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Post by Mickmack on Mar 14, 2019 13:21:30 GMT
The Crokes v Corofin final could be a great game.
Its very hard to predict it. Are Corofin going to the well once too often?
Do Crokes have the better panel overall even though a lot of the Crokes lads seem smaller and lighter that the Corofin lads?
I think Corofin hit peak oil in last years final and the stronger Crokes panel will pull them over the finishing line in the final stretch.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Mar 14, 2019 20:39:49 GMT
This should be a cracker. Gary Sice is good from frees and play, as is Ian Burke. Holding these two forwards will be one key for Dr. Crokes. The other key is taking nice points regularly, off left and right wings.
Eoin Brosnan and Colm Cooper off the bench if the Killarney lads have a slim lead could see them hold on.
The hurling final should be excellent as well. Hope the weather is decent, and safe travels to all the Killarney crowd, after a good night in Tralee on Saturday.
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Post by southward on Mar 16, 2019 10:50:48 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 16, 2019 13:05:29 GMT
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Post by dc84 on Mar 17, 2019 9:01:42 GMT
Beautiful if a bit cold morning in Dublin si far best of luck to the crokes today.
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Post by taggert on Mar 17, 2019 17:07:06 GMT
The game was effectively over when John Payne got his marching orders for lash8ng out with the boot in a dangerous act of retaliation. In truth, had he stayed on the pitch, it wouldnt have mattered a jot as Corofin were bigger, faster, hungrier and played Crokes off the park. Fair play to Crokes for making the final but in Moloney, Fionn, Buckley, Casey and O'Leary they have 5 players whose lack of legs for the wide open spaces of Croke park was terribly exposed. As for Kerry, Crokes do not provide any answer to the current goalkeeper and/or midfield conundrums. A final word for Gooch who brought great hunger and intensity to matters when introduced - something the younger turks in the team can take a lesson from.
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Post by keane on Mar 17, 2019 17:08:26 GMT
Yeah anyone expecting Murphy to come back in and claim the GK position will have found that uncomfortable viewing.
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Post by southward on Mar 17, 2019 17:16:47 GMT
Playing the way Corofin do, it must be horrific for their county players having to face back into Galway's anti-football.
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Post by Kingdomson on Mar 17, 2019 17:18:03 GMT
Crokes are tidy and skilful but they are also physically quite light weight in a lot of positions. I think Corofin are a far harder and stronger outfit as a senior team and I expect their backs to shut down the Crokes forwards who may have to live off scraps in the final. To be honest, I expect Corofin to win the final and won't be bit surprised if Corofin won it with a bit to spare. Hard luck to Dr Crokes but today its just hands up time and admit you were outclassed and beaten by a far better side. Yeah, no surprise, I wasn't blinded by any Kerry only spectacles so I genuinely saw just one winner coming into this one today. It was boys against men as I expected going on current form. Corofin are just a far stronger outfit with better footballers and just a better team. They’ve become a seriously focused side ever since that chastening beating to Dr Crokes in a semi-final a couple of years ago (seems a long time ago now). Moreover, I feel Corofin had and have a far harder path to the final too in general. Furthermore, the Connacht championship is better quality than the Munster football championship currently. Irrespective of the sending off today the game was up, and a seriously focussed Corofin were not going to be stopped. Corofin are definitely up there now with the great Crossmaglen sides. Hard luck to Dr Crokes, you are definitely Kerry’s best club side and today you lost a match to just a truly great club team. Well done to Corofin – a truly great club side!
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 17, 2019 17:21:18 GMT
Corofin make gaelic football beautiful to watch. I thought they might be on the downward slope after needing a replay to win the county final. How wrong i was.
Daithi Burke would walk onto the Galway football team if he werent the best hurling fullback in Ireland.
Crokes will be shell shocked. Did anyone perform?
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 17, 2019 17:27:54 GMT
Yeah anyone expecting Murphy to come back in and claim the GK position will have found that uncomfortable viewing. In fairness his defence was often exposed leaving him with little chance to prevent either of the 2 goals - pulled off a few good stops.
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Post by keane on Mar 17, 2019 17:40:10 GMT
Yeah anyone expecting Murphy to come back in and claim the GK position will have found that uncomfortable viewing. In fairness his defence was often exposed leaving him with little chance to prevent either of the 2 goals - pulled off a few good stops. A few good saves alright although I thought he overcommitted for the first goal. I should have said I was talking about the kickouts mostly, which were pretty bad.
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Post by taggert on Mar 17, 2019 17:49:24 GMT
In fairness his defence was often exposed leaving him with little chance to prevent either of the 2 goals - pulled off a few good stops. A few good saves alright although I thought he overcommitted for the first goal. I should have said I was talking about the kickouts mostly, which were pretty bad. Totally agree. No issue on shot stopping. Its the kickouts. Ryan, Murphy, Kelly in that order for me assumung Ryan irons out the aerial creases in his game....
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 17, 2019 17:49:33 GMT
Yeah anyone expecting Murphy to come back in and claim the GK position will have found that uncomfortable viewing. While normally i'd agree, as i never bought into the hype around him, but today he was one of the few who played well i thought. Also people who were calling for Buckley to return may want to rethink after today. Would get away with it in Munster but just wouldn't have the legs for Croke Park. Gavin White is really the only one who you would say would go straight back into the Kerry team baced on today
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Post by Kingdomson on Mar 17, 2019 17:56:12 GMT
Yeah anyone expecting Murphy to come back in and claim the GK position will have found that uncomfortable viewing. While normally i'd agree, as i never bought into the hype around him, but today he was one of the few who played well i thought. Also people who were calling for Buckley to return may want to rethink after today. Would get away with it in Munster but just wouldn't have the legs for Croke Park. Gavin White is really the only one who you would say would go straight back into the Kerry team baced on todayI'd agree with you, any answer for Kerry's midfield conundrum does not lay with the Cokes going on today's evidence. This morning i was thinking Buckley might still have something to offer but wishful thinking only i'm afraid.
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Post by clarinman on Mar 17, 2019 17:59:53 GMT
Corofin make gaelic football beautiful to watch. I thought they might be on the downward slope after needing a replay to win the county final. How wrong i was. Daithi Burke would walk onto the Galway football team if he werent the best hurling fullback in Ireland. Crokes will be shell shocked. Did anyone perform? In fairness to Corofin they cruised through the Galway championship until the final. In the final Mountbellew parked the bus and Corofin got out of jail with an injury time equaliser. That game finished 7 points each. Corofin worked it out our for the replay and won easily. They are the best club team I have seen, Crossmaglen included. The 3 finals they have won since 2015 have been by very wide margins. They are doing this with few current intercounty players. Only Ian Burke and maybe Silke will start for Galway this year in the championship. Molloy might make the bench. But added to this they have a few ex Galway players in Fitzgerald, Lundy and Sice and a good few who have been on Galway panels over the years like Steede and the Farraghers. They are a really well coached team 1 to 15.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 17, 2019 18:21:16 GMT
Look this wouldn't have changed the outcome but id have started Gooch. His experience would have really helped the young lads Corofin were powerful and brilliant in equal measure.
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 17, 2019 18:26:44 GMT
Look this wouldn't have changed the outcome but id have started Gooch. His experience would have really helped the young lads Corofin were powerful and brilliant in equal measure. Crokes starting XV was hugely experienced - Shaw, Brosnan, White & Burns the only guys under 25.
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Post by veteran on Mar 17, 2019 18:34:23 GMT
First Ireland, then Kerry and then Dr. Crokes. A St. Patrick’s weekend to be deleted from the brain immediately.
It was wonderful to watch Cordin. Irrespective of the John Payne’s red card they were in a different league. Great football can be so simple. It was so refreshing to watch the long, early, accurate ball punted forward to busy, moving forwards. No need for a multiplicity of middle men. If only we could manage time and set them up aginast Crossmaglen. They were another team who embraced simplicity.
After this weekend , I thought we would be close to solving the goal keeping conundrum. It is still a case of all applicants welcome.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 17, 2019 18:36:56 GMT
Comiserations to the Crokes.
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Post by taggert on Mar 17, 2019 18:43:31 GMT
Yeah anyone expecting Murphy to come back in and claim the GK position will have found that uncomfortable viewing. While normally i'd agree, as i never bought into the hype around him, but today he was one of the few who played well i thought. Also people who were calling for Buckley to return may want to rethink after today. Would get away with it in Munster but just wouldn't have the legs for Croke Park. Gavin White is really the only one who you would say would go straight back into the Kerry team baced on today While Gavin White is a super talent and will make the Kerry team he was anything but good today. He marked Leonard who took him for 1-3 so if you were basing it on today, you wouldnt be picking him.
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Post by gamechanger10 on Mar 17, 2019 19:53:58 GMT
Croke’s play a very controlled game and to be honest I cant say I like their style of football, while very effective it’s hard to watch on occasion. I like the vast majority of Kerry people was hoping they would get over the line today and win but with Corofins two goals they had to come out of their shell and try and play themselves back into the game. Corofin are a fabulous traditional old school team with a modern varnish, they were kicking beautiful points and were not going to retreat to the trenches with the “defend the lead at all costs” mentality. They continued to bring the game to Croke’s and never let them settle or gain any degree of control over the game. The better football team won today but the two goals were worth far more than their initial six points and congrats to corofin today.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 17, 2019 20:07:38 GMT
While normally i'd agree, as i never bought into the hype around him, but today he was one of the few who played well i thought. Also people who were calling for Buckley to return may want to rethink after today. Would get away with it in Munster but just wouldn't have the legs for Croke Park. Gavin White is really the only one who you would say would go straight back into the Kerry team baced on today While Gavin White is a super talent and will make the Kerry team he was anything but good today. He marked Leonard who took him for 1-3 so if you were basing it on today, you wouldnt be picking him. Infairness the whole team malfunctioned today. It was just a complete collapse, the hunger Corofin showed was incredible displayed best by young Molloy fielding a ball over buckleys head.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 23:58:27 GMT
Well done to Corofin. Fair play to them .They are a joy to watch. Plenty County teams could learn from them.
No excuses from Crokes. We were well beaten by a better team.
The 3 in a row is definitely on for them now. They are clearly the best in Ireland. I can’t see them getting beaten.
For Crokes it’s back to the drawing board. You just have to dust yourself off and start all over again. It’s time now to bring some young players into the backs. Nothing you can do only move on to the next game and try and learn from this defeat.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 18, 2019 12:14:30 GMT
Hard luck to Crokes yesterday, a tough day in Croker. Crokes would have been much more competitive in this game had it been played at the end of last year. Time to end to three month delay madness here and let players get back to their counties.
Corofin are a joy to watch, their kicking of the ball was top drawer. Molloy's kick stab pass for their first goal was box office.
Corofin and Crossmaglen before them have won very impressive club finals by being predominately great kicking teams. It would be great to see that at county level.
What was the attendance yesterday? It looked sub 30,000 from the available camera positions.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Mar 18, 2019 12:23:55 GMT
Hard luck to Crokes yesterday, a tough day in Croker. Crokes would have been much more competitive in this game had it been played at the end of last year. Time to end to three month delay madness here and let players get back to their counties. Corofin are a joy to watch, their kicking of the ball was top drawer. Molloy's kick stab pass for their first goal was box office. Corofin and Crossmaglen before them have won very impressive club finals by being predominately great kicking teams. It would be great to see that at county level. What was the attendance yesterday? It looked sub 30,000 from the available camera positions. Around 18000 I think. Down from the average of 30000 for the club finals.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 18, 2019 12:48:29 GMT
Hard luck to Crokes yesterday, a tough day in Croker. Crokes would have been much more competitive in this game had it been played at the end of last year. Time to end to three month delay madness here and let players get back to their counties. Corofin are a joy to watch, their kicking of the ball was top drawer. Molloy's kick stab pass for their first goal was box office. Corofin and Crossmaglen before them have won very impressive club finals by being predominately great kicking teams. It would be great to see that at county level. What was the attendance yesterday? It looked sub 30,000 from the available camera positions. Around 18000 I think. Down from the average of 30000 for the club finals. I thought that, why so?
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 18, 2019 13:03:51 GMT
Brexit... people drawing in their horns maybe
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Post by oldschool on Mar 18, 2019 15:40:01 GMT
I thought Murphy had a good game in goals. He had some v good saves but his kick out options were very limited in the way Corofin really pushed up and covered every option. Also, lack of movement in our back & half back line didn't help his cause. This is also a big failing in our county team. Look at the way Mayo dealt with our kick out!!
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 18, 2019 21:46:49 GMT
Brexit... people drawing in their horns maybe Hard to believe the Commons comedy would keep patrons from All-Ireland final club day
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