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Post by Mickmack on Jul 27, 2007 7:49:12 GMT
Of the big five ....... Kerry, Cork, Dublin, Tyrone and Meath, only Cork and Meath have experienced fullbacks.
Tyrone have problems at fullback.
Dublin have a new fullback who did well against Meath in both games, did well against Offaly but struggled against Laois.
Meath have Darren Fay who seems as sound as ever
Cork have Graham Canty who is a marvellous footballer although he struggled against Donaghy and probably has not recovered fully from his injury.
Kerry have Tom Sullivan who did well against Cussen for the most part.
Will the full back position decide the destination of SAM in 2007.
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Post by lessbull on Jul 27, 2007 8:25:22 GMT
Does Tom Sullivan not play full back for Rathmore all the time?
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 27, 2007 8:48:05 GMT
surely there is a difference playing full back at inter county level........ Mulligan, Cussen, Keaney, Geraghty etc
I am talking about experience at inter county level.
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Post by Owenabue on Jul 27, 2007 8:51:01 GMT
Canty plays midfield with Bantry, and if Cork could find a full back it would be nice to see him in midfield.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2007 9:01:21 GMT
I would imagine part of the problem teams have at full back is that most inter-county full backs would play out the field at club level and growing up also. Most of them would end up there by necessity.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 27, 2007 10:38:46 GMT
county full backs have become an endangered species over the last few years with the advent of the short ball game and blanket defense,full backs didnt need to be big men.
micheal meehan gave fay plenty of it the last day mickmack in the second half.
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Post by animal on Jul 27, 2007 10:45:09 GMT
maybe rather than looking at other teams' full backs we should be looking at their full forwards. Of what's left Keaney is probably the best in the traditional No. 14 sense (good target man and can take a score). Tyrone are chopping and changing. Therefore I'm not overly concerned about Tom at full back.
the fact that Tyrone are struggling in the full back position is promising considering our full forward is the reigning player of the year.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 27, 2007 10:46:36 GMT
yeah...... but with the big full forward back into vogue will the full back position become critical again.
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Post by animal on Jul 27, 2007 11:18:14 GMT
yeah...... but with the big full forward back into vogue will the full back position become critical again. true enough it will but I honestly don't think there's a whole pile out there that we can't deal with. Deveanny made hay against us in the league alright but championship is different (I hope!  ) |
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Post by Dermot on Jul 27, 2007 12:21:03 GMT
I'd be surprised if Joe McMahon isn't our permanent full back for the duration now !
He played well in 05 when he was there !
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Post by kerryman on Jul 27, 2007 12:32:18 GMT
13 months ago, we didn't know Donaghy would wipe out a number of full backs. Cussen can play ball too and and you can be sure Billy is training him for goal at the moment.
Things could get dangerous there.
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Post by Paulie Walnuts on Jul 27, 2007 13:44:20 GMT
Canty plays midfield with Bantry, and if Cork could find a full back it would be nice to see him in midfield. It crossed my mind earlier in the summer that a direct swap of Kavanagh and Canty might not be a bad thing for Cork. I always get the feeling Canty is a little wasted on the 14 yard line when he could be marauding down the field (much like The Pony in the early 00's). Although not sure how Canty's knee would hold up from the extra jumping, turning, running etc of midfield play after his cruciate troubles. |
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Post by Owenabue on Jul 27, 2007 14:29:20 GMT
Magic, after Kavanagh being moved to full back after Canty being injured, that debate kinda answers its self.
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Post by watchdehop on Jul 27, 2007 14:51:27 GMT
Shanahan the full back on the minors looks a fine prospect
I know he's was moved back from midfield and is still learning his trade. Kerry has tradition of making full backs out of midfielders!!
He seems to be mobile strong and a good pair of hands.
Its early days but thats what a modern full back needs.
It would be great to see the good aerial tussles again like you had between the Bomber and Kevin Kehilly or the Bomber and Gerry Hargan.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 27, 2007 20:46:43 GMT
The Bomber and Gerry Hargan was a bit of a mismatch. I was hanging around Croke Park after the 1984 final. Out come Gerry Hargan with his bag on his back, to be embraced by his lady friend and friends. They then walked away from the battlefield down Clonliffe Road. He had been taken for 5 points by the Bomber ....... but he wasnt the first one or the last one. There was no disgrace in it. Life goes on.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 27, 2007 20:47:20 GMT
What club is Shanahan from. He looks promising.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 27, 2007 21:33:59 GMT
the bomber finished up a very accomplished fullforward,i can see kieran doing the same.
would darragh make a full back for a season,it would be less taxing than midfield.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 28, 2007 10:03:23 GMT
Darragh would be ok at full back against one of the big full forwards....... the small nippy lads would have to get a clatter though.
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Post by kerryeye on Jul 28, 2007 10:09:56 GMT
What club is Shanahan from. He looks promising. Shanahan is from Stacks,looks very promising alright,think he'll have to be brought to midfield for the minors though,he's under age next year again. |
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Post by kerry07 on Aug 1, 2007 23:44:44 GMT
Mickmack if a clatter works then we should build it into our coaching straight away before our next outing. Do you think we could teach Tom how to clatter  ?? Would it add the missing dimension to his game ? |
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Post by micky35 on Aug 2, 2007 0:05:56 GMT
would marc be a better full back than tom remember d league last year when mike mac was injured. he done very weel even when wee met galway in d league final.something to dwell on perhaps
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Post by Piggy on Aug 2, 2007 15:01:53 GMT
Liam Keane from listowel is a very good full back
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Post by sullyschoice on Aug 2, 2007 22:03:18 GMT
Ask Fionnan Murray can Tom O Sullivan clatter
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Aug 3, 2007 0:14:26 GMT
The Bomber and Gerry Hargan was a bit of a mismatch. I was hanging around Croke Park after the 1984 final. Out come Gerry Hargan with his bag on his back, to be embraced by his lady friend and friends. They then walked away from the battlefield down Clonliffe Road. He had been taken for 5 points by the Bomber ....... but he wasnt the first one or the last one. There was no disgrace in it. Life goes on. It was one of his few bad days. The lads never really got going that day, the centenary final deserved a classic, and after Barney's goal, it should have gone the way of the 85 final, but they were left flat by a hungrier, more focused Kerry. The aftermath of 83 took its toll. Gerry was one of a line of great Ballymun full-backs, broken when Paddy Christ's career came to a premature end. I think the fB position is still crucial, if he doesnt do his job, he not only disrupts/weakens the back lines overall, he also undermines the goaly |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 6, 2007 15:49:44 GMT
Well lads and lassies......... the ould full back spot is still crucil.
Joe McBride is not a full back. Darren Fay is.
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Post by Piggy on Aug 7, 2007 15:10:24 GMT
with the way teams are deploying a target man in full forward these day the full back position is more important than ever
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Post by indigo5 on Aug 7, 2007 19:39:29 GMT
theres not much left in the AI that'll trouble us in the full back position, including Keaney, (who i'm not convinced of, liable to miss sitters as well!) all presuming that Bradley and co lose.... Monaghans new 14 wont cause trouble, our lads are well used to playing against better in training... While ORourke looks like he will be a stalwart in the future, obviously Meaths strengths are in the corners...
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 11, 2007 17:34:44 GMT
McCloy is a full back. McConnell isnt .
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Aug 12, 2007 8:36:40 GMT
McConnell's tendency is to go up the field far too much. Also he is not commanding/marshalling his troops, this I feel is the source of alot of problems for the Dubs' back-lines. Last year & 2 years ago the loss of Paddy Christie has weakened them very badly
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 12, 2007 22:29:11 GMT
Four fullbacks left standing...........
Darren Fay...... Graham Canty.........Tom Sullivan....... Ross McConnell...........
Will the number 3 position decide the destination of SAM in 2007.
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?? Would it add the missing dimension to his game ?
