Kerry only ever winning soft Irelands is a pile of unmitigated rubbish. I think I have heard Magee acknowlegde Kerry football more than once but I would say he wouldn't go out of his way to applaud it. Hayes's dislike of Kerry actually leads him into strange places. He actually backed Mayo to beat Kerry last year: who was fooling who with that kind of comment. He did a bad hatchet job in print on Jacko when he was with the Sunday Press. I suppose that was easier than admitting he wouldn't lace Jacko's boots!!
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jun 19, 2007 22:41:59 GMT
Keep up the paranoia lads & lasses, it's all great motivation for the reigning champions.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jun 21, 2007 21:44:05 GMT
Jim Carney and Brian Carthy.....legends
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Post by Aine on Jun 22, 2007 1:04:00 GMT
Keep up the paranoia lads & lasses, it's all great motivation for the reigning champions. But sure don't you know we are only doing it on purpose!!
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Post by micky35 on Aug 2, 2007 1:22:40 GMT
cinnede and fitzmaurice in d examiner are very good. dara has abrillant style of writing.michael moynihan is d most annoying journalist in d paper always talking rubbish and just plain silly articles. he is very much anti kerry in his reports
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Post by gruaigcatach on Aug 2, 2007 11:01:05 GMT
jim o'sullivan from the examiner is one of the poorer journalists covering gaa. otherwise the examiner is excellent for its gaa coverage. probably the best one to get on a monday for the gaa analysis. dont like the independent, that paper generally seems to have an anti gaa agenda, and at every opportunity they seem to want to paint the gaa in a bad light. always big headlines whenever they can 'GAA shame' etc, etc.
tom humphries is very good, and the times on a sunday is very good as well. likewise the tribune.
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Post by Walter Mitty on Aug 2, 2007 21:01:52 GMT
tom humphries is very good, Just after reading Tom Humpries book on the Kerry Dublin rivalry today. It would rise the hairs on the back of your neck no end. What a great book it was and what a fantastic journalist he is!
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