valyn
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Post by valyn on Jun 2, 2019 19:42:11 GMT
i think its better to play like that and be tested that winning by 22 and 18 points and sailing into super 8s untested like last year. Looks like the management also had last year in mind - gave other players a run out too as in Robbie Wharton and Jonathan Lyne. Would not be surprised if training was heavy and trying to time run. No panic yet should be order of day.
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diego
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Post by diego on Jun 2, 2019 20:01:22 GMT
Nothing new here for being a county man, happening all the time. Pól Ó Cuinn interviewed before the game, said they were not too happy their county players Brian and Tomás were told they could only play 30 minutes at most. Dingle must be under same restriction, Conor Geaney came on for Mikey at half time.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 2, 2019 20:21:12 GMT
did Paul Geaney play any part. who won the game.
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diego
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Post by diego on Jun 2, 2019 20:22:58 GMT
did Paul Geaney play any part. who won the game. Paul on the sideline in his civilian clothes, Gaeltacht won by 2 points in a hard fought encounter. 0-8 to 0-6.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 2, 2019 20:36:48 GMT
did Paul Geaney play any part. who won the game. Paul on the sideline in his civilian clothes, Gaeltacht won by 2 points in a hard fought encounter. 0-8 to 0-6. injured maybe
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tpo
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Post by tpo on Jun 2, 2019 20:44:24 GMT
Not injured, played full match Saturday and not playing because that not how you recover from match and remain injury free.
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diego
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Post by diego on Jun 2, 2019 20:47:06 GMT
Not injured, played full match Saturday and not playing because that not how you recover from match and remain injury free. Yes would have been very surprised to see him play any part. Tom Sullivan didn't feature either. All the lads involved tonight saw no action in Ennis.
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Post by clarinman on Jun 2, 2019 21:34:33 GMT
Not injured, played full match Saturday and not playing because that not how you recover from match and remain injury free. Yes would have been very surprised to see him play any part. Tom Sullivan didn't feature either. All the lads involved tonight saw no action in Ennis. Tom Sullivan was injured in Ennis. He spent the last 5 minutes hobbling around. Looked like hamstring.
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Post by exiled on Jun 2, 2019 21:37:35 GMT
From where I viewed the incident it seems that the ref attention was drawn to it by Dublin Joe. The Moran black card incident.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 2, 2019 21:42:40 GMT
If PG doesnt play v An Gaeltacht it is a big price to have to pay to be a county man. This is a fantastic community based competition. I would be down about it if i were in his shoes given that its being held back west. I am not a fan of matches on consecutive days myself.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 2, 2019 22:00:38 GMT
From where I viewed the incident it seems that the ref attention was drawn to it by Dublin Joe. The Moran black card incident. Didn't pay much heed to the linesmen yesterday but heard afterwards Dublin Joe was in town alright.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 2, 2019 22:04:45 GMT
Bizarre to think that any of yesterdays players should play for their club this evening. Rest & recovery goes out the window.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 2, 2019 22:27:02 GMT
If PG doesnt play v An Gaeltacht it is a big price to have to pay to be a county man. This is a fantastic community based competition. I would be down about it if i were in his shoes given that its being held back west. I am not a fan of matches on consecutive days myself. I understand your point. This article sets out pretty well how much this competition means to the participants. www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0530/1052588-the-comortas-midges-kegs-and-rogue-county-players/
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 2, 2019 22:31:11 GMT
Annascaul is in West Kerry not Southern Yemen.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Jun 2, 2019 22:35:21 GMT
This game needs to be put away early...definitely send a sign that this is a serious team on a quest in 2019. It will tell us as much about the management team and their style/progress/preparation/motivation as it will about the players. Show us what you are made of in Ennis...and if we are ready for bigger things. We'll be behind you all the way. Could have been out of sight at half time, but were never in any real danger of losing. Got the dogfight in the second half, which will tell more on our frailties throughout the field rather than highlight our already known forward prowess. Cards are a worry...management need to look at making a substitution after a yellow, especially if the player on yellow is a defender or midfielder, where we are kinda weak at present. Better to have a sub in there against the potential of going a man down or conceding a goal if the yellow holder is afraid to tackle in case of a second yellow. Two black cards indicate tackling and close contact issues...plenty of time to start reducing those errors. Plenty to work on. No use in peaking in June, that's for sure. Using June to increase tackling skills and management continue to understand the level of performance (versus potential) on big match days to come. Roll on June 22.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 3, 2019 7:01:38 GMT
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Post by homerj on Jun 3, 2019 7:57:19 GMT
Yes would have been very surprised to see him play any part. Tom Sullivan didn't feature either. All the lads involved tonight saw no action in Ennis. Tom Sullivan was injured in Ennis. He spent the last 5 minutes hobbling around. Looked like hamstring. so you could say that we ended that game with 12 players or another way, weve got 7 or 8 injuries now after it. the last 20 minute collapse is a bit better explained when you look at it that way.
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ciarraioch1956
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Post by ciarraioch1956 on Jun 3, 2019 9:22:10 GMT
Here in Cork they are relishing the prospect of beating us in the Munster Final.
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kot
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Post by kot on Jun 3, 2019 9:51:14 GMT
All of a sudden looks like it could be a Munster Final again alright. You would hope that a few of the Kerry lads will have a good proper kick up the a$$ after their last 2 showings.
And if they go sleep walking into a seemingly resurgent Cork hungry for goals, they will get a land.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 3, 2019 10:02:52 GMT
Always foolish to be going to play Cork in PUC in a Munster Final and underestimating them! Kerry are far from solid.
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Post by glengael on Jun 3, 2019 10:04:30 GMT
All of a sudden looks like it could be a Munster Final again alright. You would hope that a few of the Kerry lads will have a good proper kick up the a$$ after their last 2 showings. And if they go sleep walking into a seemingly resurgent Cork hungry for goals, they will get a land. Also it is not beyond the bounds of possibility that it will be flaking rain, similar to Saturday night last. So that would add to the fun of it all . Lack of leadership is mentioned again. Worrying observation. Will Paul Murphy be fit for 22nd I wonder?
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Post by veteran on Jun 3, 2019 10:57:41 GMT
I have spent the last hour writing a report on the match but when I went to create post button my effort disappeared into the ether. I presume there is no way of retrieving it. I haven't the stomach to repeat it.
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Post by watchdebreakswillye on Jun 3, 2019 11:11:22 GMT
I have spent the last hour writing a report on the match but when I went to create post button my effort disappeared into the ether. I presume there is no way of retrieving it. I haven't the stomach to repeat it.
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Post by watchdebreakswillye on Jun 3, 2019 11:21:51 GMT
I emphatise with your ‘pain’ Veteran.
Fadó fadó, I spent a whole evening and late into the night, typing a tome for a course I was doing. Satisfied that I could do no more, I pressed save....I knew straight away that I was in trouble. The old computer froze. I sat in front of it for an age, but it just kept on ‘laughing’ back at me. Ctrl Alt del later and the whole kit and kaboodle disappeared into the ether, as with you. I was too tired and angry to continue at two in the morning. But, back to it I had to go and from memory, I was able to re-type 80% of the original. Only you can decide what to do next and perhaps only you can make sense of Saturday night. A cup of tay and a walk might help. Or, kick a ball ‘agin’ a wall. Best of luck. Always enjoy your brilliant reports.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 3, 2019 11:59:30 GMT
Veteran
One option you could consider for the future is to write up your match report in the form of an email to yourself.
If something goes wrong before you send the email to yourself then it will probably be in the "drafts" folder.
To insert the post into this forum all you will have to do is use the copy and paste option.
And as an added benefit, your match reports will be there saved for when you bring out the book of match reports!
Mick
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 3, 2019 12:23:32 GMT
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Post by veteran on Jun 3, 2019 14:33:39 GMT
I will have another crack at this cursed report. There is nothing more soul destroying than having nothing to show for an hour's work.
It is reasonable to assume that Kerry will improve as time goes on, by how much and how quickly is speculative. Therefore it is better to confine oneself to what unfolded before our eyes on Saturday and report as objectively as possible. There was a very large, vocal Kerry contingent present in spite of the madness of the GAA in fixing the match to clash with the major soccer game on TV. Overhearing what a lot of these people were saying on the way out it was clear that there was considerable disgruntlement with what that they saw in the second half even though there was general agreement that Kerry were never in danger of losing the match.
At the outset, it would be remiss of me not to comment on the referee. I will be as charitable as possible and say that his jamboree of incompetence was due to the fact that this was his first ever time officiating. Well, I am sure this suggestion is unfounded but that is the way it appeared.
Kerry started sluggishly enough but slowly and inexorably the got on top. David Moran was prominent at midfield, ably assisted by Adrian, the backs, with Jack Sherwood rock solid at CHB, were never in any trouble , while upfront Diarmuid O'Connor, David Clifford and JO'D were causing most problems. Inevitably the scores accrued though not as often as some good play warranted. Sean O'Shea weaved through, after being set up by young David, and struck the post, Paul cut in acutely from the left corner and unluckily hit the outside of the post and there appeared to a be a cast iron penalty claim ignored. The goal when it arrived was craftily created. Young David rounded his man in the right corner, cut in, raised the head, delivered to James, a daisy cutter resulted to the net. It was appropriate that both were involved as they were emerging as huge threats. The result was that we were nine up at half time and largely comfortable as that disparity in the score line would suggest. The downside was that David Moran received a black card , apparently for a foot trip. His absence was crucial in the second half when we were wiped out in that area. Mark Griffin was his replacement. Ominous. Still, so far so reasonably good.
Jack Sherwood was replaced for that second half. Injured? In any case , in this half we were no more than a raggle taggle outfit, resembling a collection of misfits who were collected at the crossroads on the way to the match, being given no game plan, rather being told to bunch as must as possible without any explicit instruction for individual responsibility. Midfield did not feature. Adrian became anonymous without the experience and physical presence of David. Mark Griffin's contribution, who is no more an intercounty midfielder than myself, was to gain a second yellow. The result was that our forwards were on a diet of bread and water and our defence creaked all over ground as Clare came at them in waves. Clare dominated and scored nine points, some of them fine long range efforts, while we relied with six points, mostly frees. It was putrid stuff from Kerry in that half no matter from what angle you approach it. I was relieved when the final whistle blew . Not that I was on the edge of my seat but because it was distressing watching a senior Kerry team perform in that manner.
Some individual performances:
Shane Ryan gave his most assured performance of the year. Clearly he has benefitted from increasing outings in goals.
Paul Geaney gave possibly his most ineffective performance in the county jersey. Peter will need to design a plan where he is relieved of the chore of chasing his man too far out. He has neither the pace or stamina for that, allied to the fact that this chasing minimises his threat.
Gavin showed an alarming lack of pace on occasions when chasing Gary Brennan who is no speed merchant.
JO'D showed flashes of the man he once was. It was a shame that he got inured. He is jinxed in that respect.
Sean O'Shea was manhandled relentlessly, as in the Mayo game , with impunity. Would it not be prudent to give him a run at midfield where he may be less likely to be manacled and where we are not laden down with contenders. Wishing you a speedy recovery from that injury, Sean.
Diarmuid O'Connor gave further evidence that he is the genuine article.
Prior to the match I expressed the wish that we would avoid cards and injuries. Neither wish came true. Injuries cannot be legislated for but the increasing list is becoming a huge worry. Discipline will need to improve while conceding that provocation and inconsistent application of the rules is a factor.
Apparently, it was Dublin Joe who drew the attention of the referee to David's foot trip in the first half. In the second half , towards the end in full view of Dublin Joe and myself a Kerry player was dangerously crashed out over the line with a vicious late tackle. In the same play, more or less, Jason was poleaxed with a blow to the back of the head. Play waved on . Nothing to see here. Dublin Joe once more seeing only what he wants to see.
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Post by veteran on Jun 3, 2019 14:45:11 GMT
Thanks to Watchthebreakswillye and Mickmack for the encouragement to have another go at this post.
Mick , your suggestion sounds simple enough but, I fear, too complicated for somebody as ignorant of technology like myself.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 3, 2019 15:06:00 GMT
Dublin Joe should be let no where near any Kerry team at this stage. The KCB should insist on it from Croke Park.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 3, 2019 15:33:11 GMT
Dublin Joe should be let no where near any Kerry team at this stage. The KCB should insist on it from Croke Park. I am far from a conspiracy theorist but if teams have a problem with a ref you are correct - they must complain before and not after.
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