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Post by stevieq on Sept 14, 2019 22:25:27 GMT
Depressed ... that some people think that this Dublin team is the greatest. Convinced ... that this Kerry team will be winning All Irelands for fun in the next few years. Sad ... that I have to wait for 5 months before I get to see them play again. Inspired ... as always listening to Cluxton's passionate, rip roaring speech Sick ... that Dublin won 5 in a row Delighted ... that Diarmuid Connolly made a balls of everything he did today Proud ....................
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Post by sullyschoice on Sept 14, 2019 22:43:46 GMT
Connolly was *e except for one lovely pass. Thanks be to Jesus.
I couldn't being myself to go to the club tonight to face the music. Had a couple of pints after game and headed home with a bag of chips.
I will watch the game again tomorrow when the Dubs in my house are at the Ladies final
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 23:17:31 GMT
Strange as well Jonathan Lyne came on in tge drawn game would have had him ahead of White to come on in the second half.
O Callaghan is some footballer - himself and David will dominate headlines for the next number of years class acts
One final point what is the point in carrying Killian Young - his race is ran and should be told thanks and good luck - Graham Sullivan came on in the first game and was dropped today to make room for JOD - surely Young should have been the one to make way - as i said he needs to be moved out next year.
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Post by brucewayne on Sept 14, 2019 23:27:55 GMT
Congratulations to the Dubs!
A shame it ended this way for the lads but nothing but grateful for the amazing football we've been treated to this summer and the spring too.
Already looking forward to 2020. 🙂
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Post by carthalawn on Sept 14, 2019 23:34:13 GMT
Very proud of the team and management. Was very confident at half time - I thought Keane has orchestrated a master class in game strategy - unfortunately the Dublin goal forced us into a different plan, which stretched us. They were there for taking. We had our chances in then second half, alas not to be. Not regrets. A proud Kerry man. Onwards.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 14, 2019 23:59:43 GMT
Very proud of the team and management. Was very confident at half time - I thought Keane has orchestrated a master class in game strategy - unfortunately the Dublin goal forced us into a different plan, which stretched us. They were there for taking. We had our chances in then second half, alas not to be. Not regrets. A proud Kerry man. Onwards. Great words
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Post by Tadhgeen on Sept 15, 2019 0:06:04 GMT
We were beaten fair and square today ....but not by a lot.
Two weeks ago was the one that got away.
In both games the lads were magnificent. However I left the game today and within two hours I heard people castigating management and players for wrong decision making , execution etc.
In my view this is disregarding the Dubs - they were better than us today , full stop. Not massively better but they were better simple as.
Not long ago people, including our own, gave us no chance.
We have had a good year so let’s stay positive.
I do think though that we need one or two more players in defence and all midfield to plough on. .
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Post by Tadhgeen on Sept 15, 2019 0:08:40 GMT
Kerry never looked like winning. We were always chasing it. Even when we went in level I felt we needed goals. We just couldn't stop them. Every time we got a score they got one or two. We gave Mannion O'Callaghan and Kilkenny far too much room and they got the scores. We paid for it. It won't be easy to get back next year. Mayo Tyrone Donegal Cork will be all there next year and maybe Galway. I think starting Diarmuid O'Connor was a mistake. He's only 20 and It put a lot of pressure on him. He didn't really have an impact. I think we need to add a couple of more backs and a Midfielder at least for next year. Hopefully we give players a run in the League and we find that. Dublin we will be really hard to stop again though. I disagree - we were in the game well into the second half. A goal would have been massive.
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Post by Tadhgeen on Sept 15, 2019 0:11:31 GMT
Hats off and congrats to Dublin they were super efficient. Thought we had it at halftime but not to be. Goal was a killer. We missed too much in the second half and made poor decisions close to goal, however you live and learn. Thanks to all the Kerry players and management for a great year. In fairness not much more to be said, short and succinct.
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Post by wearkerry on Sept 15, 2019 0:12:49 GMT
Kerry never looked like winning. We were always chasing it. Even when we went in level I felt we needed goals. We just couldn't stop them. Every time we got a score they got one or two. We gave Mannion O'Callaghan and Kilkenny far too much room and they got the scores. We paid for it. It won't be easy to get back next year. Mayo Tyrone Donegal Cork will be all there next year and maybe Galway. I think starting Diarmuid O'Connor was a mistake. He's only 20 and It put a lot of pressure on him. He didn't really have an impact. I think we need to add a couple of more backs and a Midfielder at least for next year. Hopefully we give players a run in the League and we find that. Dublin we will be really hard to stop again though. I disagree - we were in the game well into the second half. A goal would have been massive.
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Post by Tadhgeen on Sept 15, 2019 0:22:02 GMT
Some initial thoughts from the final Moran not as effective today - would retain him but as an impact sub next year - his legs are gone for top level Wouldnt have started Diarmaid - too big an ask for him for today - bad call by the management on that one Killian introduced far too late - should have been on after 45 minutes - he panicked the Dublin defence - again management questionable Geaney excellent kept showing - a real leader today We have finally cured our goalkeeping problem Need to develop one or two more man marking defenders - in the Murchan or Fitzsimons mode All in all a promising year and plenty to look forward to for 2020 Could not argue with most of those points
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Post by Tadhgeen on Sept 15, 2019 0:24:53 GMT
From your POV this is a good post. Do you ever sit back for a minute and think how ridiculous you are at times. Do you have even a shred of self awareness. Seriously. Without thinking about it too much I enjoy both your contributions on the forum - now cop on.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Sept 15, 2019 0:47:16 GMT
Do you ever sit back for a minute and think how ridiculous you are at times. Do you have even a shred of self awareness. Seriously. Without thinking about it too much I enjoy both your contributions on the forum - now cop on. Thank you Tadgheen we lost a game let’s not get too cranky with one another !!it’s been a wonderful journey thus far. With a long winter in front of us for retrospection for now just take a deep breath !
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Post by john4 on Sept 15, 2019 1:07:33 GMT
Congrats to Dublin, better team won. They opened the door for us the first day and we f*cked up. Very disappointed right now. I see today similar to having studied for months for an exam, only to go on the piss the night before it. There was a sense that our lads saying "hang on, I'm not ready" when the ref started the match. First time this year that our sideline got blinded by the lights. The big balls in the first 10 minutes were nuts! Everyone involved will be disgusted, it's horrible. But no-one died, we go again.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 1:12:17 GMT
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 15, 2019 1:12:21 GMT
Keane was brutal today in my opinion, Starting young O’Conner ffs trying to do a Brian Cody with Walter Walshe in the hurling, the only thing is Cody is a smart Operatior, unlike Keane with all this yerra yerra sh1t , telling you now as a proud Kerry man it’s neither funny or smart lad Shut the * up
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 15, 2019 1:14:42 GMT
Five in a Row done for the first time. Not sure where shame comes into it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 1:18:49 GMT
Simplistic way of looking at it. There is no easy answer to that question when comparing teams over 125 years but you literally couldn’t wait to anoint Dublin. To be honest, I am embarrassed for you.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 15, 2019 1:26:31 GMT
Simplistic way of looking at it. There is no easy answer to that question when comparing teams over 125 years but you literally couldn’t wait to anoint Dublin. To be honest, I am embarrassed for you. Look 5>4 But 37> whatever Dublin have What do you want
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Post by Tadhgeen on Sept 15, 2019 1:54:41 GMT
Five-alive-o: Dublin dominate Kerry to make GAA history
Keep that RTE headline in the locker for next year,..
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Post by beebee91 on Sept 15, 2019 2:13:20 GMT
I was told to ask my bollix a few days ago even though I had genuine admiration and fear of the Kerry team. Genuinely was scared *less at 0- 10 a piece at half time but the best team won- simple as that. U can sit around talking about financial advantage and population until the cows come up but I have read every single thread during the past five weeks and the truth is that Dublin outplayed every single team they have met this year. Kerry came very very close and I have huge admiration for the green and gold side but it just wasn’t good enough. I recall someone recently saying the five in a row would be Kerry 19, 20, 21 ,22 , 23!!!! Well that’s a dream for another day
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Post by beebee91 on Sept 15, 2019 3:01:51 GMT
Simplistic way of looking at it. There is no easy answer to that question when comparing teams over 125 years but you literally couldn’t wait to anoint Dublin. To be honest, I am embarrassed for you.
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Post by beebee91 on Sept 15, 2019 5:54:14 GMT
👍🏻👍🏻 Fair enough. I am not embarrassed by a single thing 😊😊😊😊😊😊
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Post by baurtregaum on Sept 15, 2019 6:13:14 GMT
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Post by baurtregaum on Sept 15, 2019 6:23:16 GMT
Annascaul, seeing as how you really know your stuff and have anointed this current Dublin team, can you answer the below questions in relation to other great teams over the years:
How does the 3-in-a-row team Dublin team of 1897 -99 compare to the 3-in-a-row Dublin team of 1906 – 08? Please answer with reference to other 3-in-a-rows won by other counties, such as Kerry 1984 – 86 and Galway of the 60’s. Who was better - the Kerry team which achieved the double in 1913 – 14 or the Kerry team of our era in 2006 – 07 who achieved the same feat?
If you want to try the Honours paper, can you also do a comparison of the three other teams who achieved the 4 in-a-row before Dublin went one better last night? In your opinion, is Wexford’s 4 in-a-row more notable (or devalued) because it was achieved in an era of major change and upheaval in this country? I await these answers. P.S. if you can answer these I have loads more to ask.
Of course you can’t answer and neither can anybody else - objectively. As Veteran put it recently, who was a better hurler – Setanta or Shefflin? Plenty of articles will be written eulogising this Dublin team in the coming weeks and months, deservedly so. Dublin may very well be the GOAT in Gaelic football and I take my hat off to them. I never thought I would see a 5-in-a-row in such a competitive sport, played by amateurs for the love of the game and where they are from, but they have achieved something special. We are also living in a different era of sport here. It is now a “Squad game”.
Kerry got agonisingly close to the same feat with more or less the same 15 men for those five seasons. They also had to deal with arguably their best forward having a disastrous injury that year and a teak-tough defender having a career ending broken leg. The concept of “Sports Psychology” didn’t exist in that era. They lost by a point. Kerry were very unlucky in 1982. Dublin have been lucky. If the Ref (Deegan, I think) spots Bastic picking the ball off of the ground in the last minute of the game that was a tap-over free and (possibly) an All-Ireland to Mayo. Mayo certainly had their chances. Neither Kerry nor Dublin played well in 2015 IMO, but Dublin played a little better and came through on what was a horrible day for a game of football.
The “5” was never written in the stars but today it feels like the more they win the harder it will be for anyone to eventually beat them. We will see a few retirements but we also know that Dublin will have some great young players to step into the breach so they are going nowhere. Collectively they are still very fresh. They have a massive bank of big-game experience now and for me that was probably the biggest difference on the night – composure when it really mattered...
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Post by baurtregaum on Sept 15, 2019 6:24:34 GMT
... Saying Dublin were lucky isn’t to denigrate what Dublin have done because you need a bit of luck to win any year. 5 in-a-row is an incredible achievement but, at the end of the day, it is a statistic which paints an incomplete picture. Comparing teams from different eras, or saying one is definitively the greatest, is a fool’s errand. Annascaul, I know you are no fool.
I am very proud of our team and management. As others have said, I thought that a semi-final this year was a much as we could hope for so this was way beyond my expectations, even though I am hurting this morning.
After the game, Billy O’Shea on Radio Kerry was saying that Keane needs to drill into them to remember what the last 5 mins of that game felt like and to resolve that it will never happen again. Hopefully they will use this experience positively in the years ahead.
Glass is definitely half full in relation to this Kerry team and management.
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Post by ciarrai4sam on Sept 15, 2019 7:10:15 GMT
God so hopeful at half time, we stuck with them. We never lead in this game though. Goal was blow as we used up alot of energy to get back to within 1. Dublins ball management was at times unbelievable to watch but we didn't tackle or were afraid to. Dublin very efficient with their attacks which ended in scores. Our team learnt big time from this. Experience is key. 80% efficiency in first half and dramatic fall off to 30% in second, we couldnt expect to win AI yesterday unfort. Future is bright though. Proud of Kerry. Dublin learnt more (and could) from drawn game.
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Post by yellowbelly on Sept 15, 2019 7:29:40 GMT
Had a look at the goal again when I got home, just to confirm what I thought in real time. Yes David should have caught it. But Murchan took possession of the ball on his own 65. He took his shot for the goal just outside the 13m line, travelling close to 70m. And he managed to cover this distance with two hops and a solo of the ball. After his last hop he took possession of the ball on the edge of the D and covered the 20m to where he took his shot with no play on the ball.
I know the Dubs were unhappy with Lane at half time but can't have any complaints after that missed call.
Over the two games we lost 3 of the 4 throw ins and conceded 1-02 directly from them,
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 7:33:36 GMT
I feel utterly dejected today but deep down optimism is a consoling antidote. Heartbreaking loss in the end but I feel nothing but absolute pride in this young team. They never let the heads drop once. Even after the way Dublin played for about 45 mins of the game without hitting a single wide, Kerry through their own brilliance were only a point down. The goal was an absolute killer. It completely changed the game. But still our lads stood tall and got it back to a point. The way Dublin played for the last 15 mins only comes with experience. They've been there before. They knew how to hold onto the ball and keep Kerry at a distance. They patiently worked the ball into scoring positions. Kerry will learn from this big time. Winning is as much about know how as ability. Dublin have the know how, in time we will too. We have the ability already.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 7:36:48 GMT
I feel utterly dejected today but deep down optimism is a consoling antidote. Heartbreaking loss in the end but I feel nothing but absolute pride in this young team. They never let the heads drop once. Even after the way Dublin played for about 45 mins of the game without hitting a single wide, Kerry through their own brilliance were only a point down. The goal was an absolute killer. It completely changed the game. But still our lads stood tall and got it back to a point. The way Dublin played for the last 15 mins only comes with experience. They've been there before. They knew how to hold onto the ball and keep Kerry at a distance. They patiently worked the ball into scoring positions. Kerry will learn from this big time. Winning is as much about know how as ability. Dublin have the know how, in time we will too. We have the ability already. Good summary
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