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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 16, 2019 16:05:00 GMT
Anyone know why Buckley got a straight red? Given they would be playing Corofin in the final if they make it it ruins two games for him. I don't like moaning about referees but so far most of his decisions are more than dubious.
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Post by taggert on Feb 16, 2019 16:09:52 GMT
Anyone know why Buckley got a straight red? Given they would be playing Corofin in the final if they make it it ruins two games for him. I don't like moaning about referees but so far most of his decisions are more than dubious. Buckley did not seem annoyed with or surprised by the decision. Probably clocked someone off the ball...
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Post by taggert on Feb 16, 2019 16:11:25 GMT
Shaw and Brosnan have been terrific in the first half...
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Post by southward on Feb 16, 2019 16:17:46 GMT
Penalty looked very soft. Also thought the ball was out for the second goal, the man certainly was. Ref buying into the fairytale angle?
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 16, 2019 16:22:19 GMT
Penalty looked very soft. Also thought the ball was out for the second goal, the man certainly was. Ref buying into the fairytale angle? Really? Looney lucky not to get a black card. Clear as day penalty. Also man was out for the second goal but not the ball. Some bad calls from the ref but nothing wrong with both of those
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 16, 2019 16:33:33 GMT
I would have no problem with the goals to be honest. Who of the Crokes would make the Kerry team? I would say Murphy, White, Burns, Potts, Brosnan and Shaw. You have to wonder though how this will effect the All Ireland final. Buckley is a huge loss.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 16, 2019 16:42:06 GMT
Anyone know why Buckley got a straight red? Given they would be playing Corofin in the final if they make it it ruins two games for him. I don't like moaning about referees but so far most of his decisions are more than dubious. Buckley did not seem annoyed with or surprised by the decision. Probably clocked someone off the ball... I don't think he loses his cool often. Tough man, but usually very disciplined. I know him better professionally than as a Crokes player, but he doesn't strike me as someone who would protest or throw a tantrum even if he was unfairly dismissed. The linesman was jumping up and down as the ref was talking to Buckley, but the referee didn't even look at him.
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Post by taggert on Feb 16, 2019 16:59:24 GMT
I would have no problem with the goals to be honest. Who of the Crokes would make the Kerry team? I would say Murphy, White, Burns, Potts, Brosnan and Shaw. You have to wonder though how this will effect the All Ireland final. Buckley is a huge loss. White will. Ryan is better than Murphy. DaraM is much better than Burns who turned over 4 balls today, blocked down 3 times. Cant play both with height deficit. Shaw is a brilliant prospect like Diarmuid OConnor and can see Keane having him in squad. Brosnan v dangerous and lethal finisher - better than K. Spillane and hard to onow if James OD will ever get back to the old JOD form. Potts wont be on c'ship panel.
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Post by clarinman on Feb 16, 2019 17:02:48 GMT
I would have no problem with the goals to be honest. Who of the Crokes would make the Kerry team? I would say Murphy, White, Burns, Potts, Brosnan and Shaw. You have to wonder though how this will effect the All Ireland final. Buckley is a huge loss. Potts is not making the Crokes team, never mind the Kerry team!
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Post by homerj on Feb 16, 2019 17:15:41 GMT
Crokes awesome after the red. Ref was a diagrace and was down on crokes since the first min.
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 16, 2019 17:22:59 GMT
I would have no problem with the goals to be honest. Who of the Crokes would make the Kerry team? I would say Murphy, White, Burns, Potts, Brosnan and Shaw. You have to wonder though how this will effect the All Ireland final. Buckley is a huge loss. Gavin White is a must in the half back line - Brosnan NOT part of Kerry panel; Shaw could see some game time come championship - tall, good target man. Don’t think that there is much between Shane Ryan & Murphy. Burns needs to play better to displace Moynihan .
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 16, 2019 17:37:30 GMT
Really looking forward to this final now.
Will JB be suspended for it.
Brave fight by the Longford men. That Leinster medal will be a prized item in that corner of Ireland. Would they be a senior club in Kerry. Very doubtful.
Nice scores taken today on both sides.
I didnt see any of the other game yet.
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 16, 2019 17:42:38 GMT
Really looking forward to this final now. Will JB be suspended for it. Brave fight by the Longford men. That Leinster medal will be a prized item in that corner of Ireland. Would they be a senior club in Kerry. Very doubtful. Nice scores taken today on both sides. I didnt see any of the other game yet. Unless Crokes can successfully appeal Buckley’s red, he is gone for the final . TV did not pick up on the incident.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 16, 2019 17:42:38 GMT
Crokes remind me a bit of Crossmaglen from 10 years ago in that they have very good footballers all over the pitch but few enough of county standard bar White, the keeper and Shaw.
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 16, 2019 18:09:30 GMT
Crokes awesome after the red. Ref was a diagrace and was down on crokes since the first min. TV may have missed some incidents including Buckley’s red, but the ref seemed to get a lot of calls right; definite penalty with Looney holding onto the man and could be deemed lucky not to receive a black fir his misdemeanor. Shaw, Burns yellow carded late on along with their counterparts, again seemed ok. Ref hopped the ball after initially awarding a free to Mullinalaghta following rough play involving Gavin White who was blameless. There was a free called against Fionn Fitzgerald in the 2nd half which was harsh but other than that it looked like ref was ok - however, not having been at the game there may have been more going on.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 16, 2019 18:21:54 GMT
Moynihan has seemed to go into the Kerry team ahead of Burns, who was a regular last season. That competition for spots is good. I suppose both will be training with the Kerry panel. Murphy too will be in the panel, though I think Ryan is currently ahead. Ideally we have three keepers in the extended training Kerry panel to be prepared for anything. White is a must in the Kerry panel, on that we all agree. Brosnan and Shaw should be in the Kerry training panel as well in my opinion. If they see any game time depends on other players though I think Shaw has the makings of a great Kerry forward. Potts and Kiely (is he injured) are not starters for Crokes, but I do think they could add something to the extended panel. Would it be an idea to at least bring them into training after St. patrick's Day?
With Buckley Crokes would be looking at a very tough task against Corofin, without him it will be so much tougher. I can't see Crokes winning the final unless they sort out the problems at the back, but I don't see how they can stop that Corofin barrage. Perhaps dropping Casey back into defence might help, but that would see them play without a midfield really and few scorers up front as it would surely means Shaw going to the middle. Will they start with Eoin Brosnan in midfield perhaps to add some experience? Doubt he would last for 70 minutes.
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 16, 2019 18:25:54 GMT
Moynihan has seemed to go into the Kerry team ahead of Burns, who was a regular last season. That competition for spots is good. I suppose both will be training with the Kerry panel. Murphy too will be in the panel, though I think Ryan is currently ahead. Ideally we have three keepers in the extended training Kerry panel to be prepared for anything. White is a must in the Kerry panel, on that we all agree. Brosnan and Shaw should be in the Kerry training panel as well in my opinion. If they see any game time depends on other players though I think Shaw has the makings of a great Kerry forward. Potts and Kiely (is he injured) are not starters for Crokes, but I do think they could add something to the extended panel. Would it be an idea to at least bring them into training after St. patrick's Day? With Buckley Crokes would be looking at a very tough task against Corofin, without him it will be so much tougher. I can't see Crokes winning the final unless they sort out the problems at the back, but I don't see how they can stop that Corofin barrage. Perhaps dropping Casey back into defence might help, but that would see them play without a midfield really and few scorers up front as it would surely means Shaw going to the middle. Will they start with Eoin Brosnan in midfield perhaps to add some experience? Doubt he would last for 70 minutes. Shaw is part of the Kerry squad.
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Post by Kingdomson on Feb 16, 2019 19:02:32 GMT
Crokes are tidy and skilful but they are also physically quite light weight in a lot of positions. I think Corofin are a far harder and stronger outfit as a senior team and I expect their backs to shut down the Crokes forwards who may have to live off scraps in the final. To be honest, I expect Corofin to win the final and won't be bit surprised if Corofin won it with a bit to spare.
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Post by veteran on Feb 16, 2019 19:04:56 GMT
I felt there was a huge gulf in class between the two sides even though there was just five points in it at the end. Eighteen scores to nine reflects the true story. The referee was evenhanded even though the penalty was very soft.
I do not know what Johnny Buckley did but he will be hugely missed in the final. His putative absence may well be the decisive factor in the final.
Crokes ooze class up front but the defence can be porous , their wingbacks being no great shakes.
I did not see the Corofin match but those boys have pedigree. Either way we can reasonably expect good football in that match.
P.S. Sincerely sorry to hear of the death of one of our members. May God look after him.
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Post by clarinman on Feb 16, 2019 20:25:27 GMT
Really looking forward to this final now. Will JB be suspended for it. Brave fight by the Longford men. That Leinster medal will be a prized item in that corner of Ireland. Would they be a senior club in Kerry. Very doubtful. Nice scores taken today on both sides. I didnt see any of the other game yet. I think you're being very hard on the Leinster champions Mick when saying they wouldn't be senior in Kerry. How many of the other 7 Kerry senior clubs are within 5 points of the Crokes. Let's flip it around. Could you see the likes of Kenmare, legion or a few others winning the Leinster club championship?
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Post by buck02 on Feb 16, 2019 21:23:27 GMT
Crokes can thank what I reckon are their two youngest players, David Shaw and Gavin White, for keeping their heads and driving the team on during the last 10 minutes of the first half.
White was outstanding. Some of the forward play was sublime. Fionn had a great second half.
3 of Crokes 4 wing men were below standard and would have to improve a lot for the final.
I thought the ref had a stinker. Also I was surprised at the Thurles surface.
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Post by buck02 on Feb 16, 2019 21:25:09 GMT
Moynihan has seemed to go into the Kerry team ahead of Burns, who was a regular last season. That competition for spots is good. I suppose both will be training with the Kerry panel. Murphy too will be in the panel, though I think Ryan is currently ahead. Ideally we have three keepers in the extended training Kerry panel to be prepared for anything. White is a must in the Kerry panel, on that we all agree. Brosnan and Shaw should be in the Kerry training panel as well in my opinion. If they see any game time depends on other players though I think Shaw has the makings of a great Kerry forward. Potts and Kiely (is he injured) are not starters for Crokes, but I do think they could add something to the extended panel. Would it be an idea to at least bring them into training after St. patrick's Day? With Buckley Crokes would be looking at a very tough task against Corofin, without him it will be so much tougher. I can't see Crokes winning the final unless they sort out the problems at the back, but I don't see how they can stop that Corofin barrage. Perhaps dropping Casey back into defence might help, but that would see them play without a midfield really and few scorers up front as it would surely means Shaw going to the middle. Will they start with Eoin Brosnan in midfield perhaps to add some experience? Doubt he would last for 70 minutes. Shaw is part of the Kerry squad. And so is Mike Potts.
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Post by homerj on Feb 16, 2019 22:01:23 GMT
i cant believe people are defending the ref on here, he was appalling. luckily for Crokes, it didnt cost them, they were probably 10-12 points the better team today if not much more.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Feb 18, 2019 0:23:40 GMT
Lovely point kicking from Dr. Crokes was the highlight for me. Thought the ref was a non-factor...he gave a few 50/50 decisions to both teams.
Could be two very good games on the 17th.
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Post by dc84 on Feb 18, 2019 7:40:19 GMT
Well done to the crokes on making the final, interesting peoples difering views on the ref thought the peno was harsh myself. Like others i think corofin will be too strong in the final. White is a class act and the forwards are so dangerous threat in every postion. Surely Keane will have to look at Tony Brosnan he would be a great option to bring on?
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 20, 2019 18:36:28 GMT
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Post by peanuts on Feb 28, 2019 21:11:05 GMT
Johnny Buckley successfully appealed his red card and is available for the final. Footage of the incident on Off the Ball Twitter feed. Correct decision if a little lucky. There is a definite striking action but minimal force.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 1, 2019 1:58:46 GMT
Johnny Buckley successfully appealed his red card and is available for the final. Footage of the incident on Off the Ball Twitter feed. Correct decision if a little lucky. There is a definite striking action but minimal force. Not sure how he got off but then again the ref was turned the other way!!
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 1, 2019 21:57:50 GMT
Refs should be slower to red card lads for incidents that they didnt see themselves. Conor Gleeson missed the 2017 hurling final over a minor little incident between himself and Patrick Horgan based on what a linesman said.
JB joins John Miskella, Dermot Connolly and a good few more who got reprieves to play in a final.
Maybe there should be no match suspensions. A red card should be penalised by raising the green flag for the opposition perhaps. That might cut out a lot of hassle.
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Mar 13, 2019 17:15:47 GMT
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