Bookies STILL Believe In Kerry

[neil]

Question, how bad do Kerry have to get before we get realistic odds on them winning the AI? Even AFTER todays performance Paddy Power see fit to price them at 11/4. Meanwhile Cork are 8/1. Am i missing something here? I wish I had the same faith in this Kerry team as the bookies.

[seamus]

Makes no sense. Especially as we have to get over Longford, Armagh and Cork/probably Donegal to make a final. Even then it looks like it would be against the on form Dubs.

On that note i think the dubs got a bad run of the green yesterday. Galway should take Westmeath and will then be a good test for the dubs in the q-final. I think they would have preferred Mayo.
What odds are the Dubs?

[Owenabue]

Dublin 2/1, Armagh 5/2, Kerry 3/1 and Cork 7/1. It is funny really.

[seamus]

BOYLE SPORTS


All Ireland Football Championship 2006 24 Jun 15:30 - Outright Betting
EW: 1/3 1,2
Selection Price
Dublin 2/1
Armagh 5/2
Kerry 3/1
Cork 7/1
Mayo 11/1
Laois 16/1
Galway 25/1
Donegal 50/1
Offaly 66/1
Fermanagh 80/1
Westmeath 150/1
Longford 150/1

[Jo90]

neil said:

Bookies STILL Believe In Kerry.

I still believe in Kerry as well.
Call me a fool but I believe Kerry will win the All-Ireland this year.
It's going to take a lot of hard work in training, a lot of improvement by a lot of players, some brave decisions by Jack O'Connor and the selectors and perhaps a slice of luck but I believe we've the players to do it.
Only Tyrone have beaten Kerry in Croke Park in the last 3 years and no other team has even come close.
WE'RE GOING TO DO IT!

[seamus]

We will be a different team when/if we get to croker. it brings out the best in us. But we need our big guns firing and a new full forward line. Anyone think Mike Frank should start? !!!!!!!!!!!!

[RashersTierney]

>:(Crazy to have us favourites based only on Leinster!
Armagh should be favourites, Kerry & Dubs about equal. We all know its only reaction to the latest games, and if polls were taken, a small majority would favour Armagh.
I have feared Mayo more than Galway all along, but Galway wont fear us.
My bets for the next two rounds are:

Galway to beat Westmeath (lucky home draw there btw!)
Kerry to beat Longford (poor Kingdom, havent played well in Killarney since the Laois game!)
Laois to beat OohFaile
Donegal, maybe, to beat Fermagh.

Then:

Donegal to beat Cork
Kerry to beat Armagh
Dublin to beat Galway
Mayo to beat Laois

[twohands]

Ah yes, Cork just making up the numbers. Just along for the ride really. Don't get to see enough of Croke Park so it'll be good to get a day trip to look at those medal collections in the museum.

[watchdahop]

Two hands you should get a few quid down on Cork: the softest money ye might ever make!!

Can't understand why the price is so high given all the money the Cork fellow are putting on themselves!!

[RashersTierney]

twohands said:

Ah yes, Cork just making up the numbers. Just along for the ride really. Don't get to see enough of Croke Park so it'll be good to get a day trip to look at those medal collections in the museum.

:oJaysus, are Cork still in it?
In fairness, very consistent in the last few years, always have plenty of talented players, but havent looked like going beyond the quarters. Just like Dublin really!
Ulster seems to be on a bit of a downer this year so maybe Cork will do it. Whoever you get from Fermagh/Donegal it'll be a ding-dong battle, toss of a coin really. We might not learn alot from the match in 2 weeks. Oh and Twohands, I predicted Cork would win Munster since the League, so I'm not ignoring yis at all!

[Mickmack]

If dublin dont wiin it this year.....armagh will.

i would tip armagh in the event of a dublin-armagh final

[twohands]

bigal said:

[ Oh and Twohands, I predicted Cork would win Munster since the League, so I'm not ignoring yis at all!

So that wasn't you then on the thread about the replay last week who said "for Kerry in particular there's an acute need to time their effort to peak in the final games. Of course they have to get there first, but lets be honest, its highly unlikely they will lose to Cork,.."?

[Jo90]

Remember at this stage of the World Cup, going by the form up until then the World Cup final was looking like it'd be between Argentina and Spain. For Argentina and Spain, read Armagh and Dublin. Cork can be England. Kerry can be Italy.

[twohands]

jo90 said:

Cork can be England. Ireland can be Italy.

Interesting one Jo. Seems like you've interchanged Kerry with Ireland. On that basis, and on the basis that Cork are England it looks like we are in for 800 years of domination over ye. Good old King Billy.

[Mickmack]

now that cork have beaten kerry......will they drive on will they simply be happy with that.

when was the last time cork performed well outside of cork or killarney?

For a county with the club set up that cork have as well as the population, they are serious underachievers in football.

Why havent they won as much in football as in hurling. They have three times the number of football only clubs that kerry have ...............plus Frank Murphy........

[Jo90]

mickmack said:

Why havent they won as much in football as in hurling.

Because hurling is a doddle to win. Look at it this year - Wexford, Offaly and Limerick have left the elite making it effectively a 6 team championship. If football was like that Kerry would have won 50 All-Irelands!
Look at this year's football championship - you've Derry beating the All-Ireland champions and then Longford, a team ranked about 20th in Ireland, beating Derry. That's like in hurling Limerick beating Cork and Roscommon beating Limerick i.e. something with no chance of happening.
Imagine if Cork footballers had similiarly easy opposition i.e. no Kerry, 1 team in Connaught, no Ulster and just 3 teams in Leinster. Sounds pretty easy doesn't it.

[twohands]

Jo90, if Kerry had the same competition on their way to All Irelands that Cork hurlers have had down through the years it would be interesting to count how many medals there would be in the Kingdom. If Cork win an All Ireland hurling final this year they will have beaten Clare, Tipp, Limerick, probably Clare again and probably one of Kilkenny or Galway. On another thread ye're talking about Kerry winning an All Ireland by beating Tipp and Waterford, losing to Cork, beating Longford, an ageing Armagh and possibly an over-hyped Dublin. I know which feat would rank higher in my book.

[KevinT]

You forgot to mention beating Cork again in the semi-final there TwoHands.

[Jo90]

twohands said:

Jo90, if Kerry had the same competition on their way to All Irelands that Cork hurlers have had down through the years it would be interesting to count how many medals there would be in the Kingdom. If Cork win an All Ireland hurling final this year they will have beaten Clare, Tipp, Limerick, probably Clare again and probably one of Kilkenny or Galway. On another thread ye're talking about Kerry winning an All Ireland by beating Tipp and Waterford, losing to Cork, beating Longford, an ageing Armagh and possibly an over-hyped Dublin. I know which feat would rank higher in my book.

So Cork's opponents would be a geriatric team, a one man team, a team at an all-time low, a geriatric team that are now even older and then either a team in transition with a rubbish defense or a County where hurling is played by a small minority.
If Cork win the football All-Ireland having beaten Limerick, Kerry, Donegal, Armagh and Dublin, I would consider that a far better achievement.

[RashersTierney]

twohands said:

bigal said:

[ Oh and Twohands, I predicted Cork would win Munster since the League, so I'm not ignoring yis at all!

So that wasn't you then on the thread about the replay last week who said "for Kerry in particular there's an acute need to time their effort to peak in the final games. Of course they have to get there first, but lets be honest, its highly unlikely they will lose to Cork,.."?

:-[Touche! But in case you didnt notice, what I said was I predicted them to win since early in the year, and before the drawn game. But yes, I have to admit I wavered before the replay, I thought it would be very close again but Kerry to sneak it, so cut me some slack Ambidexterous pedantic Rebel! "I mean, throw me a fricking bone here!"

[RashersTierney]

jo90 said:

Remember at this stage of the World Cup, going by the form up until then the World Cup final was looking like it'd be between Argentina and Spain. For Argentina and Spain, read Armagh and Dublin. Cork can be England. Kerry can be Italy.

8-)Jaysus, I wish we WERE Spain! Pity the food and wine are about 3 times as expensive Its certainly hot enough anyway. I walked a few miles across the Curragh today and I think my shoes melted. I could hear loads of explosions nearby, either the Kildare fans had spotted me or Hizbollah have found the range with their missiles
I think the Dubs are more like France, brilliant, blue, and (head)butting!
Kerry are like Germany, always winning lots, but pretending they havent got a hope til they after they win the final
Mayo, of course, are Brazil.
Cork are like Holland - contrary, noisy, lots of in-fighting and terrible glare from all those shirts...........

[kerrygold]

jo90 said:

twohands said:

Jo90, if Kerry had the same competition on their way to All Irelands that Cork hurlers have had down through the years it would be interesting to count how many medals there would be in the Kingdom. If Cork win an All Ireland hurling final this year they will have beaten Clare, Tipp, Limerick, probably Clare again and probably one of Kilkenny or Galway. On another thread ye're talking about Kerry winning an All Ireland by beating Tipp and Waterford, losing to Cork, beating Longford, an ageing Armagh and possibly an over-hyped Dublin. I know which feat would rank higher in my book.

So Cork's opponents would be a geriatric team, a one man team, a team at an all-time low, a geriatric team that are now even older and then either a team in transition with a rubbish defense or a County where hurling is played by a small minority.
If Cork win the football All-Ireland having beaten Limerick, Kerry, Donegal, Armagh and Dublin, I would consider that a far better achievement.

good post jo90,only thing cork have no chance of winning the all-ireland football championship,i'd give a salmom a better chance of swimming backwards up a weir with its gills tied to its side and its tail riddled with arteritis.

[austinstacksabu]

Welcome to the ton club KG - the rarified air will help you consider some loftier notions about Kerry GAA!

[kerrygold]

austinstacksabu said:

Welcome to the ton club KG - the rarified air will help you consider some loftier notions about Kerry GAA!

thanks stacks,its always nice to be recognised by a respected living legend of an established institution.

[Hoffster]

Congrats KG.

I've just realised that Kerry are a shoe in to beat Longford and then Armagh in Croke Park.Why???
Because I'm going to miss the Armagh game due to my bloody holidays.I haven't missed a Kerry game in Croke park since 1997(Cavan) and due to the fact that we owe Armagh for 02 we're guaranteed to win cos I won't be there.Not that i'm a magpie.It would be just my luck to miss out on a game that could define our season.
or I could be full of S##t and am going demented from the heat.

[twohands]

kerrygold said:

good post jo90,only thing cork have no chance of winning the all-ireland football championship,i'd give a salmom a better chance of swimming backwards up a weir with its gills tied to its side and its tail riddled with arteritis.

Why would we be messing around going backwards in the weir when we're heading straight upstream swimming with the big fish? When ye are finished with Longford come back and talk to us and we'll see how the pain in ye're tail is then.

[ciarrai33]

I think the bookies are being really stingy not giving Kerry greater odds to win the All ireland. Sure how will i offset the expense of an all ireland weekend now???
On an optamistic note, i do think that now that Kerry have a timeline and a Goal in place, (and surly underdogs for the first time in years) then maybe things will pick up. The scoreline against Longford is not impoarant next week, its wheather they play with that spark that was missing in all the munster matches.
The Goal for the year has to be putting in a good performance against Armagh

[Alan]

In terms of bets the best one of the summer was Cork to beat Kerry in the replay at odds of 4/1.
My mrs is a Cork woman so I told her to back them (can't back against your own team) - nice to take money off a bookie even if the result is not what you wanted!