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Post by Mickmack on Jun 28, 2022 6:41:05 GMT
I see the Armagh player involved in the eye gouging has made contact with Galway and apologised. More than a certain Dublin man did in 15 after AI final v Donaghy. And not a peep out of the Dublin Management about it either at the time.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 28, 2022 7:07:43 GMT
You encourage a culture like that and you end up with constant rows and eye gouging In todays paper Colm Keys says a Galway player started the melee. Awkward fact for those trying to blame Armagh management and KD. Both teams went at it then.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 28, 2022 7:56:07 GMT
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 28, 2022 8:17:14 GMT
All the focus is on the melee. I agree that was despicable and must be severely dealt with, but before that, I thought what Armagh did during the game was equally despicable. This seems to be ignored in all the furore. Well at least one agrees with me.
Joe Brolly: Croke Park eye-gouger will get a year’s ban but GAA must take action on ‘out of control’ Armagh
‘The most disappointing thing is the number of occasions when you could clearly see an Armagh player setting out to injure an opponent’ – Indo Daily podcast
Joe Brolly says the Armagh apparent eye-gouger will be banned for at least a year, but the GAA needs to investigate "deliberate assaults” on Galway players during the game. The Gaelic football analyst and All-Ireland winner with Derry told on The Indo Daily podcast on Independent.ie there is a “venom” in the way some, not all, of the Armagh players behave.
"They are out of control and it is only a matter of time before someone gets very seriously injured,” he says. "This was deliberate goading, deliberate assaults during the course of the game, way beyond what is acceptable. I invite the GAA to look at all the camera footage. They should be asking RTÉ for all of the camera footage, because a lot was missed yesterday. It’s not good enough,” he says.
Armagh forward Tiernan Kelly has been identified as the player whose fingers make contact with Galway forward Damien Comer’s eye during a melee at the end of their All-Ireland football quarter-final on Sunday. But Brolly says there is a wider issue about Armagh. He says it is no coincidence that this was the third on-field fracas involving Armagh this season.
"There is, unfortunately, a culture within this Armagh squad and it’s difficult to know if it is encouraged, but it is certainly being tolerated. This is the third time this season. And the most disappointing thing about yesterday’s game is the number of occasions when you could clearly see an Armagh player setting out to injure an opponent,” he says.
Brolly says the eye-gouging will be punished but that Armagh must also be reprimanded for a series of incidents and the focus must be on the culture. "The eye-gouger, no doubt, will get 12 months as a minimum, I would have thought. Possibly longer than that. It is a scandal to see that in our games, deeply depressing, you know Armagh is a great football county, with a great tradition,” he says.
"I come back to the point: there was no harder team than the team that Kieran McGeeney captained to the All-Ireland in 2002 and that’s how you play Gaelic football – not how the current Armagh team plays. That is the third riot on the pitch that there has been associated with their games and it is not a coincidence.”
Brolly said Galway captain Seán Kelly, who was sent off after the fracas, clearly only got involved to call out the eye-gouging by the Armagh player. However, he says the sending off was unjustified. "I thought their behaviour was way outside the GAA contract, that we are all in this together, that we have respect for each other,” he added. Brolly also dismissed excuses being put forward, such as the players leaving the pitch and heading to the tunnel at the same time. “What’s next? We’ll have Garda horse patrols segregating the teams at half-time. We’ll segregate them in blocks in the stands. We’ll tear apart the essence of the GAA, which is that we are all travelling the same road together as neighbours and friends and sporting rivals. What’s next? We turn into Glasgow Celtic – Glasgow Rangers. Sometimes there are heated passions, but the reason the passions were so heated at the end of full-time was because of the behaviour of some of the players in the Armagh group, which was way, way out of line.”
Brolly wants to see a separate TV referee, similar to rugby and soccer.
"The third ref would make a massive difference. TV ref, the eye-in-the-sky and players all of a sudden players know ‘if I do something like that, I’m going to be picked up and I’m going to be severely sanctioned for it’. Armagh could easily have won that game. There were two or three Armagh players that should not have been on the pitch. They could easily have won that game and, in spite of how they behaved, they’d be sitting in an All-Ireland semi-final,” he said. "If the criteria is don’t get caught, then that’s not good enough.”
Brolly also takes aim at Armagh manager Kieran McGeeney’s claim his team are being targeted on social media. “Kieran McGeeney shouldn’t be saying there is a social media witchhunt. What does that even mean?” Brolly says.
"It’s like Boris Johnson. He should be saying: ‘We are going to be looking extremely seriously at this. We take our obligations extremely seriously. Of course, I will defend my players and we are going to have our own internal discussion on this and our own internal investigation because our players must be held to the standard of the GAA community. And if anyone has stepped outside of GAA boundaries, I will deal with that, because we treat our obligations as GAA people very, very seriously.’”
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 28, 2022 8:34:16 GMT
The fallout will also have repercussions on David McGoldrick, it may have cost him the AI gig. It's hard to know what the ref can do in such instances, by the letter if the law, you'd have ended up with a seven aside game - either way the ref and it isn't often I defend, he is most hung out to dry by all other stakeholders.
I remember reading an interview with Monaghans McInenay about two years after the 1996 Mayo/Meath dance ... he was on a hiding to nothing...
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Post by peanuts on Jun 28, 2022 8:47:38 GMT
You encourage a culture like that and you end up with constant rows and eye gouging In todays paper Colm Keys says a Galway player started the melee. Awkward fact for those trying to blame Armagh management and KD. Both teams went at it then. Nobody should be blaming KD, that's plain wrong IMO. I don't how Keys can say a Galway player started the melee. You could possibly say Comer started it as he got into it with Morgan (I think) but it wouldn't have gone any further if a couple of more Armagh players and Kelly hadn't gotten involved. Armagh looked to the aggressors in the melee to me though, even before the gouging incident. An Armagh sub (with no. 27 on his bib) pulled down the Galway no. 4 (Glynn) and had him in a head lock on the ground. The melee would have finished up more quickly and with less talk about it if the gouging incident didn't reignite it again.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 28, 2022 8:54:41 GMT
Someone on the ground also appeared to get a purposeful kick into the head and TV cameramen would also know to shy away from other stuff.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 28, 2022 8:59:44 GMT
In todays paper Colm Keys says a Galway player started the melee. Awkward fact for those trying to blame Armagh management and KD. Both teams went at it then. Nobody should be blaming KD, that's plain wrong IMO. I don't how Keys can say a Galway player started the melee. You could possibly say Comer started it as he got into it with Morgan (I think) but it wouldn't have gone any further if a couple of more Armagh players and Kelly hadn't gotten involved. Armagh looked to the aggressors in the melee to me though, even before the gouging incident. An Armagh sub (with no. 27 on his bib) pulled down the Galway no. 4 (Glynn) and had him in a head lock on the ground. The melee would have finished up more quickly and with less talk about it if the gouging incident didn't reignite it again. Donaghy is not being blamed as an individual, what has been said is that he is part of the management set up of a team who have been in 3 high profile brawls this year, they tried to start another against Kerry in the league and a team that carried out a number or strikes to the head on players off the ball on Sunday. This is obviously part of their game plan and we used to berate Mickey Harte when Tyrone used to do it. He’s not personally at fault but he is part of the collective that are culpable
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 28, 2022 9:51:14 GMT
You encourage a culture like that and you end up with constant rows and eye gouging In todays paper Colm Keys says a Galway player started the melee. Awkward fact for those trying to blame Armagh management and KD. Both teams went at it then. Incident happened right in front of me - Comer was in near proximity to 3 Armagh players and there was verbals first and some pushing then - Forker was the Armagh player involved initially and then it just became ugly as numerous players from both sides piled in - Comer came in for a lot of hits during the game and was also involved with Rafferty in a goalmouth incident.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 1, 2022 10:23:47 GMT
By Darragh Ó Sé Wed Jun 29 2022 - 06:00
On Monday morning, my phone beeped with a message from the Pat Kenny radio show. That’s never good. If the Pat Kenny show are ringing up a hobo like me, it probably isn’t because they want to discuss the finer points of midfield play. “So you see, Pat, a lot of teams run set-plays off the throw-in now because it’s the one time the opposition can’t get enough men back ...”
Lo and behold, that wasn’t what they were after. They wanted to know would I like to come on at nine o’clock to talk about the violence in Croke Park on Sunday. And straight away, that told me where we were. We were in one of those situations that comes up every so often. The outside world sees a bit of mileage in a GAA story and they all pile in. You’d think there was nothing else going on in the world.
Nobody in the GAA wants to make out that all-in rows are a good thing. Nobody thinks that. And there’s absolutely nobody defending the eye-gouge on Damien Comer. It was an outrageous act and the CCCC will obviously deal with it severely. There will be punishments handed down and so there should be.
But GAA people aren’t fools either. They know when something is serious and they also know when people from other walks of life are using the association for their own betterment. Especially when politicians decide to rise themselves up to their full height and start throwing down judgments. It would be nearly comical if it wasn’t so obvious.
Take Charlie Flanagan for example. Now, Charlie has been around a long while. He is experienced in public life, he knows how everything goes and how everything works. And there he was on Sunday night, going on Twitter and calling for the cops to get involved. “Gardai should investigate violent confrontation in Croke Park. Expect some in @rte & @officialgaa to reduce it to ‘handbags’.”
Now remember, this man used to be the Minister for Justice. This isn’t some nobody spouting off on Twitter and throwing around loose words that mean nothing and have no consequences. God help us — this is somebody that people might think they should take seriously. And what’s he doing with his time? He’s declaring that the Gardaí need to be devoting their time to a spell of pulling and dragging at a sporting event.
Come on now. We are all grown-ups here. We all know the difference between the hold-me-back stuff we saw on Sunday and actual violence. Again, nobody is saying it’s great stuff, nobody is saying it’s a lovely thing to look at, nobody is suggesting that the GAA shouldn’t punish anyone who has broken the rules.
But getting the Gardaí involved? That’s off-the-wall stuff for anyone to be suggesting, never mind someone who not so long ago was in charge of the force. You can just imagine some young Garda in Fitzgibbon Street on Monday morning being told he has to start ringing around to find out about a row on the pitch down the street the day before. “Ah jaysus ...”
And if that wasn’t bad enough, Catherine Martin had to get involved later in the day on Monday. She was asked about it at some press event and couldn’t help but get in there and grab a piece of the action for herself.
“The eye-gouging incident is appalling stuff,” she said. “Families go to these games. I know of a five-year-old who was at that yesterday, their first match experience. They should have come home talking about what an amazing experience it was.”
I know she’s the Minister for Sport. I know she was only asked a question and gave an answer. But if we know one thing about politicians, it’s that they are highly-skilled at deflecting when it suits them. She could have let it slide by and said it looked bad but it was a matter for the GAA and they should be left to deal with it themselves. But instead she started going on about families with kids and worrying about what they saw.
I was there on Sunday with my eight-year-old and my 13-year-old. All they saw was a mad, exciting game of football, one they got totally engrossed in while they were waiting on their own county to come out and play Mayo. The eight-year-old kept turning to me and asking, “Who are we shouting for here, Daddy?” I was trying to explain that I was neutral in all this because I wasn’t overly sure yet who I didn’t want to meet down the line (if we get that far).
There is no way any child who was in that stadium on Sunday went away scarred by a row. If you think that, it’s a while since you’ve brought a child to a sporting event. Kids who go to matches care about their team, the result and what sweets they’re getting — and it’s very rarely in that order.
I don’t for one second think that an intelligent woman like Catherine Martin believes any different. That’s the worst thing about all this. The politicians who weigh in on these things do it so that they can get noticed and pick up votes. But it’s all silly beggars and they know well it is.
The Taoiseach got in on the act too. Michéal Martin wasn’t going to let it slip by without having his say: “it was a shocking scene. It was a great game of football and awful that it was marred by what transpired at the end of the game.” He did at least say that the GAA will deal with it through their own procedures but he still had to finish up by calling it “quite disturbing and quite upsetting”.
Was it? Were people really disturbed? Were they even upset? I don’t think that really stacks up. Because when it comes right down to it, what did it amount to? If you actually sit down and watch it and be cold and unemotional about it, what do you see?
Unless there’s a camera angle that I haven’t come across yet, it adds up to one extremely bad act by Tiernan Kelly and an awful lot of pushing and shoving outside of that. Plus Kieran Donaghy in a very loud top that he would have been well within his rights to get a clipping for.
A fight breaks out during Galway and Armagh's All-Ireland quarter-final on Sunday. Photograph: Evan Treacy/Inpho You could see it coming. There were subplots going on all around the field as the game came towards the crescendo at the end. It was building up from the moment Ethan Rafferty took the head off Damien Comer coming for an early ball. Comer put that away in the hard drive and kept it for later.
So when Shane Walsh scored a point soon after the first Galway goal, Comer went in and remembered he owed Rafferty that few bob from earlier and let him know all about it. Rafferty body-slammed Comer for his troubles and Comer actually got a yellow card.
But Comer went way up in my estimation — and I liked him a lot already. He was wise to what the temperature of the game was. Armagh put a lot of store in mouthing and sledging — you could see James Morgan at it the whole time with Walsh and Ciarán Mackin, the sub who came on with the glasses, never shut up yapping at Robert Finnerty. Comer basically said: ‘Well if ye want to go down that road lads, I’m here all day.’
So when the two teams went off towards the Cusack Stand at full-time, it was no surprise that Morgan had plenty to say for himself and that Comer was primed and ready to give it all back to him. And next thing you know, a bit of mouthing leads to a bit of pushing and since everybody’s already running in the one direction anyway, you get what we got.
But what did we get, really and truly? I have been in the middle of those things. Every player has. Sometimes I’ve seen them get out of control and I’ve seen people get hurt. But there is a massive difference between those kinds of rows and what we saw on Sunday.
I know people will say, “Yeah but the eye-gouge is a disgrace.” And it is. But ask yourself this — if there was no eye-gouge, would there be no outrage? Or would politicians and everybody else still be lining up to have their cut at the melee anyway? I get the feeling they would. They’re having their own free-for-all here and I think the eye-gouge is giving them a nice bit of cover to do it.
Tiernan Kelly did a stupid, terrible thing. He was lucky the consequences weren’t worse for Damien Comer. Nobody is arguing anything else. But the reality of the situation now is that there’s a river of * flowing down the mountain on to this lad from people who know absolutely nothing about him or the sport or anything to do with the situation at the time. And there is no hiding place on this little island.
I hope we don’t get to a place where the CCCC feels it has to weigh in with loads of suspensions now just because this stuff caused a few politicians to do the Holy Mary Mother Of God routine
You’d think politicians would know that better than anyone. You’d think they’d have a bit more understanding of something that happens in the heat of the moment while tensions are running high. Who are they to comment on someone’s life like that? It shows an awful lack of imagination on their part to be getting stuck in for the sake of making a headline. It doesn’t say much for them that they have so little to be concerning themselves with.
For the GAA and for those of us who were there and who were watching on television, it’s an awful pity that this stuff is being allowed to take away from what was 100 minutes of pure entertainment. The Kerry v Mayo game after it couldn’t hold a candle to it. It was one of the best games I’ve been at for a few years and both teams deserve huge credit.
The transgressions should be dealt with. The punishments should be handed down. The row should be assessed in detail and with a fair eye. I hope we don’t get to a place where the CCCC feels it has to weigh in with loads of suspensions now just because this stuff caused a few politicians to do the Holy Mary Mother Of God routine. Whatever decision they make should be fair and rational.
It would be nice if everyone could just grow up and cop on a bit.
Darragh Ó Sé Darragh Ó Sé
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 3, 2022 11:20:36 GMT
Talk of getting the Gardai involved and Catherine Martin’s nonsense about a 5 year old at the game do nothing but discredit the people saying such absolute tripe.
I’ve been critical of it and of Armagh but the sanctimonious, hand wringers can go and do one with their curtain twitching, pearl clutching, faux outrage.
I would have expected more from Micheal Martin, considering his links to the GAA. Matt cooper calling for the Gardai to be involved has left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Post by southward on Jul 3, 2022 12:19:55 GMT
Talk of getting the Gardai involved and Catherine Martin’s nonsense about a 5 year old at the game do nothing but discredit the people saying such absolute tripe. I’ve been critical of it and of Armagh but the sanctimonious, hand wringers can go and do one with their curtain twitching, pearl clutching, faux outrage. I would have expected more from Micheal Martin, considering his links to the GAA. Matt cooper calling for the Gardai to be involved has left a bad taste in my mouth. "pearl clutching" - love it!
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 3, 2022 12:25:26 GMT
Talk of getting the Gardai involved and Catherine Martin’s nonsense about a 5 year old at the game do nothing but discredit the people saying such absolute tripe. I’ve been critical of it and of Armagh but the sanctimonious, hand wringers can go and do one with their curtain twitching, pearl clutching, faux outrage. I would have expected more from Micheal Martin, considering his links to the GAA. Matt cooper calling for the Gardai to be involved has left a bad taste in my mouth. "pearl clutching" - love it! We’re not too far away from someone suggesting that we should get the army to do the stewarding at croker
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Jul 3, 2022 13:02:25 GMT
Talk of getting the Gardai involved and Catherine Martin’s nonsense about a 5 year old at the game do nothing but discredit the people saying such absolute tripe. I’ve been critical of it and of Armagh but the sanctimonious, hand wringers can go and do one with their curtain twitching, pearl clutching, faux outrage. I would have expected more from Micheal Martin, considering his links to the GAA. Matt cooper calling for the Gardai to be involved has left a bad taste in my mouth. It has all become a bit ridiculous to be honest. But take a look at those and their faux outrage. Politicians, GAA pundits, radio hosts etc, and why they reacted the way they did. To create a diversion away from their own failures of dealing with something more important, eg. the cost of living. To be seen to be doing something. Those who just like attacking the GAA at every opportunity. Increase listeners/readers for media outlets. And for pundits to try and stay relevant. Even Larry McCarthy has deflected any blame from the association. There’s been far worse rows than last Sunday, generated from teams heading down the same tunnel. It’s not always possible to have separate entrances, but it should be used where possible. I’m not excusing both teams, but take out the moment of madness from TK, and the subsequent punch, there was nothing really to get worked up about. I’ve seen more pushing and shoving coming out of Sunday mass as the old saying goes.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 3, 2022 15:23:06 GMT
There was always separate entrance tunnels before the stadium was done up. It wouldn't be a new concept.
Will it happen. Probably. But it can't happen in every ground around the country without huge expense
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 3, 2022 17:15:37 GMT
Talk of getting the Gardai involved and Catherine Martin’s nonsense about a 5 year old at the game do nothing but discredit the people saying such absolute tripe. I’ve been critical of it and of Armagh but the sanctimonious, hand wringers can go and do one with their curtain twitching, pearl clutching, faux outrage. I would have expected more from Micheal Martin, considering his links to the GAA. Matt cooper calling for the Gardai to be involved has left a bad taste in my mouth. It has all become a bit ridiculous to be honest. But take a look at those and their faux outrage. Politicians, GAA pundits, radio hosts etc, and why they reacted the way they did. To create a diversion away from their own failures of dealing with something more important, eg. the cost of living. To be seen to be doing something. Those who just like attacking the GAA at every opportunity. Increase listeners/readers for media outlets. And for pundits to try and stay relevant. Even Larry McCarthy has deflected any blame from the association. There’s been far worse rows than last Sunday, generated from teams heading down the same tunnel. It’s not always possible to have separate entrances, but it should be used where possible. I’m not excusing both teams, but take out the moment of madness from TK, and the subsequent punch, there was nothing really to get worked up about. I’ve seen more pushing and shoving coming out of Sunday mass as the old saying goes. I wonder what has Catherine Martin expressed an opinion on the GAA before or is she just looking at what is trending on Twitter and thinking “f*ck I better be seen to say something here” I’d love to hear her opinion on the game, on Galway’s goalie, on the rian o Neill free, on the penalties, etc.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 3, 2022 20:34:59 GMT
It has all become a bit ridiculous to be honest. But take a look at those and their faux outrage. Politicians, GAA pundits, radio hosts etc, and why they reacted the way they did. To create a diversion away from their own failures of dealing with something more important, eg. the cost of living. To be seen to be doing something. Those who just like attacking the GAA at every opportunity. Increase listeners/readers for media outlets. And for pundits to try and stay relevant. Even Larry McCarthy has deflected any blame from the association. There’s been far worse rows than last Sunday, generated from teams heading down the same tunnel. It’s not always possible to have separate entrances, but it should be used where possible. I’m not excusing both teams, but take out the moment of madness from TK, and the subsequent punch, there was nothing really to get worked up about. I’ve seen more pushing and shoving coming out of Sunday mass as the old saying goes. I wonder what has Catherine Martin expressed an opinion on the GAA before or is she just looking at what is trending on Twitter and thinking “f*ck I better be seen to say something here” I’d love to hear her opinion on the game, on Galway’s goalie, on the rian o Neill free, on the penalties, etc. I'd rather the opinions of the hypothetical five year old. 😂
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 3, 2022 21:15:27 GMT
I wonder what has Catherine Martin expressed an opinion on the GAA before or is she just looking at what is trending on Twitter and thinking “f*ck I better be seen to say something here” I’d love to hear her opinion on the game, on Galway’s goalie, on the rian o Neill free, on the penalties, etc. I'd rather the opinions of the hypothetical five year old. 😂 As would I. It’s just funny that politicians will hop on the 1 negative but won’t focus on the great game, the drama, the superb players or anything positive out of what was the best game of this years championship (so far).
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 3, 2022 22:20:07 GMT
I blame the reporter who asked them the question in the first place. It was neither the appropriate time, place or people for the question.
Journalism is in the gutter. Most articles I see on my ipad are just quotes from random fellas off Twitter. We could get quoted about stuff yet.
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Post by jackiel on Jul 3, 2022 23:00:32 GMT
The dressing rooms are not the same on both sides, Hogan side dressing rooms have a warm up area. A coin toss for sides is probably the fairest option. It would also do away with the idea of a "Dublin" dressing room.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 4, 2022 6:35:39 GMT
Pages 24, 25 and 26 of this thread contain little discussion about the great game between Armagh and Galway either though. A game for the ages.
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Post by homerj on Jul 4, 2022 8:50:21 GMT
The dressing rooms are not the same on both sides, Hogan side dressing rooms have a warm up area. A coin toss for sides is probably the fairest option. It would also do away with the idea of a "Dublin" dressing room. if no warm up area on the cusack side, how come galway only came out onto the pitch about 15 mins before throw in the last day? assumption was, they were doing their warm up inside and then came out and finished it accordingly
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Post by jackiel on Jul 4, 2022 9:51:32 GMT
The dressing rooms are not the same on both sides, Hogan side dressing rooms have a warm up area. A coin toss for sides is probably the fairest option. It would also do away with the idea of a "Dublin" dressing room. if no warm up area on the cusack side, how come galway only came out onto the pitch about 15 mins before throw in the last day? assumption was, they were doing their warm up inside and then came out and finished it accordingly Sorry, can't answer that for you.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 4, 2022 9:59:39 GMT
Pages 24, 25 and 26 of this thread contain little discussion about the great game between Armagh and Galway either though. A game for the ages. A superb match and I was delighted to be there to watch it. Galway were the better side and seemed home and hosed until those few minutes of carnage in their small square. That point by Rian to level it up was a thing of beauty and the cheers from Armagh fans made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck, I genuinely felt that a wave of emotion would carry them over the line. The ironic thing is the row lifted a completely deflated Galway and gave them a new sense of purpose as they were all walking off with their heads down. Fairplay to Galway for pulling it out of the bag as after they went a point down in extra time, I thought they were done again. The 2 goals in 2 mins in extra time was an unbelievable thing to witness as the crowd was electric.
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Post by southward on Jul 4, 2022 10:40:06 GMT
Pages 24, 25 and 26 of this thread contain little discussion about the great game between Armagh and Galway either though. A game for the ages. A superb match and I was delighted to be there to watch it. Galway were the better side and seemed home and hosed until those few minutes of carnage in their small square. That point by Rian to level it up was a thing of beauty and the cheers from Armagh fans made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck, I genuinely felt that a wave of emotion would carry them over the line. The ironic thing is the row lifted a completely deflated Galway and gave them a new sense of purpose as they were all walking off with their heads down. Fairplay to Galway for pulling it out of the bag as after they went a point down in extra time, I thought they were done again. The 2 goals in 2 mins in extra time was an unbelievable thing to witness as the crowd was electric. Similar happened Kerry v Cork in the 2008 AI semi. 7 points up going into injury time and we managed to hand them a replay. There was no 7 or 8 minutes added time back in those days either, usually just 1 or 2. John Hayes scored a penalty with the last kick of the game.
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Post by rollingstone on Jul 4, 2022 11:56:26 GMT
I blame the reporter who asked them the question in the first place. It was neither the appropriate time, place or people for the question. Journalism is in the gutter. Most articles I see on my ipad are just quotes from random fellas off Twitter. We could get quoted about stuff yet. That's a very valid point and applies to way more than just the GAA.
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Post by rollingstone on Jul 4, 2022 11:57:55 GMT
Pages 24, 25 and 26 of this thread contain little discussion about the great game between Armagh and Galway either though. A game for the ages. A superb match and I was delighted to be there to watch it. Galway were the better side and seemed home and hosed until those few minutes of carnage in their small square. That point by Rian to level it up was a thing of beauty and the cheers from Armagh fans made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck, I genuinely felt that a wave of emotion would carry them over the line. The ironic thing is the row lifted a completely deflated Galway and gave them a new sense of purpose as they were all walking off with their heads down.Fairplay to Galway for pulling it out of the bag as after they went a point down in extra time, I thought they were done again. The 2 goals in 2 mins in extra time was an unbelievable thing to witness as the crowd was electric. Absolutely. Armagh totally shot themselves in the foot with the row as they had all the momentum going into extra time.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 4, 2022 12:23:21 GMT
Pages 24, 25 and 26 of this thread contain little discussion about the great game between Armagh and Galway either though. A game for the ages. A superb match and I was delighted to be there to watch it. Galway were the better side and seemed home and hosed until those few minutes of carnage in their small square. That point by Rian to level it up was a thing of beauty and the cheers from Armagh fans made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck, I genuinely felt that a wave of emotion would carry them over the line. The ironic thing is the row lifted a completely deflated Galway and gave them a new sense of purpose as they were all walking off with their heads down. Fairplay to Galway for pulling it out of the bag as after they went a point down in extra time, I thought they were done again. The 2 goals in 2 mins in extra time was an unbelievable thing to witness as the crowd was electric. Yes i agree. The Rian oNeill score was one of the great moments in Croke Park. When Jemar Hall kicked the lead point straight after the amazing this was that Armagh retreated en masse and conceded the kickout. McDaid kicked an unreal equaliser but Galway found it too easy to take the ball into the kicking zone. Contrast that to the end of the 2017 final when Dublin players pulled down every Mayo player in sight after Rock kicked that free. The Mayo keeper Clarke had to go to the sideline with the kickout and it went over it. Armagh have a bit to go to learn how to ruthlessly close out these games.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Jul 4, 2022 13:03:08 GMT
A superb match and I was delighted to be there to watch it. Galway were the better side and seemed home and hosed until those few minutes of carnage in their small square. That point by Rian to level it up was a thing of beauty and the cheers from Armagh fans made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck, I genuinely felt that a wave of emotion would carry them over the line. The ironic thing is the row lifted a completely deflated Galway and gave them a new sense of purpose as they were all walking off with their heads down. Fairplay to Galway for pulling it out of the bag as after they went a point down in extra time, I thought they were done again. The 2 goals in 2 mins in extra time was an unbelievable thing to witness as the crowd was electric. Yes i agree. The Rian oNeill score was one of the great moments in Croke Park. When Jemar Hall kicked the lead point straight after the amazing this was that Armagh retreated en masse and conceded the kickout. McDaid kicked an unreal equaliser but Galway found it too easy to take the ball into the kicking zone. Contrast that to the end of the 2017 final when Dublin players pulled down every Mayo player in sight after Rock kicked that free. The Mayo keeper Clarke had to go to the sideline with the kickout and it went over it. Armagh have a bit to go to learn how to ruthlessly close out these games. Yeah I suppose to lose a game like that, with it’s fine margins, you would hope to learn from it. So maybe the Galway experience will bring us on, and we’ll push on, and be a wee bit streetwise next season. There’s a lot of things you miss when watching it live as you’re caught up in the emotions of the whole thing. I’ve only seen the highlights from it. It would be a good game to watch again, even though we lost.
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Post by veteran on Jul 4, 2022 13:41:01 GMT
“Journalism is in the gutter “ . Rarely have truer words been spoken. I no longer listen/watch watch current affairs on radio/tv and rarely buy newspapers. Sadly, rather than dispensing news/facts too many journalists have become activists and propagandists for a particular point of view. Of course this state of affairs is not confined to this country.
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