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Post by patshamrock on Aug 15, 2023 15:14:29 GMT
Kerry dual player Rob Monahan set to join Melbourne AFL club Carlton Monahan, who plays football with Ardfert and hurling with Kilmoyley, is set to head to Australia in late October or early November. Kerry dual player Rob Monahan set to join Melbourne AFL club Carlton AUSSIE RULESl Rob Monahan of Kerry in action. Photo by Tom Beary/Sportsfile MON, 14 AUG, 2023 - 17:06 MURT MURPHY Social share One of Kerry’s most precocious dual players Rob Monahan is on the cusp of signing a two year contract with Melbourne AFL club Carlton. Monahan, who plays football with Ardfert and hurling with Kilmoyley, is set to head Down Under in late October or early November to join up with his new teammates in the Australian Football League. Monahan was a member of Tomas O Se’s Kerry U-20 squad this year and he was also wanted by the Kerry U-20 Hurling management as he is an accomplished hurler with Kilmoyley. He would also be viewed a certainty to get a call up to the Kerry senior squad as he is a midfielder/wing forward which are two areas that Jack O’Connor needs to bolster. Monahan played with Ardfert on Saturday night in the Kerry Junior Premier club championship, which his side lost narrowly to Firies, while he also played with Kilmoyley in senior hurling championship but they lost out in the semi-final to eventual winners Crotta O’Neills. The dual star was a huge performer for Mercy Mounthawk in the Corn Ui Mhuiri over the past two seasons and is currently awaiting the results of his Leaving Cert exams. In recent time he was in Dublin on four occasions being assessed at AFL kicking sessions and went through various tests that included, running, vertical jump, 20-metre spring, agility test and 2km time trial. AUSSIE RULES: Mercy Mounthawk's Rob Monahan and Daniel Kirby with St. Brendan's Cian Lynch and Timmy Moynihan go for the ball. Photo: Don MacMonagle AUSSIE RULES: Mercy Mounthawk's Rob Monahan and Daniel Kirby with St. Brendan's Cian Lynch and Timmy Moynihan go for the ball. Photo: Don MacMonagle It is believed he impressed the Carton Blues with his athleticism, kicking ability with both feet and his overall interest in the AFL. He traveled from Kerry during the summer months before his final trial took place two weeks ago at the beginning of August, after which the offer of a two year contract was put on the table before him. While Monahan was not available for comment, sources within the Ardfert club indicated that Rob may travel to Melbourne in September for two weeks to sign the contract and to see the club facilities before he makes the move in either October or November to pursue a professional career in AFL. Should he complete the move, he will join 11 other Irish players currently playing in the AFL which include former Kerry minor star Mark O’Connor. It is also known that three other Kerry players have attracted the interest of AFL scouts, and they include Cillian Burke (Milltown/Castlemaine), Will Shine (Killarney Legion) and Darragh Lyne (Killarney Legion). As of yet there are no indications that any of the three wish to travel to Australia nor have they been offered a contract. "He would also be viewed a certainty to get a call up to the Kerry senior squad as he is a midfielder/wing forward which are two areas that Jack O’Connor needs to bolster." I'm not sure Rob Monahan, or anyone here thinks that he'll make it through to the Kerry senior team next year. He'd have to be putting in spectacular performances to push an established player out of the team. If any young lad gets a chance of a wing forward position in the league and can score from there, he might have a good chance of holding onto his spot for the year. |
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Post by orangerhyme on Aug 15, 2023 16:39:28 GMT
Kerry dual player Rob Monahan set to join Melbourne AFL club Carlton Monahan, who plays football with Ardfert and hurling with Kilmoyley, is set to head to Australia in late October or early November. Kerry dual player Rob Monahan set to join Melbourne AFL club Carlton AUSSIE RULESl Rob Monahan of Kerry in action. Photo by Tom Beary/Sportsfile MON, 14 AUG, 2023 - 17:06 MURT MURPHY Social share One of Kerry’s most precocious dual players Rob Monahan is on the cusp of signing a two year contract with Melbourne AFL club Carlton. Monahan, who plays football with Ardfert and hurling with Kilmoyley, is set to head Down Under in late October or early November to join up with his new teammates in the Australian Football League. Monahan was a member of Tomas O Se’s Kerry U-20 squad this year and he was also wanted by the Kerry U-20 Hurling management as he is an accomplished hurler with Kilmoyley. He would also be viewed a certainty to get a call up to the Kerry senior squad as he is a midfielder/wing forward which are two areas that Jack O’Connor needs to bolster. Monahan played with Ardfert on Saturday night in the Kerry Junior Premier club championship, which his side lost narrowly to Firies, while he also played with Kilmoyley in senior hurling championship but they lost out in the semi-final to eventual winners Crotta O’Neills. The dual star was a huge performer for Mercy Mounthawk in the Corn Ui Mhuiri over the past two seasons and is currently awaiting the results of his Leaving Cert exams. In recent time he was in Dublin on four occasions being assessed at AFL kicking sessions and went through various tests that included, running, vertical jump, 20-metre spring, agility test and 2km time trial. AUSSIE RULES: Mercy Mounthawk's Rob Monahan and Daniel Kirby with St. Brendan's Cian Lynch and Timmy Moynihan go for the ball. Photo: Don MacMonagle AUSSIE RULES: Mercy Mounthawk's Rob Monahan and Daniel Kirby with St. Brendan's Cian Lynch and Timmy Moynihan go for the ball. Photo: Don MacMonagle It is believed he impressed the Carton Blues with his athleticism, kicking ability with both feet and his overall interest in the AFL. He traveled from Kerry during the summer months before his final trial took place two weeks ago at the beginning of August, after which the offer of a two year contract was put on the table before him. While Monahan was not available for comment, sources within the Ardfert club indicated that Rob may travel to Melbourne in September for two weeks to sign the contract and to see the club facilities before he makes the move in either October or November to pursue a professional career in AFL. Should he complete the move, he will join 11 other Irish players currently playing in the AFL which include former Kerry minor star Mark O’Connor. It is also known that three other Kerry players have attracted the interest of AFL scouts, and they include Cillian Burke (Milltown/Castlemaine), Will Shine (Killarney Legion) and Darragh Lyne (Killarney Legion). As of yet there are no indications that any of the three wish to travel to Australia nor have they been offered a contract. "He would also be viewed a certainty to get a call up to the Kerry senior squad as he is a midfielder/wing forward which are two areas that Jack O’Connor needs to bolster." I'm not sure Rob Monahan, or anyone here thinks that he'll make it through to the Kerry senior team next year. He'd have to be putting in spectacular performances to push an established player out of the team. If he's good enough, he's old enough. Lots of players break into the team at 19/20. It pushes established players also if they know there's realistic competition for their place. |
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Post by peanuts on Aug 15, 2023 20:22:21 GMT
"He would also be viewed a certainty to get a call up to the Kerry senior squad as he is a midfielder/wing forward which are two areas that Jack O’Connor needs to bolster." I'm not sure Rob Monahan, or anyone here thinks that he'll make it through to the Kerry senior team next year. He'd have to be putting in spectacular performances to push an established player out of the team. If any young lad gets a chance of a wing forward position in the league and can score from there, he might have a good chance of holding onto his spot for the year. These days scoring is of secondary importance for a wing forward. |
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Post by jrmanula on Aug 15, 2023 21:17:18 GMT
Irish teams going on their "jollies" to Australia to play compromise rules has come back to bite the GAA.
They started swimming with sharks.
A lot of counties have been affected, looking for fast athletic skillful players.
I spent 6 weeks on holiday in Melbourne and went to a lot of games in MCG , very impressive,104 k capacity and only about 15 euro to get in for a senior citizen, cash taken no bulll* on line purchase only.
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Post by givehimaball on Aug 16, 2023 9:45:11 GMT
"He would also be viewed a certainty to get a call up to the Kerry senior squad as he is a midfielder/wing forward which are two areas that Jack O’Connor needs to bolster." I'm not sure Rob Monahan, or anyone here thinks that he'll make it through to the Kerry senior team next year. He'd have to be putting in spectacular performances to push an established player out of the team. If he's good enough, he's old enough. Lots of players break into the team at 19/20. It pushes established players also if they know there's realistic competition for their place. Have to take issue with the statement that lots of players break into intercounty teams at 19/20. It's clearly not true nowadays of any of the top intercounty teams. You just have to look at the candidates for the Young Player of the Year over the last decade and see how weak the level of competition was in terms of the nominations because of the lack of eligible players. I'm not sure but I think the eligible age was raised from U21 to U23 because of the how few players U21 were getting any signigicant playing time in the championship. If it wasn't raised, I know there were discussions about it anyway. Look at the top contenders over the last few years and see how little championship game time any U20s have played. Strength and conditioning is such an important factor that unless the player is a very early developer that it's just not realistic for a 19/20 to establish themselves on a serious intercounty team. Most of the time the lads with potential will be brought around the team to make up the numbers to give them time to physically mature. |
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 16, 2023 11:25:34 GMT
Would agree that very few lads that are U20 eligible are real contenders on the senior team for top ranked counties - particularly in football. There seems to be more in hurling which is strange given the perception that hurling is more physical. Is skill a bigger factor in hurling?
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Post by tpo on Aug 16, 2023 11:48:50 GMT
Derry fulback McEvoy only 19 ?
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Post by orangerhyme on Aug 16, 2023 12:14:30 GMT
If he's good enough, he's old enough. Lots of players break into the team at 19/20. It pushes established players also if they know there's realistic competition for their place. Have to take issue with the statement that lots of players break into intercounty teams at 19/20. It's clearly not true nowadays of any of the top intercounty teams. You just have to look at the candidates for the Young Player of the Year over the last decade and see how weak the level of competition was in terms of the nominations because of the lack of eligible players. I'm not sure but I think the eligible age was raised from U21 to U23 because of the how few players U21 were getting any signigicant playing time in the championship. If it wasn't raised, I know there were discussions about it anyway. Look at the top contenders over the last few years and see how little championship game time any U20s have played. Strength and conditioning is such an important factor that unless the player is a very early developer that it's just not realistic for a 19/20 to establish themselves on a serious intercounty team. Most of the time the lads with potential will be brought around the team to make up the numbers to give them time to physically mature. Diarmuid O'Connor, David Clifford, Sean O'Shea, Brian Begley, Jason Foley, Tom Sullivan, Gavin White, Dara Moynihan. Graham O'Sullivan. All had played senior championship games for us by age 21. I'm sure I'm missing a few. Derry, Mayo, Tyrone, Galway, Cork, Dublin etc all have players aged 19,20, 21. I'm not saying they have to start but lots of players at 19/20 are good enough to contribute off the bench. |
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Post by peanuts on Aug 16, 2023 12:37:16 GMT
Diarmuid O’Connor and David Clifford both missed out on U20s and started in an AIF while still U20. Sean O’Shea also missed out on playing for u20s. David missed out 2 years.
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Post by pintpleasejohn on Aug 16, 2023 16:38:45 GMT
From the 5/6 games I watched on clubber the weekend the following showed well and stood out to me as potential ones to watch in terms of pushing for a place on the panel come the league in Jan/Feb
Mark Ryan
Cathal Ryan
Alan dinneen
Andrew Moynihan
David shaw
Mark shea
Devon burns
Kevin sullivan
Damien bourke
Evan cronin
Shane cronin
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Post by orangerhyme on Aug 16, 2023 18:51:03 GMT
From the 5/6 games I watched on clubber the weekend the following showed well and stood out to me as potential ones to watch in terms of pushing for a place on the panel come the league in Jan/Feb Mark Ryan Cathal Ryan Alan dinneen Andrew Moynihan David shaw Mark shea Devon burns Kevin sullivan Damien bourke Evan cronin Shane cronin Does Andrew Moynihan look quality? He's obviously young |
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Post by horsebox77 on Aug 16, 2023 21:15:12 GMT
From the 5/6 games I watched on clubber the weekend the following showed well and stood out to me as potential ones to watch in terms of pushing for a place on the panel come the league in Jan/Feb Mark Ryan Cathal Ryan Alan dinneen Andrew Moynihan David shaw Mark shea Devon burns Kevin sullivan Damien bourke Evan cronin Shane cronin Does Andrew Moynihan look quality? He's obviously young He's an imposing unit at full back, a balling full back but plays midfield for seniors. |
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Post by orangerhyme on Aug 16, 2023 22:07:51 GMT
Does Andrew Moynihan look quality? He's obviously young He's an imposing unit at full back, a balling full back but plays midfield for seniors. Our backs are strong at the moment but it's always good to have options and subs putting genuine pressure on starters. Starters should be looking over their shoulder. It's a shame about Rob Monahan. I wish him the best but at the same time I wouldn't mind seeing him back home in 2 years uninjured. |
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Post by statistician on Aug 17, 2023 0:54:54 GMT
But he has the best interests of Kerry at heart and he might be making a comeback next year unless the Sydney Swans give him a big pay bump Schure begorrah Tadhg does a great jig and can do no wrong.... this will be great copy for his next book. Tadhg Kennelly had absolutely nothing to do with this move…so you should retract your statement. |
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Post by statistician on Aug 17, 2023 0:59:16 GMT
Schure begorrah Tadhg does a great jig and can do no wrong.... this will be great copy for his next book. A half forward who started a handful of games and wouldn’t lace the boots of Dec, Galvin or Donnacha stealing all the attention for himself? Self centred nonsense What an embarrassing statement? Some dig considering he hadn’t anything at all to do with the move. I’m sure you were very appreciative of 0-02 in the 2009 Final and his total of of 0-08 from play in that years championship…considering he was out injured for some of it. |
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 17, 2023 8:05:58 GMT
Diarmuid O’Connor and David Clifford both missed out on U20s and started in an AIF while still U20. Sean O’Shea also missed out on playing for u20s. David missed out 2 years. Sean o Shea played U21 in 2017 and won a Munster championship. I'm pretty sure Diarmuid O Connor also played U20 in 2018 I think. |
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 17, 2023 8:07:54 GMT
Schure begorrah Tadhg does a great jig and can do no wrong.... this will be great copy for his next book. Tadhg Kennelly had absolutely nothing to do with this move…so you should retract your statement. Do you know that for a fact? |
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 17, 2023 8:12:50 GMT
A half forward who started a handful of games and wouldn’t lace the boots of Dec, Galvin or Donnacha stealing all the attention for himself? Self centred nonsense What an embarrassing statement? Some dig considering he hadn’t anything at all to do with the move. I’m sure you were very appreciative of 0-02 in the 2009 Final and his total of of 0-08 from play in that years championship…considering he was out injured for some of it. Kennelly played a role in 2009 there's no doubt about it. However imo the role he played is overhyped. Despite what you may think he used Kerry to his own benefit for a long time. Every time he wanted a new contract he'd say he wanted to come back to play with Kerry. When he did eventually come back he was gone ASAP. Kennelly has always looked out for himself and no one else. |
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Post by peanuts on Aug 17, 2023 19:19:30 GMT
Diarmuid O’Connor and David Clifford both missed out on U20s and started in an AIF while still U20. Sean O’Shea also missed out on playing for u20s. David missed out 2 years. Sean o Shea played U21 in 2017 and won a Munster championship. I'm pretty sure Diarmuid O Connor also played U20 in 2018 I think. Poorly worded by me . Seanie missed out on U20s in 2018 and Diarmuid did in 2019. I didn’t mean to suggest they never played u20/u21 which was the case with David. |
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 17, 2023 20:45:40 GMT
Sean o Shea played U21 in 2017 and won a Munster championship. I'm pretty sure Diarmuid O Connor also played U20 in 2018 I think. Poorly worded by me . Seanie missed out on U20s in 2018 and Diarmuid did in 2019. I didn’t mean to suggest they never played u20/u21 which was the case with David. It definitely cost Kerry an All-Ireland in 2018 imo. |
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Post by homerj on Aug 17, 2023 21:46:16 GMT
What an embarrassing statement? Some dig considering he hadn’t anything at all to do with the move. I’m sure you were very appreciative of 0-02 in the 2009 Final and his total of of 0-08 from play in that years championship…considering he was out injured for some of it. Kennelly played a role in 2009 there's no doubt about it. However imo the role he played is overhyped. Despite what you may think he used Kerry to his own benefit for a long time. Every time he wanted a new contract he'd say he wanted to come back to play with Kerry. When he did eventually come back he was gone ASAP. Kennelly has always looked out for himself and no one else. Tadhg got an all star in 2009 and was man of match in semi final and played superbly in the final. the obsession with him on this place is fierce childish at times, he gets blamed for everything. the players would be going to australia with or without him involved...who took him over? all the lads that went before and during his playing time there and so on.... |
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Post by peanuts on Aug 17, 2023 22:49:34 GMT
Poorly worded by me . Seanie missed out on U20s in 2018 and Diarmuid did in 2019. I didn’t mean to suggest they never played u20/u21 which was the case with David. It definitely cost Kerry an All-Ireland in 2018 imo. Definitely. Probably in 2019 as well |
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 18, 2023 8:51:05 GMT
Kennelly played a role in 2009 there's no doubt about it. However imo the role he played is overhyped. Despite what you may think he used Kerry to his own benefit for a long time. Every time he wanted a new contract he'd say he wanted to come back to play with Kerry. When he did eventually come back he was gone ASAP. Kennelly has always looked out for himself and no one else. Tadhg got an all star in 2009 and was man of match in semi final and played superbly in the final. the obsession with him on this place is fierce childish at times, he gets blamed for everything. the players would be going to australia with or without him involved...who took him over? all the lads that went before and during his playing time there and so on.... As I said yes he played a role in it, but some will try and make you believe he was the sole reason Kerry win in 09. Do you really believe that he's playing no role in the players who are going to Australia? |
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Post by diego on Aug 18, 2023 11:14:05 GMT
Tadhg got an all star in 2009 and was man of match in semi final and played superbly in the final. the obsession with him on this place is fierce childish at times, he gets blamed for everything. the players would be going to australia with or without him involved...who took him over? all the lads that went before and during his playing time there and so on.... As I said yes he played a role in it, but some will try and make you believe he was the sole reason Kerry win in 09. Do you really believe that he's playing no role in the players who are going to Australia? He's a coach at GWS for a start. Why would he be poaching players for Carlton? |
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Post by The16thMan on Sept 25, 2023 18:07:25 GMT
Report coming that Paddy Tally is to stay with Kerry in 2024. Good news but hopefully Kerry tweak the defence some bit for next year as it seems like Kerry were found out a bit at times by our opposition. At the same time, it's good news in my opinion that he is staying on.
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Post by thehermit on Sept 26, 2023 9:13:40 GMT
Yeah very happy that Tally is staying obviously they all feel this group has more to achieve after such a near miss this year!
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Post by dano on Sept 26, 2023 17:17:43 GMT
Yes I Agree. Kerry were right there this year. Kick of a ball between a cup and none. I thinks Michael Fitzimons playacting with the umpire was a huge one Gough got wrong. The Dubs took advantage of a wet ball slipup ( there were many others throughout the game). These two incidents stood between winning and losing the AI. We are better than being neck and neck with them in Injury Time, and , on another day, with all systems firing as normal, Kerry would've been out the gate by the time Dublin got their goal. I know this is Shoulda, woulda, coulda but I'm trying to gear myself up for the League. A few promising returns from injuries are also giving hope. Funny enough the thing that Irks me the most about our Summer is the loss to Mayo in Killarney. It didn't seem like much at the time as there was still hope for glory but the sight of them punching the air in our fortress in Killarney really bothered me. Childish perhaps.
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Post by orangerhyme on Sept 26, 2023 20:04:41 GMT
Yeah very happy that Tally is staying obviously they all feel this group has more to achieve after such a near miss this year! Does anyone know how Paddy Tally handles the long distance? I know he's on a sabbatical but it's a 5 hour drive. Does he do just one session a week for example and help organise the other sessions from afar? |
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Post by horsebox77 on Sept 26, 2023 21:00:51 GMT
Yeah very happy that Tally is staying obviously they all feel this group has more to achieve after such a near miss this year! Does anyone know how Paddy Tally handles the long distance? I know he's on a sabbatical but it's a 5 hour drive. Does he do just one session a week for example and help organise the other sessions from afar? Don't know,but one would envisage that commute isn't tenable. On another note, what mew players are putting the hands up for a McGrath Cup or early league panel? |
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Post by The16thMan on Sept 26, 2023 21:36:09 GMT
Murphy & Quirke to stay on as well as Paddy Tally. As it stands it will be the same management setup for the next 2 years as it was the previous 2. Probably a good thing as I don't think this Kerry team have peaked under this management yet. I can see the League in 2024 being a priority for Kerry
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